Will it ruin the sound otherwise?

@@rabarebra Hi, Not sure what you are referring to. If you could clarify, I'll be happy to try and answer.

@@ThePressingMatters I'm referring to, if it has a slight warp, it won't affect the tracking - I think it is more in our mind, OCD - that it won't play good. I mean, 2-3mm up and down is not much, but it is annoying, yes. I got this new reissue with such a wobble up and down 2-3mm. Some call it warped, I don't know. The problem is side A and B. I am not sure if it is off-center or not. The label is at least not placed in center - my "mind" - or OCD - thinks it tracks badly because one can see slight movement of the tonearm to the left and right, just slightly. How much should be tolerable? My local store is not against swapping it to another copy. They even said I could mix them if I wanted. When we opened up another one, side D did have a different matrix (the one with CB - look at Discogs latest entry of this). Side D was the side I found the most amazing, so I went back home with this "slightly off-center" "slightly warped" record instead. Still not sure what to do about it. And thinking about this of the upcoming titles makes me worried about this quality control.

Thanks for sharing! My Disc 1 is very slightly warped, but not to a point that it impacts sound.

@@vidabogotana They were kind at the store and swapped my Disc #1. We opened up two more copies, and we couldn't find my version with that side D with FC6060-B2-45. We only found the APA-002-45-D CB variant in the matrix. I got curious, and I spent another $100 (I'm in Europe) on that variant as well. Interesting thing, the matrix' runout is 6mm less on the APA-002-45-D CB, believe it or not - but not unbelievable since it is another cut (newer?). The treble is more boosted, say maybe +1 or +2 dB. Peter Gabriel is slightly off center (to the left - not much). You may hear this treble in the snare's seide and release of the snare drum. I prefer the sound on the FC6060-B2-45. It is more natural. Peter Gabriel is positioned directly in center. I've tested these on $13000 3-way studio monitors. I'm curious what other people think about these different cuts.

Hi David, It was impossible to hide my reaction to this pressing! I had planned on examine each pressing and describing each one but I came to the conclusion that all these 33s we've known and loved are extremely hampered by the long sides of music. 18-20 minutes are idea, 25 mins not so much. That's why I decided to approach this from the perspective of the new pressing and make some brief references to the limitations of the others. Please come back and leave your thoughts on it here once you've heard it. I think many people enjoy the various perspectives that everyone contributes. Lamb is going to be a showstopper!

David, I meant to ask if you had another pressing for reference in this case? Curious which one you are used to.

@@ThePressingMatters thanks for asking, I have only 2 versions: an early German pressing with stampers 1Y 320 1A 2Y 320 1A And the Classic Records pressing. I prefer the early German in my system.

@@davidchan8108 I've heard very good things about the German. Interestingly my IK has the 420 matrix and did sound lovely. Beautiful balance.

Don’t you guys think that eight sides will be a bit too much for Lamb no matter how good it sounds? That’s a lot of flipping

Wow I am so glad you like it. It's amazing!

@@ThePressingMatters have the lamb, still sealed at Home, hope to get also the trick.... Not available in Germany 😁

@CarstenMeyer-dx6mu I think Trick will be a must have, along with Selling England of course. Two of the very best. I hope you can score them in Germany

Thank you, I am passionate about this series and they knocked the first one out of the park! Trick is the one I'm really looking forward to the most, see here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e9t0rMtyrNy9aaM.htmlsi=T1PYxCapOT0WNfF_ I discuss each release in detail.

Hi John, I never thought I'd see this happening! Tony Banks was so keen on the remixes, and with the band retiring it seemed they would be the final word. So grateful that Chad Kassel got these plates and licensing deal to give us what only a select few ever heard. The original mix in stunning fidelity. You're going to fall in love all over again! Let me know your reaction please!

Hi Bryan, I can't imagine you'd be anything but thrilled with this. It's one you really don't want to miss. I'd love to hear from you once you've heard it.

Finally picked up a copy and… wow. It’s really something to be surprised by an album I’ve heard countless times. My jaw actually dropped when listening to Firth of Fifth. Remarkable.

