Geoff Johns' GEIGER #1- When Did Reading Comics Become Such A CHORE?

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@RagingGoldenEagle 3 жыл бұрын

When you see an uptick of a specific genre and it seems like the creators aren't really into it, that's a big red flag indicating a fad, and everyone is trying to jump on the bandwagon to get a piece of that $$

@josiahclarke3535 3 жыл бұрын

'Member Zombies?

@meatbagspaai6370 3 жыл бұрын

"Why do these milquetoaste guys keep trying to make these cutsie-pie tough-guy Post-Apocalypses?" Fallout. It's because of Fallout.

@meatbagspaai6370 3 жыл бұрын

@@DemienC. Yeah but New Vegas is good.

@DIOBrando-ij2bp 3 жыл бұрын

It remind me more of Westworld, and how there were different themed parks like Western World, Roman World, and Medieval World. It seems like Johns is doing that and using the post-apocalyptic setting to do post-apocalyptic Batman fighting a bunch of gangs that themed themselves after the casinos they took over. Post-apocalyptic fiction isn’t exactly new to weird themed groups, you just don’t usually get so many all together all at once. Main gangs seem to be: - Game of Thrones (timely) - The Great Gatsby (probably Eyes Wide Shut too) - Romes (Maybe they have a Maxie Zeus like character. If Jupiter maybe combined with Jupiter from The Hills Have Eyes) - African Safari (Quatermain? Indiana Jones? That one dentist? Tiger King?) - Sci-fi (maybe anime) - Pirates (probably Pirates of the Caribbean) - James Bond Looks like there’s some lesser ones that’d have cowboys, samurai, clowns, frontiersmen, leprechauns, caveman, (maybe also people in dinosaur suits) and a few others as well.

@maxwellkafka 3 жыл бұрын

I remember my grandmother got excited for the Empty Nest/Golden Girls crossover

@32FONickweiser 3 жыл бұрын

Personally I dug this book unlike Undiscovered Country. It comes off as a Netflix pitch but I don't mind as long as I enjoy it. Also, it was nice to see a dad who was not a bad dad! Haha but hey different strokes!

@mattanderson3619 3 жыл бұрын

The map with the goofy leaders is straight out of Batman no man's land

@louisekenway3455 3 жыл бұрын

Also reminds me of Fallout New Vegas

@NerdettesNewsStand 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, I'm surprised, I loved this book!

@darkwingduck4793 3 жыл бұрын

I was pretty disappointed honestly. I’m glad you liked it that’s awesome. Maybe it’ll get better for me and I’ll still pick up the following issues. The power up was really cool and I did enjoy the line art quite a bit. A lot of people don’t seem to like the art. The coloring reminds me of those free or cheap comics we’d get when digital color was new and I think that turns people off. To each his own.

@Dolan_waddick23 3 жыл бұрын

I’m glad you enjoyed it, but like in my review with Shawn on our Comics Elite Channel, I’m struggling to see how I can REALLY like it. Maybe you can explain the aspects of what you loved?

@seppukusushi2848 3 жыл бұрын

Most people aren't quite as Masochistic as Zack when it comes to their reading selections.

@RandomAmerican3000 3 жыл бұрын

Geiger number one? Is that some kind of Geiger counter?

@samuelyawful 3 жыл бұрын

I like Geoff Johns' work in DC, I won't lie, and he seems to be trying to make the glowing guy into some kind of post-apocalyptic batman? Not really my style but I might pick it up for his writing

@adult8207 3 жыл бұрын

It’s pretty dope so far

@EatWave 3 жыл бұрын

Writing comic books are a chore to these people so it feels like a chore to read them.

@shadowhawktalks7814 3 жыл бұрын

Let's not forget the Rebirth stuff w/EVS

@bobgoblin7733 3 жыл бұрын

A chore you paid to be lectured with

@HandlemeOften 3 жыл бұрын

The Nuke opened a doorway to the negative zone. That's why Annihilus is on his chest.

@JenniferMcMahonhawaii78 3 жыл бұрын

I will say the cover is very Vin Diesel..ly. It makes me want to go back and rewatch Pitch Black and Chronicles of Riddick Lol

@Dolan_waddick23 3 жыл бұрын

We reviewed it on The Comics Elite KZfaq Channel last week. I said it was “meh”. Wasn’t terrible and and it wasn’t bad. Johns just took a blender where he tossed in a dozen concepts, and hit frappe.

@PaulSchermerhorn 3 жыл бұрын

The majority of TV, comics, etc. need to return to self-contained storylines where you can jump in at any point and enjoy the product.

