thanks, i agree!

I don’t think we need a cheaper door, I just can’t figure out how a cheap fiberglass and insulated door costs $10k!! It’s just insane. And thanks, we’ll keep cracking at it!

Thanks, I think so too. Hopefully we can find something that goes well together.

Sandy I agree wit you on the garage gable.

I think I agree.

i believe this door is all vinyl or fiberglass, no wood to rot etc. ill watch though.

Thank you!

thanks! we agree.

Black should help it blend in I think because the ceiling is not smooth. While they dont have the contour, instead of ending flat you end with 1 more “rib” that should finish it. I don’t know but we’ll see.

I regret it now cause I installed it wrong but install was easy vs some real stone or fake stone. I’m sure one day we’ll have to replace

​@@neckofthewoods24may I ask why you regret the genstone?

@@firebird5288 it shrunk. HUGE gaps. Genstone said it was my fault by not using caulking but I did caulk the upper beveled trip piece. Gaps still opened up to like 1/4” and needed caulked again. Some of the main panels are like 1/2” gaps. It’s just a trash product that costs double real stone or even fake concrete stone.

Have you ever tried working with evolve stone? @@neckofthewoods24

I can’t believe that door. I sure hope you charged it on a good charge card that will dispute the product.

only thing with custom is a real wood door is poor on insulation. this door with foam basically with outside vinyl or something, im not sure someone could just make that. we're kinda between a rock and a hard place.

I found that if it's about 1"3/4" solid wood it's good insulation. Just takes some maintenance. Should be able to find someone to do it for about $6000. And it could match the beautiful inside doors.

@@tomjulian1525 that’s only R-1.75 give or take a .10 or so for different wood species. Not good insulation at all.

No problem 😊

Thank you! We agree!

agreed! im surprised the seller isnt trying to sell us another brand they carry at this point! it'll be easy to go all the way up if we go LP Smart side. but if we go fiber cement i dont think it'll look good since the panels are really short. we'll have to many seam breaking it up then.

Thanks but don’t use this stuff! Ended up being terrible.

haha. agreed. at least our seller agrees and is trying his best not to receive the door from the warehouse. one more chance i think and we are done. i want to be done now but not sure who to go with.

Hey Fred! I used borrowed your words this morning when I sent another email letting them know how we feel about the door! The part about the shop class....Thanks!!👍🏻

in combination with a minisplit yes?

Big Ass being an actual brand name .

thanks. the price on the other hand, not so good.

I told them we want progress pics immediately. And that they are not to ship the door until we see it. Supposedly they have some custom woodwork team on it now🙄

Oh.. well.. I'm sure that'll solve everything! (don't slip in the sarcasm :P )

haha exactly. i think erin is done so we'll see what happens now.

Brick ledge 4, straights I think 8, corners I think 4.

100%. Was ok till it wasn’t. Big regret and SO expensive for what it is!!

im more on the cedar shake style like our shed. just have to see if she agrees.

Makes sense. And yeah no limestone!

It’s so bad you can see the wall. Glue wasn’t stopping 1/2” on each side.

1. Keep house attic separated 2. Send the door back. Ran into an issue with a pivot door, we had the option of full return or they could send another to replace it. We opted for replacement but wish we had just gone with another company. 3 years later the door isn’t holding up. 3. I’d keep the board and batten all the way up on the gable end (go with the LP 16’ers). I think another horizontal brake in your wall will cause the wall to look segmented and layered instead of grand. With the GenStone at 48” that gives a focal point while the vertical siding will give the eye a place to rest. You don’t want it too busy with garage doors and 3 different siding looks (in my opinion)

Agree!! It’s insane for a cheap fiberglass insulated door.

Hmm good question. I think the paint was $90-$100 for 5 gallons and I got maybe 14 total? Can’t remember. The zip was zip R 1” so thats not true zip as most just get the regular sheathing. With prices back to normal again it’s hard to say. I covered a ton or wall though with that paint!

It’s horrible. They all shrunk like 1/2”. It’s no bad now! Stuffs junk.

How would I do that for the venting?? As for real wood the issue is the insulation! That’s a 8x8 opening almost and wood would only be R2.5 if I’m lucky!! That’s a huge heat loss and gain! In the house, do you mean the ceiling?

