Phoebe Bridgers "I Know The End" Official Lyrics & Meaning

Phoebe Bridgers "I Know The End" Official Lyrics & Meaning | Verified

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Phoebe Bridgers‘ “I Know The End” is the singer-songwriter’s fourth single from her critically acclaimed sophomore album, 'Punisher.' The standout track, which closes her album, has racked up more than 6 million plays to date on Spotify and its music video has garnered more than 1 million KZfaq views. On the latest episode of 'Verified,' Bridgers broke down the song’s apocalyptic theme and explained why the track ends with a cacophony of screams.
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@holly-ek9tv 3 жыл бұрын

hearing a songwriter like phoebe break a song down is so so special

@eleonora5134 3 жыл бұрын

i know rightt

@phoebe_ophie 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@IbokRock811 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again!! She’s such a lyrical genius!!

@mangakatanaka3067 2 жыл бұрын

no she is speaking about the biblical end of the world wake up stop being a zombie

@mangakatanaka3067 2 жыл бұрын

@@IbokRock811 no she is not she is just speaking about the biblical end of the world wake up stop being a zombie. she probably has some satanic handler pulling her strings.

@schemarr 3 жыл бұрын

how does she have such a deep speaking voice and such a high angelic singing voice how does that work

@adhiwirawandwip3948 3 жыл бұрын

Ask justin vernon too about this. Those vocal range tho 🤯

@amber_audrey444 3 жыл бұрын

She sings in head voice :)

@magdalena7976 3 жыл бұрын

it’s like the opposite of florence welch omg

@mollytucker766 3 жыл бұрын

and they’re both so beautiful :)

@oddmnemosyne2869 3 жыл бұрын

Head voice. My voice when speaking is that mid-lower register like Phoebe's but if I sing in my head voice it's quite high and soft (but kinda twee, my head voice is no where near this pretty.) If I sing from my chest the tone is closer to my speaking voice.

@valenciansun 3 жыл бұрын

"A haunted house with a picket fence / to float around and ghost my friends" is such a fucking good line

@Doctoresq 2 жыл бұрын

Chokes me up every time

@dudeno5811 Жыл бұрын

I don't really understand that one as English isn't my native language, mind explaining it to me?

@potentiallygone Жыл бұрын

@@dudeno5811 usually a picket fence is used to signify a like "ideal life" because it's whats most common to see in a middle class suburban house so "a haunted house with a picket fence" is an oxymoron to show phoebe was okay with the end of the world, almost like death is ideal in her mind. for the second part everything is pretty much forward but ghost is used as slang, when used as slang it means to kinda avoid someone until they stop contacting you.

@robf1557 2 ай бұрын

best line on the album

@rociiiiiiioo 3 жыл бұрын

all hail our emo mother

@kxngbazzlemusiq4608 3 жыл бұрын

🙏kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zq6aiNyf3NPWgmQ.html

@ianhh23 3 жыл бұрын

I hope she makes a skramz band

@adamreginald7673 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve cried way too many times to “Punisher”, Phoebe made a classic

@adamreginald7673 3 жыл бұрын

@Nautica Gibson ?

@all4uuuu 3 жыл бұрын

@Nautica Gibson ahhhh you maddddd

@lillokee5105 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/acqbqLmDrbqlnmw.html.

@kxngbazzlemusiq4608 3 жыл бұрын

🙏kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zq6aiNyf3NPWgmQ.html

@frncscbrqz 3 жыл бұрын

@Nautica Gibson omg shut up 🙈🤩

@carolynpriebe5715 3 жыл бұрын

there's literally a story and so much thought behind every lyric. how is this woman on this same earth with us

@gloriafloyd4323 3 жыл бұрын

IKR it is so beautiful

@phoenixryan1589 3 жыл бұрын

dude every SINGLE song is a whole story

@andypagano6545 3 жыл бұрын

You are your own planet. Do something amazing too. What are you waiting for?

@stephaniejackson9488 2 жыл бұрын

I now understand what people mean when they say you don’t deserve to breathe the same air cause ?????

@mangakatanaka3067 2 жыл бұрын

no there isn't she is just speaking about the biblical end of the world wake up stop being a zombie. the aliens are the fallen angels/demons.

