I can not hear D and D talk without hearing him say that "Danny forgot about the Iron Fleet."

Oh, David and Dan are in this one...

What a perfect summation of Game of Thrones in general. GRR Martin giving detailed and interesting descriptions of the world he created, and D & D chiming in with basic, and sometimes redundant, snippets.

This video would be better if D&D werent in it

Lol George says some divine amazing intellectual fantasy science that he created and then D & D say something that sounds insignificant and so dumbed down compared to Martin's love and complexity within the gods and history of Westeros

I would love to learn more about the Valyrian and Ghiscari gods

It,s like he ie talking about a real world thing in a documentary.

D&D: "he was like a Savior Figure" GRRM: "he was the Promised Prince, the Prophetic..."

Of course, since book 5 we know that the weirwood trees aren't just the symbols of the Old gods, but rather it seems like they ARE the gods. A telepathic organism that is able to absorb the consciousnesses of all the dead Children of the forest into one gigantic hivemind. Read GRRM's short story "A Song For Lya" if you want to see one of his earliest explorations of this concept. And also the short stories"Men of Greywater station" and "And Seven Times Never Kill Man!" if you want to get a clue of where George might be going with this idea in future books...

GRRM: *explaining* D&D: "It's a tough place and it's a tough religion" Me, a victim: 🗡🙂

Why couldn't you cut the Dumb and Dumber segments????? It would have been so much better without them soiling the sacred words of George

Oh god please don't have any footage of Dan and David in these clips.

They didn't mention the storm god from the books. He who brought down the castles that preceded the Storm's End and who, in the books, is said to be the enemy of the drowned god.

"its time for a new bird, ser davos. a red bird."

The author being very well-spoken and articulate, then come Gog and Magog: "It'S ToUgH place Tough ReLiGI0n"

1:04 gee thanks for the input showslayer

D&D didnt sound like they had much confidence in their understanding of all(the) gods.

You notice how Martin is the one doing the talking? But they have to include D&D repeating things they've been told to make it seem like they know what they're talking about.

I hate how george created this beautiful world and trusted D&D to take it ahead but they betrayed him and ruined the whole storyline... :(((((

The thing that jumps out at me is that he says "various nonhuman races," when describing Westeros' first masters. *Various.* I think that's meaningful. I think that says something very important about the Others. Assuming the Children count as one race, and the giants another, that would be only two. Maybe its pedantic, but I wouldn't use the word various to describe a group of two. Maybe the White Walkers were one of the other races. Maybe the others have been destroyed and forgotten - probably by either the Others during the Long Night, or the Children themselves long before.

I cracked up at 1:03 when D chimes in saying the most basic reiteration of what George just explained in detail, and was promptly cut off X'D

English is not my mother tongue, but listening to this interview to Martin and D&D I can tell the difference between somebody that has very high communication skills and somebody else that has not :D G.R.R. is a great writer and communicator

check out the panel with Michelle fairly where he states that no God has taken stage and he even implies that there aren't any gods in the story

George put so much into this world. He has a story to tell anywhere. If he were to just close his eyes and chuck a dart at a map, where it would strike has a story to be told. Just by ASOIAF and what little history he’s revealed the stories would without a doubt be very compelling. Awesome world building. The shadowlands and ulthos I’m particularly interested in.

I love seeing what people can come up with using their imagination--Martin is one of the best.

I hope he drops winds this yr

D&d didn't understand any of this story. It's like a kid explaining fantasy to a grandparent and the old person reciting what they heard but getting it mixed up.

I love how few words D&D are saying

Man the world building in this series is outstanding.

"Melisandre has powers granted to her by a divine being" is that confirmed though, do we know that she's backed by a literal God? Maybe it's just ancient magic integrated into a religion

So much lore and backstory and double d still manage to screw it up

wow.George created a truly immersive world and i do hope he gets to finish the series

I can't get over how detailed Martin's universe is. He truly is the Tolkien of our modern time.

His World is so incredibly lived in and fully realized . It’s really quite something.

i can listen to george talk about his works all day

Dude your channel is awesome. I love this.

Just watched the full series....know watching them again with a little bit more understanding....brilliant....hoping for more from his writings

Every time you hear D and D speak you lose ten brain cells.

You know all the stuff they cut out of Martin's interview is where all the interesting nuggets were. This is basically a description of the plot at a 1st grade level. The Davids seem proud of their ability to barely state the simplest of facts about Westeros, gems like "The Seven gods are seen to be seven facets of The One God" and "he's saying I'm not a Stark, and he's going back to The Drowned God."

Am I the only one who looks at Melissandra and sees Hatsumomo from Memoirs of a Geisha? Not in portrayal but in the way she cuts her eyes at people and in her movements.

