YOU MUST BUY METABO!!

makita test ?

Could you please test metabo tools with the 10 Amp battery and also show the difference between the LI-HD and Li-Power? Those newer LI-HD are ridiculously expensive, but they also claiming that they are about 65%better...

Can we get the Flex Angle Grinder comparison please? Thanks TTC!

i thing a test of a festool ginder can be interresting.

didnt know that was a thing...about time

@@T0tenkampf Bosch has also started such an alliance (Power for all Alliance) a few years ago.

What brands are included there then?

Fein, stupidly, went with Bosch batteries. CAS has many top tier and narrowly specialized manufacturers like Mafell, Lamello, Eibenstock etc.

If they are 18v which they pretty much all seem to be, cheap adapters exist to fit e.g. bosch batteries on makita tools and vice versa

they are really expensive 285€ just for a battery....

The thing with the CAS is, that the CAS System is not supportet in the USA, it only is in Europe. So, while it is written on the battery, there is no CAS Marking on the grinder itself, where it would usually be. You can actually see the square cutout at 4:28, above the battery removal button, it would normally be there. Also, as someone who used to work for Metabo and assemble the grinders, and even the prototypes for the L, LT and LTX models, and also a lot of other Metabo tools, I can tell you, the grinders are made to last, even the older LTX model. Also, if you want to compare the new L model, I would actually suggest to compare it with the old LTX model too, if you can still get it new. Just to see what was "high end class", and what now is the "entry class". At least I think it would be very interesting. Also, I ready some other comments, and someone said, and we saw, that the Metabo doesn´t really vibrate. That is because the rotors are all getting balanced in production. And what also actually helps, is the handle. There is an illness that apparently a lot of construction workers have, that the blood gets vibrated out of the fingers, while using tools, and then you can actually substain nerve damage for example. But I am definetly no doctor. But for the Metabo Handle I know for sure, that it is made, to also dampen the vibrations even more, so you don´t really get problems with this illness. Source for that is actually, that my Dad made the injection mold for the handle. If I may had any grammatical errors or something please bear in mind, that English is not my first language.

​@@AnteFuerstyou could get a CAS Battery from a different Brand tho

​@@Raze2701This is pretty cool. I pull my hat for that. Ja, Metabo baut wirklich tolle Werkzeuge. Wir haben in unserem Handwerksbetrieb zwei Schlagbohrmaschienen von Metabo, und die überleben wirklich alles. Die Makita Akkuschrauber krepieren uns regelmäßig (wegen dem wobbeligen Lager) bei den Fein fliegen uns entweder Getriebe auseinander oder bei der Winkelbohrmaschiene haut das Bohrfutter ab (wenn man es nicht draufschrumpft) aber diese beiden Bohrmaschienen verrichten ihren Dienst seit über 10 Jahren, und der Dienst lautet hauptsächlich 51er bis 95er Löcher mit Lochfräsen durch stark verkleidete Sprinter Fahrzeugböden mit unterfütterten Holzböden zu Bohren. Du kannst dir das benötigte Drehmoment hierzu vorstellen, und auch wie das teils schräge Blech verzahnt und reißt:) Hut ab. Wie lange die das schon mitmachen kann ich nicht sagen, die Bohrmaschienen waren bereits vor mir da.

​@@Raze2701Thanks for the insight. Just a small annotation: you can't just use German commas in English and it makes it quite hard to read.

Looks like as usual we dont get this in the states :(

@@TorqueTestChannel Unless there has been a change, their LTX tools are their top of the line. LTX models have always been available here in the past, I have an older LTX grinder. Probably should be coming soon. I know of some Metabo freaks that have a variety of LTX tools...drills, impact wrench and so on. Once it arrives, it should be readily available wherever other Metabo tools are sold.

Seems like this nasty germans dont want to share their good stuff

have 1.7kw 125 metabo grinder with lots of original attachments this shit is unstoppable like it so much

I have a couple of LTXs and an Inox that is even more powerful again. Inox for cutting stainless steel. It has a black gear head instead of silver.

Same. The first time I powered up my corded Metabo grinder with vibration damping, I was wearing gloves and hearing protection and couldn't even tell if the damn thing was on when I pulled the trigger, I had to double check that I remembered to plug it in! And it just feels like it has nearly unlimited power when using it, it is so hard to actually bog it down.

@@PhysicsDude55 gorilla mode stands no chance of stopping them

That battery angle rotation is a pretty cool feature.

A couple things that I found helps with vibration: 1) The more "solid" the handle is, the better the vibration damping when you're holding on to it and doing work. The best I've seen in my limited experience is the handle from the 3M air-grinders. A lot of cheaper grinders use very lightweight plastic handle that is *hollow*. Those are the absolute worst, so chalk it up to rookie mistakes. One thing I did that can help with that, is if you cut open the end of the handle (opposite the screw end), and fill it with concrete (and then cover it back up of course) to give it some mass, it really helps out at the expense of making it heavier. 2) Sometimes the arbor hole on some ¼" grinding discs is just a smidge too large, AND the rim on the back flange of the grinder is too small. Those two in combination can leave you with a grinding disc that is wayyy off center and that contributes a *ton* to vibration. The quick and easy solution is standard plumbers teflon tape that is used for NPT pipe fittings/threads. Cut a piece long enough to lay/wrap the edge of the rim on the back flange twice, and that really helps to take up the loose clearance space, center the grinding disc, or any other accessory (that doesn't have a 5/8-11 threaded arbor).