Lol o great! Probably!

from them directly. they first gave us and everyone at the time 5% off but then they gave us like 2% more.

I definitely bought it direct when we did our clients home three weeks ago and again last week and actually in the middle of installing it on another’s

Nope. I never heard the water sealing but to keep them together. I doubt it’d of kept them together as I have gaps at 1/2” now. Where I didn’t have caulking on the top pieces, those are at about 1/4” and pulled the caulking apart so I had to recaulk. Definitely a waste of money!

With how expensive they are, I bet it’s cheaper to just do stonework and add on one you like with mortar and cement and it’ll last forever! This stuffs junk.

@@neckofthewoods24 I agree after looking into how much to do just a small 8.5 ft x 4ft area..their price is ridiculous

@@A.C.71 100%. And it’s won’t last. It’s horrible stuff.

@@neckofthewoods24 Does lowes carry some kind of rock I can use?

@@A.C.71 they carry a ton. just make sure to use the correct mortar and grout for the product you buy.

Wait till you see then end product! I think it’s a amazing.

It sucks though. Don’t do it. Go real or fake real stone.

No. It shrunk and looks bad. They say I was supposed to caulk/glue the ends but it’s shrunk so much it wouldn’t have helped!! It’s also SO EXPENSIVE! Go real faux stone where you can nail or use hidden screws and a shiplap way

Well, that sucks. But thanks for letting me know! Will go a more traditional route then. Thank you.

@@bignickcalderon No problem!!

and i still need more! $$$. wish id get paid for that commercial haha. ALL shake? we definitely want board and batten for the majority of the wall and all of the front and back of the house. im fine with an upper triangle shake look for the gables.

That’s no good! Is anything made good anymore??

Nope

Horrible. Shrunk about 1/2” on all sides. I know I didn’t caulk like I should of but no caulk in the would is holding back this level of shrinking. My upper slop pieces I did caulk and they still shrunk and pulled away from the caulking and look like crap.

Nope but anything is probably better than Genstone.

I didn’t use the Rub-R-Wall there cause the Zip has that type of waterproofing already on it. I could have doubled it up but I’m fairly confident it’ll be ok. And yes, you’re right haha, she’ll tell me what to do there.

@@neckofthewoods24 My missus got me a printed t-shirt once she had printed with " I wear the trousers in my family because my wife said so!"

Exactly.

@@neckofthewoods24 I believe what you are looking at on the bottom of the door jamb is a vinyl block that sits on the threshold to keep it from rotting out of jambs and it was painted to match. Not uncommon for the seams on the bottom

@@patrickjohnson7801 hmm, didnt think about that but they replaced and fixed it so its all 1 now. but thats a reason i did a step up into the house on all sides. keeps snow and rain off the door since its 7" up.

The GenStone has a shingle affect for install and the screws are caulked after so it’s sealed. The screws into the zip are technically not sealed behind the GenStone but the garage is spray foamed to the screws are sealed from the inside. I don’t think there’s any product in the world besides stucco where you don’t put a nail or screw through your facade.

It’s feeling like it!😡

I’m not sure! I’m not comfortable with the price for what it is! I don’t think fiberglass and insulation should cost that much! It should be a 1/3rd the cost of a real wood door but those are 1/2 the cost!

Lol where would I have added it? To the water proof foam or the water proof OSB?

ha, yeah right. they'd screw us big time if we really tried that.

Their job is to keep the customer happy. For the amount of money you are paying there is no way you should have to accept a product that looks like crap. It’s either done right or refund the thousands of dollars they are charging. For that much it should be perfect!

@@lesismor54 I have asked repeatedly for pics from the warehouse showing how the door currently looks. Interesting I have yet to receive a response. I told them do NOT ship that door without sending pics first! I’m not dealing with trying to return a door that is subpar.

@@HorsesandPorsches, I don’t know how much bigger your front door is than ours, but ours is fiberglass. Pella was great to work with and did a great job installing it for a total of $5500.

@@lesismor54 We need all the suggestions we can get. Our front door is pretty big plus it has sidelights.

lots more to come!

Apparently but it wouldn’t matter.