@Matt-yn8dv 3 жыл бұрын

This "Geiger" book is basicly "The Badlands" . with a few minor twists.

@arionahall2731 3 жыл бұрын

Lol I like your Lord Farquad take on the red haired guy

@moondoor9031 3 жыл бұрын

That's the word that describes what I feel after reading the recent comics in the Industry. I feel like it was something I would be forced to read after being grounded.

@HerculesBallsInc 3 жыл бұрын

"Clean your room or we'll make you read another comic from our special box!" "Nooooo!"

@markthompson9754 3 жыл бұрын

I should refer you to Neal Adams interview about Jack Kirby. He said there are a lot of people who can do comics and a very few who can come up with a totally original concept and even FEWER who can do so repeatedly and effortlessly like Jack Kirby. I still consider Johns a genius but it puts the comic book pantheon of Lee, Joe Simon, Siegel, Schuster, Bob Kane into a deeper perspective.

@daxammight 3 жыл бұрын

Mom: Did you read your comics? Me: No... Mom: Well you better!

@pp1608 3 жыл бұрын

Gary Frank's art man god i love his art i 100% agree about Johns he always reminded me of a okay writer that wanted to work for hollywood and just did comics as a stepping stone #restorethesnyderverse

@pp1608 3 жыл бұрын

@@MaxP_88 never said he didn't #restorethesnyderverse

@PudgeDredd 3 жыл бұрын

For some reason I still remember the Ebert review where he gave Kickass a bad rating because it was too violent. And for the 3rd Predator movie all he talked about is the planet they landed on wasn't realistically tidally locked and had animal with too many teeth/tusks on its head and thus was an inaccurate design from an evolution perspective.

@roblee1066 3 жыл бұрын

Dreyfuss and Park Overall. It was fun. More fun, less Very Special Comics is what we need.

@SwayRod836 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, I know the plot is stupid but I have a weakness for Gary Frank's style.

@arkhamasylumsjanitor4039 3 жыл бұрын

Geoff johns he is 4 star comic writer now because of hollywood Delusions but if he let go of this hollywood nonsense he will be a legend in comic in few years

@teux01 3 жыл бұрын

Comics aren't a chore if you buy the right ones. I look forward to every comic that's delivered to my house from #comicsgate.

@milestrombley1466 3 жыл бұрын

Everybody wants their own Mad Max. 😑

@zac6358 3 жыл бұрын

Scott Snyder's 2nd ongoing Nocterra is also a post apocalyptic where the entire world is covered in darkness

@davidh.4944 3 жыл бұрын

Now why does that cover remind me of MST3K? 🤔

@burningdaylights 3 жыл бұрын

Two reasons: the silhouette at the bottom and the checkerboard stripe at the top is like the Gizmonics logo.

@Jerry_Fried 3 жыл бұрын

To paraphrase James Abbott McNeill Whistler, if the viewer can see that you've put a lot of work into it, you haven't put enough work into it.

@hjalmarthehelmetman 3 жыл бұрын

the band Angel Sword has a song called Midnight Survivor, which is about a guy who glows and rides a bike in the post apocalypse, it's very enjoyable. Go listen to that and find humanity again.

@keithdotson3991 3 жыл бұрын

Ugh, this is the one problem with preordering. I have this ordered up to #3. Maybe it'll be a hit & I can unload them. I've only looked through this one a couple times, I still haven't read it yet. There's an outside chance I may be into it by the 3rd issue. Frustrating.

@Renfeir 3 жыл бұрын

This video made my day!

@treed6038 3 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of creators could learn from ROBOCOP. The way that movie injects the world through small vignettes like, "I'd buy that for a dollar!" was superlative. The lore never gets in the way of the plot or the action, and yet by the end of the movie we feel like we know the world nonetheless. Creators need to stop with the expansive exposition.

@Eudaimonia239 3 жыл бұрын

this looks good, I like geoff johns work even though it can be heavy at times.

@lcdrfish8633 3 жыл бұрын

Can you ask Chuck Dixon about revisiting his old Evangeline character/comic? Maybe a crowdfunded collected edition and some new material?

@poetik1ofthedark 3 жыл бұрын

I remember when I first played Fallout 3, I'd never really thought much about a Post-Apocalyptic World. I got into the game and REALLY started thinking about a PAW. Considered prepping, had specific places I would go in the hills. I could see myself making a PAW comic then... I don't think about it much these days.

