George R. R Martin on Drogon vs Smaug

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6 жыл бұрын

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@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 5 жыл бұрын
Drogon has the Intellect of a well trained Golden retriever. While Smaug has Human levels intelligence, can speak and has thousands of years of experience.
@Macoinebak
@Macoinebak 5 жыл бұрын
Smaug is way wiser than a human
@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 5 жыл бұрын
@@Macoinebak Smaug is Intelligent and Knowledgeable, but he's not"Wise".
@slim7406
@slim7406 5 жыл бұрын
@@jascrandom9855 You forgot to mention that Smaug has the physical advantage being far more durable. We saw how weak the dragons armour was in GoT, and how impenetrable Smaug's armour was. Smaug's claws would rip into Balerion with ease, and hold his mouth open and breathe fire down his throat (like Godzilla did to the muto). Idc if Smaug is smaller than any dragon from GoT he wins because they can't do much to him.
@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 5 жыл бұрын
@@slim7406 Well, they both harmed by Ballistas. And Drogon is far from being the largest Dragon that has lived in Planetos. Aegon The conqueror's Dragon was the sizes of a 747. I think that Drogon could Hurt Smaug his fire and claws. Smaug's real advantage is his Intellect.
@slim7406
@slim7406 5 жыл бұрын
@@jascrandom9855 Drogon was hurt by a normal ballista, Smaug isn't hurt by normal ballistas. And it has to be in a certain spot because they can hardly pierce his armour, also Drogon and the other dragons would be hurt by just by getting hit by one. Balerion is around the size of Smaug, and Smaug has tougher armour, since he already has the intellectual advantage and now the physical advantage it'd be a fairly easy win for the gold hoarder.
@mikecali5384
@mikecali5384 5 жыл бұрын
Smaug was covered in liquid gold, which is a heavy metal and he still could take flight. That’s how powerful he is.
@ancientdarkness3102
@ancientdarkness3102 5 жыл бұрын
That's only in the movie
@mikecali5384
@mikecali5384 5 жыл бұрын
Ancient Darkness so
@pain002
@pain002 5 жыл бұрын
@@ancientdarkness3102 And drogon is really only a fraction of the size he is in the books so far compared to the show
@tendopain2585
@tendopain2585 5 жыл бұрын
Pain Nightmare well GRRM was obviously talking about the books though. “Dragon is barely big enough to get Dany into the sky” he’s huge in the show
@tendopain2585
@tendopain2585 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Cali ^ was for you not Pain Nightmare
@Geekus
@Geekus 5 жыл бұрын
Now if it were Smaug against Balerion, Vhaegar, and Meraxes together, it might be a fair battle.
@Simon-fj2wn
@Simon-fj2wn 5 жыл бұрын
Ancalagon the black will screw them all together
@Unpluggedx89
@Unpluggedx89 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrySmi adding Species 8472 as an Enterprise crew and they'd have a shot
@Unpluggedx89
@Unpluggedx89 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrySmi omfg I just had some badass imagery if the Borg assimilated Smaug
@patrickneumann5519
@patrickneumann5519 5 жыл бұрын
Balerion would kill smaug easily
@calebfleming123
@calebfleming123 5 жыл бұрын
Simon K for anyone wondering ancalagan the black is probably twice the size of gidorah in this new Godzilla movie maybe smaller but that’s how big he was.
@Damasen13
@Damasen13 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine that iron fleet ineffective against smaug. Smaug: What will you do now, bowmen? You're all forsaken. No help will come.
@tim7225
@tim7225 5 жыл бұрын
hahahahhahaha best comment my man ;)
@merbuhk
@merbuhk 4 жыл бұрын
Well, even Drogon destroyed them after all. I think if Smaug occasionally flies over the Iron Fleet, he wouldn't even give a shit.
@Latenivenatrix_Mcmasterae
@Latenivenatrix_Mcmasterae 3 жыл бұрын
@@merbuhk he probably would since he has a high ego and he destroyed Lake town and is not fond of humans so
@Latenivenatrix_Mcmasterae
@Latenivenatrix_Mcmasterae 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the most Smaug accurate hypothesis I’ve ever heard
@steffanyschwartz7801
@steffanyschwartz7801 Жыл бұрын
Euron can’t randomly 360 noskope the dragons now.
@sae05z
@sae05z 5 жыл бұрын
Drogon and Smaug fights for their lives Ancalagon: *THAT'S CUTE*
@MrRobban1234
@MrRobban1234 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe we Will see him on the screen someday! Together with the rest of those beautiful creatures!
@darikai219
@darikai219 4 жыл бұрын
Ghidorah: *cackles*
@MrRobban1234
@MrRobban1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@darikai219 wrong mythology my friend!
@nazgul0348
@nazgul0348 4 жыл бұрын
darikai219 ghidora it’s a kaigiu Isn’t a normal dragon
@nazgul0348
@nazgul0348 4 жыл бұрын
민트초코맛된장찌개 ancalagon isn’t a normal dragon
@NobodyButSomebody74
@NobodyButSomebody74 Жыл бұрын
Really love how he just doesn't try to make dragon win and just accepts it
@enomisv9830
@enomisv9830 Жыл бұрын
He did in the one lannister dude vs Aragorn.
@Penguinverse
@Penguinverse 29 күн бұрын
@@enomisv9830 To be fair, Jaime Lannister is the most skilled swordsman in all of Westoros so there's more of an argument there than Drogon vs. Smaug
@enomisv9830
@enomisv9830 29 күн бұрын
@Penguinverse and aragorn is the greatest swordsman of the third age with 60+ years of experience and is still in his prime.
@gezenews
@gezenews 12 күн бұрын
@@enomisv9830 In large part because of his prowess and strength compared to the average human. If Aragorn went and challenged the most prodigious young man in the whole of middle earth and he used this lightweight adamantium bullshit, there's more than a good chance he wins. And honestly there is nothing backing that up other than the respect for prodigies. They exist and there is a chasm between them and normal people when it comes to their special skill.
