Genshin Coop Tier List

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Zajef Daily

Zajef Daily

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Tier List if they make raid
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0:00 Disclaimer
1:50 Xianyun
4:58 Jean
7:11 Sayu
8:49 Noelle
11:20 Barbara
12:26 Bennett
13:17 Qiqi
14:04 Diona
15:24 Kuki
16:33 Dori
19:23 Zhongli
19:59 Xinyan
20:56 Kokomi
21:59 Thoma
22:27 Yanfei
23:03 Layla
27:04 YaoYao
28:00 Dehya
30:25 Baizhu
35:04 Mika, Charlotte
43:26 Chevreuse
44:37 Alhaitham
45:31 Fischl
46:01 Alhaitham
48:24 Nahida
49:34 Tighnari, Colley, Kaveh
51:38 Ningguang, Albedo, Gorou, Itto, Yunjin, Chiori, Navia
1:00:40 Lynette, Venti, Sucrose, Heizou,
1:04:00 Faruzan, Xiao, Wanderer
1:07:41 Klee, Lyney, Yanfei, Diluc, Hutao, Gaming
1:12:41 Chevreuse, Xiangling, Yoimiya
1:14:20 Lisa, Sara, Razor
1:16:00 Raiden, Beidou, Yae
1:18:00 Keqing, Cyno
1:19:54 Freminet, Kaeya, Chongyun, Rosaria
1:21:48 Shenhe, Ganyu, Ayaka, Wriothsley
1:24:57 Nilou
1:27:17 Mona, Xingqiu, Yelan, Candace
1:29:33 Ayato, Childe, Furina
1:31:44 Neuvillette
1:32:48 Arlecchino
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@gullugadha
@gullugadha 2 ай бұрын
Hoyo should really pay more attention to co-op at this point, all we get is the occasional random forced co-op events which makes some people who hate co-op even more mad.
@blacksuitedsonic
@blacksuitedsonic 2 ай бұрын
The game is not made for coop. its fine occasionally but the characters are not complex enough for it to be any fun longterm. If they make permanent coop make it completely optional with no added rewards
@shadowstorm9363
@shadowstorm9363 2 ай бұрын
it could be thrilling to have dungeons or raids, it will be really really cool, they could do it so that there are 4 players and each can chose 2 characters or so, and so there are a total of 8 characters and none of them can be same
@loversslayer
@loversslayer 2 ай бұрын
It actually makes me sad, cuase I would love to play coop. But, rn you will never see coop game where players are trying to play as a team, rather 3-4 carries and constantly fighting each other cause everyone wants to pick their Neuvilette and Hu Tao
@ashenzenden
@ashenzenden 2 ай бұрын
we'll never get coop content and thats a good thing. It's much better they just use all their resources to make single player better cuz barely anyone plays coop.
@EngelAguilar
@EngelAguilar 2 ай бұрын
@@ashenzenden exactly! coop sucks, nothing good comes from it in a game that is designed to play solo with rotations
@neilgondra7379
@neilgondra7379 2 ай бұрын
Layla is still the funniest character in Co-op, tap your skill then go to sleep and let them do the work lol.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
She's also useful for the Wanderer weekly boss. Her burst bullets hit the floating things. So she's fun to use there, since her lack of damage doesn't matter in that fight. Just be sure to have your burst available when it is time to take down those 3 floaty things.
@ferend4038
@ferend4038 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, once I just afked whole game on Layla with friends LoL
@hedgehugs
@hedgehugs 2 ай бұрын
This was funny at first but now when I see it happen (especially in Boss domains) I just leave. Even worse if they don't have her constellation that actually has her giving shields lmao.
@SpykerCorporation
@SpykerCorporation 2 ай бұрын
Man, you're sleeping on that physical dmg I guess
@mangosday
@mangosday 2 ай бұрын
I have fav on her so my Layla's always swinging
@kyoroth8580
@kyoroth8580 2 ай бұрын
Zajef clearly has no experience with Furina in co-op. Co-op Furina is probably the best healer since you have a mega large aoe with very high healing that is not tied to your elemental burst and she can give a massive dmg% buff on top. If you play Furina well, you will just swap to her healing form for 1-2 seconds at a time so you are still doing dmg and applying hydro 90+% of the time.
@kapeecoffee
@kapeecoffee 2 ай бұрын
Yea he did not cook with this tier list 😂
@pr0ntab
@pr0ntab 2 ай бұрын
I get what he was saying though he's thinking about hypothetical future coop content that's a real threat and it's difficult for Furina to heal back the damage her own adds do to the team without significant hydro app downtime and so having a second source of healing frees up pressure from stance switching as much plus nets you fanfare stacks fast (again assuming she's c0)
@kapeecoffee
@kapeecoffee 2 ай бұрын
@@pr0ntab furina heals like what 4k per tick with 100% uptime + damage buff + her own damage when everyone doesn't need heals. She is the definition of S+ support
@flamezforthegamez1056
@flamezforthegamez1056 2 ай бұрын
@@pr0ntab Furina would still be better than several of the other options. Jean's NA chance healing wouldn't keep up and her emergency nuke healing is on 20s CD which you'd pray your co-op allies can survive long enough for. Despite the nerf to hydro app Furina may suffer in a more challenging co-op, she will still provide 75% dmg buff. All the damage taken still contributes Fanfare stacks, which is then recovered for more. So many other healers are in a compressed circle which is terrible against any group of enemies as they will disperse, so will you co-op team as they tackle enemies accordingly. There are also bosses that move around too much to have to depend on circular area healing. Take the sea unicorn or the ruin serpent for example. The Maguu Kenki moves around a lot too. You want a healer that people can depend on without having to run back into a specific area to heal. Furina's providing dmg bonuses at the minimum, but can also alternate between damage and healing. You can heal the team while a boss is changing phases or in between waves of enemies and change to attack mode when everyone has a healthy amount of Hp back.
@Shiiwata
@Shiiwata 2 ай бұрын
almost every furina main i have played with in co-op forgets to heal. i feel like majority of them still don't understand how her kit works.
@Dafydd4
@Dafydd4 2 ай бұрын
Furina is amazing in coop domains cause you can keep her on damage mode when fighting and then switch to healing when everyone's collecting rewards, so instead of having someone play a healer and do no damage you can do both, aswell as buff.
@blubblubblup
@blubblubblup 2 ай бұрын
you can also stance swap spam to get more crabaletta hits and a few heals in between
@ImagineCats9339
@ImagineCats9339 2 ай бұрын
Yes I always pick Furina when no one picks a healer lol she is really good as a hybrid unite in co-op, she can deal good dmg and buff the whole team , Her healing is solid and she only needs few sec to full heal everyone
@VillieJoeGorra
@VillieJoeGorra 2 ай бұрын
She also has hydro application and arkhe hit in her NA which isn’t consistent but still pretty cool
@DefinitelyNotAFerret
@DefinitelyNotAFerret 2 ай бұрын
The issue with Furina is mostly with lower AR players who seemingly have no clue when to heal and when to do dmg imo
@annedray2506
@annedray2506 2 ай бұрын
“If you’re using Furina as a healer, she is worse than basically every other character.” Is the worst take I have ever heard from Zajef She has a party wide, long range, strong heal with 100% uptime and a 75% damage buff. You can also stance change at will so you are dealing damage most of the time and healing only when necessary. Does he think she only heals single target and can only stance change out of combat or something?