@@bryangibson8479 Bryan, Thank you so much for getting back to me and leaving this comment! It's an incredible experience hearing this recording like this. I bet you got the same visceral reaction when that moment in Firth of Fifth happens. That reminds me I need to play this again on my new set up! With the new speakers going lower and the VPI unlocking the music on virtually every record I've played, I expect to be even more impressed with what they did here. Glad you had a great experience with it!

So true! The banks of keyboards are utilized to great effect and add so much color and texture. It's really a showcase for Tony. Steve has so many exquisite moments on here, not only the famous solo. Are the acoustic guitars all Steve or does Mike also play some of them?

Mike and Tony - Mike played a lot of interlocking 12 string guitar on the pastoral moments

Oh interesting,I thought perhaps Steve played some acoustic.

It is primarily Steve. You can pick out the second guitar part of Mike’s more clearly on this release, very distinctive

Hi Graham! Thanks for your comment. I couldn't wait to do this review as it's one of my favorite albums. You're sure to love this release. I'm glad you understood my British reference wasn't meant disparagingly! As a kid growing up in New Hampshire , I had little exposure to anyone from England, so hearing Gabriel emphasizing the accents and using words and phrases that were distinctly British was just something we had never heard before, particularly in a rock record!

Thank you so much! Did you happen to notice the complex music revealed to be deeper with more nuance on The Battle of Epping Forest too? That took me by surprise. It was so fascinating!

I always liked the tune and the original UK conveyed that convincingly, but the 75 45 took it over the top. Detail, space, texture and micro and macro details - with swings following the stanzas in Peter’s voice more apparent. These guys were 23 at the time - unfathomable Louise, is the reverend hard to please? You’re telling me

⁠@@audiotombThe level of improvement here is significant in the appreciation of the record. One of the most dramatic of any 33 to 45 that I can recall. Really has got me curious for The Lamb Líes Down On Broadway, a record I've always liked but not loved as I do this. We shall see soon! Can't wait to go through each bit of the sprawling canvas of Lamb. If it is improved like this we will all have reason to rejoice!

Hi Arnaldo, It's an endlessly fascinating record, and finally we're able to hear everything, I recall the first time I heard it, there was nothing else even remotely like it. Still stands as one of the greatest, most creative progressive rock records ever. If you do decide to get it, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. Thanks for watching.

Ha, yes I was corrected a few times! I am a longtime listener too but I guess I never heard anyone say it and my mind just reversed it as sounding correct. Sorry!

Hi Robert, The early UK I have definitely has its charms, a beautiful balance and warmth with decent dynamics, but 25 mins on a side is pushing it. The original skates around this issue and manages to impress but when you hear what the extra space brings out, I think you'll be sold on the new pressing. If it's your favorite, don't miss out on it. Thanks for watching as always great to hear from you.

It's incredible what a great presentation and pressing can do for your appreciation of an album. You really get a sense of the intention of the music and can appreciate its fine details in a whole new level. It draws you in to its world with beauty, finesse and power. What more could a fan ask for! Lamb is coming soon!

Anthony, I am confident you will love this record. Full of interesting music, some classical touches, and such dramatic effect. Please let me know when you've had a chance to settle in with it. I remember my first hearing of it. You're in for a treat!

@@ThePressingMatters loving the stream. Great songs with wonderful invention.

@@AudiophiliaChannel It's a very creative record for us who love both rock and classical. You might be won over to Peter Gabriel era Genesis once you've hear this pressing properly over your reference system.

Excellent! I'm sure you'll be very happy with this one. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway arrives tomorrow! I hope it reaches the level of this one!

You're welcome! It was a pleasure to do this one. Not to be missed. Probably my favorite reissue of the year! Let me know how you like it once you've heard it ok?

Hi Derek, I loved hearing your comments on this pressing. It's really remarkable how much better it is than any other edition. I have only heard one of those remixes and did not like it at all. It baffles me that some prefer them! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video. Stay tuned for The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, coming very soon!

The vocal are definitely more natural, but there is something about the remix I prefer. It has drive and punch. I’m not usually a remix guy but the original mix on this album is a bit tame

@@jackiepuppet9289 The remix does have some fans, but I can't personally say anything about it. I will try to hear it and make a comment. I don't think this new version is lacking drive and punch!