@enomisv9830
@enomisv9830 12 күн бұрын
@@gezenews what are you talking about? When did prodigies and adamantium become part of this debate?
@BORISTIMUS
@BORISTIMUS 5 жыл бұрын
Smaug would destroy every dragon In GOT. I love Tolkien and I love GOT. As books I actually prefer game of thrones but I still have to give it to Smaug. Powerful, old, intelligent and can speak which makes him a lot more scarier.
@Deepak__Mehta
@Deepak__Mehta 5 жыл бұрын
What if George r r martin gave the ability to speak to balerion the dread then??
@zborzlsbenni6954
@zborzlsbenni6954 5 жыл бұрын
@@Deepak__Mehta Then it wouldn't make sense, many of Tolkiens Dragons could speak, but none of Martins. So it wouldn't make that much sense if one could talk but not the others
@lordofbamfs-3941
@lordofbamfs-3941 4 жыл бұрын
Tolkien’s dragons are ALL vastly more powerful and intelligent. In the Silmarillion the largest dragon that existed flattened three Mt Everests. Yes, it was that fricking huge. The progenitor while it couldn’t fly could talk, had psychic powers, played mind games like Hannibal Lecter, could breathe poison, and aside from a soft underbelly was considered invincible. There’s a reason GRRM respects Prof Tolkien.
@heythere6405
@heythere6405 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deepak__Mehta yeah what if grrm ruined his series so his imaginary dragon could defeat another imaginary dragon in an imaginary battle... lol
@Deepak__Mehta
@Deepak__Mehta 3 жыл бұрын
@@heythere6405 😂😂
@ilikenougat8892
@ilikenougat8892 5 жыл бұрын
"My armor is iron! My teeth are swords! My claws, spears! A strike from my tail- a thunderbolt! My wings are a hurricane! And my breath- DEATH!" -Smaug Drogon: Fucking Christ, dude...
@ismata3274
@ismata3274 3 жыл бұрын
No. Drogon: roar, hrrr, grrrr, hsssssssss.....
@u.v.s.5583
@u.v.s.5583 2 жыл бұрын
Drogon: nothing personal against you bro but listen, if mom says dracarys, bro, I don't care about your health insurance, you are going down.
@HakaiKaien
@HakaiKaien 2 жыл бұрын
Dovakiin: My armor is your mother
@prathamshukla1280
@prathamshukla1280 Жыл бұрын
@@HakaiKaien hahaha!!!
@ladydelphini
@ladydelphini Жыл бұрын
@@HakaiKaien lol
@Jakegothicsnake
@Jakegothicsnake 5 жыл бұрын
J. R. R. Tolkien's dragons- Sentient evil beasts. George R. R. Martin's dragons-Ferocious, fire-breathing animals capable of being tamed and trained to a certain extent.
@Skiriwowi
@Skiriwowi 5 жыл бұрын
basically this
@camerontolley8597
@camerontolley8597 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken there was a point in the first or second age where dragons were rode it the LOTR universe
@leahea4906
@leahea4906 3 жыл бұрын
@@camerontolley8597 Yes but the balrogs were riding the dragons.
@ismata3274
@ismata3274 3 жыл бұрын
One books dragons are the army commanders. Brain jumblers. And all those as basically a big snake, no fire, no flight...... The fire and wing donned ones too were army commanders. Other books dragons are mounts. With benefits, of which none surpass their lotr equivalent. Basically horses. Ever seen a horse commanding an army? Though one was nearly made a senator I believe.
@Ale-dd3ek
@Ale-dd3ek Жыл бұрын
Dark Souls dragons: how does It feels, Seath?
@dodoxasaurus6904
@dodoxasaurus6904 Жыл бұрын
Since Smaug can talk, he could theoretically learn Valerion and talk to Drogon
@TheDarck232
@TheDarck232 5 жыл бұрын
George R. R Martin's dragons vs Ancalagon the Black.
@misterwabbit4690
@misterwabbit4690 5 жыл бұрын
Ancalagon would roast Westerosi dragons for a nighttime kebab snack.
@Jrdn357
@Jrdn357 5 жыл бұрын
If Ancalagon was in the clouds and he sneezed, all of both Westeros AND Essos would be piles of ash.
@benjaminrowley
@benjaminrowley 5 жыл бұрын
Talk about overkill
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 5 жыл бұрын
*Are you trying to watch an extinction?* T__T
@luthor3143
@luthor3143 5 жыл бұрын
Even if it is George R.R. Martin's dragons vs Glaurung... Glaurung can take them all
@sneakygin
@sneakygin 5 жыл бұрын
One Scorpion Arrow can kill a dragon from a song of ice and fire but it takes two black arrows to take down Smaug ( one to damage his scale and one to pierce his flesh) and you have to precisely hit that spot where you removed the part of scale whereas SOIAF dragons can die from a scorpion arrow hitting any vital part of their body.
@vaktmestergorgon8942
@vaktmestergorgon8942 5 жыл бұрын
There's only been one dragon to ever have been killed by a scorpion in the ASOIAF series and it was hit directly in the eye so I doubt that really counts for anything. Especially considering that a scorpion is a fucking ballista, while a black arrow only has to be shot with a bow to actually damage Smaug. I love both series, and Smaug would definitively destroy most of the dragons in ASOIAF, but I think Balerion would beat Smaug.
@theawesomedude20
@theawesomedude20 5 жыл бұрын
You seem to be freely interchanging Game of Thrones (the tv series) and A Song of Ice and Fire (the book series). Only one dragon has been killed by a scorpion bolt in the books, and that was a one in a million shot that pierced its eye. It has been stated multiple times in Fire and Blood that scorpion bolts bounced off the scales of multiple dragons
@sneakygin
@sneakygin 5 жыл бұрын
@@theawesomedude20 I based both on TV series and the movie.