@violettefurton6601 3 жыл бұрын

don't know how intentional this was, but I love the imagery of the swing set followed by "I'm always pushing you away from me, but you come back with gravity"

@dhanishta1451 3 жыл бұрын

Shittttt good one...

@hayleyb467 3 жыл бұрын

brilliant

@claudia-vw4ld 3 жыл бұрын

you really think Phoebe is that dumb not to do it intentional? 😐

@hayleyb467 3 жыл бұрын

@@claudia-vw4ld rawr

@ruth5460 3 жыл бұрын

Damn that's such a good observation

@lalfakzualahnamte2021 3 жыл бұрын

Fleetwood Mac : breakup, hate each other, wrote diss tracks about each other Phoebe and Marshall Vore : breakup, still cool with each other, write sad songs together

@mattwagner73 3 жыл бұрын

It’s Marshall Vore btw

@lalfakzualahnamte2021 3 жыл бұрын

@@mattwagner73 omg hahaha.. i didnt realize what i typed lol..edited

@rebe6132 3 жыл бұрын

and both slap

@bobpecker2156 3 жыл бұрын

how does she have such a deep speaking voice and such a high angelic singing voice how does that work

@austintrousdale2397 3 жыл бұрын

Lol, never thought of Stevie, Lindsey, Mick, John and Christine singing or playing on "diss tracks," but hey, why not?

@stormfischerr 3 жыл бұрын

I just realized I’ve never heard Phoebe’s speaking voice and that is literally what I want my voice to sound like

@hettievandyke6364 3 жыл бұрын

i wish i had a deeper voice

@adekiz 3 жыл бұрын

my voice is like that, but sometimes i get made fun of for it by online friends 😔

@Em-gj2sg 2 жыл бұрын

This is what I want my voice to not sound like

@peptobismolveins 2 жыл бұрын

@@Em-gj2sg lol same, but with phoebe it clicks.

@GenF91 2 жыл бұрын

My voice is deep but I sound like a little boy when I speak. I wish I had Phoebe’s voice.

@alexjames2685 3 жыл бұрын

This is my best friend y’all, she just doesn’t know it

@madisyngifford3507 3 жыл бұрын

I FELT this

@daryo6999 3 жыл бұрын

OMG we have a friend in common

@LuciusGeronimo 3 жыл бұрын

Same lmao

@jacobmacdonald223 3 жыл бұрын

yu9b are

@kylier1973 3 жыл бұрын

nice pfp lowkey tho

@abookdreamer2809 3 жыл бұрын

Why did it take genius so long to invite phoebe on here smh

@fluebethers9617 3 жыл бұрын

SERIOUSLY

@chrispysthename 3 жыл бұрын

They’re too busy cashing in on memes.

@blchz0607 3 жыл бұрын

Im your 999 like

@susie8799 Жыл бұрын

I interpreted this song a completely different way than she intended and I think that’s what’s beautiful about music

@tom-qe4cz 3 жыл бұрын

she really is the moment

@icedtimmy4663 3 жыл бұрын

heyyyyy sunwoo!!

@tom-qe4cz 3 жыл бұрын

@@icedtimmy4663 OMG hi!

@BEBEiiCR4Zii 3 жыл бұрын

sunwoo

@landa604 3 жыл бұрын

tbz and phoebe? u have taste

@tom-qe4cz 3 жыл бұрын

@@landa604 omg thank you!

@brokengirlsrus 2 жыл бұрын

I saw somewhere that Phoebe Bridgers is Taylor Swift for the girls who have crumbs in their bed and I feel that in the depths of my soul

@BearAwesome 3 жыл бұрын

I always thought the "3 clicks and I'm home" was a Wizard of Oz reference

@parisaha 3 жыл бұрын

Especially with the additional references to tornadoes, it kinda reinforced that idea for me, too

@oriol7339 3 жыл бұрын

I think that the Wizard of Oz reference is so obvious that she preferred to focus on other details about the lyrics. She says "3 clicks and I'm home", "There's no place like (home) my room", and "I'm not gonna go down with my hometown in a tornado".

