Gen-X Hate Revisited (Part 1 of 3)

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Cartoon Aesthetics

Cartoon Aesthetics

5 күн бұрын

Generational identity, analogue culture, comics alternatives, the rise of Peter Bagge & the birth of Hate.
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Clips from "2:30am at a 7-11 near Disney World - 1987":
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Clips from "90s Grunge Dreams 1 Summer 1994 Home Movies":
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Time Stamps:
00:00 Generational Presentience
03:34 Characteristics of Generation X
04:39 Early Gen-X Humor
06:21 Optimism vs. Ennui
07:31 Media Acceleration & the Analogue World
10:52 Emerging Alternatives in Comics
14:59 Seattle
16:52 Pee Bag
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@mr.selfimprovement3241
@mr.selfimprovement3241 2 күн бұрын
As a Early/Elder Millennial, I grew up in a rural area and did not have access to my own internet connection until I was in my early/mid-20s. I did not buy a smartphone until many years after that too. The height of technology for us were videogames systems (which were all analogue) and VHS tapes...and later DVDs when I was an adult. My family didn't even get cable/satellite until I was in collage in the early 2000s, so I grew up watching the 6 local channels I could get on the 13" Black & White TV in my room (rabbit-ears and all).... often less if the weather was bad or the station moved their signal around..... which was promptly upgraded to a similarly sized color set around 1998. I spent alot of time outside or connecting with friends in person when FOX KIDS, must-see TV, TGIF Friday and PBS Scientific America wasn't on. I listened to a lot of music (cassettes, and later CDs), and red magazines. That was normal where I lived, and tons of kids had the same upbringing. I think alot gets lost when we speak about Gen X being the last analogue generation, because people forget that technology and trends moved slower several decades back. Millions and Millions of Elder Millennials grew up hanging out with their Gen X siblings and growing up basically just a disconnected. I had much more in common with my siblings than I do alot of people a few years younger than me who grew up with AOL and internet in a upper-middle-class suburbs somewhere out west. I truly miss those years too, of my mom teaching me how to use a payphone, read a map, thumb thru the yellow pages, and ask directions when I got my license. Things were really different, and I can't relate to most millennials who where born after me who were part of that "digital" generation - as while my schools did have a few Apple II's and later a couple Windows 95 and 2000 machines in the computer lab (remember those)... those machines where almost always localized and exclusively for Math Blaster or Oregon Trail. Even broadband internet was something the school system struggled to get when I was a senior in High School, and they were the only place around with it. I still remember my first typing class being on a type-writer. It was just different. I wish more middle & younger millennials would realize that a good chunk of the people born in the early and mid 80s pre-date that 'millennial' trend of ICQ, AOL and cellphones in High School. Mark Zuckerberg is my age, and our upbringings (and exposure to technology) couldn't have been more different - just as I am sure many of you in your 50s can attest that Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs might have had a different exposure to technology growing up in silicon valley California than you guys did in the 70s and 80s. It's one of the reasons I do not like the Xennial term (its too vague), and think Millennials born before 1987 should be recognized as the first modern sub generation (which imo, would be ppl born between 1976 and 1986). I can tell you that having grown into adult hood in the analogue world, I still struggle most days with this imposter syndrome... where I almost feel like none of this is _real._ Like I am going to wake up and people will be dating at bars and clubs, and I won't need a internet connection to pay my bills or watch a show. Every time I go to a restaurant or hospital and they have a QR code or ask me to download a APP, it STILL feels absolutely bizarre and alien.. even after all these years. And in recent years I have found myself back on the dating market, and having last dated in 2005.... the hardest thing for me to accept is the other person looking at their phone thru 80% of the date, and being socially awkward. I just don't get it - my instinct is to get mad and demand they respect me enough to at-least look at me... but then I quickly realized EVERYONE is like that now. Things are just different, and when I speak about this I find its often people around my own age who relate.
@MaggieKeizai
@MaggieKeizai 2 күн бұрын
Gen X here. You make a lot of really good observations. There's one thing you get really wrong, though, about our ironic love of "insincere" retro aesthetics, and you cite the 50s. Well, no. You're a decade off. What you speak of is a SINCERE love of aspects of 60s aesthetics, and it's rooted in familiarity and comfort. These things were (still) around when we were little and felt protected, and didn't die out completely until the early 80s. Stuff like hearing "Mr. Lucky" in a grocery store, or variety shows being on TV. We know that a lot of that stuff is tacky, we just don't care because it feels good. I get the sense that you think that when they packaged us up to sell back to ourselves, we actually bought it. Sure, a few did. Most of us did for a minute, but by and large our generational moment of self-awareness and definition didn't last long. I mean, it's not like it was something we could unsee, but we lost interest in it pretty quick, having spent our lives being bored to death by our parents boasting about how cool their generation was and realizing what a waste of time and energy it was to emulate their generational ego tripping. We really only stick our heads up and speak to it when some younger person takes a shot at us as a generation for something we didn't even do, then we'll collectively tell 'em where to stick it and go back to listening to Glenn Campbell on AM radio.
@viperion_nz
@viperion_nz 2 күн бұрын
ALL OF THIS (fellow Gen-Xer here, from proabably nearly the other side of the world)
@dubuyajay9964
@dubuyajay9964 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, the 80's was that. 90's was a decade of cynicism because we saw how hypocritical it was having our "Boomer" parents order us around after their own Counter-Culture youth tore down the hard work their parents made during the 30s and 40s.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing this
@happyjacksavinka5560
@happyjacksavinka5560 2 күн бұрын
@@MaggieKeizai the 50's ascetic in the 90's has always interested me. I was at the tail end of gen-x and I remember a lot of the kids a couple grades ahead of me being really into turner classic movies and crime noir.
@Wayzor_
@Wayzor_ 2 күн бұрын
We didn't give a fk about the 50's. lol
@OllamhDrab
@OllamhDrab 2 күн бұрын
I think one thing a lot of analysis doesn't seem to get is how very many of us *did* know what we had, and probably gradually grew more angry, dissiilusioned, and/or cynical as more and more was *taken away* sometimes right to our faces, and as we realized that with the economic, err, changes of the Reagan/Bush era, there was suddenly college debt or inabiity to even *get* loans for college, which was still seemingly pretty mandatory to even work in the proverbial mail room so many places, while meanwhile older generations were living longer and healthier and way outnumbering us, so there wasn't a lot of room to get *in,* cause people weren't moving up or retriring. That also meant a lot of the companies and certainly political parties just weren't as progressive as we'd have wanted, and you had to be squeaky clean and boring just to get in a lot of places, and who wanted to do *that* besides the Young Republicans. Consequently a lot of us *did* work more social and cultural angles, and if we were lucky, could get by at them. And even there , there was a real difference in prospects and having been able to get started depending on where you were and if you were born, say, before or after 1970, give or take.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for adding additional context. Obviously, not being an actual X-er, my analysis is incomplete.