Perhaps not the whole album but Moonlit Knight (my favorite from the album)has more drive and emotion on the remix to me. Listen to when the chorus interjects around 3:45 right before “there’s a fat old lady outside the saloon”. That hits me more on the remix. That’s just me though

That's one of my favorite parts. I'll have to hear what you're talking about. I actually almost mentioned that exact moment in my review because it did stand out as an improvement as well.

Hi, and thank you so much for your comments. It was hard to contain my enthusiasm for this release, and now you can hear why! It's awesome. Really beat everything I had, and was such a pleasure to revisit. Thanks for letting me know your reaction to it, and for your kind words about my reviews. More coming soon, including the new Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, but I'm taking my time with it.

@@ThePressingMatters hi! Yes, your enthusiasm was all over. Now, just thinking out loud here, perhaps you could think of a video dedicated solely to the Genesis releases from Acoustic Sounds. I think there's a lot in there. Like you, I'm waiting for a "A Trick of the Tail", which apparently doesn't come from the master tape. On The Lamb, I'm not to keen on getting it (too pricey!), but will it really stack up to the latest remaster? Do you think you would get a "reaching nirvana" moment from The Lamb as you did from "Selling England..."? Have a great Sunday Scott and thank you for all the energy and effort you put behind your reviews and videos.

Im working on a Lamb review. It's a big undertaking, but I'm trying to find a balance between essential information and enough detail where we don't end up with a 30 minute video. Most people have a threshold for the length of a video.

Thanks Oz, That will be great for you to spend some more time with Aja. And I can't imagine any why you won't love the new Genesis. Leaps over all the 33s in my opinion.

Thank you my friend. It's an album I know like the back of my hand, so it was easy for me to elaborate on my favorite sections. I'm so glad you are persuaded to get this. It's worth the bucks just for Fifth of Firth alone! My favorite reissue this year. A clean German might be stiff competition for the other pressings I have shown, but I bet this is going to blow you away. You've got to come back and let me know what you thought of this one you've heard it. Stay onboard for the next one, The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway!

@@ThePressingMatters yes Scott I just received the Phil Collins Face Value and I was blown away by “In The Air Tonight” the Lamb is on my list to grab and some jazz titles like the Mingus and Giant Steps by John Coltrane .

@@MrLovell1971I'm still on the fence with Phil. Need to decide soon.

Anthony, thanks for watching both of those videos. It's impossible to contain my excitement and I'm glad it shows! They came out of the gate with a winner! This release, being such a lengthy recording was crying out for the 45 treatment. The shorter sides made a huge difference overall. Let me know once you've heard it!

Hi Luigi! Welcome to my channel. My Italian is not so good either :-) I'm happy you enjoyed this video. It was easy to be passionate about this record. I absolutely love it. Thanks for subscribing!

Hi Jim! Oh boy, I think you will fall in love with this one all over again. You know when I can't hide my excitement for something. This is one that is truly a big step up in SQ from anything we've had before. To hear it on today's audiophile oriented systems is just a pleasure. Can't wait to hear what you think.

@@ThePressingMatters That was what sold me: your gushing enthusiasm. I was not a Genesis fan until 1975 when I met someone who was all in on Genesis. We traded LP's to try out, this Genesis LP for one of my Robin Trower LPs. After seeing your review my memory started coming back. You did a great job describing the sonic attributes. My copy arrives Saturday together with the Wes Montgomery Complete Full House Recordings. I seem to be unable to pass up the free shipping you get when spending $100.

@jfm0830 I hope it meets your expectations and then some. Make sure you get some power on those climaxes in Firth of Fifth and Cinema Show!