@frankalbin8547 3 жыл бұрын

Clicks are kilometers when I was in the army.

@heyitskel2225 3 жыл бұрын

My dumbass thought three clicks was the number of clicks she need to call an uber 💀💀

@MRAAng-on2jg 3 жыл бұрын

Thought the same thing!

@MAXIMUS-yk5vs Жыл бұрын

“Romanticize a quiet life There’s no place like my room” FAVORITE LYRIC

@gingerrubin8524 3 жыл бұрын

hello fellow sapphics with anxiety

@fern6998 3 жыл бұрын

i can’t believe we’re all here

@ceciliaaaaaa6918 3 жыл бұрын

heyyyy

@elyssofea378 3 жыл бұрын

HELPPPP

@hettievandyke6364 3 жыл бұрын

hi it’s nice to meet u

@dayvancowboy 3 жыл бұрын

@ScotchDoggo 3 жыл бұрын

Cool... I actually just deadass cried to this album last night. I teared to the other songs, but it was honestly this song that broke me into an uncontrollable mess. It still hurts, but thanks for helping me cope with a loss

@lillokee5105 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/acqbqLmDrbqlnmw.html.

@sukanya3216 3 жыл бұрын

i hope you're feeling better now

@alan-kn4sq 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear about your loss, hope you’re well

@funmisoroye4510 3 жыл бұрын

She mentioned parents and immediately got too real for me

@camtheunicorn592 3 жыл бұрын

Phoebe saying "Fuck Toby Keith" is everything I needed

@princejuno5998 3 жыл бұрын

i am in love with this woman

@peribow8145 3 жыл бұрын

As i have said before, punisher is a roadtrip album

@cliogoodwin2066 3 жыл бұрын

i listened to it on a road trip and let me tell you that is absolutely true, especially listening to i know the end on the 5 freeway that was pretty meta

@peribow8145 3 жыл бұрын

@@cliogoodwin2066 !!!!! A fellow intellectual thank u!!! Its such an insane feeling listening to I know the end on a roadtrip

@malikaangel8063 3 жыл бұрын

i drove 3 and a half hours away and i only listened to punisher

@peribow8145 3 жыл бұрын

Mm yes that is one of the best things on earth

@DeniseSantos-qe5ee 3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@katja3260 3 жыл бұрын

This is my favorite song on the album. 10/10 masterpiece.

@cameroncorp 3 жыл бұрын

SOTY IMO

@willkhanna4525 3 жыл бұрын

You can't rate perfections :)

@BrokenGodEnt 3 жыл бұрын

@OneSilentGiant Savior Complex and I Know the End are amazing.

@igyl2867 3 жыл бұрын

100% song of the year yea

@ela-cu8bw 3 жыл бұрын

when she said America first rap country song for some reason old town road popped into my head

@DeniseSantos-qe5ee 3 жыл бұрын

Same kkkkkk

@andypagano6545 3 жыл бұрын

i was thinking Big and Rich Save a Horse Ride a Cowboy

@jacob5989 3 жыл бұрын

This..this comment...this song always reminds me of this damn comment

@helen4876 2 жыл бұрын

SAME 😭

@user-op4ue9cc5v 3 жыл бұрын

goodness i'm used to verified breaking down metaphors, not building an even more poetic background to the lyrics lol

@meghansmith7132 3 жыл бұрын

literally though, like she's got a whole movie plot going on in the background of this song and each line is its own mini-story. craziness

@bloopdebloop 3 жыл бұрын

she needs to do one on every song.

@crazybabuskaman3923 Жыл бұрын

No bc fr I’m too slow and lazy to really get in there and understand the lyrics, they still sound amazing tho.

@ananyasahay 8 ай бұрын

@@crazybabuskaman3923genius website helps a lot haha

@chillarypuff 4 ай бұрын

YES

@pilargonzalez4562 3 жыл бұрын

i can't believe this woman is a real person

@exesdoesvideos7513 3 жыл бұрын

this is the same show that interviewed the floss kid

@meghansmith7132 3 жыл бұрын

this song really hits some deep, inner part of my psyche like. every time I hear it I start crying. I truly don't understand how she can do that she is sooooooo talented. how does it feel like she's speaking to me personally even though she's talking about something so incredibly specific to herself???