@miahconnell23
@miahconnell23 2 күн бұрын
@@cartoonaesthetics I 100% appreciate your thoughtful social analysis of those times. You’re doing high-quality, sensitive, ethnography here. What you’ve posted doesn’t make me feel like a “study subject.” Instead, I feel like you’ve put yourself in my shoes.
@secretgoldfish
@secretgoldfish 2 күн бұрын
Gen X culture was also unique for the fact that it rejected so much itself that it was ultimately rejected by the establishment as simply too hard to sell to (after they tried to gaslight us as 'slackers' which we ironically owned/embraced instead) ....where the bigger manipulators then just moved onto the next (and more easily-led/manipulated) generation. Gen X ultimately became the passed-over generation. The cynicism, irony and absurdity of the time wasn't as nihilistic as you think, where the nihilism was critiqued and made fun of as well. The generations since either haven't property understood or contextualised the irony, sarcasm and absurdity or have instead (and unfortunately) devolved it into dumb supposed 'sass' and sadly embraced nihilism AS their sad life-meaning, like self-identified victimhood......and then useful-idiocy FOR their manipulators/the establishment.
@seanwieland9763
@seanwieland9763 2 күн бұрын
I blame David Foster Wallace for his attack on irony and creating New Sincerity - which the 2010s Great Awokening embraced as an echo of yuppie Boomers neurotic about their “personal brand” and curated social media accounts, which is the total opposite of Gen X authenticity.
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
Exactly ! But many of Gen X sadly don't understand that either. But those were most likely the Normies.
@BCThunderthud
@BCThunderthud 2 күн бұрын
I'm what I consider core Gen X, a year younger than Kurt Cobain and the youngest of the Beastie Boys. I read comics and Mad Magazine as a kid, in high school I stopped and only read underground comics, R. Crumb, American Splendor, Paul Mavrides' Anarchy Comics, etc. In college I got back into them with the rise of adult comics like Swamp Thing but after the first year of Sandman I was the stereotypical only Hate and Eightball reader (who also thought Neat Stuff had been better). I think the 90s was a little different for those of us who had been hip in the 80s, if you can forgive that. We had hardcore punk, zines, mail art, Subgenius, Discordianism, science fiction and horror fandoms, graffiti, skateboarding, just numerous cultures that had nothing to do with the mainstream. The whole alternative thing felt bad in a way that it probably shouldn't have, proprietary hipster anger at "selling out" I guess.
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
It was called that before grunge.
@HiDefHDMusic
@HiDefHDMusic 2 күн бұрын
Maybe you just realized that you weren’t actually alternative or counterculture at all and had just bought into a different kind of justification for all of the worst aspects of American “culture”
@Henskelion
@Henskelion 3 күн бұрын
I do like the amount of footage you use here, instead of just being voice over a single image or something. Having some obscure stuff like clips from some of the Mind's Eye CG shorts is a nice touch too.
@twaintonid7036
@twaintonid7036 2 күн бұрын
This dude was just like a cross between Squidward and Hakim from the deprogrammed can’t pay attention to anything he is saying.
@TheCaptain610
@TheCaptain610 3 күн бұрын
Wow. A cartoon analysis channel with cultural references beyond just, well, cartoons. Glad I found you and subbed.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 3 күн бұрын
That's the Fairsley Difference
@mr.selfimprovement3241
@mr.selfimprovement3241 2 күн бұрын
Probably had to ask alot of permissions for these. lol. _SO_ many clips from familiar channels I like.
@ninjasolbadguy
@ninjasolbadguy 2 күн бұрын
I did the same, but now we have to wait for Part 2!
@williampalmer8052
@williampalmer8052 2 күн бұрын
I wish a lot of the commentors here would actually listen to what you're saying. All these "I'm Gen X, and we..." comments miss the point. I was born in '66 and I can tell you that nobody at the time wanted to be branded with a pre-packaged label that presumed to homogenize us all. No one then would have called themselves by that stupid name. We rejected that kind of monolithic identity. A generational name implies a list of characteristics to which all members must conform, and there was no way anyone would accept being told who they were. Then Grunge was invented by some marketer, signaling the first successful attempt to monetize and control the idea of non-conformity since Woodstock, even creating a new Woodstock for this new group of consumers. Suddenly, they could be sold the "right" clothes, and the right haircuts, and the kids all happily lined up to be branded with a big stupid X. But before then, we might have done away with those artificial social divisions, which are the cause of so much harmful tribalism today, and held to the idea that your character is not defined by the year you were born, and that basing your identity on your "generation" is a tool used by others to control and manage you.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, well said. "Generation X" was a marketing term that got foisted on people, and had an unfortunate homogenizing effect on lots of really cool organic culture which had already been taking form.
@spidersdiecast
@spidersdiecast 2 күн бұрын
Now you sir, are a man with some sense.
@HiDefHDMusic
@HiDefHDMusic 2 күн бұрын
I believe it man, trust me I would not have picked the label “millennial” (I had a hard time pronouncing it 😂 and I never ate avocado out of anything but a tortilla either)
@TopDrawer_Art
@TopDrawer_Art 3 күн бұрын
I dig the Kayfabe style thumbnails, RIP Ed.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
I'm not trying to rip them off or anything, but Cooper is just such a good font. Cartoony, but legible.
@mr.selfimprovement3241
@mr.selfimprovement3241 2 күн бұрын
RIP Ed. You were murdered by terrible people, and you only made life more enjoyable for fans of comics like myself.