@@ThePressingMatters Hey Scott. I hate this time of year and what it does to deliveries. I had 4 different delivery dates & FedEX missed all of them until today (Tuesday 11/21). Arrrgh. I ultrasonically cleaned the record and started to play it. It was the perfect pressing: Dead quiet, dead flat & dead centered. The stylus landed in the lead in groove and then total silence between tracks until the needle lifted from the runout groove. Amazing and I had it cranked up. My observations are like yours. One of the first things that blew me away was the 3D soundstage. It was like a quarter of a sphere, not unlike The Hatch Shell in Boston the the BSO and the Pops play. I heard things directly 180 deg. to my left and right about 12' away. At times the soundstage seemed to float up to 12' off the floor. There were a ton of details that I never remember hearing like this or at all. The instruments all had a sense of clarity and air around them like they were floating in space. The instruments were highly realistic sounding. I was amazed at the bass. At times I felt the deep bass rather than hear it. The two mid-woofers on each of my towers were visible fluttering from the deep bass. This was NOT rumble from the record surface or acoustic feed back, I have an isolation stand that I know prevents this. This only occurred during the deepest bass passages. I could also see my sub-woofer cone in motion at times. It is rare that there is enough bass that I can see the subs from 10' away. They are usually working but no visible vibration except certain passages on classical music. It was amazing how this LP could transition from LOUD, BOMBASTIC climaxes to soft and gentle passages. The instruments were clearly discernible at both loudness levels. I will have to measure the dynamic of this LP with my SPL meter. This album is so amazing that I did two things upon first listen. The first was to cue the LP up for a second play. The second was to go to the Acoustic Sounds website and ordered "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" and "A Trick of the Tail" LPs from the Atlantic 75 series. Thanks Scott for your "enthusiastic" (polite was of saying "gushing") review. I am taking a new look at what is being issued on this series. I was passing on a lot of these titles, because the ones I'd want I have. The versions I own have very good sound, maybe not the best but up there. I will now have to rethink this based on how good this Genesis LP is. I have never heard it sound close to this quality. For example I have MoFi's of Foreigner, the Yes Fragile One Step and the Steven Wilson Yes Box. I will be interested to see reviews comparing these releases.

@@jfm0830 Jim, I love your descriptions of your experience with this amazing record. I can just imagine how you felt hearing it like this! I'm so thrilled with this reissue. There is so much here to keep you going back again and again. I'm so glad you liked my recommendation. I was really hoping you'd see this review and give it a try. I know when I rave about something it better be darn good. Several people said that my review sold them on it, and I'm grateful that you took the time to share your experience here in the comments.

That would be a most excellent gift for yourself! It frankly left other copies behind in overall immersion, dynamics, etc. it shows how restricted the original 33 really is with those lengthy sides. This gives you everything you love in a more relaxed, open way with less distortion, more impact and natural tone. If you get it I'd love to hear how it affected you!

This might have been my favorite review to do. I have a deep appreciation for this record and sharing the good news on the 45 and getting to describe all those fantastic moments was a joy. I hope you'll come back and comment on the record once you've settled into it for a few plays. I predict you'll have a big smile on your face!

I hope you can get these fairly reasonably up there in Canada. Surely they'll be a few that are must haves. I skipped most of the first and second batch but had to have this. Hope you can hear it sometime. If you like Nursery Cryme, you will love SEBTP!

The flips on this really didn't bother me. The sides still click in an average of 13 mins a side and the breaks thankfully don't affect any obvious continuity of split a song.

Hi Stephen, I know it's expensive to get it there but if it's any consolation, if the situation was reversed and I had been able to hear what I heard with this pressing, I'd pay $100 to import it from the UK. It's that good and important to me. If it's a desert island disc for you, I say go for it.

Was I enthusiastic :-) I couldn't help it. My favorite Genesis album. Thanks so much for watching!

Thank you! I think you'll be as impressed as I was with how much deeper you'll feel this music. It's quite extraordinary. Please come back and let me know your thoughts on it!

Thank you so much Jim! It was a pleasure to do this one!

Hi Jason! You obviously must love the record! You're like me, three copies already, did I really need this? The answer is yes! It's a significant improvement, and just a delight to hear it in this quality. If you do go for it, please come back and comment. With so many copies, your insights will be valuable to all of us.

Drop Scott a line - I think this can be rectified

Hi @chuin10, One of my viewers contacted me, and he had seen your comment about not being able to afford a copy of this record. He expressed a desire to send you a copy! If you leave your contact information at my email, I'll forward it to him so he can contact you. My email is sw. thepressingmatters@gmail.com

Hi Peter, You probably have the gold standard there and I wish o could have heard it, but I feel pretty confident that as good as the originals and early pressings are, all the 33s suffer in comparison to spreading this out on four sides. If ever there was a record to demonstrate that it's this one. In a totally different league to the Classic 33, cut at the same time by the same engineer. I think you are going to like it.