@shrimpflavoredchips9122
@shrimpflavoredchips9122 2 ай бұрын
"Theres no way you are using furina as a healer in coop" i play a lot of coop and i actually see people who refuse to use furina heal die constantly. I think hes maybe not played coop in a long time. Theres nothing more satisfying than putting down your furina heal and whole team tanking azhdaha and raiden attacks. I would say there is no bad character to bring in coop, because to me its fun to watch other people play the characters they like. I dont really get mad if the team doesnt do well either. To each their own. I get some people are there to min max, but im just chilling. Some of my favorite coop memories are when we failed a bunch with weird ass teams or playing with lower ar people.
@Yoanka
@Yoanka 2 ай бұрын
I've recently been co-oping with a newish friend to explore their Dragonspine and fight some bosses, and Furina has been a great asset there. WL5 doesn't deal so much damage that a dedicated healer feels "worth it" when I'm off on my own looking for crimson agates, but having the flexibility to also top us up or stave of sheer cold for as long as I need to is just perfect.
@kodo_meow
@kodo_meow 2 ай бұрын
counting yanfei as dedicated defensive unit but not furina is actually yap level 1000000
@wilburforce8046
@wilburforce8046 2 ай бұрын
Xingqiu gotta be better somehow
@kodo_meow
@kodo_meow 2 ай бұрын
@@wilburforce8046 😭😭
@harlastra
@harlastra 2 ай бұрын
he didn’t put kaeya and yanfei in the same category even though they both have their shields locked behind c4 so I can’t take this tier list seriously at all lol
@donnythealien4030
@donnythealien4030 2 ай бұрын
The amt of ppl who play healer Furina would surprise you. Everytime I play w a Furina it's either they play healer or change between the two stances
@eliwhite6159
@eliwhite6159 2 ай бұрын
its act p useful. esp when ur playing against an enemy that can one shot ur teammates v easily (ie the whale). id still prefer bringing a hybrid dps healer like kokomi along but furina works in a pinch
@emmanuel_40
@emmanuel_40 2 ай бұрын
@@eliwhite6159 Furina is a hybrid, you're supposed to be stance dancing a tick out periodically as needed.
@Rayhaku808
@Rayhaku808 2 ай бұрын
I've recently noticed this and it's always a very pleasant surprise. But maybe it's because I play too much FFXIV.
@eliwhite6159
@eliwhite6159 2 ай бұрын
@@emmanuel_40 what i mean is that if someone else is bringing furina id prefer me or another person bringing another healer to keep the buff stacks consistent while also keeping the team Not Dead. you can technically dance around and switch to healing but you lose furinas skill damage
@emmanuel_40
@emmanuel_40 2 ай бұрын
@@eliwhite6159 I'm hardly losing any skill damage because they attack immediately when switching to attack and I'm getting full stacks with 2 ticks on a C0 account. For my C2 Key Furina I'm getting full stacks with tick 1 and full 140% HP buff before tick 2, ~5 seconds later. If you're playing with any of the 100% self healing characters you hardly need to heal half as much thanks to the Furina passive. The point is you're still gaining 75-90% of your full skill damage as solo healer depending on your team's dodging skills.
@eszter.pdf.
@eszter.pdf. 2 ай бұрын
I used to play Kuki a lot in coop (since no one wanted to be the healer and she was my only decent option) and man, chasing people just so they don't die and them RUNNING AWAY FROM YOU is a very humbling experience
@randomperson1weekago295
@randomperson1weekago295 2 ай бұрын
Me with Jean lol
@_mako
@_mako 2 ай бұрын
tbf kuki has nothing else to do in co-op other than stay close to teammates. at the very least her circle follow her instead of being stationary. if it didnt, you wouldnt be able to heal idiot teammates no matter what you did.
@eszter.pdf.
@eszter.pdf. 2 ай бұрын
@@_mako yeah, and in smaller arenas like overworld bosses and such it works, but for example Scaramouche's 2nd phase or Azdaha have huge arenas and some people have no survival instincts, they never think "oh, I'm low hp, maybe I should find the healer", most of the time they just start running who knows where and you need to chase them to this random location within the arena and pray that in the meantime, the others don't get themselves killed lol
@Dennis-fz3om
@Dennis-fz3om 2 ай бұрын
Using Kuki in Co-op is exhausting haha.
@azureaurelia5381
@azureaurelia5381 2 ай бұрын
I really don't think Zajef plays enough co-op to make a tier list like this. Half the B tiers are top tier in coop and most the A tiers belong in B or C. Dendro isn't good in coop unless the entire team commits to it.
@HolaHola-mm8dn
@HolaHola-mm8dn 2 ай бұрын
Kuki being so high is crazy do you normal attack on her??
@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn
@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn 2 ай бұрын
Yea the ammount of people online who see a Yao Yao and Baizou and go "you know what this team needs? Pyro" is mind bogling.
@biscy03
@biscy03 2 ай бұрын
He clearly doesnt play enough co-op because the main thing about coop is that ppl play whoever tf they want to. Like, you arent gonna get a team catered to helping Alhaitham do any kind of significant damage. No, people are gonna bring Klee, Ganyu & Kazuha and you'll be dead from burning in 5 seconds. He switched up his thought process for each chara by putting charas like Alh, Xiao, Cyno (who need specific teammates & elements to function) so high while in the same breath saying Lyney should be lower cos unless he has a mono pyro team, his damage wont be significant. At least his kit isn't dependent on other teammates :')) Someone like Kazu who is in B tier here is actually great cos he will be grouping mobs every 5-7 seconds & giving you a dmg buff while someone like Xiao probably died 10seconds into the run cos he got whacked around without a healer or shielder. He then puts Chevreuse at A but Nilou in B when they are BOTH niche xD They both need overload & bloom teams specifically to even function & both dont need on field time. If anything, a crit built Nilou is great in co-op if someone brings a pyro chara cos you can vape your hits. So its just a very thoughtlessly put together tier list.
@reactiondavant-garde3391
@reactiondavant-garde3391 2 ай бұрын
@@biscy03 Thinking about, Chevreuse C6 what do in co-op?
@IiIygarden
@IiIygarden Ай бұрын
right. like noelle in co-op is easily S or at least A tier *especially* if we're assuming she's c6. whether or not the entire team is catered towards her or not she's still very good. fact is that she can heal everyone while also dealing a decent amount of damage herself. very few characters have that.
@purp1e200
@purp1e200 2 ай бұрын
"There is no way you are playing healing Furina in Coop." Tell me you've never played Furina in coop without telling me you've never played Furina Coop. Furina is basically a teamwide healer in coop. Using healing mode just a couple seconds, completely maxes out her fanfare stacks. Not to mention, she can emergency heal anyone in demand.
@grindmaster32
@grindmaster32 2 ай бұрын
Mr strimmer fake news, furina in coop is best healer lol that guy noob genshin player
@gazakana
@gazakana 2 ай бұрын
But why sacrifice furina's damage to heal when you can, you now, just put on another healer on the team and let furina stay on his creatures, and the fanfare stacks would be actually less because there aré so many characters who can heal + do something else, but not that many that can drain enough hp without furina's help, with only two characters being an exception
@hurricaneb6243
@hurricaneb6243 2 ай бұрын
​@@gazakanabecause it's coop. 9 out of 10 times, randos won't build the team around your perfectly built Furina, and proceed to pick a dps geo, anemo, and Dendro character. You have a choice of picking another character, but these pieces of shyt screwed you over, so you still play Furina... Which is bad for the team because you'll end up killing everyone. So that's how you get healer Furina.
@damselettefan
@damselettefan 2 ай бұрын
@@gazakanayou just charge attack whenever your teammates are at around 60% or less hp, and then charge attack again after like 2 seconds
@purp1e200
@purp1e200 2 ай бұрын
@@gazakana You don't sacrifice anything. The healing takes about 2-3 seconds and You get max fanfare stacks very easiliy. Her healing is so strong in coop that the amount of dmg you could do in that 2-3 second window is insignificant compared to the fanfare stacks you can gain by using the healing mode. This way, you don't need to use a healer for Furina on the team and you can use another dps instead and do even more dmg.