@JH-pe3ro
@JH-pe3ro 2 күн бұрын
Early millennial. I see that early-90's period as a kind of turbocharged 80's, where a lot of the aesthetic trends reached their "final form" (and in subsequent decades, were concentrated into the synthwave aesthetic) - the movies became more intentionally over-the-top, "alternative" came into prominence on radio along with some breakthrough hip-hop and dance records, but the shock humor and hype for digital graphics on everything hadn't quite come into play - the comics I was reading as a kid were still being made without any digital production. Nationally, crime rates peaked in 1991 and started their long downtrend, if I remember correctly, which also marked the decline of stories built around street gangs and urban decay. There was a wave of pop environmentalism - Captain Planet and similar kinds of pollution-fighting characters and school posters that proclaimed "Reduce, reuse, recycle; there's never enough water to waste" and other PSA slogans. There were still after-school specials in those years, although cable TV was definitely sucking the air out of the room by then. Pro wrestling was still aiming to be "wholesome Real American" rather than "Attitude". All of that stuff shifted in a big way around 1994 and it was utterly jarring to me, at 8 years old. A decent chunk of Gen X were Reagan-Bush entrepreneurs - a lot of the people who ended up being tech industry billionaires found their footing around this period or a little bit later as the dot-com boom took shape. Tim Sweeney stands out to me as a guy who, now that he's at the top, yearns romantically for a libertarian America that provides the exact kinds of opportunities that he got in the early 90's, so he's deployed his money accordingly, without much attention to how the actual conditions have changed.
@user-zx5gg8od6l
@user-zx5gg8od6l 2 күн бұрын
a zoomer can not have a single original thought without it being packaged like this
@HereticHydra
@HereticHydra 2 күн бұрын
@@user-zx5gg8od6l I'm also from the early 1980s & what he said is accurate. 1990-1995 really was just a cultural extension of the late 1980s. He brought up wrestling which noticeably became darker around 1998 to appeal to the Gen X crowd. Culture didn't finally transition towards a more Gen X outlook until 1997/1998 - 2012. 2002 - 2012 were what I'd consider the early 80s Gen Y culture which was still shaped by Gen X irreverent & edgy aesthetics. Sam Hyde is basically early 1980s Millennials personified. Edgy as all hell.
@Chef_Alpo
@Chef_Alpo 2 күн бұрын
​@HereticHydra '85 here, I made the exact same reference to Sam Hyde. WOAh! Hey, while I'm here, did you experience the phenomenon of incessant armpit farting in the earliest part of the 90s? I remember one kid was a king of that maneuver, only he'd take it to the next level and fall flat on his back and while rocking back n forth would blast off multiples using both his leg pits. Quite amusing witnessing that happening randomly mid-conversation.
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
@@HereticHydra To a Millenial. A Generation X person will not see Sam Hyde as anything edgy.
@Bamatime719
@Bamatime719 2 күн бұрын
GenXer here. You're immensely spot on. A lot of GenXers forgot their roots. It all fell apart when those two towers fell.
@HiDefHDMusic
@HiDefHDMusic 2 күн бұрын
My parents are apparently technically Gen x but they’re basically boomers like all their older siblings, and my dad basically never shut Fox News off in the living room once it happened.
@bobenshibobsled
@bobenshibobsled 3 күн бұрын
the youtube algorithm has blessed the fuck out of us with this one. ive been thinking about these ideas a lot recently because every decade, the decade from 30 years ago gets glorified. the 80s loved the 50s, the 90s loved the 60s, the 2000s loved the 70s, the 2010s loved the 80s. it was obvious that up next was the 90s. you hit the zeitgeist and im glad i clicked on this. this is amazing dude. youve got a great voice, writing style, and quality. keep it up.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 3 күн бұрын
Thank you very much I'm glad you enjoyed it
@colonialstraits1069
@colonialstraits1069 2 күн бұрын
It’s closer to 20 years. 70s was the 50s, 80s was the 60s, etc..
@seanwieland9763
@seanwieland9763 2 күн бұрын
The 2000s Electroclash / Bloghouse was in love with the 1980s. The 2010s Great Awokening was more like a turbocharged version of “political correctness” from the 1990s.
@i-never-look-at-replies-lol
@i-never-look-at-replies-lol 2 күн бұрын
it's almost halfway through the 2020s and we're just rehashing the 90s/00s from 2 decades ago...so what happens 2 decades from now when we go back to the 2020s and there's nothing there because everyone was trying to relive the 90s/00s? we've reached the point of media culture folding in on itself, particularly in a "post-modern" world i.e. everything has been said & done already...yet there's people still trying to reinvent the wheels that keep that media culture going.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
@@i-never-look-at-replies-lol "We're through the looking glass here people" - the gen x classic film JFK (1991)
@CatBountry
@CatBountry 3 күн бұрын
Early millennial here. I feel like I share a lot in common with Gen Xers since I got to experience a lot of the culture of their teenage and young adult years as a child. I feel sort of blessed that I got to experience a more analog childhood. I remember hearing the term "Generation Y" when I first attended college, but "millennial" would eventually become the preferred term as I entered my 20's. I look forward to the next part of this, hopefully you can talk about internet culture in the early days of its mass adoption. Webcomics, blogs, forums, instant messaging were all things I experienced as I was leaving my childhood and discovering who I was as a person and developing my tastes. For Gen Xers, they were young adults. They were real pioneers of internet culture and I think since dawn of web 2.0, old forum culture is more discussed by people my age rather than them, the people who were there before us who set all these things up.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Well, the next couple parts are really going to be about Hate mostly - talking about Gen X was just necessary preamble, but I had some other stuff on my mind about that I wanted to share, too.
@CatBountry
@CatBountry 2 күн бұрын
@@cartoonaesthetics Completely fair and understandable, looking forward to it.
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
@@cartoonaesthetics I bet you get a lot of things wrong 😁
@HiDefHDMusic
@HiDefHDMusic 2 күн бұрын
@@nacflghs-n7wwhat a weird thing to say
@laikapupkino1767
@laikapupkino1767 2 күн бұрын
I'm an old Boomer who clicked onto this because I noticed Bagg's distinctive art style in the thumbnail (who I recognized from WEIRDO) and I wasn't disappointed by your dissection of 90s culture. As a child I'd bought a few Spiderman + Fantastic 4 comic books, but I hated the format. They were half pages of weird advertisements ("Hey kids, sell GRIT! America's family-est newspaper!"), and just when the story got going- CONTINUED NEXT ISSUE. I went back to my science fiction paperbacks. The graphic novel format finally gave me whole stories in one book, which was good because I became a DC fan in my 40's, not so much because of any Tim Burton flick, but BATMAN THE ANIMATED SERIES, I loved the writing, the relative sophistication for a kid's series, and my all time favorite Joker (Luke WHO??) and by the time of the first X MEN movie I was hooked on the superhero genre I'd sneered at as a pretentious Pynchon, Zola and Ferdinand Celine reading teen. Really looking forward to Part 2...