You're welcome! You are going to be astonished! Beautiful release. Let me know what you think once you've heard it!

Excellent! I will guide you as best I can. I hate crap vinyl! Only the best here. Please subscribe and you'll start loving your vinyl much more!

Selling England guaranteed to blow your mind!

@@ThePressingMatters Subscribed and have been to your Amazon store. You are stuck with me now.

@@ThePressingMatters It is now on my shopping cart! TY.

Hi Darrin! Glad you got excited! You should be! This is an amazing release that I'm sure is going to exceed your expectations.

Sorry, I meant Scott !! typed too fast 🙂 my apologies

Thank you so much. Many have mistakenly called me Steve! I must look like one :-) Glad you enjoyed the video. I love the album so much, it was not difficult to let it show! A great impressive effort by Analogue Productions. We Genesis fans are in for a ride. Stay tuned!

You're going to love it! It's actually Chris Bellman!

It was originally announced that Bernie would do a new remaster, but it was decided to go back to the Classic plates. I'm sure it was felt this would offer the best fidelity.

Bernard, please promise me you'll come back to the comments to share your thoughts on this once you've heard it.

I absolutely love Trick of the Tail. I talk quite a bit about it in this overview and favorably discuss the MOFI. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e9t0rMtyrNy9aaM.htmlsi=umSppiP56MpVfGZE

No offense but the Mofi Trick suks. Sorry. Try the 1st gen cd and be amazed.

@emilestoffels4268 No offense taken. all opinions are welcome here. That is a release I haven't extensively compared to anything. I'll look for the first CD, as I've heard numerous times it's the best digital version. For vinyl, I don't feel a need to search now with this coming eventually. I'm sure the original UK and Japan are very good.

Excellent! You have no idea (well maybe a little now!) what your in for. Get ready for an awe inspiring experience. Please come back and leave your comments here!

@@ThePressingMatters I got my copy yesterday and I must say it is fabulous! When this album was released in 1973, I was 10 years old so Genesis were not on my radar at that age. I started to follow them when around Duke and beyond. I am looking forward to getting all of these AP Genesis releases (combo of vinyl/SACD) in the months and years ahead! Cheers

@@LifelongMusicJunkie I'm thinking of trying the SACDs of the Genesis titles too. SACD is relatively new to me. I have a unit here on loan and I want to see if I feel SACD can reach the potential of the vinyl. Wouldn't it be nice to spend $35 rather than $60 and get the same sound or better! What is your experience when comparing the same title on both formats?

@@ThePressingMatters I bought my SACD player in the Spring and I am trying to not duplicate, but to choose titles as alternates. The exception is The Eagles from Mofi, I have all One-Steps and all SACDs. The One-Steps are better but the SACD's are solid and I opt for those when I am busy with work around the house so no flipping records. I am opting for the Steely Dan SACDs as opposed to the UHQR's, except for Aja. So being selective is my plan, saving me in the end (of course the player cost $$$) 😄

@wdb-Music-Motorcycles Yeah they are pricy. The one I'm using is a Marantz multi format player - seems more geared to AV use yet it does do SACD, DVD Audio, CD and more. Probably not audiophile but it just Sloan to see if I would enjoy stepping back into digital for an alternative.

Hi Tony, It is amazing that these never came out on Classic, but here we are! A gift for us Genesis fans.

​@@ThePressingMattersmine has arrived and what a masterpiece 🎉🎉

@@tonynewman1694 Awesome! I told ya! Fantastic release, so glad you're thrilled with it! Thank you so much for getting back to me and everyone reading the comments for opinions. Seems everyone is impressed!

Hi! Thanks for your comments. How lucky you are to have the test pressing! Very rare indeed. I did not know it was on clear vinyl, interesting. It should share the same plates as the new one with the exception of Side Two which was recut recently by Chris Bellman. I'm sure you'll enjoy the new release if you go for it. It's probably much quieter overall than the Classic, and that really helps this album come to life.

I think you are going to love this pressing. Please let me know when you've heard it! I now know it's Firth of Fifth but yours was the first explanation of what it refers to! Thank you for your comment and stay tuned for The Lamb 45. Just landed today. Review coming soon.

