Call an ambulance but not for meeeeeeee

You'll catch them..... Eventually...

@@9051team Their base can't run away!

Compelled by faith, thou have no choice.

funny thing is that Genitour actually is a great choice for anti archer damage for teutons due to the faster movement speed making up for lacking bracer (not by much, but every little bit helps)

thats the biggest i think

@@jakab174 yea. mobility makes a huge difference, at least at higher level play. chosing engagements is big

Id actually say thats even more important with xbow than with ca. CA outruns both genitour and skirm. It cant run circles around genitours, but it can flee and strike again at a different place. However, xbow can run from skirms, making even a small group of xbow a real nuissance to clear up with skirms because you will have to chase over half the map. Genitours on the other hand can just clear them up instantly.

@@CG-eh6oe good point

i had a game against spain, conquistadors would have been much harder to counter if i dont have these units. They just cant hit and run

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And if you're allied with an elephant civ, you should get the imperial elephant skirmisher

@@afz902k 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

they breed just the finest of skirmishers

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I don't like where this is going... eugenics in AoE2?

It's coming in the new DLC the Whittakers

well bred skirmishers do matter

same :(

@@darkmx0z let's make the intro come back!!

@@cfv7461 Im with you

Wasn't it in the previous video? Or maybe two videos ago

@@WikiHL it was, is like a mirage appearing some times and others not

Can Turks get imp skirm with Vietnamese ally?

@@battleforevermore No

There's the question, why would you use skirm like units in a teamgame

@@StraightEdgeNexus elite genitours with extra 20hp is quite tanky af

@@StraightEdgeNexus "Why skirms in a team game?" Because the gold is running low. Maybe your trade got disrupted. Maybe you quickly need to build up mass. Have you never encountered trash battles in late-game team games? A Turk player likely already has the infrastructure to mass genitours, because they tend to build cav archers. The typical Turks units are Cav Archers, Janissary and Bombard Cannons (and Camels), all very gold intensive. They do get the Hussar for free (and are likely to already have researched blood lines and husbandry), but that is all the trash they can count on. So adding the genitour as a way to supplement your forces when gold runs low is a godsend. Especially if they are used to pad your cav archer force to fight through slow trickling trade as a way to keep up numbers.

The Spanish, Portugese and Berbers should have them as they are based on the Iberian light cavalry units called Jinetes

I think Turks would be an excellent civ to be given access to the genitour! We need more regional-unique units

agree some other civs should get the genitour, as it stands the camel archer (along with cheaper cavalry) fillls such a big hole that we rarely see genitours , because they're almost unnecessary, whereas if other civs (that lacked the counters that berbers have access to) had access to genitours, we would actually see them used

Yeah Genitours should have been a regional unit instead, give Berbers new team bonus. Probably Kasbah effect can be turned into team bonus but obviously with lower percentages, then as new UT you can get something that specifically affects the Genitours or both Genitours and Camel Archers

@@CrnaStrela You could make it a regional unit, and still let the Berbers have the same team bonus. Alternatively, you could give an additional bonus for civs that already have the unit. For example: Team Bonus: Genitors are available at the Archery Range. For teammates that already had access to Genitors, they gain +50% build speed.

Look at the test against heavy cavalry archer. Mangudai are similar, taking more damage and dealing more damage.

@@lagg1e I guess you might be right, but the fast fire rate of the mangudai and that 1 extra attack can make a HUGE difference, just like the Lithuanians' tower shields on skirms makes them WAY stronger than normal ones vs cav archers or even arbalests.

Doesn't make any sense but it's probably a balancing issue

@@MidwestBoom They almost never get used so it should be fine to try out...

yeah they should benefit from Parthian tactics, same as Arambai.

Didn't expect Doremy pfp here

@@elephantt2077 Touhou fans playing AoE2, let's gooooooo!

Or Vietnamese Genitours with +20% HP. ;)

Yeah, that blew my mind actually. Totally forgot about them until he showed it.

We'll find out next video.

yes but dravidians dont get husbandry or bloodlines though

I'm more curious about the increased counter damage Gujara mounted units get

@@Jallorn 200 IQ play, but not sure if the bonus damage is enough to compensate for missing armour

@@spaak3465 Fair, it just feels like a fun combo

And who could forget the ELITE JANITORS!?!? Iconic

No it's not elite bonuses, I believe SOTL did made a mistake here, Skirms only deal 1 damage against FU cav archers so majority of their dmg are from bonus dmg which are 4 against archers + 2 against mounted archers for total 7 + 1 = 8 dmg, while Elite Genitours have 1 more attack which reduced by FU CA would resulted in 2 dmg + 5 against archers + 2 against mounted archers for total of 9 dmg. For Skirms to deal 12 dmg to cav archers, they need to be missing parthian tactics and ring archer armor which shouldn't be applicable in the discussion about Japanese FU CA who has both.

You don't have to micro with skirms, you have to micro with genitours

The Skirmisher has +3 bonus damage against the Spear line, so they actually do a fair amount of damage. The Genitour has a +2 and can kite spearmen forever, but that requires a large bit of micro

You can't micro your units continuously. It takes just 3 hits from a Halb to take down Genitours. Even with micro, you'll have to stop to fire back at some point (and they fire slowly i.e. they're not Mangudais). Better hope you have the whole map free to maneuver.

You guys are missing the point, he is saying you can just choose not to take that fight with the genitours, which isn't always an option with skirms.

And at the beginning of the video, he killed some Spearman without damage with the genitours, but they're not counter?

Shrivamsha rider and monk

Khmer: Scorp Eles are best!

yes, Mongols and Dravidians 25% faster attack