@Ananta9817
@Ananta9817 5 жыл бұрын
Aren't there weaker dragons in LOTR too? Scorpion ballista bolts have to be aimed precisely in the eye, as far as books go. Even in the show, Viserion died getting impaled in the neck while firebreathing. This was probably possible because the White Walkers seem to have monstrous physical strength. Rhaegal was considerably injured from the previous fight. On the other hand, Drogon took a ballista bolt from Bron and only got slightly injured. Balerion is much larger and so is his muscle mass and density, even if the bolts happen to succeed in piercing his skin, they should fail to do anything remotely fatal to a dragon his size.
@sneakygin
@sneakygin 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ananta9817 there is weaker dragons in lotr, i assume. That statement was only based in show dragons and the hobbit movie. In the show dragons are severely injured by a scorpion bolt rhaegal got severly injured after a first shot , rest two made to confirm the kill , even drogon got completely flightless after the first bolt to the sholder by bronn.
@tereza1959
@tereza1959 Жыл бұрын
Smaug has the intelligence of a human with high IQ, he doesn't even need to fight the dragons from GoT, he can just trick and ambush them, the dragons from GoT are just as smart as a dog 😆
@marcospatricio8283
@marcospatricio8283 Жыл бұрын
This. Yeah, he's a bit stronger than Balerion, but in a straight brawl The Dread and Smaug, chances would be 60-40 for Smaug. Thing is... Samug would neve go for a straight brawl.
@jadenmcmillan4306
@jadenmcmillan4306 Жыл бұрын
​@@marcospatricio8283 Balerion is stronger and bigger,he's also much more experienced,smaug isn't that powerful and he's one of the mid dragons,most ASOIAF dragons would trash smaug,they are extremely powerful and destroy most LOTR dragons with only exception being ancalagon
@ryanwalker8843
@ryanwalker8843 Жыл бұрын
@@jadenmcmillan4306... really even in a video where the writer himself says only Balerion is enough to give 'some trouble', you still wanna say this. You are hopeless. You'd argue day is night while it's so bright out you have to wear shades. You are the fantasy fan equivalent of a flat eather. 'Ignore what the creator of a song of ice and fire dragons just said, they win. I know he just said only Balerion is enough to give some trouble and he still dosent know if its enough, but he dosent know anything about his own dragons. I do they are much stronger than the creator says. Even if they do die of old age by 200 and can barley fly around a city twice by that age.' 🤣
@jadenmcmillan4306
@jadenmcmillan4306 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanwalker8843 so u have chosen to argue In the lore dragons in song of ice and fire They are powerful lord of the rings dragons are built for personality while song of ice and fire dragons are built for they're power I know the lore stop acting like I don't
@elbardonegro924
@elbardonegro924 Жыл бұрын
@@jadenmcmillan4306 "I know the lore". Also THE CREATOR knows the lore. And is THE CREATOR the one who says "Yeah, no. My dragons are powerful but no that powerful". Yeh... Even if he had "chosen death", it isn't you who can bring it
@pietro6032
@pietro6032 Жыл бұрын
Smaug wins 100% of the arguments against every GRRM dragons.
@orkaydk9430
@orkaydk9430 Жыл бұрын
yeah, it's like comparing a werewolf to a dog lol
@jakobchristiansson
@jakobchristiansson Жыл бұрын
@Raylan Givens he is in fact the smallest winged dragon in the legendarium. Still large and powerful enough to take Erebor by himself when he was basically a child. Yeah every single dragon in the history of Westeros are pigeons compared to the dragons of middle earth on many different metrics - size, magical abilities, intelligence and durability to name some. Balerion the black dread could fully spread his wings and maybe even fly a little inside Ancalagon the black 😅 that's the size difference we're working with. It's like a human next to a blue whale - we can swim around in their arteries. That's how fucking huge they are 😮
@abdolenecourt
@abdolenecourt Жыл бұрын
Maybe except Balerion… Martin just said
@masterexploder9668
@masterexploder9668 Жыл бұрын
As GRRM admits, he would be pretty biased to wish his own creations would win. Smaug vs Balerion could make for a great fight. We see that Vhagar is like a big flying Godzilla, but doesn't have a sentient intelligence of Smaug. Dragons are clearly capable of some sort of reasoning (dragons seemed to understand Tyrion's story when he was freeing them from captivity), but at the same time they are clearly controlled by animalistic instincts and riders (unless well experienced) will struggle to keep them under control. To compare, Smaug is intelligent, crafty and impossible to kill unless you hit his specific weak spot with help of master archer using a special black arrow (which is somewhat enhanced by magic) or if you bring in some heavy duty ordnance like powerful supernatural beings. I would give it to Smaug, both against Drogon and also Balerion, though the last one would be much more even, unless Smaug prepared a trap or something like that. Maybe charm him with a spell, like Glaurung, though not sure if he was capable of that. Balerion was clearly GRRM's equivalent of Ancalagon the Black of Tolkien universe. In this case, Ancalagon basically eats him the same way Vhagar got rid of poor Arrax. Balerion could swallow mammoths whole, while Ancalagon was a size of a mountain range, as he emerged and could touch all 3 peaks of Thangorodrim (fortress of Morgoth).
@sokratikas
@sokratikas Жыл бұрын
The crazy thing of him crushing the peaks of thangorodrim is the fact that the mountains must have been a few km apart,mf hit the ground with the impact of a nuke
@magne-johannilsen5621
@magne-johannilsen5621 5 жыл бұрын
Smaug would eat Balerion for breakfast, and use Drogon as toothpick. After all, he is in direct line from Glaurung. He is roughly the sise of two jumbojets. :-)
@dumusstarbeiten5063
@dumusstarbeiten5063 5 жыл бұрын
no he isnt, in drawings of tolkien he is 15-20 metres long.
@joelhutchinson8048
@joelhutchinson8048 5 жыл бұрын
Film smaug is, weta digital the creators designed him to be gigantic. 130 meters In length and wingspan.
@TheGrandmaster1
@TheGrandmaster1 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus is Smaug that much of a badass?