@MrMegaman0607
@MrMegaman0607 3 күн бұрын
This is the kind of art/comics/cartooning/ and surrounding cultural discussion/analysis that would make our boys like Eddie P. proud, killer video bro, you’re actually already a pro at this lol
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 3 күн бұрын
Thank you, Comics Kayfabe is a big influence for me just in terms of their enthusiasm. Eddie Pissgore, RIP, does get a shoutout in the next part of this series.
@MrMegaman0607
@MrMegaman0607 3 күн бұрын
After what the vultures pushed Ed into doing I thought Ya Boi Zack would be the only good channel anywhere near this scene but you’re really stepping up to the plate 👍
@mr.selfimprovement3241
@mr.selfimprovement3241 2 күн бұрын
@@cartoonaesthetics Ed will be missed. His art and love of the gratuitous aspects of 70s and 80s horror will be sorely missed too, as he leaves a giant black hole in the scene with his demise. I know this sounds terrible, but: would the people who drove him to what he did, should find a similar fate, I would finally believe karma is real. Justice is rarely served in life, but if any deserved it - it would be those who robbed the world of such compassion, love and talent.
@valenciaa.vaquero3104
@valenciaa.vaquero3104 3 күн бұрын
A step up from the last video. this is a real interesting topic I know nothing about, so I'm learning a lot here. Can't wait for what's next in the series!
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 3 күн бұрын
A step up from talking on a cheap mic over a single screenshot? Yeah I would hope so!
@CaptainLardNar
@CaptainLardNar 3 күн бұрын
I can’t imagine the amount of work you put into collecting all that footage. Excellent video! As a cartoonist myself I enjoy seeing every element that influences a creator and I can’t wait to see the rest!
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
I don't mean to imply that any of the early Gen-X stuff in this vid influenced Bagge per se - his formative years were in the 70s & 80s. By the time the late-80s-unto-90s were happening, he was coming into his own.
@sunfishensunfishen2271
@sunfishensunfishen2271 2 күн бұрын
Man, I can’t wait to have a culture
@finster1194
@finster1194 2 күн бұрын
I absolutely loved growing up gen x even though I didn't know what it was at the time. I think it's a quiet generation that is just fine with being generally overlooked. There are so many times where I hear a discussion on generations and it jumps straight from boomers to millennials and I'm glad to be a part of neither of those narcissistic groups
@oldradios09
@oldradios09 2 күн бұрын
Gen X is lucky. I dislike being a later millennial because of the narcissism label. Yeah being born in the early 90s pretty much spoiled me to lots of stuff people before me didn’t have at a pretty young age so that narcissism kinda comes in. You’re lucky to be left alone and overlooked. Now everyone is moving on to dogging on Gen Z.
@HereticHydra
@HereticHydra 2 күн бұрын
@@oldradios09 The narcissism label is accurate though. Even Gen Z noticed that about Gen Y since it's often Gen Y cancelling Gen Z's on the internet. I'm an early millennial from the early 80s. My gen is always grouped up with Gen X. While early 80s Gen Y do have plenty of overlap with Gen X, I think we're just a lost gen with no core identity between X & Y. Ryan Gosling is from 1980 but he's quintessential Gen Y. He's a bland corporate product that many 1990s millennials relate with due to his social isolation roles in Drive & Blade Runner 2049. Notice how he doesn't get the girl in those roles. He basically sacrifices himself to give himself purpose. That's what I noticed about late 1980s & 1990s Millennials, a nihilistic hopelessness where they view themselves as doomed. I'm from 1983 so I have a far more optimistic outlook similar to that of Karate kid. or Return of the Jedi. It's a naïve outlook though, in real life you really can't reform the Darth Vaders of the world lol.
@oldradios09
@oldradios09 2 күн бұрын
@@HereticHydra I also wonder if getting the internet in our single digits as apposed to being a teenager or older fueled our Narcissistic attitude too?
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
@@oldradios09 100%, imo
@HiDefHDMusic
@HiDefHDMusic 2 күн бұрын
@@oldradios09the internet is narcissistic, and was almost entirely populated by millennials from the beginning of it’s popularity, they’re just the first generation that was given a mechanism with which to push their narcissism into everyone’s face This also corresponds with the collection and sale of everyone’s information to advertisers in order to kill actual businesses, so there’s a argument to be made that the narcissism was always the point of social media, because they wouldn’t make any money otherwise.
@voxrepeatpercussion
@voxrepeatpercussion 3 күн бұрын
i loved the buddy series growing up... much love to my local library for having these in stock when i was young
@jgramworld
@jgramworld 2 күн бұрын
Fantastic video. I recognise some of the Fantagraphics clips from an old Channel 4 TV show called Made In The USA hosted by Laurie Pike. Have never been able to find the show online. Excellent work digging up the footage. Can't wait for parts 2 and 3.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
That whole segment is on KZfaq, it's where I found it
@vinoperson1239
@vinoperson1239 2 күн бұрын
Been following your twitter account for years now and you've always put out tons of fantastic anecdotes, great to see you make a larger scale video like this with a bigger connecting throughline, I'm looking forward to the next two parts!
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Thanks. Fact of the matter is, if you want to pontificate, more people will watch & listen to a yt vid than will read a long twitter thread
@GangstalkingAdvocate
@GangstalkingAdvocate 2 күн бұрын
Great video, I'm eagerly awaiting the next part!
@Johnosaka
@Johnosaka 2 күн бұрын
That was the fastest sub I've made. Excellent video essay. Can't wait to see what you put out next.
@blackmatterlives9865
@blackmatterlives9865 2 күн бұрын
Im a Xer. One thing im tired of hearing from my generation TODAY, is how many of them act like we grew up in the Great Depression. "We had to play outside" "We had to change our own bike tires" "We had to use encyclopedias, there was no Google" "We had to drink from the water hose" "Yada yada yada. Me and my first world problems" Please stop. Its not edgy. Its embarrassing.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Some of it is humblebragging for sure. "I used to walk five miles in the snow to get to school..."
