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Georg Muffat: the rules of violin bowing, David Wilson and Voices of Music

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@earlystrings1
@earlystrings1 2 жыл бұрын
Great, clear exposition of Muffat. Its interesting how influential those French orchestral rules have been for baroque players of the past 50 (!) years and how little we've paid attention to what Muffat says the Germans and Italians did.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 9 жыл бұрын
We are now using an updated subtitle/closed captions system. For a translation into any language, or to access the text, turn on subtitles/captions--the "cc" button, then click the settings "gear" and select any language from the menu.
@baxter5431
@baxter5431 9 жыл бұрын
Muffat's rules for bowing give great direction as to the articulation & accent & thereby allowing us today to recreate what the music actually did sound like as opposed to how modern orchestras have negated these aspects. It also, for me as a keyboard player, indicates the way the notes & phrases should be approached. Thanks for this video!
@RobinHood5045
@RobinHood5045 9 жыл бұрын
I really like this video because it can be fantastic for people learning the Violin. This is because with each piece of music being on screen while the performer plays, you can observe the bow stroke divisions for the notes. And whether to go up bow or down bow on certain notes in music may teach people about how the bow can be used to create "accents" on the strongest beats.
@sg_dan
@sg_dan 4 жыл бұрын
It is fascinanting how Quantz and Tromlitz, decades after Muffat, would apply rules so closely related to Muffat's with regards to articulation on the flute.
@josechrist3948
@josechrist3948 7 жыл бұрын
This is perfect teaching!!!
@FiddlerSteve
@FiddlerSteve 9 жыл бұрын
Muffat's rules still work well for modern dance fiddling! Great video, and thanks for the link to IU Press! I found several books in addition to the Muffat volume that I'm interested in...
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 9 жыл бұрын
***** How interesting~!
@koko.hauoli
@koko.hauoli 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sooo much. Looked everywhere for this information!!!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic Ай бұрын
You are very welcome.
@albaconejomangas9964
@albaconejomangas9964 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely! Please, join more videos like this one. I am a baroque violin player and it is really helpful.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@polomokipo6000
@polomokipo6000 8 жыл бұрын
GEORG MUFFAT { MEGEVE 1653-1704 PASSAU } THE RULES OF VIOLON BOWING - DAVID WILSON . Merci pour se cour de musique , au violon tank you.
@DrCoyoteBanjo
@DrCoyoteBanjo 9 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic resource--brilliant use of the medium. Well done all!
@MaestroGosta
@MaestroGosta Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@geiryvindeskeland7208
@geiryvindeskeland7208 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry for my inadequate English. Do we know for sure that Bach would have supported Georg Muffat's rules? And Voices of Music, thank you so much for answer our questions!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 6 жыл бұрын
There must have been some bowing rules for Bach and most other composers, since performers didn't write in the bowings. There's no reason to think these rules were very different for Bach, but by the end of the baroque period you start to see some comments by players wanting more freedom in the bowing. Since the bowings aren't marked in, we don't really know the exact bowings that were used. Some groups use Muffat's rules for most of the repertory, other groups do not. However, many groups add extensive markings to the music which you don't see in the baroque, and that argues in favor of some sort of system or tradition.
@martinh1277
@martinh1277 5 жыл бұрын
Baroque music is dancing and singing. Muffat learned the bowings from Lullys orchestra, so we shold use them for all dance music in French style. More important as the bowings is the sound that came to the audience. A singer is to be imitated. How that works on baroque violin bowings you can see in the notes of any baroque composer. There is no written rules, there can't be any. It is a matter of good taste. Good taste is the taste of the auditors. They paid for it. @@VoicesofMusic
@StephanieHughesDesign
@StephanieHughesDesign 6 жыл бұрын
As a Baroque music lover, Vivaldi or Bach would approve of David Wilson's excellent bowing explanation. Being a novice myself, I am starting to learn more about bowing technique and how Baroque v Classical or Romantic differ. Thank you David Wilson. Tres bon.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic Ай бұрын
Merci!