@levongrigoryan9834
@levongrigoryan9834 5 жыл бұрын
Allright my friend😀
@theonewhoismany8072
@theonewhoismany8072 5 жыл бұрын
In the atlas of Middle-earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad smaugh is said to be about 18 meters 59 feet while Balerion is from what I found 76 meters /249.343 feet long and 180 meters /590 feet wide. He is way bigger than smaugh but smaugh has the advantage of his intelect and cunning and the fact that he can use magic.
@kevinboudreaux7860
@kevinboudreaux7860 Жыл бұрын
Smaug smashes right through Drogon. Smaug is larger, much more intelligent, and has a way tougher scale armor system to get through. They only killed him by shooting at a gap in his scales on the underside. that armor also gives Smaug the edge over Balerion the Black Dread. Tolkien made his dragons to be almost unstoppable beasts whereas GRRM made his dragons to be actual animals.
@kaoutherguelmame9572
@kaoutherguelmame9572 2 жыл бұрын
Smaug would lure them to his side. Just imagine dragons fighting for the throne too! Imagine them making alliances with families against other. Plotting and causing troubles. That's would've been GREAT
@SuperGman117
@SuperGman117 Жыл бұрын
Imagine Smaug as the immortal Dragon-God-King of Westeros.
@jakobchristiansson
@jakobchristiansson Жыл бұрын
Why would they ever need to make any alliances with people? It wouldn't be a fight - it would be a slaughter with little to no human survivors. No plots needed. Just a "lets fly guys" and every person is a pile of ash within a week. Hell Smaug isn't even needed.. You saw how Drogon completely annihalated the entirety of Kings Landing by himself in a couple of hours. They didn't stand a chance.. And he is both smaller, dumber and much easier to kill than Smaug. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel to them 😅
@war_designer8763
@war_designer8763 Жыл бұрын
Smaug vs Balerion be like Smaug: *let me tell you something*
@johnolson9793
@johnolson9793 5 жыл бұрын
lotr dragons have stonger scales. almost impenetrable. GOT dragons can be damaged my regular arrows.
@dumusstarbeiten5063
@dumusstarbeiten5063 5 жыл бұрын
even tough you are right, regular arrows cant hurt westerosi dragons, you even can see arrows bouncing off their scales, the thing that penetrated was an ballista bolt.
@TheGrandmaster1
@TheGrandmaster1 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, during the gold train massacre, lots of archers shot arrows at Drogon and they just bounced off of him. But...stinger, or scorpion, or whatever it's called, the one that shoots those big person sized bolts....those go through dragons like a knife through butter. So GoT dragons are pretty flimsy to serious penetrative attacks.
@xxMyNaMeIsBeAsTxx
@xxMyNaMeIsBeAsTxx 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGrandmaster1 It depends on the size, the bigger the dragon, the thicker the scales. A big guy like Drogon could easily tank arrows, as we see in the show, but a smaller dragon could probably be wounded by regular arrows. They are not born with vibranium scales or anything
@constantindenis8130
@constantindenis8130 4 жыл бұрын
Cause the show's retarded.
@rohit_7777
@rohit_7777 3 жыл бұрын
Bro ur soo wrong
@Danny2113182
@Danny2113182 Жыл бұрын
If you want to picture how the fight would go down, just look at the clip of Vhagar(Smaug) eating Arrax(Drogon).
@allaindb1944
@allaindb1944 Жыл бұрын
smaug wins easy, and that says a lot considering that in tolkiens work, smaug is a butterfly compared to dragons that lived in the first age (glaurung, ancalagon)
@theodosissarmadakis913
@theodosissarmadakis913 Жыл бұрын
I respect martin for not trashtalking Tolkien's work like other times for example how Gandalf should have stayed dead. He simply acknowledged that his dragons are just huge weapons and not intelligent creatures like middle earth's dragons. Good for you Martin you earned my respect. Now finish asoiaf so we can have a proper closure
@Chu9947
@Chu9947 Жыл бұрын
He never "trashtalked" tolkien. we all have things we like and dislike about the books we love. He loves gandalf the grey more than galdalf the white. he loves aragorn as ranger more than aragorn in the later books. George has said Gandalf dying was hugh influences for him to raise the stacks in asoiaf and potentially kill even the main character. Some of the fans take his comment out of context to make him out like a tolkein hater. click bait headlines and youtube titles like those get more views. if you watch more of his interviews you would realise he is the one of the biggest tolkein admirers. George famously said "They can keep their heaven. When I die, I’d sooner go to middle Earth."
@nathanjangs
@nathanjangs 3 жыл бұрын
If Smaug was in Game of Throne, then the Iron bank is no longer safe as this is where they keep all their gold and smaug loves gold. Rendering the Lannister to be broke and without gold to pay their army and the Golden company. He may be smart to speak in the language of Valyeria, but that just a speculation. But I don't know about if Smaug can defeat the Night King, but he is strong enough to lay waste of Westeros, Essos as long he sees them as a threat to steal his gold.
@alexanderthegreat913
@alexanderthegreat913 5 жыл бұрын
Alduin the World Eater (I don’t like Elder Scrolls but I’m being fair) Analcagon the Black Balerion/ Smaug joint place All other Dragons.
@the.orthodox.photographer2272
@the.orthodox.photographer2272 5 жыл бұрын
What's not to like about The Elder Scrolls?
@ismata3274
@ismata3274 3 жыл бұрын
How about Dragonball s dragon? No idea about its name, but if it a god, that might be unfair.
@hansmuller1809
@hansmuller1809 3 жыл бұрын
@@ismata3274 His name is super shenron. However, he is just there to grant a wish.
@ismata3274
@ismata3274 3 жыл бұрын
@@hansmuller1809 thank you😊👍. And to be able to grant any random wish sounds terribly powerful. That's near unlimited (by wishers imagination only)
@hansmuller1809
@hansmuller1809 3 жыл бұрын
@@ismata3274 Yes...I mean, he can even destroy multiple universes if this is the wish. However, i think it is unfair to treat him like a dragon. He is more like a plot device, not a character.
@swhite7929
@swhite7929 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Ancalagon would like... eat Balerion. It would genuinely be pretty fun to see a bunch of Tolkien's dragons taking on GRRM's.