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
It was fun
@darrenlawrence587
@darrenlawrence587 3 күн бұрын
I lived through it and you did a great job at summing up the era. Hate was THE Gen-X comic and I got every issue (from GOSH or Forbidden Planet in London) when released. Hate and Eightball were epic.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 3 күн бұрын
Glad to hear you say that because as an old millennial it's somewhat conjecture for me to talk about gen x, I'm glad I was somewhat accurate.
@powerfulguy7870
@powerfulguy7870 3 күн бұрын
this was actually pretty cool, can't wait to see the next parts
@DrNekobeard
@DrNekobeard 3 күн бұрын
Great first part, look forward to future parts
@ramirocaorlin4613
@ramirocaorlin4613 3 күн бұрын
Just discovered your channel. Great video and looking for more! (it's me Ramiro)
@SpinyPuffs
@SpinyPuffs 3 күн бұрын
Hey, long time Twitter follower here, so cool to see you making videos. I'll have to check out HATE and Neat Stuff sometime this century.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 3 күн бұрын
You've got a lot to look forward to - if you want to stick to the Hate-verse, the "Bradleys" stories from Neat Stuff have been collected separately & you could start there. But Neat Stuff is still really good overall
@CB-yb1jl
@CB-yb1jl 2 күн бұрын
Totally dig this video. It said more about the culture beyond books and cartoons. Didn’t really know what to expect from this video but I couldn’t stop watching. It was sprinkled with clips that I fondly remember growing up in the late 80’s and early 90’s. Very good stuff can’t wait for the next chapter. Instantly subscribed
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Glad you were into it, thanks for the sub
@MissKellyBean
@MissKellyBean 2 күн бұрын
I'm such a Marvel fan (ahem, let me rephrase that, I WAS such a Marvel fan in the early 1990s) that I often forget just how many GREAT comics that Vertigo was putting out. They were SO good, in fact, that I often forget (or more likely, block in my mind) that Vertigo was a branch of DC. It doesn't seem possible, honestly, but it's true. That was DC comics. What a trip. 😮
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
In a way Marvel tried to do their own version of Vertigo years later with "Marvel Max" but they could have helped the industry a lot if they'd just done that sooner.
@MissKellyBean
@MissKellyBean 2 күн бұрын
Can't wait for the rest of this!
@Sentom23
@Sentom23 2 күн бұрын
This feels like a Madseasonshow video
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
I'm not familiar with him but watching a few seconds of one of his videos, yeah, I see the resemblance lol
@NessyBoy64
@NessyBoy64 5 күн бұрын
looking forward to it
@dr.strangelove5708
@dr.strangelove5708 2 күн бұрын
Ahh Generation X was a punk band the only thing that author did was use their name and labeled to whole generation with it.
@Funni-guy99
@Funni-guy99 2 күн бұрын
As an early member of Gen z I look at all this with a sense of awe and jealousy seeing a close knit culture and at the line of the changing eras, Anyhow great job with the video, I’ve been following you on Twitter for a while and this video reminds me of your old threads, keep up the good work.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@LevPolyakov
@LevPolyakov 3 күн бұрын
Loving it so far & looking forward to seeing where this goes.
@stevesmith7839
@stevesmith7839 2 күн бұрын
Baby Boomers are mostly not the parents of Xers. The parents of Xers are mostly the generation between Boomers and the greatest generation, sometimes called the forgotten generation. Remember, the Boomers were the first generation to start waiting till later to have kids. I place the forgotten generation to be born from 1926 to 1942, Boomers from 1942 to 1952, Xers from 1962 to 1972. The forgotten generation were too young to participate in WW2 and too old to Disco or participate in the Vietnam war. They participated in the Korean War and are co responsible with the greatest generation in the Moral Majority and the election of Reagan. As far as entertainment culture goes, remember, the entertainment culture for Xers came from people who were Boomers. It may have been FOR Xers, but it wasn't BY Xers. Ozzy is a Boomer. John Hughes was a boomer. Van Halen was a boomer. Roger Waters is a Boomer.
@TheBestShowEvr
@TheBestShowEvr 2 күн бұрын
This is correct. My uncles (Dad's much younger brothers) were boomers. They were so full of themselves.
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
Generation X goes up to 1980 1981. Many Generation X people have Boomer parents.
@frugaljoker8277
@frugaljoker8277 3 күн бұрын
Wonderful video!!! The nuances of a decades culture tends to get lost and flanderized the more time passes and the more people who weren't there come of age. Fascinating stuff. (zoomer review)
@secretgoldfish
@secretgoldfish 2 күн бұрын
Nirvana (and Gen X) wasn't as self-loathing and as nihilistic as you think .....listen to the lyrics (and just feel the sound!) they're also really funny, sarcastic and genuinely self-depreciating.......which unfortunately gets lost when exploring it later, especially after Kurt shotgunned himself (which is what heroin, Courtney Love and the rest sadly resulted in).....then you have films like Singles and Reality Bites which were just lame and as bad an 'approximation' back then as they are today. Genuine self-depreciation (and sarcasm/irony) has unfortunately been far harder for the narcissistically over-'encouraged' generations since to properly contextualise or properly appreciate .....outside of using it as a tool to shamelessly look for algorithmic (and overly-conformist encouraged) 'likes'/'upvotes' (and supposed but REALLY lame 'sass') unfortunately. Gen X parents likely made a mistake putting their kids in front of something like The Simpsons and just assuming that they too would 'get it'......where the kids nowadays are unfortunately far more likely to just see the social-criticism in it as simply 'mean' (or just ignore/not-understand it) after growing up in far more conformity-encouraged/manipulated times where ANY 'criticism' (even 'critical' thinking) is now sadly seen as 'mean' (....and like racism [sigh]).....where they're ironically and sadly more likely to gravitate towards the lame/easy, cheap (and dehumanised) nastiness of something like Family Guy instead.....or all the other narcissistic and nihilistic supposed 'sass' now over-offered to them.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
That's a good point about Xer parents, whom I'm not particularly enamored of
@jennydeath5182
@jennydeath5182 3 күн бұрын
Absolutely impeccable video, keep up the excellent work!
@MichaelJenkins910
@MichaelJenkins910 2 күн бұрын
This led me to a truly introspective nostalgia trip. Thank you.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
np
@imacg5
@imacg5 2 күн бұрын
definition kills the vitality. what a great observation!