@swaroopn1
@swaroopn1 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, Thank you so much
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Most welcome
@saamalander
@saamalander 3 жыл бұрын
so informative and exactly what I was looking for, many thanks!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome.
@fancyqanun3483
@fancyqanun3483 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening
@javierm6234
@javierm6234 2 жыл бұрын
This videos are very useful! Thanks!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@piperwalton
@piperwalton 6 жыл бұрын
So are these rules also applicable to German and Italian music, or only French? Would, say, Corelli's sonatas or Telemann's fantasias benefit from the application of these rules?
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Some ppl use them for everything, but for sure French & German.
@tabbycatz
@tabbycatz 9 жыл бұрын
Such a good explanation...thank you!!
@johdrydaniels
@johdrydaniels 7 жыл бұрын
Really Thanks so much for this!
@alirezagolestaneh6080
@alirezagolestaneh6080 5 жыл бұрын
Very good tnx for explains
@Saxoprane
@Saxoprane 4 жыл бұрын
This video is Gold ! Thanks !
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic Ай бұрын
:)
@bgcellozone
@bgcellozone 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!!
@anagenicamangana7365
@anagenicamangana7365 3 жыл бұрын
impressive ☺🤗
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@marcussfebruary9104
@marcussfebruary9104 6 жыл бұрын
There should be a video of Hanneke talking about various things on the harpsichord!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@drzaeus5624
@drzaeus5624 4 жыл бұрын
First she needs to know how to play the instrument properly and not bore us to death
@ilynov
@ilynov 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this explanation! After desperate looking for information on the subject - so concise and short! Thank you! So how did actually German and Italian baroque players synchronize their bowings???
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic Ай бұрын
You just follow the concertmaster.
@KevOSMusic
@KevOSMusic 9 жыл бұрын
As a none string player this has been extremely enlightening. Puts me in mind about the baroque French organ rules. Would German/Italian bowing traditions have been performed as alternate bowing (up/down/up/down) or would there be some variations?
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 9 жыл бұрын
***** For sure there would have been all sorts of individual styles and variations.
@CruelLion7
@CruelLion7 6 жыл бұрын
You play very well :)
@anaissa5313
@anaissa5313 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!!!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@cristianoscaglioni1965
@cristianoscaglioni1965 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!! Thanks so much! But could you please set up video caption?
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 9 жыл бұрын
Cristiano Scaglioni We are working on the captions right now as well as a downloadable pdf :)
@cristianoscaglioni1965
@cristianoscaglioni1965 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah! My english hearing is not that good yet. hehe
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 9 жыл бұрын
Cristiano Scaglioni Captions on line and can also be automatically translated.
@cristianoscaglioni1965
@cristianoscaglioni1965 9 жыл бұрын
Voices of Music thanks so much! Love you from voices of music!
@saeidyazdani
@saeidyazdani 4 жыл бұрын
Nice :)
@andreasvandieaarde
@andreasvandieaarde 2 жыл бұрын
So they're not really rules then? More like guidelines. Not to be semantic about it, but there's so much confusion (which I think is partly deliberate) when it comes to conversation about how to play music in the western classical sphere (anything from medieval to romantic music) with "rules" in mind. I'm personally sick of the confusion that still happens now considering this is almost 8 years old.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 2 жыл бұрын
A set of rules is a like a grammar book, you learn that, and, then, if you choose, you may make your own rules to create literature or poetry. If you are playing baroque music, learning Muffat's rules will not take long and it's valuable skill.
@bambiwaddlefeet
@bambiwaddlefeet 5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a violin with no chin rest.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Instruments from the time of Amati, Guarnerius, Stainer and Stradivarius never had chin rests.
@gregmonks
@gregmonks Жыл бұрын
Rule #1: There are no rules.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic Жыл бұрын
Rule #2 always follow rule #1
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