@@ThePressingMatters Dang. And I just a couple months ago replaced my old warped vinyl copy with a German printing. I LOVE the the lamb album. It was my entry into Genesis. Kurt and I played it endlessly back in the '70s. I decided during COVID to sit down and try to truly understand what it was that Gabriel was saying. It took me literally months of piecing ideas together, but I think I finally have a (semi) coherent understanding and it is not a nightmare. In fact, I just finished an essay about it and am trying to get a copy to Peter for his review. Finding an address has not been easy. My emails to his studio have gone unanswered. However I have contacted both Phil and Steve with Hackett actually reading it. He graciously said nice things about it.

@rk41gator That is so cool! Listening to it (45) right now trying to come to some conclusions regarding sound. The story I will leave to you and Peter!

Since I wrote this our turntable went into the shop so I did not open my 'new' recording. However, I noticed that the German release was of the 2008 re-mix. I have since returned that copy. My record store will not have the Atlantic 75 release until next month, but am definitely getting on the waiting list.

@@rk41gator it's worth the wait. Good call on returning the remix. It's a travesty how loud everything is on the remix. All the delicacy gone. You're going to love the 45. Let me know!

Thanks for the correction! I love the effect.

Hi, I understand what you are saying and I'll try and explain how I see this. I feel it's always a case by case basis. What I am most seeking is the best SQ, but also the quietest pressings that often come with reissues. Yes if one cares to search and find the elusive original that happens to also be quiet, thats great. But how often does that happen and how many originals did you have to purchase to find the one. I'm just not up to that any more. Give me a well done reissue such as this one and I'm thrilled. Same with the Tone Poets, Craft etc. I'm not looking for more detail, but a nice balance of quality recording, balanced mastering and impeccable pressing. I don't lose sleep over the crackly shaded dog that had a touch more bloom than the very fine AP reissue. I am just too sensitive to noisy pressings, so I prefer new records. I'm very selective. Top engineers, pressing plants and sourcing. A nice jacket and I'm happy. A mind blowing upgrade and I'm ecstatic. That's how o feel about SEBTP. It has everything I'm looking for. Same could be said for the AJA UHQR. One could easily sift through half a dozen OGs and spend the same amount as the UHQR. At some point it's good enough. In these two cases it's better in my opinion.

Thanks for your detailed response. It's helpful understanding the essence behind your reviews. I have the classic version of that record and a US first press and so appreciate the review.

@@HoomanR17 You're welcome! I am always open to hearing the best original and if I don't have it, I can try and borrow it for these shootouts or comparisons. I think it's very important to have a reference.

Wow, that's one of the best Doors reissues! I assume you mean the 45? You're going to be in audio heaven today!

@ThePressingMatters it is the 45 and waiting for the lamb and when the trick of the tail is released I will also get the doors 45

@@ThePressingMatters I sent some pics on your Instagram

Come back and let me know what you thought of Genesis, and LA Woman. Adjust the volume a bit higher than normal!

@ThePressingMatters I have a pair of klipschorns powered by a dynaco st-70 The klipschorns are 104 db efficient so I will let my neighbors enjoy it to !

I plan to track down that German pressing because several people have mentioned it as a good one. As far as Firth of Fifth. I can't believe I have been saying it incorrectly for years and no one has corrected me. I guess making that error on a public forum was the answer! Lol. I have no idea what it refers to. I figured it was something like the Fifth Duke of Firth or something very British! So I now stand corrected!

@@ThePressingMatters About the Battle of Epping Forest: quite a few Genesis fans have problems with that piece. I really don't understand that. It's about gangs in England visualized in almost a radio play setting. It's f*8@% brilliant! It's a real masterpiece. Too English? Too Gabriel heavy? Who cares, it's art with an A. It reminds me of the Gangs of NY movie.

@@emilestoffels4268 The genius the song really come through perfectly on the new pressing. Lots of subtle things happening within the music are simoly easier to discern and appreciate. Then there's Peter! What a fun piece.

Yes I did, and that was just from memory. Wait til you hear it for yourself. You'll be speechless! Yes I've got the title correct now. I've been saying it backwards for years!