@AevyCh
@AevyCh 2 ай бұрын
58:35 Yunjin's quota is 30 per character. So it's 120 stacks in total (even in Single Player).
@infine-8222
@infine-8222 2 ай бұрын
With Xianyun in practice it's not that everybody is trying to plunge and waste stacks, it's that nobody is plunging 9 times out of 10. If someone sees Xianyun and switches to a plunge friendly character, you can be 95% sure they will actually be the one to fully utilize her. She's also an actually better coop healer than Jean exactly because she is less burst. Because if you are having an actual idiot, the problem is not the panic heal. It's the 20s Jean CD, and the idiot dies between bursts. Birb healing is drawn out so can somewhat sustain between ult casts.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
She's about equal to Jean, and neither is stellar. Her healing radius is small, and that's a big issue in co-op. Also, Jean is not burst dependent, as her normal attacks proc heals 50% of the time. Jean's issue is more that she doesn't raise the team's damage as much as, say, a hydro healer typically does. And while Xianyun does boost damage more than Jean if you get a plunger, you're better off with both players picking better characters.
@infine-8222
@infine-8222 2 ай бұрын
@@Axterix13 At least she carries her heal with her unlike Jean. Jean NA healing might as well not exist really. >Jean's issue is more that she doesn't raise the team's damage as much as, say, a hydro healer typically does Which hydro healer raises team damage besides Furina? A big advantage of Xianyun/Jean is you aren't going to see anyone else on VV. The only other anemo characters in co-op you are going to see are Scara and Xiao, and you can be sure they don't VV. Kazuha happens once in a blue moon. Faru is even rarer (I also think C6 Faru should be rated higher because she's not just a good buffer. She deals MASSIVE personal damage when you can actually build her full DPS).
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
@@infine-8222 Kaz is probably the anemo you see the most. Or at least the one I see the most. Though I do see him a bit less than I used to, probably because the ones that used to bring him are the same meta types that are using Neuv now. As to which hydro healer raises the damage, both. Not in terms of buffing DMG, but through hydro application. Which gets you supercharged, vaporize, and bloom (and potentially hyperbloom). All the best damage dealing reactions, basically. Of course, this has lost value with all the Neuvs in co-op these days.
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 2 ай бұрын
ppl either want to have fun and plunge every now and then or they literally dont want to ruin their "amazing" co op rotations by using plunges or they just dont know they can use your buff lol
@volodyan7780
@volodyan7780 2 ай бұрын
Jean burst ticks after cast become teamwide in coop. Jean can heal w/o burst by just attacking. Standart 5* here are c2 so jean have 15% atk speed and move speed buff with 100% uptime
@Boutneus12
@Boutneus12 2 ай бұрын
Bennet 100% is not S tier for coop. Having to run to his burst to heal, not knowing if they c6 their bennet, getting 1 shotted by enemies because he applies pyro on u
@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn
@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn 2 ай бұрын
Exactly, how he rates him in S but Furina lower who does more damage, better healing and more damage bonus buffs is beyond me. You can see he has no experiejce with Co Op.
@phoenixlau
@phoenixlau 2 ай бұрын
Immediately apparent that Zajef has never played co-op in his life. Long range unconditional healers (Baizhu, Furina) are god tier due to a lot of boss fights spreading out your team and/or constantly running away, making heal on hit / particle gen dicey. e.g. Mecha-Wanderer, Apep, Fontaine Whale. Same reason Kuki is absolute dogwater, because you're going to be malding trying to find a teammate to get close to. Zhongli is also really nice specifically in domains like Blizzard with annoying petrifiable enemies like one-shot lawachurl. Keep spamming meatball and they never even get to attack.
@juggernaut6666
@juggernaut6666 2 ай бұрын
Feel like he was too harsh on qiqi. In co op shes pretty incredible. You just slap on a clam set with a sacrificial sword. She will do alright damage more than enough for co op. Her c1 helps her energy alot.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
You'll notice he says "feel" and such a lot. It is pretty obvious that he has limited experience in co-op and the circumstances you see there. It's just wrong thing after wrong thing.
@damselettefan
@damselettefan 2 ай бұрын
@@Axterix13especially the furina part, her healing mode works wonders in coop
@eliwhite6159
@eliwhite6159 2 ай бұрын
i actually prefer baizhu over someone like kokomi in spread out boss content like scara. when youre not in one spot constantly, its helpful to just throw a snake and heal the whole team instead of praying for everyone to come to go to the jellyfish
@DefinitelyNotAFerret
@DefinitelyNotAFerret 2 ай бұрын
Same... there are healers for teammates who know what they're doing and healers for teammates who.... are trying their best
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
And it also depends on situations. Like you'll have certain enemies that are spread out and consequently, players will spread out as well. This makes healers like Xianyun, Benny, and Kuki less useful, while adding value to the likes of Sayu, Jean, and Baizhu. Though in fights that tend to stay bunched up, then things are different. Gotta know your domain so you can pick the right healer. Kokomi is in the middle. The JF isn't good for mobile fights, but she have her teamwide healing proc during her burst.
@gingervald8601
@gingervald8601 2 ай бұрын
Its actually a really good use for Barbara in co-op. She does full team heals on attack during her skill uptime AND has a panic heal/revive button. Her damage isn't going to get much better than Ocean Hued Clam though
@faerieinwonderland
@faerieinwonderland 2 ай бұрын
I would recommend using sacrificial fragments so you have more chances to use your skill to heal your teammates more
@surkamet1999
@surkamet1999 2 ай бұрын
​@@gingervald8601I'd even say her damage can be pretty good, especially in pyro-heavy teams that consistently allow her to vape her hits. I use 4P Clam with pieces that rolled into atk/crit for my Barbara.
@walter1824
@walter1824 2 ай бұрын
Furina heals like 4500 hp in 0.5 seconds it`s not that hard to do 2 charged attacks once in a while Instant 9k heal in 2 ticks His takes keep getting worse
@gloom9799
@gloom9799 2 ай бұрын
playing Kuki in coop is one of the most annoyingly fun experiences I've had in genshin. she is NOT healing anyone. get her out of A lmao
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
As someone who plays a lot of co-op, this tier list is off, so off. Just a lot of wrong assumptions, failing to account for what actually happens in co-op. Also shows a lack of understanding of abilities in co-op, overlooking things like the small radius in Xianyun's healing and that Barbara's C6 only triggers if she's off-field (and as I learned today, only for your own characters).
@willpickering5829
@willpickering5829 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, he said he doesn't play much co-op and it shows. He also seems to assume people are assembling optimal team comps which never really happens
@danielgs_
@danielgs_ 2 ай бұрын
Wdym by small healing radius in xianyun?
@NotSoMax
@NotSoMax 21 күн бұрын
I started playing co-op because a few of my friends started playing/replaying on an NA server and wanted to get some idea's for how i could better support them (aside from just 1 shotting stuff while they're low AR) but even with the limited co-op I've done the whole tier list felt off. IMO good co-op picks make the other players feel stronger than usual, provide some quality of life like a shield or good healing, or can basically solo carry for people who are struggling but need materials. a lot of it also assumed people are coordinating their teams which is usually not what's happening in co-op.
@willpickering5829
@willpickering5829 2 ай бұрын
I think you should have specified that this is in optimal team comps. In random coop, or even if you don’t bother coordinating with your friends, you have to think more about versatility. Characters like Dori suck because it’s unlikely your teammates brought the right characters for hyperbloom. Bennett and Kokomi are much better in general since they can just be slapped on for your healer role
@KategariYami
@KategariYami 2 ай бұрын
Nah Bennett is still a liability always. At least with C6 Dori you can just keep healing everyone and have a good day.