@hayleyb467 3 жыл бұрын

same♡ i just weep lol

@riverlari 3 жыл бұрын

I knowww! And not just that, most of the time i don't feel like she's speaking to me, i feel like i'm speaking to myself? Like i just never knew the words and the wrote it and handed my own feelings back to me. Haven't had another artist (other than Mitski) do that to me in an incredibly long time

@hayleyb467 3 жыл бұрын

@@riverlari well said♡

@samanthak.2706 3 жыл бұрын

the beauty of music. it's both personal and universal.

@reneecwalker 3 жыл бұрын

Same! This song makes me weep every time, brings up this deep emotion from down in my stomach.

@calebkeithley 3 жыл бұрын

the way she so flawlessly stayed in key a capella is so impressive

@pamellaschimalesky6402 2 жыл бұрын

I have “I know the end” tattooed on my body because this song is the only one that makes me want to start again and do not give up. Thank you Phoebe, I really love u and all you have done to me with your music

@imogenbarham5729 Жыл бұрын

I have “let the ultraviolet cover me up”!

@sylviadieken8938 3 жыл бұрын

I always imagine this song as a sort of dystopian wizard of oz

@corlovell4297 3 жыл бұрын

i once pulled an all-nighter so i could watch the sunrise and i sat out on my roof as the sun was coming up BLARING this song in my headphones. it was like a chilly ass morning in june and i was just watching the world waking up, listening to a song about it ending. different plane of existence on GOD

@actuallynathalie4650 5 ай бұрын

I can only imagine

@doc8186 3 жыл бұрын

I always interpreted "A slaughterhouse / An outlet mall / Slot machines / Fear of God" to be listing off twisted American values

@lrrowley 3 жыл бұрын

Same. Especially right after the lyric about the America First rap country song

@truttret7681 2 жыл бұрын

Is fear of God a twisted value?

@NoName-mi7bd 2 жыл бұрын

@@truttret7681 yes

@coastervelocity3899 2 жыл бұрын

@@truttret7681 It depends

@GraphicEncounter 2 жыл бұрын

@@truttret7681 i think the point is more that so much of american culture/american values are directly contradictory. christians, especially in america, boast a fear of god, yet so much of our culture is a rotten bastardization of the very values christianity champions.

@aricaaaa444 3 жыл бұрын

seriously the best song writer in a while

@max_mittler 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy shes famous and taking over the music scene. She is so sincere and important. She's my emotional and creative role model

@knavara7375 3 жыл бұрын

this song 1000% sounds like the end of the world in a way that makes me want it to be the end of the world

@hannahjoycheng 3 жыл бұрын

not me listening to the first verse and pretending i'm a singer and hate being on tour too

@torstenatterberg5788 3 жыл бұрын

Phoebe stans EATING

@twoeighteen4795 3 жыл бұрын

literally an icon, Punisher is a classic

@lemonbie9308 2 жыл бұрын

Her music is the perfect equivalent of autophobia and liminality. I swear she perfectly captures the feeling of loneliness especially in this song when she talks about the end of the world. Honestly I'm so dissociated that I don't feel much fear anymore but her music makes me feel fear for loneliness again. I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing but it's good to feel something again.

@StephanieHasNoFriend 3 жыл бұрын

“the end is here” me: the world is ending 😈😈😈 phoebe: its the end of the album🥰

@mangakatanaka3067 2 жыл бұрын

no it's literally ending the song is about the biblical end of the world. the aliens are the fallen angels and demons.

@mangakatanaka3067 2 жыл бұрын

no she is singing about the biblical end of the world wake up stop being a zombie. she has satanic handlers who made the lyrics for her.

@ethangalvan400 3 ай бұрын

Bruh me too 😂

@CandiceLikes 2 жыл бұрын

shes from my hometown of Pasadena! i saw her play when she was younger in a coffeeshop in south Pas a LONG time ago. so happy to see her success. she really deserves it

@axd0045 2 жыл бұрын

I interpreted the first verse in a really weird way. I was thinking about the whole Germany Texas thing, and the line “3 clicks and I’m home” reminded me of going on Google maps in my room, envisioning all the places I’d never been to and seeing them online rather than in actual life.