@adrianmartinez-lq5he
@adrianmartinez-lq5he 2 күн бұрын
We are in 2024 There is not cultural shift between 2015 and now It looks like there isnt gona ve huge changes till we face somekind of economical crysis
@gatecreeper800
@gatecreeper800 2 күн бұрын
Please please make more videos! The amount of knowledge, the library of footage, your editing style and a voice over that's actually NOT annoying makes for such a great watch.
@seanwieland9763
@seanwieland9763 2 күн бұрын
As a late Gen Xer, this is an outstanding summation of the 1990s. Looking forward to the other parts!
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 2 күн бұрын
The 80s were not just blah Geo. H.W. Bush conservatism. There was also punk, a lot of crazy music including a lot of really neat synth work, The Talking Heads and other bands, micro computers going from toys to tools, hacking, all kinds of neat stuff.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
@@alexcarter8807 love talking heads
@xlnyc77
@xlnyc77 2 күн бұрын
This was awesome, defiantly caught the vibes without hitting the same old same ole tentpoles.
@jerryrussell278
@jerryrussell278 2 күн бұрын
Grunge happened because we were the first generation to realize we wouldn't be nearly as well off as our parents, and we had the balls to express our disdain through music. We were the latch key kids who were left largely to our own devices because the 80s media was busy selling out the nuclear family to rampant consumerism. They told our parents that greed was good. Because Ronald Fuckin' Reagan said so. It was a dark and depressing, but also a great time to be a teen-ager. Fuckin' STOKED for part 2 & 3. Nice work bro, it's gonna be a treat to watch this channel grow!
@coinopanimator
@coinopanimator 2 күн бұрын
I "grew up" in New Zealand in the 90s and it was glorious and we were super optimistic. Even the UK in the latter quarter was great fun.
@coinopanimator
@coinopanimator 2 күн бұрын
The homophobia and racism was rife though.
@MezJ113
@MezJ113 2 күн бұрын
This is great. I really enjoyed your work
@HandyMan657
@HandyMan657 2 күн бұрын
Interesting video and, an interesting topic. I bartended through the late 80s and then all of the 90s, didn't really pay attention to much of what's being discussed here, but I did witness a lot of it. Ya know, Gen Ten is sadly the generation that seems hell bent on introducing a dictator to the nation. I don't where so many of us went wrong, but damn, they lost their way big time.
@theghostoftupac2662
@theghostoftupac2662 2 күн бұрын
Good stuff man I too was a small child at the height of this era. Hope you blow up and make more interesting stuff.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Thanks man
@NessyBoy64
@NessyBoy64 3 күн бұрын
Good stuff mate
@altohippiegabber
@altohippiegabber 2 күн бұрын
Back in those days I loved going to comicshops and buying issues of HATE and Freak Brothers (I still have the complete sets of both) and comics from (in)famous Dutch subversive cartoonists as the late Eric Schreurs and my favorite Hein de Kort who both had their work published by 80s/early 90s irreverent Amsterdam publisher C.I.C.
@QuroWebArchive
@QuroWebArchive 3 күн бұрын
Man... this fucking rocks I really enjoyed this.
@GeminiChild27
@GeminiChild27 3 күн бұрын
Your right, we didn't know wha we had. We do now.
@raultrashlord4404
@raultrashlord4404 2 күн бұрын
Plate of shrimp.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Key X Text
@ideologybot4592
@ideologybot4592 2 күн бұрын
You've got some work to do selling Gen X as optimistic. It was a good time, because there seemed to be some barriers that were coming down that went way beyond Berlin, and the petty repressions of the 80's were obviously becoming unsustainable. But that doesn't mean younger people were happy. There was still a lot of loathing for the religious and the corporate, a dread of adult responsibility, skepticism regarding other people's intentions, and a need for escape through whatever substance you could get your hands on. If any attitude dominated, it was the sense that we needed to have as much fun as possible before the window closed on us. Still, good video, I'll be watching for the next one.
@mahatmarandy5977
@mahatmarandy5977 2 күн бұрын
Being solidly a member of generation X myself, i’m off a lot of who and what we were in the 1980s was marked by a deliberate rejection of boomer stuff. We did not like all that hippie shit, we did not like disco, we did not like self important music, and truth be told most of our boomer parents were self absorbed and not great parents. I mean, there are obviously were an awful lot that were, but something like third of us grew up in broken homes, and without a lot of the social conventions that would have helped compensate for that. So punk was an expression of that, but mostly it was new wave. Music that really was not very challenging, but which boomers just absolutely hated. But there is also sense of incredible optimism because of computers becoming increasingly available and a ton of good movies and jobs were pretty easy to find. I mean, you could put yourself through college with a good full-time job at a grocery store. So on the one hand, there was a deliberate reaction of what had come before, and on the other hand, there was a great deal of excitement about what was to come. And “poser” is already being used as an insult. And then in the early 1990s, the sense of optimism just kind of disappeared. I’m not sure why. I think some of that was almost all of us were out on our own now and well the stuff we had rejected was pretty clear, the stuff that we chose to accept was not. Which left us with the fear that comes from a wide-open future realization that your parents are not gonna be paying your bills anymore. You have this period from about 1978 to about 1983 where record labels had no idea what would sell and so they just shoved everything out there, and then from 1983 to about 1987 was very commercial, but then in the last part of the 80s Literally anything goes musically. You weirdo acts like they might be Giants and more serious metal acts like guns and roses. And you had indie comics everywhere and it was a really very exciting time. Then once grunge hit around 1992 it all began to feel like it was being rained in. That experimentation had given away to a new formula. Personally, as a new wave kid, I always rejected grunge. It wasn’t that the music was bad, it just felt commercial to me. Like a safe well scrubbed version of punk being used as a marketing tool for corduroy pants and flannel shirts. Bleah. I mean I was sick of the music. I grew up on, but I didn’t have a lot of love for the new music, and it is hard to rebel when rebellion is being mass marketed. I am rambling. Never mind. Forget it to take up your time.
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
This ' we ' doesn't work. There was a wide variety of Gen X. And New Wave came up with Boomers Hello???????. Grunge was also around before it was mass marketed and the Normies got hold of it.
@stylinghead
@stylinghead 2 күн бұрын
When I found a Raw mag in a tobacco shop my week was made! X has always been dada. Same sort of horror pressure and release.
@user-vf9ep6tf5w
@user-vf9ep6tf5w 2 күн бұрын
Raw was the best shit!!!