Carice Van Houten is sooooo freaking beautiful!!!!!!!

has anyone even bothered to rewatch the series ever since it ended rofl d&d shouldve given the show over to people who cared

Great transitions

I wonder why does he never speaks about the Valyrian gods. I really wish to know like everything about them. Hopefully, he will talk about that someday.

Why didn't the show do Stannis's glowing sword? If you can CGI a f'ing dragon you can cgi lightbringer.

before you find out all the gods are just one god playing all the sides and trolling westeros

Personally I believe the Lord of Light is a real God in the GOT universe, but I think the Old Gods May exist as well, everyone who has insulted them or left them has faced terrible fates, Theon losing his manhood and being tortured, Drogo insulted them and in his hubris was killed, that’s just me though

Fascinating how it went from worshipping nature (shintoism ?) to some kind of Greek/Roman religion with several gods and their own roles and in the end welcome something such as monotheism that we mostly get now with the lord of light, GRRM really knows how to make parallels with our own history

My spine cringed when dans face came out. Hopefully everyone hates them forever

Religions and mythology are my absolute favorite part of world building

It's a shame they didn't mention Sallador Saan's "one true god"

does anyone know where to find the full interview?

I love how unlike Tolkiens Legendarium the mythological aspect of ASOIAF is left more ambiguous and up to interpretation of what is real, who is the true divine power, and who is a servant of The Great Other.

Someone told me that the Old Gods believe the Sun is the eye of a giant. I wonder if that's George's way of adding himself into the story.

I would like to know how much impact The Lord of Light has in Essos, more than Westeros I know but...

Im rewatching GOT again, but I cannot watch in the same way as i watched it before i watched season 8... i wish i never watched season 8

As Martin himself is explaining the mythology, why even have those who crippled his vision explaining stuff?

The writing was strong then.

Okay I didn't know the Septas were clergy, I thought they were nuns. So a Septa could also have a sept and congressional members they guide, and can preach and teach?

Like our Universe has only one God (Creator, who is outside the Universe), the “Ice&Fire”-universe has its own one and only god-creator who is outside this universe. Yes, It's GRRM. All the other so called “gods” in this universe, the seven, the old gods, the drowned god and so on, aren’t real gods as they are part of this universe and have not created it, like our old “gods” Zeus, Poseidon or Thor.

I miss te good ol days of season 1-5

That magic number 7 up the 33 with Lucy to the one eyed raven.

If anyone has lightbringer it's Beric Dondarrion. he's a follower of the lord of the light... been brought back 6+ times, and he uses his blood to flame up a sword not sticking it in fire to catch fire..

When is the Winds of Winter coming out?

Love your videos, would love them even more if you left D and D OUT of them!

All these clips of GRRM discussing his ASOIAF have me longing to finally read the GoT 📚...

D&D sound like they’re asking a question with every statement they make. Did these dudes even read the books?

A beautiful coincidence is that Stannis swords name 'Lightbringer' sounds eerily like 'Leidbringer' which in german means the "bringer of suffering/pain/grief". I always found that to be very fitting abiguity.

They forgot Arya, the faceless men and the god of death. Just like Danny forgot about the iron fleet!

One of the best parts of this world is that none of the gods are confirmed to be real or fake. Things happen that can't be explained, but the gods will never make an actual appearance in the story. Very realistic when it comes to world building.

Where do you see the picture that's shown in the thumbnail? Just want to know who that artist is so I can support him/her.

Did anyone else cringe every time dan and dave popped up and spoke?

What is dead may never die.

Please keep Dumb and Dumber out of these fun interviews :')