@marcotedesco8954 3 жыл бұрын

I've cried to this song so many times, it was sort of an emotional guidance for me in a particularly intense period (of the kind that makes you feel alive though, so it's all good). Somehow hearing mundane details about the origin of some lines made it even more poetic.

@melissamireles9451 3 жыл бұрын

she really did something with this record

@mundaneamazing 2 жыл бұрын

Kinda cracks me up how literal her songwriting process is..

@fluorescentheights6771 3 жыл бұрын

love this woman with my entire existence

@ananyadutta1154 Жыл бұрын

Her words "How you hate certain things about being on tour, and you hate it when you come home also" touched me somewhere painfully.

@tthoreson664 2 жыл бұрын

This song grew and grew and grew on me until I became fully a Phoebe Bridgers fan and started looking up all her stuff. Lovely music, lovely soul. Hope she keeps it up!

@hannahott9185 3 жыл бұрын

The best thing about some music is that it can mean so many things to so many different people...especially Phoebe's music, because it is so interpertive. I think that the ability to make people feel like a song is written just for them is something really special and beautiful. She is truly a gifted human.

@Aqtalni 3 жыл бұрын

She sounds older than she looks which I love

@DaughterOfChrist1997 3 жыл бұрын

mature queen

@ikissedcupiid 3 жыл бұрын

i love this woman with the entirety of my heart

@ssg2689 3 жыл бұрын

did anyone else come watch this *while* listening to Phoebe's music lmao

@loveovertakingme 3 жыл бұрын

@OneSilentGiant i love that like every phoebe fan is also a mitski stan

@joaovitorkoproski6312 3 жыл бұрын

came from the ASMR vid she did

@DaughterOfChrist1997 3 жыл бұрын

@OneSilentGiant WOWZA thank u :)

@fletcher447 3 жыл бұрын

she is so special. she actually owns my heart !! underrated queen

@kellynoble7125 3 жыл бұрын

She is everything

@ImrdIstt.SH. 2 жыл бұрын

man I wish she'd gone more into "a slaughterhouse, an outlet mall, slot machines, fear of God". I'm really curious to know what those lyrics mean to her

@lorrainelovesalpacas 2 жыл бұрын

From my understanding it’s stuff you literally see driving on the 5 freeway

@sofiaguerrero0969 2 жыл бұрын

That’s the line that I was most curious about too

@gabrielaaustin7797 Жыл бұрын

LITERALLY

@stahpjenny Жыл бұрын

To me she's spurting out random stuff that affects people in their daily life (pre-apocalypse), and now that the end is happening, you see them being eaten away by the apocalypse. Suddenly, they don't matter anymore.

@eth4n3 Жыл бұрын

i think shes singing about things she sees while driving down the highway/freeway. it ties in with "the billboard said the end is near" and how she drove away from the end of the world until she couldnt anymore idk

@giorgiagiunco413 3 жыл бұрын

this song is one of the best song i’ve heard in my life, everytime i listen to it i can’t help but cry like a baby

@dawnfyre3337 3 жыл бұрын

I've been obsessed with the entire record and especially this song for 2 weeks now.

@AllyS2001 3 жыл бұрын

This is my favorite song rn I cannot get enough of the feeling it gives me.

@ewelllle 3 жыл бұрын

Greatest song of all time on a perfect album

@saraaad9764 2 жыл бұрын

this song has affected me more than i can ever explain. oh my god. im getting a tattoo for this song soon too. i love phoebe.

@daniaguzman3473 2 жыл бұрын

she’s so comforting it’s scary

@person9305 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve played this song way too many times

@MsIzzy786 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying I'm not crying

@sunshineramirez7766 2 жыл бұрын

First time I listened to this song it triggered a two day mental spiral and several anxiety attacks and I’d still give my liver to hear it for the first time again

@musikusmaximus 3 жыл бұрын

What a move to publish this video on election eve. Let's hope for the best!

@ilonaguillaume1728 3 жыл бұрын

was thinking the same thing !!!!