@sebp9882
@sebp9882 2 күн бұрын
actually nice video essay
@CC-yj3dl
@CC-yj3dl 2 күн бұрын
Your notion of the 90s is almost exactly like mine about the 60s. And that's a lot like how my dad thinks about the 1940s. What's that about?
@Dryheat5
@Dryheat5 2 күн бұрын
Go to bed John
@briansinger5258
@briansinger5258 2 күн бұрын
"Obey your thirst" -Sprite
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
I considered using one of those Sprite ads for this. "Image is nothing"
@kintoba
@kintoba 2 күн бұрын
Newgrounds and AlbinoBlackSheep are great places to find early era absurdism and edgyness. Animutation died out early on but it was peak absurdism.
@delta-9969
@delta-9969 2 күн бұрын
lol what is this at 5:13? anybody know what this clip is from?
@user-vf9ep6tf5w
@user-vf9ep6tf5w 2 күн бұрын
SNL Toonces the Driving Cats Revenge.
@thisisyourAutisn
@thisisyourAutisn 2 күн бұрын
Really great video 🥲👍🏻
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
@@thisisyourAutisn glad you liked it!
@happyjacksavinka5560
@happyjacksavinka5560 2 күн бұрын
Took a quick peek and this looks great- can't wait to catch the rest and the other parts as well
@malakiblunt
@malakiblunt 2 күн бұрын
what you say @2.24 is profound -it applies not only too cultures but also indevidual artists. - it will apply to your channel- at the moment you can make vids about what ever you like - but when you get more followers and start making money - youl find it comes at a price of freedom /creativity
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Time will tell
@FrankKelleher
@FrankKelleher 2 күн бұрын
Gen Xer here. Don't forget Heavy Metal mag.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
That might have been a good example to include, you're right. But the focus of this video was mainly on American comics. European comics haven't struggled for popular artistic legitimacy the way American comics have. And the British had 2000 AD, there was never really an equivalent to that in America either.
@thatguyoverthere1410
@thatguyoverthere1410 2 күн бұрын
Mmmm. Mmmm. Yes very good. Please continue to make these videos.
@notsure1135
@notsure1135 2 күн бұрын
Any mention of Jim Goad
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Uh, no. But he's kind of a whole topic unto himself, and not just because he's comics-adjacent
@happyjacksavinka5560
@happyjacksavinka5560 2 күн бұрын
When explaining what those days were like I like to contrast the bobcat golthwae "in utero" ad against the "fire water burn" music video by the bloodhound gang. In the early days it was like everyone had no money and by the end of the decade EVERYONE had money. I asked my Pops about this and he had a way of putting things: "Carter ruined it, Regan fixed it, but it didn't get to us until the middle 90's."
@chiefbanana1093
@chiefbanana1093 2 күн бұрын
Idk Reagan and his administration ruined everything it touched followed by the bushes and Clinton.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
I'd never seen that ad before, fascinating intersection of Gen-X subcultures
@happyjacksavinka5560
@happyjacksavinka5560 2 күн бұрын
@@cartoonaesthetics hope you got a kick out of that. I think the bobcat ad really is a great snapshot of early 90's culture. I mean, those guys look kinda rough and they very much lack the polish of the later corporate alt ascetic.
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 2 күн бұрын
Well shit, I thought this was going to be all about P. Bagge comics.
@sebp9882
@sebp9882 2 күн бұрын
Could I suggest a topic: Megg Mogg and Owl? I like this comic.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Possibly! It's an interesting series
@tracheotome
@tracheotome 2 күн бұрын
Half of the people you’re showing are either Gen Jones or straight up Boomers. It’s also more likely that a Gen Xer was raised by someone from the silent generation.
@matthews7805
@matthews7805 2 күн бұрын
You just got a follow from a fellow Gen-Xer, brother!
@Wesleym134
@Wesleym134 2 күн бұрын
I was born in 1988, so I was sort of a early to mid millennial. And I remember having that sort of experience of a analogue existence blended with a bit of digital existence. My older Sister was a earlier millennial and my younger brother was born two years after me but I was raised by Baby Boomer parents. I sort of had my formative early childhood in that sort of cultural cusp of the late 1980's to the early 1990's so I experienced that formative Gen X influence from things like Twin Peaks, Beavis and Butthead and The Simpsons. And I suppose experiencing that cultural "transition" period from the late 1980's to the early 1990's sort of explains why I like Vaporwave and Synthwave so much. Not to mention I moved up to the Seattle area right after my little brother was born because of my Dad's job being moved there.
@icewelder8117
@icewelder8117 3 күн бұрын
15:47 GO NAGAI SPOTTED
@coatsiecoates1576
@coatsiecoates1576 2 күн бұрын
Subbed
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Ty
@jag8968
@jag8968 3 күн бұрын
Lets goooo
@teddykayy
@teddykayy 2 күн бұрын
Gen Xrs ended up extremely cringe (just look at Bagge's other work as an excellent example) but Hate was a damn good comic.
@rainbowrotcod
@rainbowrotcod 2 күн бұрын
I really skipped to a random point in the video and saw Jeffrey Dahmer 😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵
@TheMightyPika
@TheMightyPika 2 күн бұрын
People always say that pre-internet society was more 'in touch' with each other and maybe that's true for extroverts and people who fit in socially, but for social outcasts (take your pick which flavor of outcast), we were horribly isolated. For example, when a high schooler in my district took his own life on the steps of the school, I overheard the teachers saying , 'This is God's way of weeding out the weak ones." That was the attitude towards LGBT, mentally ill, neurodivergent, and basically anyone who was a "minority".
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
That's a good point. On the other hand, before the Internet, there was more incentive for social outcasts to socialize with each other irl, rather than on their computer screens
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
But those also had Cultures. And Met. In Flesh. Outside.
@Shmorky818
@Shmorky818 2 күн бұрын
14:30 cough* Scott Pilgrim
@kevinschmith9379
@kevinschmith9379 2 күн бұрын
What?
@jamestaylor3805
@jamestaylor3805 2 күн бұрын
Sandman! Sandman! Sandman!
@jamestaylor3805
@jamestaylor3805 2 күн бұрын
Also Lethargic Lad!
@Tetradugenica1
@Tetradugenica1 3 күн бұрын
whatup
@theohudson001
@theohudson001 2 күн бұрын
Xer, class of '94, loved and still love HATE a lot. This video brought the feeling of the time back, really Neat Stuff, thanks.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
It's not fair that Bagge's only bringing it back for four issues! But we take what we can get.