@willpickering5829
@willpickering5829 26 күн бұрын
@@KategariYami The only DPS hurt by Bennett are Ayaka and Eula, who still do more dmg with Bennett than with Dori. The +1200 attack makes up for it.
@ss1134
@ss1134 2 ай бұрын
Coop has so much untapped potential
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 2 ай бұрын
furinas can either be the best character your teammates use or a dumbo that cant heal shit mid battle and think her normal atks will do something more important.
@damselettefan
@damselettefan 2 ай бұрын
painfully accurate🙏
@Shiiwata
@Shiiwata 2 ай бұрын
i have the worst luck with furina mains in co-op. almost all of them forget to heal.
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 2 ай бұрын
@@Shiiwata its unironically one of the "co op minigames" I like the most lol, I dont even look at my screen I just keep looking at hp bars and charge atk to heal then go back to dmg and using my burst off cooldown cuz fav is amazing.
@shimeji_e
@shimeji_e 2 ай бұрын
Furina is literally the best co-op unit in the right hands, don't even need to bring a dedicated healer when just 2-3s of stance change full heal your whole team
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 2 ай бұрын
wdym? furina is a better sustainer than most lol, if you know how to do a charged atk everytime your team reaches close to 50% hp you basically heal everybody and also buff the whole team.
@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn
@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn 2 ай бұрын
Exactly, ive played Furina as a lone healer and no shielder and it takes less than 3 seconds to heal any non HP scaling character to max HP and it takes no effort or time to switch between forms. I dont know why he is treating her 2 forms as mutually exclusive, like you can only stay in one and cant switch like 4 times in 1 second. Yes if you stayed in her healing form alone she sucks but why would you do that? Instead of just using your brain and changing as needed with 99% of the time beeing in damage dealing mode doing insane damage and giving allies massive damage bonus. This is just a L take honestly.
@poochycosme
@poochycosme 2 ай бұрын
11:37 when you've never played on-field Barbara
@Dubstep_Gun
@Dubstep_Gun 2 ай бұрын
He lost me when he said "C6 Barbara is useful in coop" Btw he doesn't know how good is Barbara in coop.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
It's stupid that he rates her down because Kokomi exists. Barbara should be rated on what Barbara is. Kokomi's power? That should influence Kokomi's spot on the list.
@Dubstep_Gun
@Dubstep_Gun 2 ай бұрын
@@Axterix13 Specifically in coop Barbara has healing uptime, aoe and mobility advantages over Kokomi.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
@@Dubstep_Gun She doesn't have healing uptime on Kokomi. Kokomi has 100% healing uptime, as her JF has a 12s duration, which is refreshed by her burst. And during that burst, Kokomi also triggers heals on normals, same as Barbara during her E. Barbara does definitely benefit from not having something like the small radius, stationary for 20s Jellyfish, though. On the other hand, Kokomi won't get frozen/supercharged for using her E. But yeah, I think both are fine. Kokomi I think is generally better, but there are circumstances where I think Barbara has the edge. Both are solid choices, providing good healing for their teams, as well as heavy hydro application.
@mr.parker8014
@mr.parker8014 2 ай бұрын
Bro forgot you can finally use fischl a2 in co op - charged attacking triggers a blast from oz. SS tier smh my head
@alfredxsiv
@alfredxsiv 2 ай бұрын
as someone who plays a lot of coop with a Benny user... i can tell you that Benny's self pyro is such a troll. You often get one-shotted cause of it due to enemies having more damage in coop, if you also fight apep with benny... goodluck dodging cause you'd be burning yourself to death 🤣
@mattsopiratoso790
@mattsopiratoso790 2 ай бұрын
Imagine seeing this tierlist with exactly NO CONTEXT. Lmao.
@mikrikbe
@mikrikbe 2 ай бұрын
Yunjin qouta is like an Shenhe quota - it's counter is independent on each character... How did Zajef forgor...
@ferend4038
@ferend4038 2 ай бұрын
Honestly I kinda lost Zajef on faruzan placing. I actually consider her to be one of the best coop units. She has crazy amount of buffs for anemo caries and you indeed can run her on 0 er and go all in dmg stats. Mine can do up to 390k dmg in 20 secs without any buffs outside buffs(I counted in cr for average dmg)! Yeah, my faru is triplecrowned with skyward harp and crazy artifacts but what else would you give ur main lol. Imo faruzan is at least a solid A
@ajreyes1262
@ajreyes1262 2 ай бұрын
i am fighting every Furina in co op to use her healing because the weekly enemy is one shotting us because of Furina
@damselettefan
@damselettefan 2 ай бұрын
this is painfully relatable😭🙏🙏🙏🙏
@BlueEyedWe1rd0
@BlueEyedWe1rd0 2 ай бұрын
skill issue actually
@roennyh1362
@roennyh1362 2 ай бұрын
Furina is literally one of the best coop characters. Switching to her other stance for emergency healing maximizes her dmg buff in coop since the whole party gets healed. Even if you lose her personal dmg for a few seconds it’s often better than bringing in someone like Barbara/kirara/Charlotte who basically contributes no dmg.
@gonzalodiez6336
@gonzalodiez6336 2 ай бұрын
no baizhu on co op is like one of the best healers bc you can use his skill off coolown which is only 10 seconds
@zekkekeipa6521
@zekkekeipa6521 2 ай бұрын
Tho it has some delay, so sometimes your teammate might die if you dont heal them preemptively.
@eliwhite6159
@eliwhite6159 2 ай бұрын
ONE HOUR ZAJEF DAILY POST
@Rayhaku808
@Rayhaku808 2 ай бұрын
I think Zajef should play co-op then revisit this cause... man... this ain't it
@DefinitelyNotAFerret
@DefinitelyNotAFerret 2 ай бұрын
That segment about Gorou makes me realize really do need a character that has increased aggro to prevent some teammates from taking damage
@rurue-hf6nu
@rurue-hf6nu 2 ай бұрын
i don't think anyone considers what utility a character individually gains in co-op, but rather what utility said character provides to benefit the entire co-op team. zajef's pov isn't the general perspective lol. edit: me personally, kokomi would be an easy S tier here. she's healing 24/7, essentially enabling braindead gameplay for other teammates (granted you properly time her skill & burst, and have enough ER)
@cynth4941
@cynth4941 2 ай бұрын
A bunch of healers do that though. Noelle for example, Bennet has pretty good uptime, even Barbara heals on autos and will fullheal everyone on Q. I dunno why you guys simp so hard for defensive units and healers tho. Like I've been playing only coop this year, I'd say 2/3 of the time we have no healer and clear just fine, even faster. It's very very rare that someone dies. Raiden gets 1 rotated 99% of the time, domains barely take a minute, etc. The geo weekly boss is the only one that I make sure to always bring some healing, but even Neuvilette on prototype amber is more than enough, and he'll do way more damage than Kokomi and cia.