@kryptikkomatose 3 жыл бұрын

so question i didnt start getting back into comics until i found comixology in 2017 and since then i pretty much 90% of the time read my comics digitally which is good and bad,anyways i looked at my purchased comics the other day and its says i purchased about 2400 comics and to me thats crazy alot but id like to ask is that alot of comics or is that normal amount for average person?

@adamknight1387 3 жыл бұрын

Doomsday clock was great, it just needed to come out on time

@77jonsan 3 жыл бұрын

I picked this up on a whim while trying to find something to buy in my LCS. I should have known with all the variant covers....

@erickenneycreative 3 жыл бұрын

Ironically, Gary Frank took over Hulk right after Kweon.

@epicslacker9762 3 жыл бұрын

GEIGER would have been a good series, if Geoff just made that plot dump in the beginning into a issue it's own issue (or at least an issue #0), focus on making it great comic and not a netflix pitch in a ever growing ocean of netflix pitches.

@logicalphallusry 3 жыл бұрын

5:02 oh boy I hope he does the bit where he tries to read it all in one breath

@logicalphallusry 3 жыл бұрын

Damn. Times have changed around here.

@Cinecrisis 3 жыл бұрын

I'd have to read it for myself to know for sure, but honestly didn't look that bad at all, certainly compared to almost everything coming out of DC and Marvel anymore

@jawnsushi 3 жыл бұрын

You didn't show it but how about that panel that introduces Geiger's neighbors as that husband and wife couple who held guns against protestors a few months ago in St. Louis? 🙄

@DIOBrando-ij2bp 3 жыл бұрын

Looking at the way it’s written, it seems like it should look very cartoony but be crazy over-the-top ultraviolent. Like if this looked like Dick Sprang Batman or something, and you had the juxtaposition of that style with lines like “A sign huh? And what would it say “KEEP OUT OR YOU LOSE YOUR TEETH?”” against him kicking a guy in the face and it exploding in blood (could even have a closeup of his messed up face missing all his front teeth) that might at least be funny. The art isn’t bad, but this seems like it’d be way more interesting and fitting if like a Bruce Timm or someone was doing it.

@queazy03 3 жыл бұрын

Don't know anything about Geoff Johns except how much he tried to screw up Christopher Nolan & Zack Snyder, then turn around and help Patty Jenkins with WW84. Apparently after At&t merged with Warner Bros, At&t told him to screw off hurting their movies, so he escaped back to comics

@Qthetar 3 жыл бұрын

Well these directors basically ripped off his comics

@nerdrock8087 3 жыл бұрын

Grooooan!! But I don't wanna work in comics!! Gosh!!

@josephadorno92 3 жыл бұрын

I liked it better than Scott Snyder's "Nocterra", thought it might've helped that I bought the copy with a variant cover by Erik Larsen, which made it kinda jolly compared to the main cover.

@levkarlson8249 3 жыл бұрын

Same here

@josephadorno92 3 жыл бұрын

@@levkarlson8249 Larsen's popularity is underrated; I've heard sales of "Savage Dragon" have gone up in the last few months after both seasons of the 90's cartoon became available to watch free on NBCUniversal's Peacock streaming service.

@levkarlson8249 3 жыл бұрын

@@josephadorno92 I have been noticing on NCBD savage dragon books are usually half to nearly empty on the shelf rack so I’ve definitely noticed that too

@josephadorno92 3 жыл бұрын

@@levkarlson8249 I initially saw no difference - the book is usually under-ordered; whoever bought a copy, bought a copy and that's that, especially after Dragon's son became the star of the book and if they just want it because Erik is drawing Malcolm & Maxine naked & knocking boots every issue, then, fine...except when I read those issues in trade form, I noticed the quality of the scripts has gotten better, if not back to what it was decades ago, when it debuted, but better. I remember thinking after issue 100, it felt like Erik was just using the book as a vehicle for his own take on other trends in comics, right down to replacing his lead character, like the "aging in real time" gimmick had gone too far.

@theredman2783 3 жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ, someone played FallOut and said "I can make a gruesomely inferior knock off of this!"

@Qthetar 3 жыл бұрын

Actually this is much better pitch than fallout

@joshuagraham2843 3 жыл бұрын

I like it, its like fallout new vegas had superhero oh wait thats like old man logan but glows

@mrzolo4503 3 жыл бұрын

next video Zack talks about wearing Kleenex boxes on his feet.

@burningpegasus 3 жыл бұрын

Seems like Geoff johns is still hasn’t stopped writing doomsday clock and the only way to continue it is by doing his creator own series.