Thank you so much! Well this is a very good question because even though the Classic Records plates were used, Bellman recut side two from the original tape. Why this is we don't know. Was plate two damaged for some reason? Missing? If so why wasn't the whole record recut of the tape was available? Perhaps it was completely recut, but it was found the plates sounded better except for side two. I wish I had more info but this is a question for Chad or Bellman. I'll reach out and see if I can get an answer.

that would be great to find out the process they used, and going forward I hope they are a bit more forthcoming. At the end of the day, I'm so happy with what they did do that maybe it doesn't matter, but still, it would be nice to know. @@ThePressingMatters

Hi Dave, this was the issue with all 33rpms of this record. Where an ideal length for fidelity is 18-20 minutes this record really pushed it and it's a miracle the original sounded as good as it did. When you hear it at 45 with all that space, it's dramatically better.

Hi Micheal, thank you for your comment. I have to say I used to feel the same about Battle of Epping Forest. Because although it's the same song obviously, I never have appreciated it as much as how I heard it here. It's taken on a new dimension, more so in the music having more interest and impact but also the vocal. It's admittedly not reaching the emotional heights of Firth of Firtg and Cinema Show, but I think its stature just increased immeasurably. I hope you can hear this version at some point. I did not subscribe, though I'd love to, it's just too much money. I'm content with about 20 -25 preordered and I'll go from there. Thanks so much for watching!

I actually have the new pressing, I just haven't got to listen to it yet. Life's been getting in the way of playtime. I mulled over a subscription but there are just too many artists included in the series that I'm A.) Unfamiliar with or B.) Have a mild interest (at best) to warrant plopping down $60 + shipping per release to with the hope that I might like it. @@ThePressingMatters

Hi and welcome to the channel! So glad you found me 😊 My system used for any evaluation is listed in the description box of each video. I also have done some system update videos, here is the last one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jJybgLxo1r7dnHU.htmlsi=Mg7ZX8E_7br4UvOj So glad you'll be joining me for my look through all the Genesis titles coming. Please subscribe so you don't miss anything! I'm working on The Lamb 45 as we speak, listening through and doing some comparisons.

My current analogue system is the Hana ML, on the Basis 1400 turntable with a Rega RB300 Tonearm with a wiring upgrade. Here you can see the turntable a bit better kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrCbdNKFrMubdpc.htmlsi=ExTblLSOJQ0dzxEy

@@ThePressingMatters Thank you😊!

Yes I can easily give this one my blessing LOL. Seriously, you know me, my taste, my system, my listening preferences and style in delivering information on my channel. I'm always cautious in how I say something and leave some leeway for variables. I'm really happy my suggestions have been on point! I know enough about you too from our back and forth over ghe last few years, and I was hoping you would show up in the comments so I could personally say to you. Get it! Don't miss it! You're going to love it! You know it's good when I get like I did in the video. Had I played Firth of Fifth right before filming I probably would have been a bit shaken emotionally and looking completely insane!

@@ThePressingMatters Wow. You weren't lyin'. This record sounds beautiful and perfect. Listening to this 2x45 QRP pressing on my stereo is an amazing experience. A completely different experience than listening to the CD or streaming. I'm hearing things in the music I've never heard before. And really digging the music more than I ever have before. A great purchase. Thanks again for the solid recommendation. Hope you are well. Ron C

Hi Ron! I try and report things exactly as I hear them. You can tell when I'm very excited that something special is under review. This is one of those records. Glad you found my recommendation spot on. It's so good, I want a back up copy lol!

Nice to hear from you Jeff. This is my thought on it. There is a small dropout or tape issue. In my opinion it is so insignificant, I don't think most would notice it. It should in no way deter someone interested in this from going forward. I found the side breaks on this album unobtrusive. No longer composition is split. Also I didn't find any sound difference in the newly cut side 2 of any concern. The record sounds glorious to me.

Thanks Scott. Very helpful.

It's there, perhaps a tape edit, by honestly it's so minor, I missed it on the few listens I had as I was doing the lead up to the review. I don't think it's of much consequence considering everything else. The positives are overwhelming compared to a tape millisecond that most would never be aware of unless looking for it. Don't let this deter you if you are interested in this magnificent edition.

Hi Leon, Yes I have all the Classics, and will compare to at least those if not originals. This one turned out so well. It needed the extra space, being such a long album. It's a great example of the advantages of 45.

Do you think it sounds better on a different edition? I'll go back and compare that one track against my UK to see if I hear anything that you describe.