@rurue-hf6nu
@rurue-hf6nu 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@cynth4941 i don’t necessarily agree with noelle and benny, but barbara is pretty good! as for your second point, that’s very individual. i could argue that in my experiences, most co-op party members die w/o a defensive unit.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
Benny tends to be situational, because circle impact, team composition, and electro using enemies, on top of how enemies are positioned in the domain. Kokomi is good in co-op, though she does have ones where isn't very good due the the JF having a relatively small radius and being stationary. The weekly rock dragon is probably her worst fight. And damage-wise, she does pretty good in co-op, because hydro is the best element. As to the value of defensive units, it really depends on the team. I've had teams where a Neuv has demolished the place. And I've had ones with both a Neuv and a Raiden, level 90 for both of these,... and my Dehya kills faster. This should not be happening, because, while my Dehya is well built, it's Dehya. Also, worth noting that people tend to be a bit more serious for weekly bosses, or at least the more recent ones. But for other stuff, teams get sillier, people want friendship xp so using partially built characters, and so on. And it will depend on the domain. Like the cryo set one, with the big churl... that one can give people problems. Emblem can as well. Lastly, while I could trivialize most everything by bringing my Furina, if I wanted to roflstomp the place, I'd just play solo. I want variety of situations, and I do like the idea of supporting the new players, letting them be an important part of the fight. So I'll bring Qiqi rather than Furina, or maybe Dori because I feel like playing her. I'll contribute in a meaningful way, but I won't carry. And worth noting that my experience in co-op is skewed, because there's always at least one player on the team who can easily carry, if I so desire, because I'm always playing a well built/geared character while keeping the team composition and domain in mind.
@damselettefan
@damselettefan 2 ай бұрын
@@cynth4941theres quite a lot of enemies that can one shot you in bennetts circle though (especially green guy in apep during its 3rd phase and the narwhal)
@damselettefan
@damselettefan 2 ай бұрын
39:24 only 1 of the weekly bosses have physical res….
@Error403HRD
@Error403HRD 2 ай бұрын
Okay, but Baizhu is the BEST healer for teammates that suck. They don't want to stay in the circle and proceed to blame you for dying? Fine, have fun trying to blame me for your deaths while using a 50k HP Baizhu that spams the skill and burst every time it's up. I can even put him on clam or tenacity for extra usefulness in teams without dendro lol
@kairos-049
@kairos-049 2 ай бұрын
Playing co-op with friends made C2 Zhongli so worth it
@AnimationStation3000
@AnimationStation3000 2 ай бұрын
12:03 Barbara c6 can only effect your own teammates
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
Co-op players are teammates, and she can affect them. The problem is that Barbara has to be off-field for the effect to trigger.
@AnimationStation3000
@AnimationStation3000 2 ай бұрын
@@Axterix13 no, I only effects your own characters, I've tried it in 2-player co-op C6 Qiqi however can revive co-op members
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
Huh. Guess it is even worse. A silly restriction.
@kisekihikari8459
@kisekihikari8459 2 ай бұрын
Bruh I play healing Furina in Coop all the time when my team’s healer fails I keep switching between the moods
@daniellambert5772
@daniellambert5772 2 ай бұрын
Is this tierlist based on how they feel to play in coop or how good they are in coop because i feel raiden giving back energy should solely be enough of a reason to not be in C tier
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
In four player co-op, your character is always on-field, and various people are using their skills at the same time, so energy usually isn't an issue. There are exceptions, of course, like if a team has too many of the likes of Zhongli, Barbara, Qiqi, Noelle, and so on on it, characters with horrible energy generation.
@haroonafridi231
@haroonafridi231 2 күн бұрын
True i would definitely put Raiden higher She share her e with all the teammates and give them a lot of energy too And do good dmg too
@SirTrollface101
@SirTrollface101 2 ай бұрын
If only zajef played co op in domains or weekly bosses as much as he yapped in this video, then this tier list would be flipped on a lot of carries + supports
@THESocialJusticeWarrior
@THESocialJusticeWarrior 2 ай бұрын
Noelle with Fav R5 is great support for any team that needs ER and healing. Never fails me. Without Fav she needs to be fed ER. She will still do plenty of damage with fav because coop content is easy.
@krummesblech
@krummesblech 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I think Noelle should at least be in A-Tier. As a Solo Geo with Fav, her damage is still better than pure support units, has no burst cooldown and the crystal shields she creates help prevent other players from taking additional damage. She’s also pretty good with Furina in coop, since Noelle heals a lot and deals pretty good DMG with her buff even on Fav. With a good battery (second Geo or Raiden) you can also handle a more offensive weapon if you invest something in Noelle's ER, at least I have no problems there with 143% ER and Whiteblinde. Especially if you are in co-op with 3 beginners, Noelle and Fav are the safest choice to end the Donain, if every player dies then Noelle still finishes it relatively well on her own xD
@FayinKay
@FayinKay 2 ай бұрын
And she can also carry 4pc Petra to buff teammates too since she'll be the one picking up the shards.
@xelementalsupreme9308
@xelementalsupreme9308 2 ай бұрын
I think Fischl isn't nowhere near D She does everything out of Oz, and she has 100% uptime. And her damage is still pretty good, even if she's onfield all the time.
@CritsVG
@CritsVG 2 ай бұрын
Zajef just forgering to mention that Childe's passive buffs everyone else's NA Talent by +1 level Edit: Me forgering that it only applies to your own party, not others is even worse 💀
@mmmkay2457
@mmmkay2457 2 ай бұрын
That doesn’t work in co op
@CritsVG
@CritsVG 2 ай бұрын
@@mmmkay2457 Oh... Yea I just reread it and you're right, it says only your own party members. That's pretty stupid... But thanks for letting me know!
@tommyreiss5457
@tommyreiss5457 2 ай бұрын
2:45 that's the thing! in coop you can just easily change between healing and damage! its perfect so you dont need to constantly change your character depending on the needs of your friend. i was playing with a lower ar friend and he really needed healing, for example in dragonspine or the eletricity in kannazuna. and it helped SO MUCH to be able to switch between healing and damage anytime i wanted. especially because her healing is one of them best for overworld. its a full time universal healing on E that sticks to your character and doesnt force you to stay close too close to, and you can also move it anywhere before the cooldown ends.
@unknownkw
@unknownkw 2 ай бұрын
Noelle is an easy S-tier you just won't lose cause a well-built one will just solo the weekly boss or domain with no chance of dying. Her burst has 0 down time (with adequate energy recharge) and swings keep staggering the smaller but often dangerous enemies, and she is suitable to fight in all weekly bosses and domains, unlike other elements that may be inherently bad for that specific boss or domain.
@unekku8145
@unekku8145 2 ай бұрын
A lot of feelscrafting for this tier list
@ChiggnNumgets
@ChiggnNumgets 2 ай бұрын
sunfire jean against raiden weekly boss is super satisfying
@jonathanettinger3104
@jonathanettinger3104 2 ай бұрын
bow characters have plenty of other types of cancels, gorou has insane overlap on how many types of cancels he can do, but you can definitely arcc with a lot of other ones
@thergaming168
@thergaming168 2 ай бұрын
Maybe the most interesting topic recently! I got a few questions @Zajef: - do you plan on making further videos to explore team comps? Team comp tier list? - did you take into account that catalyst users can apply elements more frequently than most units? - do you plan on doing C6 5* coop video? Keep up the good work good sir, you got my upvote on this vid and have my viewership from a long time ago!
@KategariYami
@KategariYami 2 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Shinobu can't heal you in Co Op unless you get hit by her Ring? Which has a very short distance? Thus making it borderline impossible in Co-Op especially in Boss fights?
@TJF588
@TJF588 2 ай бұрын
YES, YES, YES!! Legitimately, have been waiting for one of my go-to Genshin CCs to focus on this! So many rundowns out there are in regards to solo play, often specifically for the Abyss, but I run all my domains in co-op, so I keep my eyes on which characters can give buffs, coordinated attacks, heals, and shields to everyone. Swapping to Furina's healing becomes that much more viable when everyone is on-field, whereas my mainstay Zhongli is dead weight since he's only C0; I even ask co-op partners if their Zhongli are C2, so I know whether to stay on Diona. Heck, had to actively mind to swap Kokomi from TTDS to Prototype Amber because the former's passive wouldn't be triggering.