@Off-Brand_Devin 3 жыл бұрын

7:36 Looks like someone used the Redwing Iron Rangers as reference for those boots.

@hjalmarthehelmetman 3 жыл бұрын

Zack just start reviewing manga, you're subscribers will skyrocket and you'll be happier everyday. that's what I'm doing, the One Punch Man manga is fire.

@backwards7 3 жыл бұрын

A pirate in charge of the pirate casino. An emperor in charge of the Colosseum: This is the Familyland episode of American Dad!

@TheVanillaQueen 3 жыл бұрын

I really liked the first issue funnily enough. Hope it doesn't fizzle out like Nocterra is. I really like the protagonist as his origin definitely displays some great heroic qualities. The art is pretty good. Could definitely see it getting stale pretty quick though. Nocterra had a great premise and world for the first issue, but reading the second issue was a slog as Snyder did very little additional worldbuilding and the characters are incredibly uncompelling. I'd hate to see Geiger go in the same direction of packing everything good into the first issue and killing the momentum immediately.

@nivekleveb8872 3 жыл бұрын

Empty Nest, huh? Shout out to David Leisure.

@hadesshivabuddhachrist8573 3 жыл бұрын

You say it feels like Johns is doing work, I say he's actually putting in some effort, the quickly done modern work is stuff like Shuri. We've also got a good father doing right by his family, this seems tailored to you, given some of your asks over the years for industry content. In fairness to your review though, arts nice, good father is nice, this looks really generic though so I don't see myself buying it based on this issue

@HenchmenNo616 3 жыл бұрын

Wait wait this is Geoff Johns? As in Hal Jordan GL run Geoff John? I saw issue 2 of Geiger in my local comic shop (in UK). I didn't look at the writer name just flicked through the book since it was image published. Bland colour palette made me put it back on the shelf at the end. If I noticed John's name on the cover I'd have bought the issue and given it a go. A pity for such a bland and exposition dumped start

@colinstewart3531 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, if you want to be Fallout, just get licensed.

@warrenjehosephat231 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like the Cimabue to Fallout's Brunelleschi is Six String Samurai, which was unbearable garbage.

@enochofmi 3 жыл бұрын

So it's the new vegas comic, but bethesda refused to license a comic.

@joshuajohnson413 3 жыл бұрын

Fallout 7 comic book?

@dapenguin1495 3 жыл бұрын

You should review Two Moons from Image. It’s better than most of the shit Marvel puts out nowadays.

@tytyvyllus8298 3 жыл бұрын

The King Joffrey type character doesn't even make sense in the context of the story's world. You get rulers like that in a time of decadence not in a post civilizational collapse. Every leader should be tough as nails.

@nardopolo7407 3 жыл бұрын

is his power that busted ass hairline?

@wheeljack0 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you got to do a video on this comic. I was looking forward to the comic but thought it was terrible. The hero is just a rip off of Scare Glow Skeletor & the next door neighbors with guns have been stolen from images of the couple protecting their house last year from the rioters. Very sloppy work from these two guys that have been in the industry for years. On another note See Alex Ross has just ripped off David Bowie with his up & coming 'Marvels' comic.

@JohnVmc2 3 жыл бұрын

I get it, Zack doesn't like to read.

@andersonxaviersilva 3 жыл бұрын

And in the REAL LIFE, the armed boomer guy and wife was the ones who defended their house against the invasors! Even YOU Geoff Johns!?

@Bolbi145 3 жыл бұрын

Shame, I really liked Geoff’s other works

@FizzFop1 3 жыл бұрын

How in a post apocalyptic world does the soy prince become ruler of anything? Why would anyone follow or listen?

@Qthetar 3 жыл бұрын

@@InfamyOrDeath-__- cuz his father was a leader a group that then expanded into this little brat kid

@donbarr1 3 жыл бұрын

Lots of like like likes

@CatAtomic99 3 жыл бұрын

Whenever I see a panel with that much type I get annoyed. If you want to write a novel, write a novel.

@torrancemoore6152 3 жыл бұрын

Seems mildly interesting but the story not really taking its setting seriously is a bit if a red flag

@davidmiranda9227 3 жыл бұрын

Post Americana is a better alternative

@rokanfiction-benjackson7146 3 жыл бұрын

Dude, this comic is fine. You need to chill the hell out

@jaxkommish 3 жыл бұрын

Its just Fallout:Vegas the comic

@oldmandavid7944 3 жыл бұрын

This book feels like a repurposed tv series script . It feels like the first 22 mins of a pilot episode . I am tired of reading tv show ideas turned into “ comics “ these people need to be reminded that Comics matter , repurposed tv pitches don’t !