@stuff7664
@stuff7664 5 жыл бұрын
You are forgetting Ancalagon, that thing could take down an army of dragons
@architius
@architius Жыл бұрын
Ancalogon could probably solo the entire verse minus maybe godly beings(if there are any)
@maxkogan3785
@maxkogan3785 Жыл бұрын
Ancalagon would probably conquer the Westeros and Essteros
@purusingh6085
@purusingh6085 Жыл бұрын
@@maxkogan3785* essos
@Helbore
@Helbore Жыл бұрын
@@maxkogan3785 Ancalagon could flatten both continents by simply landing on them.
@AlyssMa7rin
@AlyssMa7rin Жыл бұрын
Imagine Aegon the Conqueror astride Ancalagon He becomes the Ancestral Dragon of Westeros. Only those worthy to ride him are fit to rule. (In essence, HE rules Westeros)
@kainslegacy78618
@kainslegacy78618 4 жыл бұрын
Also the point that Smaug has impenetrable scales.
@natureboy6268
@natureboy6268 Жыл бұрын
Would be so interesting to have heard Martin and Tolkien ask each other questions about their writings.
@elkaotik6790
@elkaotik6790 Жыл бұрын
@Raylan Givens He would have been disgusted with his work lmao. Not to say that GRRM's work is bad, I love it, just Tolkien is from a different era, with different sensibilities
@SlackersJournal
@SlackersJournal Жыл бұрын
Hey george rr martin is pretty funny. Well im off to watch every interview with him.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
Drogon the dragon. Great writing there George lol.
@Neb-uj4xt
@Neb-uj4xt Жыл бұрын
Well yes but it’s actually Drogo the dothrokai’s fault….wait
@jorvach9874
@jorvach9874 Жыл бұрын
@@Neb-uj4xt I don't know the ASOIAF lore very well, but Drogon is Daenarys' dragon, right? So she named her dragon after her husband? (who died? I think?) That's kinda... sweet I guess. :D
@Amantducafe
@Amantducafe 3 ай бұрын
He is great at naming tho. Drogon is Daenarys being childish, she is after all 13-14 years old and names the dragons after his loved ones Drogon (Her Dothraki husband), Rhaegal (His older brother), and Viserion (His older brother that even as an abuser he was family). Then you get names that are not made by a teenager girl like Baleron, Vhagar, Meraxes, Vermithor, Silverwing, Caraxes, Sunfyre, Dreamfyre, all very cool and original names. Then you get wild Dragons named by the peasants, the simpleminded small folk: The Cannibal, Sheepstealer, Grey Ghost. George's naming convention is solid despite him being repetitive which is not him being lazy but being inspired by real medieval history. THere were dozens of princes in France named Louis just like there are Aegons in his world. Ofcourse, you would know this if you read the books.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 3 ай бұрын
@@Amantducafe if you're going to do that then you need a character to react to it and make fun of the name even if in secret.
@Amantducafe
@Amantducafe 3 ай бұрын
@@purefoldnz3070 pretty sure one of the slavers "chuckles" when she mentions their names. But it's a blink and you miss it from A Storm of Swords iirc. The books are written from POV, so you never know what others are saying in secret, just what they say infront of the POV character and you need to be brave if you are going to mock the mother of dragons about her naming conventions.
@FellowStrangerOfTheWeb
@FellowStrangerOfTheWeb Жыл бұрын
I bet Smaug and Viserys would be best friends, they both like gold! 😃
@Nugnugnug
@Nugnugnug Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, Ancalagon was big enough to swallow Balerion the same way Balerion could swallow a cow. I still have no clue how Earandil killed him, but I doubt it was via means replicable by any being in ASOIAF.
@alextrill5829
@alextrill5829 Жыл бұрын
Probably used the Silmaril, that thing burns evil creatures, even scorched Morgoth's hand beyond repair. So it probably just burnt Ankalagon's skull or heart through.
@the13inquisitor59
@the13inquisitor59 Жыл бұрын
He had a flying ship, a Silmaril and the help of Thorondor, Lord of the Eagles. And every one of the Eagles of the First Age. No actual details of how he managed it are given, besides the battle between Ancalagon and the forces arrayed against him lasted a day and a night before Earendil slew him before dawn.
@johanbarnard3435
@johanbarnard3435 Жыл бұрын
Smaug is a small dragon in Tolkiens world
@burpinglight9415
@burpinglight9415 Жыл бұрын
Smaug could cast a spell on Drogon if he learned Drogon’s name
@sfadasfsfds3208
@sfadasfsfds3208 16 күн бұрын
Smaug shuts up real quick when Elden ring dragons enter the arena
@steelcitysteve8794
@steelcitysteve8794 Жыл бұрын
Smaugs downfall was his unmitigated rage coupled with his arrogance. He sees Bard and knows exactly what he's aiming for but still goes for the kill. Smaug would be bigger stronger and smarter than Drogon by alot. Balerion would be about the same size as Smaug but again intelligence comes into play but Balerion would also have far more combat experience so that fight would be worth seeing.
@ayliastorm9096
@ayliastorm9096 5 жыл бұрын
You forgotten that only a black arrow can Peirce his scales
@AmitThakorlovemeorhateme
@AmitThakorlovemeorhateme 5 жыл бұрын
yew-bow not black arrow
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dragonlover553 Which was originally caused precisely by a Black Arrow, shot by Bard's ancestor. Only he missed so much that he hit Smaug only *once.*
@Dragonlover553
@Dragonlover553 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrDibara Did not know that. Thank you for the information.
@merbuhk
@merbuhk 4 жыл бұрын
Scorpions arrows kinda look the same, if not worse.
@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817
@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817 Жыл бұрын
The arrows can't pierce his scales, they can pierce through the tissue on his underbelly which has no scales protecting it, otherwise he's completely invulnerable, it's a one in a million shot that would have never happened if Smaug was more careful.