@frncscbrqz 3 жыл бұрын

that awkward moment when Genius interviews real artists 😳

@kogut5851 3 жыл бұрын

kinda cringe claiming that because you don’t like someone’s music that means they aren’t artists. I love Phoebe but this is an awful take.

@wig99 3 жыл бұрын

@@kogut5851 i mean,, if you wanna consider the likes of gabbie hanna, queen naija, flight, and so many others that genius have interviewed as actual artists then that’s on you lmao. there’s a difference between a bunch of youtubers who THINK they can sing VS actual artists with real talent.

@kogut5851 3 жыл бұрын

@@wig99 And do those people comprise a majority of their interviews? No.

@BrokenGodEnt 3 жыл бұрын

@@kogut5851 Genius doesn't care about the artists they get as long as they're popular. If I released a song tomorrow that became the biggest song in the world they'd ask me to be on. The complaint isn't really "they always interview shitty musicians, glad there's finally a good one!", its moreso "they don't/rarely give musicians who aren't mainstream the time of day, because they don't get as many clicks." Which is a valid complaint imo. It's understandable to try to get as many clicks as possible. That's what keeps the bills paid. But they really don't let the light shine on smaller artists that often and it's a real big shame.

@clam6254 3 жыл бұрын

@@kogut5851 it may have been a joke but what do i know

@nicematerial 3 жыл бұрын

A real singer doing this series is electrifying. You're looking at one of the most important artists in a long time.

@francyy-ug1qr 3 жыл бұрын

I go back to this regularly because I’m so impressed by the amount of things, stories and messages in this song

@jayramirez866 3 жыл бұрын

man i thought the rap country song was old town road 😭

@hann4h3 2 жыл бұрын

watching this while she's on tour rn, and after i went to one of her shows. love u phoebe

@spartangmoney 3 жыл бұрын

This album is such a mood for the times we’re in

@Flowertot 3 жыл бұрын

The screaming at the end is immaculate

@DrewBernstein 3 жыл бұрын

Whats funny is that in smoke signals i always actually imagined seagulls not pelicans lol

@nidjiunanatshi 3 жыл бұрын

Our girl is finally out in the light. I'm so happy.

@hium8716 2 жыл бұрын

I love to listen to this song while I'm traveling. it's calming, bringing up my home sickness, and makes feel nice as i look out the window and reminisce about home

@no1toyou 3 жыл бұрын

just wanna say thank you Phoebe for all you do. you’ve been contributing so much. i see you and appreciate you for fundraising. you’ve provided more emotional support personally than i could put into words 💌

@emiliocontreras7407 2 жыл бұрын

I love both her voices. She's just a poet

@madisyngifford3507 3 жыл бұрын

Pheobe, you never fail to give me goosebumps.

@Kebabtits 2 жыл бұрын

I love how she sways when shes singing

@notsilvi 3 жыл бұрын

this song... i can't even describe how it makes me feel i can't i can't

@alejandrocote9583 2 жыл бұрын

This is one of the best and deeply felt songs i have ever heard in my life. Amazing! Thank you

@mi3lla 2 жыл бұрын

this album is my biggest obsession

@lise1637 3 жыл бұрын

this is my favorite song to cry to. thank u phoebe

@jameshulme651 3 жыл бұрын

i love you phobia bridge

@rei2515 3 жыл бұрын

LOL I like how this came out on US Election Day. Genius, you ain’t slick,,

@katerpillar11 3 жыл бұрын

I love when genius interviews actually talented artists😍 & when the artist actually provides insight into the real meaning of the lyrics because they actually have depth😍😍😍

@imnotsasya 3 жыл бұрын

heck yeah phoebe bridgers supremacy ✨

@kolyas1761 3 жыл бұрын

shes everything 🥺🥺🥺

@quaweds Жыл бұрын

I thought this was way more about a breaking up with someone you were deeply in love with and you're trying to salvage the relationship, but you know it's the end.

@TravisEatWorld 2 жыл бұрын

It's wild that she didn't mention any of the Wizard of Oz allusions in the lyrics. There's clearly a lot to talk about! It was cool to hear the less apparent details unpacked.