@pancudowny
@pancudowny 2 күн бұрын
FINALLY! Someone that agrees with me that the whiny attitude of 90's youth was a bunch of bullshit!
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
I think Gen X were victims of media hype - they were both derided & exploited & it fostered generational narcissism. But like I say in the vid, most of my favorite culture growing up was made by Xers
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
@@cartoonaesthetics '' & it fostered generational narcissism '' As opposed to now ?
@pancudowny
@pancudowny 2 күн бұрын
@@nacflghs-n7w It's worse, now... because now we have instant gratification in terms of vanity on a global scale. Why else would Tik-Tok and Intsagram exist? For "educational purposes"... like Facebook did at first? Or "artistic self-expression" like KZfaq truly once did? Please...!😒
@pancudowny
@pancudowny 2 күн бұрын
@@cartoonaesthetics I hated most culture of the 90's. And if it weren't for the tech it saw developed & made available during it--including the recovery of automotive performance and styling (The post-malaise/new musclecar era)--I would've probably closed my bedroom door, turned-off my TV and stereo, and waited for the year 2000 to come... like I had been doing since I first saw a truly futuristic concept car: The GM Aero 2000--which became the styling basis of the Saturn SC. That, and waited to see the 70's become retro-cool... like the 50's & 60's did during the 70's & 80's, respectively... like I knew they would during the 90's.
@beatnik111
@beatnik111 2 күн бұрын
finally someone gets it as a gen Z or who is actually more obsessed with Gen X culture I find it really interesting
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
There's probably never going to be another generation who were the focus of so much attention, who then were cast aside. Truly the middle children of history
@beatnik111
@beatnik111 2 күн бұрын
@@cartoonaesthetics i agree I guess still always be something of a Revival but the Revival is never the real thing but I do think we'll always have weird sayings and pop culture don't get me wrong
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
Why do you call people's culture ' revival ' ?
@adcaptandumvulgus4252
@adcaptandumvulgus4252 2 күн бұрын
Gen xers are absurdist a lot of times I think in my not so unable to me
@paulforester6996
@paulforester6996 2 күн бұрын
I remember driving knowing my mother couldn't call me to ruin the moment. It's no wonder there are so many incels nowadays. BTW, I always hated Batman. The fantasy of some rich person saving them was stupid in my mind as a child. Superman wasn't much better. Spiderman was more relatable to me as a Gen X child.
@Chef_Alpo
@Chef_Alpo 2 күн бұрын
Hah, I was born in '85 and you've done a great job conveying much of my own observations and experiences. I grew up in a time where we looked up to gen x and expected our journey into young adulthood to mirror what we saw in society and extrapolated through entertainment induced hyper-realism. Of course, the closer we got to 2000 the more it became apparent that the world was taking a completely different course. I find it so interesting how many people around my age who had a taste of the way the world was but never got to solidify themselves in it have a sense of deprivation and some degree of feeling ripped off. I can usually read these people by the cynicism in their tone and the old sarcastic humor often delivered in a stupid sounding voice impression. Of course, some in this age range seemed to not have been effected, these are the ones that fully embraced the typical millennial path. I think Sam Hyde is a good example of the type of Xennial personality I am speaking of, or at least he was back when he would have the intermittent serious moments of contemplation.
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
Millenials sound super preppy to me. I saw someone say Sam Hyde is super edgy, which i find FASCINATING. Nothing that would make me think Edgy.
@eighto220_fps
@eighto220_fps 3 күн бұрын
Try hard edginess was def king for a while there in the 90s
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 3 күн бұрын
Muh vulgar wave
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
I don't think so, I think that's what other generations get wrong about Gen X. It was natural edginess.
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
Because we grew up COMPLETELY Differently, and I think people can't understand the contexts and read things differently.
@eighto220_fps
@eighto220_fps 2 күн бұрын
@@nacflghs-n7w it was until it wasn’t. Then it was simply what was selling so it was propped up until it was played out and so on.
@frankenjstein9371
@frankenjstein9371 2 күн бұрын
Gen X here and I haight this video. Unless you are a Gen-Xer than why don't you concentrate on your own generation.
@user-lh8ye3wz5k
@user-lh8ye3wz5k 2 күн бұрын
wow 2 minutes, and I realized the video was made by a millennial. Sorry guy, you don't know what you're talking about. - you got a lot wrong.
@theunwantedcritic
@theunwantedcritic 2 күн бұрын
Billy Idol punk rock band was called generation X in the late 1970s. You’re confusing when Generation X was born and came of age with when corporation started Marketing directly to them. Tim Burton Batman was 1989 which meant he made it at least three years earlier. That’s how long it takes to make a movie. And let’s be clear all these Social generations are all just marketing. It’s a way for corporations to sell you things. The baby boomers and their children. The millennials are each number about 1 billion people each. There’s no way 1 billion people all have the same personality or lifestyles. Generation X is actually a little bit older than is depicted here. They came of age in the late 70s and the 80s. Not the 90s. I was in my 30s in the 90s that’s not coming of age. I didn’t notice it at the time but that’s when I started seeing a whole bunch of extreme. I mean the word was used in everything mostly kids toys and shitty movies. Gen X are not the children of baby boomers!. Those are the millennials. The baby boom started at the end of World War II. And lasted till the beginning of the 60s. That’s when Gen X was born. So by the time most of them were 20 years old, we’re talking 82. The era you’re talking about is the 1990s. And most Gen X were over 30 at that point. Not coming of age. We came of age in the late 1970s and early 80s. I’m not even gonna watch the rest of your videos because you don’t understand how time works and anybody who’s watching this she understand that when people are born is not when their culture develops their culture develops as a become consumersin their teens and reflect on the values and taste of the previous generation. This is why everybody under 40 sounds like a gangster rapper from the 90s.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
Okay
@chigthequig
@chigthequig 2 күн бұрын
Baby Gen Xers born up to the end of the 70s. So some of use weren't coming of age then.
@nacflghs-n7w
@nacflghs-n7w 2 күн бұрын
Gen X listened to gangsta rap. Many Gen X bands played for Gen X.
@DannyBedo
@DannyBedo 2 күн бұрын
Fuck yes. Keep posting.
@cartoonaesthetics
@cartoonaesthetics 2 күн бұрын
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