@diegocacho3420
@diegocacho3420 4 жыл бұрын
Can you put one about Mr. Martin doing a review about the 80's film "DragonSlayer" and the best dragon in cinema history which Is called: "Vermithrax Perojative".
@yoichiteamZ
@yoichiteamZ Жыл бұрын
Smaug would just tame the lannisters for their gold 😂😂😂
@denniskelly3110
@denniskelly3110 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see Smaug vs Dovahkiin 😁
@ElectronerpProductions
@ElectronerpProductions Жыл бұрын
Do you mean Alduin? Because Smaug could very easily just stomp on or eat the Dragonborn like nothing. Even Alduin would have trouble.
@jorvach9874
@jorvach9874 Жыл бұрын
@@ElectronerpProductions Depends on whether Alduin is in the form we see him in during the game, or if he's in the form he takes when the time comes for him to eat the world, where he becomes absolutely enormous (big enough to literally eat Nirn) and gains the power to match. Regular Alduin would probably struggle against Smaug, but True Form(tm) Alduin could literally swallow him whole. Of course, Elder Scrolls lore being as unreliable and prone to change as it is, it's possible that the "True Form" is just metaphorical, so who knows, really.
@Anonymityfan
@Anonymityfan Жыл бұрын
Ancalogon has entered the chat 😅
@primeministersinister625
@primeministersinister625 Жыл бұрын
Drogon creativity at its finest.
@subworkings1564
@subworkings1564 5 жыл бұрын
Ancalgon got em all beat
@alexhoughton3305
@alexhoughton3305 4 жыл бұрын
Shenron wants to: *_know your location_*
@alexhoughton3305
@alexhoughton3305 3 жыл бұрын
@epileptic zepra that is true Keep in mind, though, Shenron is an immortal, reality-altering being of cosmic power
@Kyle-gu3ge
@Kyle-gu3ge Жыл бұрын
Shall we throw in alduin
@johnnyringo5777
@johnnyringo5777 Жыл бұрын
Dragons in LOTR are very different from most fantasy dragons. They aren't animals, they aren't even great rare animals like the dragons from GOT, they're described as calamities. One dragon can literally destroy a kingdom and turn the tide of a massive war between supernatural beings. The dragons of LOTR were created by Morgoth who is essentially the devil
@rollertoaster
@rollertoaster Жыл бұрын
I like the way he says SMOAWG
@eddydaniels9842
@eddydaniels9842 Жыл бұрын
What about Ancalagon from Middle Earth?
@lagatinga
@lagatinga Жыл бұрын
Got dragons got killed by artillery. Smaug skin is tougher, needed 2 hits on exactly same spot.
@biglocc2209
@biglocc2209 5 күн бұрын
And once valuation takes out Smaug. Ancalagon enters the chat lol
@dotmadhack
@dotmadhack Жыл бұрын
That picture was a wyvern, this isn't even a competition. Smaug has four legs and wings.
@anthonyfernandez9380
@anthonyfernandez9380 15 күн бұрын
Balerion, Vhaegar, and Meraxes maybe and thats a big maybe if they all jumped Smaug at the same time and piled on him and went for the neck.. thats if they could do that though..
@Rafasavi1
@Rafasavi1 Жыл бұрын
We were saying about Drogon and now we have 15 dragons to talk about
@SSJ4Supermanarot
@SSJ4Supermanarot Жыл бұрын
*Lord IO has entered the game*
@ragnar0528
@ragnar0528 3 жыл бұрын
Man Smaug is an Alpha plus genius level IQ who wants to mess with that beast OH and he happens to be a freaking Dragon.
@Landis963
@Landis963 Жыл бұрын
Now, Vhagar, or Balerion, or any of the other heavyweights the Targaryens can field... that might be a closer matchup. (It still probably goes to Smaug because of the intelligence angle, though)
@Latenivenatrix_Mcmasterae
@Latenivenatrix_Mcmasterae 3 жыл бұрын
I’m betting on the dragon from shrek
@big_sexy123
@big_sexy123 4 жыл бұрын
Belarion, the black dred vs Acnalogia, the harbinger of the apocalypse
@The_Story_Of_Us
@The_Story_Of_Us Жыл бұрын
*Ancalagon the Black has entered the chat*
@burkesullivan9086
@burkesullivan9086 5 жыл бұрын
Huh... I always pictured him as a baritone
@kanon1118
@kanon1118 4 жыл бұрын
Smaug would eat drogon alive, and would still be hungry... smaug vs the 3 dragons Dany had, now that's a meal worthy of the Smaug the Stupendous
@elyastoohey6621
@elyastoohey6621 Жыл бұрын
Literally answered it how I would have. Drogon gets stomped. Balerion was trained as a war dragon, and engaged in at least one dance, that against Quicksilver. where Smaug is intelligent and cunning Balerion is brutal and a beast. That would be a cooler fight. But remember, GRRM's dragons are very different to TOlkiens which are based more off of Norse and Brythonic dragons. GRRM's dragons arguably aren't natural, but created artificially by sorcerers and have since become species. Their mating habits and hatching habits are considered a mystery. Its unknown truly how much they bother to care for their own young, and its even speculated quite a few dragons kill their own young as their young get older. Classical dragons are these wizened old beasts of immense power, but are very lazy. It's one of the beauties of George's writing. He plays with two phiosophical concepts often. Identity and materialism. Despite consant references to the gods in Asoiaf, there is honestly very little proof for any of thsoe gods. But we do have A LOT of proof of magic being used to effect our material world, and being used to attain power. The beauty of ASOIAF is it is so material.
@opper4325
@opper4325 Жыл бұрын
The ancalagon comes in and balerion runs into hiding
@muhtasimmahin5057
@muhtasimmahin5057 Жыл бұрын
How about balerion vs ancalagon.
@vegvisir9276
@vegvisir9276 Жыл бұрын
Balerion would become Ancalagons toothpick
@littylitz2340
@littylitz2340 Жыл бұрын
Try placidusax vs Smaug
@CaptainDV
@CaptainDV Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see any of the dragons from Game of Thrones go up against ancaligon on the black.