This is so painful to watch. George in the books has created these religions that feel alive and real while D&D didn't know what to do with them. Just for context on how the religion feels in the book: -The Old gods are scary, they are creepy and a constant reminder of mortality. It is such a strange religion that south of the "Neck" only few lords still workship them like the Blackwoods in Raventree Hall. Their faces carved in ancient times bleed with red sap like blood and they are full of magic energy. Most lords in the north have a "godswood" were a weirwood tree stands tall. But one of the most mysterious places is actually down south in the God's Eye a lake next to Harrenhall there is a Isle called "Isle of faces", a place said to be full of weirwood trees and magical creaures, where the first men made peace with the children of the forrest. A place no one can sail towards because the water currents and crows will attack anyone that approaches. (They are completely forgotten in the TV show) -The Faith of the Seven is what Catholicism was to medieval Kingdoms of Europe. A very centralized, organized and powerful institution that operated next but also independent from the nobility, a religion that gives legitimacy to all Andal rulers south of the Neck. Their original seat is in Old Town, the Starry sept with its High Septon/Pope who is elected and seen as the absolute authority in all religious matters. But just like Catholicism many heretical and fanatical movements would sprout from time to time some from small folk other from noble houses that would challenge any affront to the gods, Maegor Targaryen entire rule was just a total war against the faith and some of their most vocal and charismatic preachers can come from humble origins and rally people into fanatical rage so intoxicating they would gladly give their lives to the stranger. (This is why something as moronic as blowing the sept and killing the pope would be political suicide which the TV show ignored). -The Drown God, oh boy i could spend entire pages describing how mysterious and fascinating this religion is but just to summarize they are inspired by H.P Lovecraft. The original workshipers are considered also to be an entire species that lives underwater and build their thrones with black oily stone. Said black oily stone is also seen in places that don't make sense like Old Town, Yeem, Asshai, Isle of Toads all these places are separated by days if not months or years of travel and yet they share this same black oily stone in their buildings. Their finger prints are everywhere and some fear that Euron Grayjoy himself has discovered their secrets and wants to bring back krakens through blood sacrifice and even turn himself into a living god that will drown the world with a watery apocalypse. Plus a fool named Patchface is considered by many as the unwilling prophet of the Drown god. (All of this completely and totally forgotten in the TV show) -The Red God, the Lord of Light, the Heart of Fire, and the God of Flame and Shadow. This religion is just George giving an entire new meaning to world building because it comes with stories and prophecies from the white walkers to the long night, to the prince that was promised. A religion that has objectively demostrated to bring the dead back to life for "The night is dark and full of terrors". No more can be said for many of its priest are mysterious and even they don't understand the visions and prophecies they are being shown by their god. (This was also used and discarded in the TV show) -And many, many other less known religions like the Many-Faced God "Valar Morghulis", the Valyrian and their old gods that allow them to dominate dragons, the Empire of Yi Ti that has a living God-Emperor or some mysterious islands that are told to have statues of old ancient gods asleep waiting to be awakened heck even the White Walkers are seen as some form of gods/nature made flesh... and everything was runied in the show....

That whistle when he pronounces his S is takin me out

I want a series on the 1st men

The Many faced God

Anyone else notice that three of the main religions of this ‘verse are similar in different ways to Christianity and adjacent religions? The Seven could be seen as analogous to the Holy Trinity, the Lord of Light “casts a shadow” which created another god that he’s at war with (God and Satan), the Drowned God was a sacrifice (like Jesus) and the religion itself has baptism.

Can't wait to see him talk about the soon to be released winds of winter in 2036.

So that's where the phrase "What is dead may never die" comes from.. They we're drowned/died once and came back to life

Imagine how good would GOT had been if underneath the political schemes and main story, the gods were the drivers of the plot and the ones manipulating everything? Like the old gods could have sent the Night King to reclaim nature from men who had changed their fate and pushed away the children of the forest, the seven trying to maintain people in their faith just played with those who were part of the wheel, and the lord of light wanted to conquer the one place didn't belonged to him (Westeros) by using people as long as they had a purpose

4:20 damphair would never have NOT drowned theon (or anyone for that matter) when they're right on the beach.

5:16 wouldn’t have expected her to say anything else

the wars will be so epic if Tywin and Margery still alive, Jon know the truth about himself from the begining, and Littlefinger be Lord of Vale

please do many faced gods

What if civilization ends in a nuclear war and we find these books in 1000 years and believe that it's actual historical record and worship these gods?

The closest thing to Gods on Earth were the Targaryens and their dragons.

This is metaphorical to the actual evolution of religions in our world. The first religions were animistic, worshipped the forces of nature (pagans). Somw thousand yrs ago came the Polytheistic religions, Hinduism, jainism, buddhism, etc. Finally, the youngest and the most violent religions, the monotheistic ones: Judaism, Christianity and Islam

Ballon Greyjoy is like an amphibious Walder Frey

I was waiting for a comment on the many face god, if he is all the other gods combined or if he is just the stranger god

it's funny watching D&D talk, as if they understand Game of Thrones

If I could ask Him one question it would be why are the Seven the only religion to have no magic? The Old Gods have magic, the Lord of Light has magic, the Drowned God seems to have some form of weird magic. Why don’t the Seven have something magical?

ONE GOD ONE REALM ONE KING !!

What if the Nightking is connected to the Great Other the rival of R'hllor? "The night is dark and full of terrors", could be a reference to the long night. Also the involvement of Mellisandre and the fact that R'hllor gave her the power to support the defense of Winterfell could be hint. It seems that R'hllor is the only deity who is 100% real and has supernatural power, so maybe the source of the Night King's supernatural powers is the Great Other. On the other hand the Nightking was created by the children of the forest, but i guess this theory isn't relevant for the show anymore.

What about the many-faced god? He is also sometimes referred to as "The Red God" I think, so is he actually The Lord of Light? One and the same?

I love how they decided to include only one sentence from the interview with actress playing melisandre and it sounds as if she’s an actual follower of this fire religion

Seven hells!

George please do some writing tonight.

Thanks to GRRM, Dan & Dave for bringing us a magnificent story and the best TV series ever. Wonderful work 👏