@SouSiSlime
@SouSiSlime 2 ай бұрын
Charlotye should be in F tier. I always get distracted and start making pictures of my teammates dying
@THESocialJusticeWarrior
@THESocialJusticeWarrior 2 ай бұрын
Wish this video mattered.
@jeremyking6752
@jeremyking6752 2 ай бұрын
I do co-op domain runs pretty regularly. I also lucked out and got C2 Furina, and using virtually any other character other than Furina in co-op now makes me feel like I'm coping. I have Furina on Key of Khaj-Nisut, so that amounts to consistently buffing everyone's EM by 100+ on top of healing that ranges from 4.6k per tick on the low end all the way up to 9.6k per tick. Fanfare is typically maxed within a few seconds and often all it takes is a single healing tick. I know this list is rightfully assuming C0 limited 5 stars (and she's still amazing in co-op at C0 or C1), but it's pretty ridiculous how heavily she consolidates roles in co-op, especially with a weapon like Key equipped. I have plenty of other well-built characters and yet Furina feels like the most obvious/beneficial choice in the vast majority of teams, and it's not even close. C2+ is obviously broken, but a well-built Furina at C0-C1 is still going to wind up healing the entire team for 4-5k per tick within a large radius, all while providing a huge buff. All while not being at all limited to circle impact, which really helps in co-op. Even at C0 I'd put her in SS alongside Neuvi.
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 2 ай бұрын
venti literally being the best option for vv set domain and deepwood domain seeing this: >:( like cmon, the same way youre not gonna use noelle on co op if it isnt a mono geo team, youre not gonna use venti on a domain that you cant pull enemies.
@VortexYoutube
@VortexYoutube 2 ай бұрын
Holy, one whole hour. Thank you mr Daily🛐
@asdf_asdf948
@asdf_asdf948 2 ай бұрын
As someone who plays co-op daily, your perspective is pretty wrong. In co-op people just bring 4 dps's (also lol@ considering yanfei for her shield, no one plays yanfei as a shielder in coop they play her as budget klee). Noelle is C tier unless someone else is running any geo unit, then she becomes A-S tier depending on how invested you are. As an owner of c6 dori, she is D tier unless you are playing in a dendro team, then she is A tier, possibly S but to be honest she doesnt do anything that amazing compared to other options.
@asdf_asdf948
@asdf_asdf948 2 ай бұрын
Also as an addendum, the whole premise of the tier list is wrong. The only two tiers that matter in co-op are neuvilette tier and non-neuvi tier.
@naiRISE766
@naiRISE766 2 ай бұрын
I think you should have included the part where is Zajef assuming a "What ifs Raid-like Content" with coordinated gameplay in the beginning Mr. Daily since lots of people are assumimg uncoordinated weekly bosses/domains here.
@FPSrad
@FPSrad 2 ай бұрын
love this content, props to Zajef
@SamuelDimitrov
@SamuelDimitrov 2 ай бұрын
if you play em raiden with something like alhaitham childe baizhu or something stupid like that you can hit blooms every 0.5 secs with perfect timing because all 4 players get the off field thingy.
@wilburforce8046
@wilburforce8046 2 ай бұрын
I feel like he hasn’t played half these concepts he’s yapping about. The Furina part was all lies and the Nilou part boiled down to how fun it is to play, forgetting the fact that all four applicators working at the same time is in fact more blooms when you play it since you have zero swapping.
@satrioraffani8605
@satrioraffani8605 2 ай бұрын
venti can machine gun smoge
@gribberoni
@gribberoni 2 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THE MEAL ZAJEF DAILY
@danielgs_
@danielgs_ 2 ай бұрын
Bennet in coop is a lot of times the worst thing, they use him when there are no ATK scalers in the team, against enemies like raiden who are gonna constantly overload you dealing extra dmg and pushing you around OR you get one-shot from an enemy's melt/vape or the enemy moves around a lot of his ult becomes useless
@Restributordevill
@Restributordevill 2 ай бұрын
Genshin legitimately has amazing potential for co-op combat, so many characters would shine there. We can only hope they do actually release a co-op game mode at some point.
@Zarya.
@Zarya. 2 ай бұрын
I can say that i’m sort of a co-op connaisseur. Best healer: kokomi (xianyun because fun) Best dps: neuvilette (or any c6) Best subdps: nahida Best buffer: venti (kazuha against bosses) Also most zhonglis in coop are c2
@electromagg8958
@electromagg8958 2 ай бұрын
This is my zajeff weekly, thanks mr strimmer
@TJF588
@TJF588 2 ай бұрын
Shogun's permanent uptime, teamwide coordinated Electro attacks have gotta elevate her above C.
@haroonafridi231
@haroonafridi231 2 күн бұрын
And giving energy to all teammates too
@Mimikyu-de-Peluche
@Mimikyu-de-Peluche 2 ай бұрын
bro I play co-op cause there's nothing to do solo and I can sasy not approved tierlist in the healing department Healer Furina is goated when you build her for it, long range in healing constant healing with the deticated healing build also Bennet in things like raiden or azdaha being circle imppacted is really bad also Baizhu is an A he overheals each 9 second so basicly if your teamates are not the defenition of skill issue you are fine, Kokomi is really good when you meet the coop er requirements wich are lower, but with the f2p r5 prototype amber it's way easier, teamwide healing is so good when the range is high so mika xianyun barbara and qiqi should be atleast A tier other than that nothing else to say. anyways thats just my expirience and opinion
@sentrenade1244
@sentrenade1244 2 ай бұрын
I do wish there was a type of content that relied on co op enough that we had tcers that focused on characters mechanics with others on field
@yahia5476
@yahia5476 2 ай бұрын
Furina as a healer (in co op) is worse than basically every other character is really the worst Furina take I've seen, Furina is broken on her own but now when you can switch at will between healing and damage for whenever you need it AND the fact Crabaletta can be reset for huge nukes makes her arguably the best co op unit
@SpykerCorporation
@SpykerCorporation 2 ай бұрын
22:35 hold up right there sir' this is the "preference police" here. Imagine a world where your coop mateys take a Hydro and Dendro oriented crew? A Baizhu or a Kokomi, then other dps units of the same element. The seeds will inevitably bloom, dost thou possesses thee Nilou orn't? My only wish is for the hypergeon blooming but it's so close yet so far...
@magallanthepenguin9132
@magallanthepenguin9132 2 ай бұрын
i remember the hilichurl event a few patch back where we have to beat boss in the event and there is co op. i went nahida...my other team mates picked annemo traveler, xiao and yae miko... yae was first to die -_- then i died trying to type we needed to restart. then party wiped. also nuevillette can deal a lot of dmg and also able to heal himself. and also i used to be barbara in co op, then noelle energy recharge for healing. then i used kokomi, then i use zhongli c2(gives shield to team mates) recently i did weekly boss with my c6 itto r2 now my neuv is c3 and r1 and hope other people don't hog him on this account. most people i joined needs carrying which doing co op solo i kill things and clear things way faster alone :l i just think co op is bad and only good for collecting ascension mats from other pp's worlds if you already grabbed all the ascension mats from your world
@TJF588
@TJF588 2 ай бұрын
I've been in co-op with a Xianyun a couple/few times, and think I ended up taking all the jumps just because I recognized that was even an option, haha~
@squallleonhart1463
@squallleonhart1463 2 ай бұрын
Furina is s tier because she can heal too, she is broken as fk, take 2 roles in one
@bangerangandbalderdash
@bangerangandbalderdash 2 ай бұрын
I’ve always said the biggest issue with physical teams is that there’s no off-field physical damage dealer to capitalize on the phys res shred from superconduct and physical buffa
@KingOfMalevolence
@KingOfMalevolence 2 ай бұрын
I don't know how but every single time I pick Nahida no one picks electro or pyro, and it makes her so useless
@SemiCologne
@SemiCologne 2 ай бұрын
Tried arlecchino on coop domain she's pretty much self reliant I would recommend doing E>Q>E as it fills the ult pretty quick and for the blood debt best to just wait for the "X"to bloom then do the charge attack
@Makkushimu
@Makkushimu 2 ай бұрын
My C0 Qiqi with R5 Sac, 4pc clam, and full atk/er is infinite healing and virtually immortal in co-op
@keshy1056
@keshy1056 2 ай бұрын
doesn't noelle have an emergency shield for teammates at low hp? also, c6 faruzan with a dps VV set just straight up out-damages other anemo damage dealers if they don't have either her or c4 jean on the team.