@JoseMartinez-ig4lx
@JoseMartinez-ig4lx 11 күн бұрын
Balerion would be a tic-tac for Ancalagon to munch on.
@CaptainDV
@CaptainDV 11 күн бұрын
@@JoseMartinez-ig4lx yup
@RenaissanceM
@RenaissanceM 2 жыл бұрын
A better question I feel is after enough time will the Dragons of a Song of Ice and Fire also be able to speak? It is said they are even more intelligent than humans. Give ‘em a thousand years, would they learn to speak like Smaug?
@Yehoshua66
@Yehoshua66 Жыл бұрын
They’d need the biological capacity to form language with their mouths and breath. You never know but I find it unlikely if they never display “baby level talk” when they’re young
@finq0997
@finq0997 Жыл бұрын
I know that we are discussing whether or not it's possible that non-existing being could talk, but hear me out. No, they can't. Their vocal chords are not designed or developed to for complex words, even if their intellect would be high enough to come up with a language, they would have no way to voice their words. A metal vocal coach has explained in one (or several of his videos) how to access your "dumb"/less developed false chords to produce essentially inhuman noises. These underdeveloped vocal chords are all that most animals have. So I think it's fairly safe to say that for most animals or creatures, it is not just a matter of intelligence, intellect or learning, but a matter of being physically incapable of communicating through complex language.
@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817
@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817 Жыл бұрын
They can't live that long, Balerion got to about 200 years old before he became weak and fragile and died of old age.
@simulterious9767
@simulterious9767 Жыл бұрын
Probably not, dragons in Tolkien's world were magical beings that had these abilities from birth - if they were born
@juliandacosta6841
@juliandacosta6841 Жыл бұрын
They could probably write
@Savior-ml4pq
@Savior-ml4pq Жыл бұрын
Ned stark vs boromir??
@arwinkappl8980
@arwinkappl8980 Жыл бұрын
Smaug: Gigantic, flying, highly intelligent, magic, firebreathing tank Drogon: Flying car with lightning function😂
@supremophm9910
@supremophm9910 Жыл бұрын
What about Balerion vs Ancalagon?
@rdm9991
@rdm9991 Жыл бұрын
Ancalagon was the trump card of Morgoth against the Valars and their army. It took the power of a Silmaril to kill him and his fall destroyed the three peaks of Thangorodrim. Despite all we know and all the speculations regarding his size Tolkien himself wrote about him that Ancalagon size was:"As tall as a mountain". Sooo Balerion would never stand a chance, not even taking all the dragons of GoT universe against him would give yourself a different result.
@professorx3060
@professorx3060 Жыл бұрын
@@rdm9991 Earendil killed Ancalagon by using Silmaril for an entire day. And he was in a flying boat surrounded by Thorondor and great eagles. Balerion has no such feats.
@1rishpotat0
@1rishpotat0 Жыл бұрын
Ok but for real now, a DRAGON named DROGON?! Are you absolutely kidding me?!
@pedroteixeira7595
@pedroteixeira7595 Жыл бұрын
Its named after a character named drogo
@1rishpotat0
@1rishpotat0 Жыл бұрын
@@pedroteixeira7595 Yes I realize that, but I mean come on. Might as well have called him Drago and the dragon Dragon LOL
@glydoughnut9432
@glydoughnut9432 3 жыл бұрын
How is it supposed to be announced? “Smog” or “Sma Oog”
@JoseMartinez-ig4lx
@JoseMartinez-ig4lx 11 күн бұрын
Odahviing v Smaug?
@BaronPorkface
@BaronPorkface Жыл бұрын
Smaug is an ancient evil and Drogon is a big flying dog.
@howarddewing6617
@howarddewing6617 Жыл бұрын
I'm not going to say the creator of a character is wrong about their capabilities, however I don't think it's as simple as he makes it out to be. Call me out if i get anything wrong. Going off of show drogon and source material smaug, there's an important thing about drogon that's worth talking about. Dragons in asoiaf are completely immune to the effects of heat and fire while they are alive, and asoiaf dragonfire seems *deeply* magical in a number of ways. Smaug's fire breath--while incredibly hot--doesn't seem to have any effects that would negate drogon's fire immunity. Dragonfire in asoiaf has very interesting effects on different things, and it seems that drogon can control the effects his fire has. In the show we can see baby drogon cooking and eating bits of meat, his fire doesn't ignite the flesh, just chars it like conventional fire would. In another scene where baby drogon kills the sorcerer, his fire is shown to easily ignite flesh, spreading over and completely incinerating flesh and bone with bone with *unreasonable* efficiency. It seems chemically impossible how quickly drogon's fire turns people into pure white ash. The capacity for his dragonfire to either cook meat or completely incinerate it over similar time frames with no change in the color or amount of fire used is demonstrated time and time again in the show and implies a magical effect drogon is capable of controling. Dragonfire also has the ability to enchant steel and give it supernatural properties. Smaug is much larger, stronger, smarter, and more durable than drogon while also being immune to conventional fire. Smaug would certainly kill drogon assuming he could engage with him physically and avoid his main weapon. The question is then, how would smaug deal with drogon's magic super fire? Would he be outright immune? Smaug is shown to be vulnerable to magic arrows, is he vulnerable to drogon's magic fire?
@juliandacosta6841
@juliandacosta6841 Жыл бұрын
The place that Smaug would be vulnerable to fire is his treasure covered belly. Drogon could melt it and attack that part if he's smart enough
@bilalkhares4932
@bilalkhares4932 Жыл бұрын
Ancalagon has entered the chat
@mpost3520
@mpost3520 Жыл бұрын
Smaug: "oh hello brother! How fare the mighty Drogon?" Drogon: .... Smaug: "why do you not speak? .........oh wait, i forgot im a talking dragon.
@levongevorgyan6789
@levongevorgyan6789 Жыл бұрын
I think all of the dragons of Tolkien could speak. Glaurung was their father, and he definetly could speak.