No low end, higher end are muted drums to low in the mix. Don’t think it’s the pressing think it’s the 2 track mix down. The rest of the tracks are great

Thank you, You know I just started reading about people hearing a dropout or a tape splice at that point, and to be honest I did not notice it when doing this video. There must be something to it so I promise I'll check it and get back to you here as soon as possible

Thank you for your comment! Yes, that came to light after this video was made. I've followed along with it and it may have been done due to an issue with the original plate. I don't hear any issues with this side on my set with the original plate, so something must have come up after the first batch was pressed. From what I gather, the new cut sounds fine and in keeping with the sound across all the sides.it will be interesting if one ends up being preferred. Nevertheless, I wouldn't let this deter you from getting the record. It's quite a leap in sound quality.

@@ThePressingMatters This is my dilemma now, as I can go to the store and get the other variant. Yeah, which one will people prefer? It seems I got the first variant then, : FC-6060-B2-45 on side D's matrix, without the CB initials. Is that correct? The other one is: APA-002-45-D CB Side C is slightly different too: FC-6060-B1-45 SM#1 APA 002-45 C Why the SM#1 etc.? Is this something AP won't reveal because of an error/bad cause, or do anyone know?

@@ThePressingMatters Instead of thinking too much about this, I went and bought the other variant as well.

I've been wanting a back up copy so I might do the same!

I think it's one of the last titles if I recall correctly. Could be two years?

@@ThePressingMatters thanks, wow, I preordered too. Should have just waited but FOMO kicked in. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@KoolKatDave Trust me you DONT want to miss that one! I ordered it in the first hour of the announcement!

@@ThePressingMatters nice, thank you.

Hi Micheal. I'll put it this way. Waves of pleasure, hair standing on end, tactile goosebumps on your skin, and lump in your throat and a strong emotional response that is a combination of giddiness and tears of joy! The dynamic range is perfect. Play it loud!

I wish but I'm sober ;-)

Yes they will repress it as far as I know. They do seem to be using the previous plates as far as they are viable, and then recutting sides where necessary. I don't like this way of doing it because each pressing might sound different. The recut side I heard was fine, pretty much undetectable, but I'd rather they either have the whole album a consistent cut among all sides.

thanks for the response, and explanation. I'm definitely throwing down for these Genesis reissues.@@ThePressingMatters

@@xnyph8490 Either way, they are wonderful. Any fan would love these. Can't wait for the next ones!

One hundred percent! @@ThePressingMatters

Is it!? If true I'm embarrassed that I never realized it. (Running to check my labels now, he he) Thanks for the correction! You are correct sir! I guess I've never heard anyone else speak the title before.

@@ThePressingMatters Not too worry Scott. Surprised with all those copies you never noticed it.

@@jgfergus Maybe I'm a bit dyslexic. I often transpose numbers and letters. Add in a few vision issues. Glad to get it straight now!

This and Foxtrot are my favorite Genesis albums. Probably my two favorite 70s Prog Rock albums. I wasn’t really planning on dropping $60 to get another copy, but…. Yeah, after seeing your review I’m probably going to do it now.

@@Bondrkmz I can't imagine any reason you'd regret it. It's substantially better in every meaningful way. If it's a favorite, don't miss it.

Hi Charlie. I understand but I think these breaks are logically placed and personally didn't mind. The trade off was huge for me. I guess you are going to be reluctant to get the 8 sided Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. I might have feelings about that one!

No offense intended! When I was young and first listening to this album, the exaggerated British accents and phrases were so foreign to a kid who never left his hometown in NH. That's all I meant by that.

@@ThePressingMatters No offence taken :) I must admit that PG goes over the top with his mockney accent (given he was a posh boy).

I'm sorry, but I don't have the 2017. That's is a remix, and most people prefer the original mix. The Atlantic 75 gives you the original mix in the best fidelity possible. If you love this record you really should upgrade to this.

@@ThePressingMatters thank you! I ordered and my uncel from the us need to bring me. Couse shipping from the site to israel is 60 dollar!

I know that's crazy $$, but I can tell you I would have paid $125 for this if it had been marketed as a UHQR. It's that good!

@@ThePressingMatters wow i am so exided!