Me too !!!

What a lucky passenger who sat in your seat on the next flight! ☺️

More like a true phantom patriot.

Gene knew one critical thing: that he didn't know every system inside and out but knew he had people that did and put his trust in them. That TRULY is leadership.

Thank you. Never heard that quote. Makes me feel much better about his fate. He was one of the three in the Apollo 1 fire, right?

Great quote. Along the same vein, when I think of Ed White, it’s the first US EVA where he spent 23 minutes tethered to his capsule. He had to be coaxed, then finally sternly ordered back inside.

+dks13827 Space Launch System (SLS) and the Orion spacecraft, much? :-)

Many people would envy your ability to attend the launches - that must be an enduring memory indeed!

Same!

My father was an Electrical Engineer for NASA working at the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama. I was born in 1960 and at 58 years old I spend my hobby time debunking the "Apollo moon landing deniers" that seem to be all over KZfaq. I have acquired about 2 terabytes of NASA documents, pictures and video that I use in my endeavor to shred the deniers. I am fairly familiar with NASA's historical documents on the Apollo missions. I have seen different numbers from different sources on the issue of remaining descent propellant. All of the sources are people that would know. Examples Gene Kranz, Chris Kraft, Buzz Aldrin. This issue doesn't really fit with my "hobby" and the idea of "correcting" Gene Kranz, Chris Kraft, or Buzz Aldrin's memory is not something that I find appealing. In 2000 NASA published a document called "Apollo By The Numbers" (NASA SP-2000-4029). The following is an excerpt from the forward of "Apollo By The Numbers". While there have been many studies recounting the history of Apollo, this new book in the NASA History Series seeks to draw out the statistical information about each of the flights that have been long buried in numerous technical memoranda and historical studies. It seeks to recount the missions, measuring results against the expectations for them. This work appears in the NASA History Series as a Special Publication (SP) in the Reference Works section, SP-4000, of the series. Works in this section provide information, usually in dictionary, encyclopedic, or chronological form, for use by NASA personnel, scholars, and the public. This new publication captures for the use of all detailed information about Apollo and its unfolding during the 1960s and early 1970s. Roger D. Launius Chief Historian National Aeronautics and Space Administration October 2, 2000 From the "Apollo By The Numbers" Apollo 11 Summary page 94 (104 of 344 of the PDF) The LM landed on the Moon at 20:17:39 GMT (16:17:39 EDT) on 20 July 1969 at 102:45:39.9. Engine shutdown occurred 1.5 seconds later. The LM landed in Mare Tranquilitatis (Sea of Tranquility) at latitude 0.67408° north and longitude 23.47297° east at an angle to the surface of 4.SO, and about 3.75 n mi southwest of the planned point. Approximately 45 seconds of firing time remained at landing. (1) (1) According to the Apollo 11 Mission Report (MSC-00171), postflight analysis revealed that there was 45 seconds of fuel remaining at lunar touchdown, not as little as 7 seconds as indicated by other sources. Apollo by the numbers document: SP-4029.pdf history.nasa.gov/SP-4029.pdf Apollo 11 Mission Report (MSC-00171) www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/A11_MissionReport.pdf I need to dig into the MSC-00171 document and read the details on how they came to the conclusion that 45 seconds remained. I seem to recall that there were 2 methods to determine propellant levels for descent fuel and during the mission, controllers used the more conservative (read lower) level to determine a course of action. This may be the reason there are different recollections on propellant levels.

Rick Jones, this is brilliant. I too spend as much time as I can challenging the deniers. I don’t have your in depth knowledge so I just ask them to produce one credible witness from the hundreds of thousands of people who have been involved in space projects. Then produce evidence that will stand up in court and sue NASA. Naturally all I get is silence or abuse.

Just listen to Charlie Duke's "30 seconds" call during the landing and count the seconds until Neil Armstrong's "Engine shutoff" call.

@@nathanfugate8210 But recall the countdown to the fuel time was the "Bingo" call. That is the time left in the fuel tank to abort and fire the explosive bolts. There was definitely more fuel in the tanks than 17 seconds. The concern was that there was a "deadman's zone" that if an abort was attempted at too low an altitude above the surface while the descent engine was still firing, the abort could be critical with two engines firing at the same time. I read that somewhere but I can't remember where. But it does seem problematic because the LM did land with timeout calls. But counting backward from 30 seconds doesn't necessarily mean there were only 17 seconds of fuel until "empty". It was the amount of fuel until the Bingo call. Dear Mr. Rick Jones above, can you please enlighten me if there is any truth to what I've heard and just stated here? You appear to be highly knowledgeable about his subject. Thanks in advance.