@djoewrigh
@djoewrigh 16 күн бұрын
Drogon vs vehgar who would win
@salgutierrez4710
@salgutierrez4710 Жыл бұрын
Smaug vs Nicol Bolas
@FlowersForAlgernon.
@FlowersForAlgernon. 4 ай бұрын
George R R Martin, basically just Said Smaug, the SMALLEST dragon in middle Earth, is about the equivalent of ,Balerion, the BIGGEST dragon in Westeros. Acalagon would have been a fucking beast in comparison jfc.
@yaboyed5779
@yaboyed5779 4 жыл бұрын
Smaug makes drogon a lizard with wings
@theelectricprince8231
@theelectricprince8231 Жыл бұрын
"Smaug can talk"
@feliperivas3814
@feliperivas3814 Жыл бұрын
GOT season 8 writers vs Smaug would be interesting.
@trinstonmichaels7062
@trinstonmichaels7062 Жыл бұрын
Trinston was here.
@florinbazdragan4409
@florinbazdragan4409 5 жыл бұрын
But who wins between balerion and alcalgon?
@frederikl.1642
@frederikl.1642 5 жыл бұрын
Considering Ancalagon was roughly the size of Manhattan, I'd say he wouldn't have any trouble.
@diegoolivaresgonzalez42
@diegoolivaresgonzalez42 5 жыл бұрын
@@frederikl.1642 That is not true, Ancalagon destroyed three towers of volcanic cynder... and that is the only data about.it's size that is given in the books.
@diegoolivaresgonzalez42
@diegoolivaresgonzalez42 5 жыл бұрын
And Smaug is very small his head had Bilbo's size( in the books)
@frederikl.1642
@frederikl.1642 5 жыл бұрын
+Diego Olivares Gonzalez Yes, he destroyed those three towers. They were, however, miles apart. Even the most conservative estimate of Ancalogon based on that information would absolutely dwarf Balerion. Also, Tolkien himself has noted that the sketching he drew up of Smaug portrayed Bilbo way out of proportion, because on a realistic scale, Bilbo would have been too tiny and very easy to overlook. I think Peter Jackson's version is pretty much what Tolkien imagined in terms of Smaug's size.
@BrianSmith-jx7td
@BrianSmith-jx7td 5 жыл бұрын
Ancalagon is probably the most badass dragon in existence balerion would be like a pinky toe in comparison to size
@cobaltprime9467
@cobaltprime9467 Жыл бұрын
Drogon is like pitting a kitten against a tiger.
@daredevil3979
@daredevil3979 5 жыл бұрын
Smaug V Balerion would be fair
@JoseR1207
@JoseR1207 Жыл бұрын
Smaug would wins, Unless Drogon was much Older or instead of Drogon, it was Balerion.
@born2biscuit
@born2biscuit Жыл бұрын
smaug is much smaller in the books he must be thinking about the movie smaug
@James-kv3ll
@James-kv3ll Жыл бұрын
Can’t Smaug use magic as well?
@charalamboscharalambous165
@charalamboscharalambous165 Жыл бұрын
The only dragon to poses any supernatural abilities akin to magic was Glaurung the first dragon
@ilikenougat8892
@ilikenougat8892 5 жыл бұрын
Ancalagon the Black vs Balerion?
@akeelbrown7675
@akeelbrown7675 5 жыл бұрын
Is this a joke? Ancalagon would shatter balerion into a million pieces by simply flapping his wings.. he wouldn't even have known balerion existed.
@Malthizar
@Malthizar 4 жыл бұрын
Put it like this. Balerion is to Ancalagon what Rhaegol is to Smaug.
@ilikenougat8892
@ilikenougat8892 3 жыл бұрын
@@akeelbrown7675 Absolutely. Ancalagon shattered mountains by falling
@kshitijgautam00
@kshitijgautam00 3 жыл бұрын
Well in case of ballerion he should fight with ancalagon the black
@UPPSCGOAL
@UPPSCGOAL Жыл бұрын
then wat about Ancalagon the Black...even Balerion was like a toothpick for him
@notcats2139
@notcats2139 Жыл бұрын
It's like comparing a garden snake to a crocodile, their just too big to compare one another
@patrickriek4281
@patrickriek4281 2 жыл бұрын
*laughs in WORORORORO
@Santagmk0
@Santagmk0 3 жыл бұрын
But godzilla enters the fight Smaug and drogon: noooooope
@SwabcraftCreates
@SwabcraftCreates Жыл бұрын
Smaug had one weakness, he was the villain of a children's book. That is why a single lucky, if fate blessed, arrow was able to kill him and why in a hundred years he never re-grew the old scale on his chest. Even Ancalon the Black had a similar narrative need to be beaten, so magic space flying ship. Suspend the need for evil to be defeated, Smaug would obviously beat Drogon. He is probably the size of The Black Dread, but smarter, and his breathe might have been strong enough to melt rings of power. Which if it could, would defeat Balerion's harronhall destroying breathe. The fight could end 3 ways. 1. Smaug defends from the lonely mountain and beats Balerion in a beam struggle. 2. Balerion is instructed by Aegon to collapse the mountain trapping Smaug forevermore. 3. Battle in the air where both mortally wound each other. Smaug does not heal a missing scale after a century, and Balerion died of a wound from some beast in the doom.
@bicarasebelumberpikir3866
@bicarasebelumberpikir3866 5 жыл бұрын
Balerion Will did
@Vergil_Sparda98
@Vergil_Sparda98 Жыл бұрын
i like to imagine if smaug and Drogon meet face to face, what would Smaug's reaction be? Would he feel disgust that such a simple beast minded monster with wings is thought of as the same species as him? What will he do when he finds out that a monster that people think of as a dragon isnt even capable of having a proper conversation. Same thing if an alien comes and calls us literal chimps and see us as chimps.
@hailkingcerion800
@hailkingcerion800 Жыл бұрын
Smaug: Dahaeras Balerion! Lykiri! Balerion:👁👄👁⁉
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 Жыл бұрын
Since Smaug is intelligent, I'm picturing him having GOT dragons as pets 🤣
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