@ZanathKariashi
@ZanathKariashi 2 ай бұрын
She has to be off-field for it to proc.
@zekkekeipa6521
@zekkekeipa6521 2 ай бұрын
Its only works on your characters.
@aaykat6078
@aaykat6078 2 ай бұрын
At this point someday Zajef Daily will just post the whole stream
@naiRISE766
@naiRISE766 2 ай бұрын
the whole stream was like 8 hours so no this cuts ALOT especially his explanations.
@georgemacdonald8667
@georgemacdonald8667 2 ай бұрын
@Zajef, you've never played Furina in coop. Her healing mode is so broken.
@igorkamanin5842
@igorkamanin5842 2 ай бұрын
If c2 Jean's buf works on co-op, than maybe we should rate her on A-tier at least.
@Lebenslangerschicksalsschatz.
@Lebenslangerschicksalsschatz. 24 күн бұрын
It works
@leoniichan1229
@leoniichan1229 2 ай бұрын
There are a few things that I don't really agree with this list. The explaining will be pretty long so bear with me Anyway this list is quite obviously only factoring domain runs, overworld is not factored in at all so I'll also be only talking about co-op combat. Because if we factor in overworld experience as well the list would be very different Usually in co-op we'd want to pick characters that has high uptime or gets benefit from being forced to stay on field. So yeah obviously most characters who are meant to stay off field most of the time, are going to be bad. That he got it correct, I'll give him that. But one thing I have to say is, some characters while are meant to stay off field, they don't necessarily get worse in co-op because they have to stay on field. Instead, it's more of a no benefit gained but no additional downside. I'll get to that after I get to the example of these type of characters. But my point for bringing this up is that, some characters while do get benefited from having 100% field time, it didn't make them better than the off field options who were strictly better than them in single player. It's like that classic dialogue from an anime: "Just because I got weaker, doesn't mean you got stronger" Also, most of the time you'd bring someone whose performance doesn't get affected by idiotic teammates, and will always do it properly at the things they are supposed to do. Better if they can also improve their teammates performance in someway (like giving buffs etc). Combined with getting extra benefit with having 100% fieldtime, you'd have your ideal co-op teammates. With that out of the way, let's finally get started (holy that was a long ass yapping) *Bennett* First of all, bennett is 100% not an S tier. Yes, now he has 100% field time for him to hit as many E as he wants, he can give atk buff and heal everyone at the same time now. But the thing is, now the circle impact downside (which was already a massive downside in single player) + self inflict pyro downside is also applied to every single person on the team. That's not even factoring in idiots who never uses the circle btw. Even if your team is using the circle, you'd have to factor in that they could just die because of self inflict pyro and they got hit by a big vaporize/melt/overload hit + your teammates may or may not want atk at all. All that while forced to staying in a relatively small circle btw. Circle impact wouldn't be that big of a deal, if it doesn't have any other downside other than being stationary. Which is obviously not the case for bennett at all. Overall he's definitely not going to be my first choice of co-op teammate at all *Jean* Jean is so heavily underrated here imo. She without a doubt is an S tier unit in co-op. Why? Because she consolidates role. 2 characters in 1 slot is very efficient. She's an anemo healer which is obviously pretty good. You get to increase teammates' dmg through vv, and heal at the same time. Not to mention she isn't entirely useless on field, because she can heal with her normal attack as well. On top of that, all of her constellations are actually better in co-op (except perhaps C4). C6 while is already a good one in single player (unlike some people think), it gets even better in co-op because now you're giving everyone 35% dmg reduction while being a healer at the same time. Even if you have to stay in a circle, since her circle doesn't have any downside (like bennett's) other than being circle impact, it's more than fine staying in it. Even if you only look at C1&2, since she has 100% fieldtime you don't care about taking too long to use her E to group enemies anymore, you also give everyone a movement & atk spd buff which is obviously pretty good. Oh and her healing doesn't require you to stay near her btw. Just don't be 10 miles away and you'll be healed. Basically, she's S tier because you can never go wrong with her *Alhaitham* Remember what I said about "just because I got weaker, doesn't mean you got stronger" earlier? Well him and nahida is exactly that. Except that while he does get better, it isn't so much to the point where he becomes better than nahida. Because nahida doesn't get weaker in co-op, like at all. The reason why you'd pick him is for dendro right? But the thing is, if you pick him you'd still have to bring nahida anyway. Since you are already bringing nahida, why would you even need him in the first place, other than idk because he happens to synergize well with her? Not to mention he's a melee character while nahida is a ranged character + he doesn't provide any form of utility that nahida couldn't (nor does he do it better than her), means that he doesn't really provide much to the team other than being dendro. Which again, you have nahida for it. So yeah, he's so overrated in this list, and it'd be better if he swap place with nahida *Raiden Shogun* While yes she is far from being good in co-op, but isn't as bad as C tier. Because while in co-op you get way more particles + everyone is on field, but there are some characters who have poor energy generation, and some just outright not generate any at all (like noelle and qiqi). Yes, you can argue and say "why not just tell the players who want to use them to pick other characters", but then there's this place called asia server, where people generally genuinely don't care about who you use, would just pick their own character and go with whoever the team is going with. So when you have teammates like that, you can either kick them as the host, or just go with it because you're not the host. In that case, while having downtime is pretty bad but it also allows her energy generation to be more useful. Plus if you really want you can just go full em so there's that. Probably a B tier to me *Sangonomiya Kokomi* You can argue me with this, but I think she deserves to be on S tier. 1, she can deal actually pretty decent dmg while at the same time being a healer, role consolidation. 2, she has high hp which means she can be the one to take aggro. 3, her hydro application is pretty respectable. So she's essentially a 2 in 1, being a dps and healer at the same time, while being a hydro one at it as well. In co-op having kokomi is extremely slot efficient. It's the same reason why I gave jean S tier, it is also why I think kokomi deserves S tier *Neuvillette* While I do think he deserves to be rated high, but not as high as this tbh. The reason you'd pick him in co-op is the exact same as it is in single player: You want a good dps, and that's it. "But he's hydro so you'd pick him if you want hydro as well!!!" Him being hydro is more of a bonus point instead of main selling point imo. You don't really pick him because he's hydro, but instead he's a good dps who happens to be hydro. If you really want hydro who does more things, he wouldn't be the first one you think of. "Bu-but, he can also carry 3 of his teammates ass!!" And? Does he provide any form of utility to his team? Don't tell me you can use prototype amber please, you'd rather bring an actual healer instead of lowering his dps in most if not all cases. The "he's the entire team" thing is just so funny to me. Like nah bro, he's 1 character in 1 slot, not 2 or 3. "He can also take aggro as well!! He has high hp remember??" Iirc this list is explicitly for C0 only right? So that advantage simply doesn't exist at all if he's C0. Because unlike kokomi who can dodge in between attacks and doesn't mind being interrupted as much, neuvillette doesn't want to get interrupted at all. "Bu-but, you can bring a shielder!!" Then what's the point of letting him taking aggro? Why not just pick idk, kokomi instead? With that much said I still think he's S tier tho. Just not an SS tier for sure *Furina de Fontaine* Speaking of SS tier unit, this is the true SS tier unit in co-op imo. You can argue with me but I'll explain. Remember how much I've emphasize on role consolidation? Well same reason for her except she's way better than that. Having her on your team is effectively having 3 characters in 1 slot, on top of that she also has a lot of freedom. Freedom of being able to switch whichever role she chooses to take. While yes she can still only be 2 at the same time instead of 3, but having the option to swap makes up with that. She has many advantages. 