@jdredd8152 3 жыл бұрын

Huh... This review, even though it's negative toward the comic and Geoff John's work, actually makes me want to buy the book. The artwork looks terrific and the storyline seems really good and interesting to me. I guess we'll have to just disagree on this one, Zack.

@Raziberry 3 жыл бұрын

This post-apocalyptic vision is basically just a lame rip-off of how Fallout handles human settlements.

@doctorcraptonicus7941 3 жыл бұрын

Zack's next comic is going to be called "aLl wErK And nO pLaY MaKeS zAcK A DuLL bOy" (-that's all the dialogue as well.) Obsessive Compulsive Comics Presents!....

@Zavi1313 3 жыл бұрын

It's not that bad, you need to chill 🤪

@TunezCottage 3 жыл бұрын

I mean the thing is though, your viewers develop with you. And begin to understand you. So what I'm trying to say is, keep going forever buddy.

@DickWaggles 3 жыл бұрын

"Hey look I made fallout new Vegas a bad comic"

@Qthetar 3 жыл бұрын

It’s not even s bad comic

@Vent69420 3 жыл бұрын

"keep out or lose your teeth" while the character punches someone in the teeth? Uff. Totally not terrible and very subtle storytelling John's. I think he was a better writer before he became an exposition dumping, subtext packing writer who thinks he is Alan Moore but as you said, he could've been one of the twenty writers for the Adam west Batman story. Shame!

@cumberbatchpepperpot 3 жыл бұрын

Terrible book, but they go to Las Vegas. Thumbs up from me

@miamikaos5958 3 жыл бұрын

Why do y'all make it out that "3 Jokers" was good?? Outside of the art, the story was trash. Ok so Red Hood killed one of the Jokers, what happened to his body?? Was there a funeral?? An autopsy?? Any news reports saying the Joker is dead? The police aren't looking for whoever shot the "joker" in the head?? Other heroes aren't looking into it as well? This would have been good ONLY as an elsewhere story.

@GuyFromRedBank 3 жыл бұрын

Well, this comic book looks great and I'm SORRY you don't like it!

@adamw116 3 жыл бұрын

What the hell does "cutesy pie" mean, can't you find a better way to phrase that? Do you mean cutey pie?

@rickwj324 3 жыл бұрын

I used to be a huge DC Fanboy before the SJW's took over. I really liked most of Johns' work back in the day. I don't know anything about this book but if it keeps "wokeness" out of I hope it does well for him...especially since little bit*hes like Ray Fisher are hellbent on destroying the man.

@rickwj324 3 жыл бұрын

@@InfamyOrDeath-__- Yeah...I haven't either. I was just making a statement that as long as "wokeness" stays out of it I will support it. In fact, right after I watched this video I grabbed issue #1 off ebay and added the title to my pull list (which currently only contains all TMNT and Usagi books). There was a time when my pull list held EVERY DC title.

@jeffwiese4037 3 жыл бұрын

it's like darkman, but not. so not off the wall entertaining because it isn't a sam raimi movie?

@oldmandavid7944 3 жыл бұрын

A comic like this should be drawn in a way that would inspire Michael Bay to make the movie about it , not drawn like a storyboard for an AMC series . I mean this thing is ready to shoot as a regular tv show ! Be like Frank Miller ! Drawn the book like 300 ! A book that is visually stunning and challenges a director to put it on film . Not this yawn fest . Gary franks pencils looks like he is bored drawing it . Well Gary I was bored reading it !

@VarangianVigilante 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a soy remake of Fallout New Vegas

@noneofyourbusiness1114 3 жыл бұрын

How is geiger woke? I thought it was okay atleast the art was good .... Serious question?

@Stutts1895 2 жыл бұрын

This is literally fallout the comic book luckily I love fallout. I think your being rather dismissive like yeah the dialog is kinda stilled but it's stereotypical badass stuff ya know like some shit batman would say. But with this whole cutesy thing you keep talking about I really don't know what you want from the comic. Yeah Vegas is ruled by families themed around the places they inhabit. Who would have guessed people living in a pirate casino would find pirate clothes to wear right. Yeah it's not very gritty but fuck what do you want from it this is a story about society a few years after the bombs hit not right after. Giger would be a much shorter run of comics I think if it were based on nothing more than the people cooked to a crisp on the asphalt begging to die or people curled Into balls on the streets dying of radiation poisoning. All in all tho I like the comic