1, her healing E has ridiculous radius, and since she's healing 4 characters at the same time she can use this to stack fanfare instead of her gangster E. 2, she has large hp pool, and she doesn't care if she gets interrupted so she can take the aggro without caring much, and even intentionally take dmg to stack fanfare. 3, Like I said earlier she can swap in between dps&buffer role and healer&buffer role. So at the very least she'll provide 48% dmg% buff by average to the whole team by default. Plus even if swapping is too hardcore for you, you can stay on healing mode and call it a day. 4, she gets much more particles in co-op, and thanks to that she can get away with using healing E that generates 0 particles 5,being the only character with both pneuma&ousia attack that has 6 sec individual cd, gives her a unique advantage against those type of enemies. Since she can stay on field all the time, even if your pneuma/ousia attack happen to be on cd, you can just swap to another mode and use that form of pneuma/ousia attack instead So yeah, this is like the one true character that you can never go wrong with in co-op. She doesn't even care if she's against hydro immunity because she can just become a healer instead + her dmg buff is universal except for transformative reaction. Press E>ult, then you can proceed to sit down and let her enjoy her cake. She's just too good to pass up There are a few things that's worth pointing out for other characters, but since the placement for them is pretty fair so I won't talk about them. This comment is already too long as it is 😅 Anyway thank you for reading
@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn
@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn 2 ай бұрын
Exactly, ive played Furina as a lone healer and no shielder and it takes less than 3 seconds to heal any non HP scaling character to max HP and it takes no effort or time to switch between forms. I dont know why he is treating her 2 forms as mutually exclusive, like you can only stay in one and cant switch like 4 times in 1 second. Yes if you stayed in her healing form alone she sucks but why would you do that? Instead of just using your brain and changing as needed with 99% of the time beeing in damage dealing mode doing insane damage and giving allies massive damage bonus. This is just a L take honestly.
@mothynx
@mothynx Ай бұрын
I love seeing a Venti in coop when i play Yelan with low ER prioritising damage.
@limekawakami3994
@limekawakami3994 2 ай бұрын
Before Furina, i would always love Kokomi players and hate Bennet, even standing in his circle, we would always die, cuz the bosses would always target that area... ofc nowadays i dont even need a healer on most the bosses cuz of MRE and cuz i learned how to play against most the bosses, but i will always take kokomi or baizhu over bennet anytime
@TJF588
@TJF588 2 ай бұрын
Stream chat brought up Chongyun's C2, a constellation I waited over a year to get after lucksacking C1 when I started up. A field of Cryo infusion, gotta be worth some consideration, non?
@Moomoo0410
@Moomoo0410 2 ай бұрын
hyperbloom aside, using dori in co-op was an experience since you get to battery your team most of the time every after rotations because of the switching restrictions genshin co-op has due to her passive and constellations with fav great sword, it was just one time when this angsty hu tao dragged me at the end of the raiden boss where she died and told me my dori sucked hahahahaa (my fellow fischl in co-op dragged her back saying she played it poorly most of the time)
@SHAW_777
@SHAW_777 2 ай бұрын
Holy one hour 😳
@jupitermonkey5687
@jupitermonkey5687 2 ай бұрын
What's coop if not domain challenges and a lot of downtime since you're not that restricted with rotations? Furina is excellent because you get more damage than a team with a healer and while you're collecting rewards you heal everyone. Or for example in boss coop, there's always an opportunity where the boss in changing phases or being invulnerable, where you as furina can easily heal the team back to full hp. Also, Xianyun is ok but Jean is bad in coop and the reason is because of their healing cooldown. Xianyun's ult healing last longer and has 18cd whereas Jean doesn't last as long and has a 20 cd. Basically Jean has a few more seconds than Xianyun where she isn't healing and that means you have to save your healing for critical moments. Good healers in coop can spam their healing off cooldown without fearing leaving their team unprotected when it matters.
@tadeaslehky98
@tadeaslehky98 2 ай бұрын
I think you could use furina as a solo healer coz her healing is aoe and you would then have 3 damage dealers.
@KategariYami
@KategariYami 2 ай бұрын
Nah BIG CAP on Bennett being even remotely up top. Here's the problem: 1. Circle Impact 2. Circle Impact 3. Did I mention Circle Impact? Circle Impact doesn't matter? Circle Impact matters even more in Co-Op. Unbelievable Mr. Jeff your insane Bennett bias is showing. And it's wrong. A Co-Op arena is usually rather large, so Bennett's Circle Bloody Impact basically means you have to all get together in a small area for his buff to work. But then the problem is everyone suddenly gets hit by an AoE, which in Co Op does way more damage, and oh look at that y'all all DEAD. He's genuinely useless if not a liability in all Boss fights for that reason. Every single time I've ever had a Bennett user (not even a Bennett Main, at least those freaks do DPS) in Co Op, everyone dies. Just because Zajef loves Bennett for meta reasons does not mean he's always the best. This is one of the many times he's actually the worst.
@dragunityx12
@dragunityx12 2 ай бұрын
Just git gud
@tabithal2977
@tabithal2977 2 ай бұрын
yeah and his remark at 2:43 where he is just insanely braindead when it comes to furina's healing in co-op.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget Overloads as well. Like I'll set myself to Dori on a domain that has anemo enemies... and some guy will think he's being useful by swapping to Benny. Or they'll take Benny against the Raiden weekly boss. Just....
@damselettefan
@damselettefan 2 ай бұрын
bennett in apep (i know it isnt apep okoki firgot its name) 3rd phase😰
@purp1e200
@purp1e200 2 ай бұрын
Totally agreed with this. I play coop a lot and I find Bennett to be a high risk high reward kinda character. He gives everyone a huge atk buff but, there is a big risk of getting oneshotted for everyone. I don't think the trade is worth it. He also cannot heal wihtout his burst which is a big downside in coop imo. Some bosses like Azdaha, the whale boss and Signora have phases where they cannot be hit for Bennett to gain energy. So Bennett won't have his burst up all the time. No Burst=No healing for the team.
@generalalatusfallingin
@generalalatusfallingin 2 ай бұрын
Co-op abyss would be amazing. We need more co-op styled end game!!
@GDSam75
@GDSam75 2 ай бұрын
I realised zajef do not have coop experience as soon as he said "no one uses furina as a healer" in the beginning 💀💀
@biscy03
@biscy03 2 ай бұрын
High disagree with putting charas like Xiao, Alhaitham so high in the tier list when these are the kind of charas who dont work well AT ALL without the right teammates. No one coordinates to pick a good team in co-op. Ppl play who they want to, so the more versatile ones less dependent on other charas to buff them or the universal support options are definitely way better than hypercarries who barely function without the right teammates. When he talks about someone like Lyney, he mentions how he will do better if you are playing mono pyro. So like bruh, doesnt that apply to others too? Alhaiitham is only good if electro is there, Xiao is only good if someone brings a battery & healer for him. Same for Cyno who needs dendro & a battery
@scp3999
@scp3999 2 ай бұрын
surely in co-op the bell will have use (on dehya)
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