Metabo tools are professional tools. Someone who is working with these all day has way different recommendations than some hobbyists who runs a grinder as much in a year as a pro in a day. I also fail to see the benefits of batteries on powertools for hobbyists. They are great for pros but simply rot away on hobbyists. Getting a cable can be a hassle but in the end it saves a lot of money for non pros.

many higher end Bosch are made in germany, some more in other EU countries. As for metabo, as long as its made in germany its good, their chinese made tools really are not. Bought a chinese made metabo (not metabo HPT) jigsaw, sent it back the same day because it ran rough, vibrated and had sharp edges. Then went for a Bosch, made in hungary (meh) but much better made.

@@semifavorableuncircle6952 I have the bosch biturbo GWX-15sc made in germany i believe most of their top tier are made in germany as well, this metabo grinder (Dark Green) are the one i called the professional metabo not the HPT this is their lower line of "professional" tools.

@@joaovieira3653 true, my SDS Plus Bulldog was also made in Germany. However Bosch's lower tier SDS rotary hammers are made in China and Brazil

@@joaovieira3653 the hpt line is called hikoki or in the older days hitachi prettymuch everywhere in the world. Its not metabo, but its just hikoki, with a metabo name slapped on for the american market only i think. As for the metabos. If its all plastic you can assume its a chinese tool. Like their cheap drills, they have a plastic outside on the chuck, and a full plastic body. Those are made in china. But the higher spec have an all metal chuck and most have a metal gearcasing as wel. Those are pretty strong machines. Only think i hate about my cordless drill is the "slow start" wich prevents it from instantly jumping to max rpm when you pull the trigger. Yes its great to not snap your wrist with all its power. But it sometimes is shit and if you got a stuck drillbit it actually prevents you from turning it as the machine sees it as overcurrent. Also the same if you remove big screws.

FESTO ... but they are quite high price

Metabo aint that good, they are considered cheap (the good valued cheap) in Germany, amazing brands are Festool, Hilti, DUSS, ... PS: this grinder IS indeed very good, it just doesnt go for most of their tools

@@piepflitze788thy have amazing cordless drills as well as a few other awesome tools. Although you’re right that Bosch and Hilti dominate the corded hammer drills (is that the right name?) market, and festool dominates woodworking (sanders, circular saws etc). I have a lot of metabo tools though, because I know they don’t construct crap while not costing too much.

those people havent worked with dewalt or bosch, which die after few days of hardcore using. Metabo and Makita and Milawkee, 3 brands with immortal tools.

​@@piepflitze788no one considers festool amazing. They have some good tools but it is largely hit and miss, and countless versions and "upgrades" of most of their tools that are released almost seasonally just goes to show that they have no issues with releasing half-baked products and don't care about their customers buyer's-remorse as their shiny new latest-and-greatest will be old news in a year or two.

​@@apsyntohave you ever used a festool product?

I've used Metabo since 2014 love it. It's a shame that Germany is currently destroying it's manufacturing industry with ridiculous sanctions and energy policies that only end up damaging the economy and hurting it's own people.

Yeah nah, the Metabo corded grinders have gone down in quality in recent years from my experience. I also know I company who has 25 Metabo corded grinders in for warranty

the safety features on the corded large sizes are worth it to a business

@@MrAbletospeak consumer grade hoovers are not that great.

Wasn’t that Flex? I know Metabo from their drills back in the day …

@@guidon.5413 FLEX created the angle grinder but Metabo put much more focus on them over the years

@@guidon.5413 Yep, in many languages flex is synonymous just like thermos and vacuum bottles.

​@@guidon.5413Yep, Metabo stands for METAll BOhr dreher.

Have a corded metabo, it's been awesome.

It's 230 here lol

1135pm, Alaska 😅

15.00 , Indonesia😊

5 o’clock somewhere

Dropped at 9am in Germany. TTC knows their target audience

He loved the corded version.

@@justinbevier8231 Yes he did the pancake head metabo, which I actually own. I'm looking at which brand of cordless tools I'm going to invest in now that I have a different job and need to buy my own tools. I was leaning towards Milwaukee or Dewalt but man those Metabo numbers make me tempted to go with them!

@@stickjohnny Metabo batteries (CAS) are used by other specialty brands like Mafell (professional saws), Rothenberger (plumbing tools) and Starmix (vacuums). If you specialize in one of those fields this might be interesting. Otherwise there are more affordable options, certainly in the US.

Many times they will bundle or offer you a free tool/battery with a purchase of a bare tool or other kits

Agreed. And this is someone who owns their tools. Perfectly fine for the average homeowner/dyier

Who makes them??

@@summerforever6736 Chevron. Same company that makes Skil, Ego, and Flex

Its a good homeowner tool. It is noticably slower rotating in use, but that translates to such a long runtime in practice l guess. It's nice for cleaning up welds since its light intermittent use between passes, at least on home gamer sized jobs. Never been impressed by it, but never disappointed either

Oh yes, it would be interesting. Could join up on tools or batteries. like they are not all that great, buut is having rando ones in garage/home... is it worth it, by performance?

i'd love to see this compared too, this line of DIY home tools is very popular in europe.

Good suggestion!! I’m very curious what they would do here..:)

Good suggestion, especially since they also started selling in Kaufland too.

aren't those not just rebranded Einhell?

The great old ones do not take kindly to being overshadowed

was the Fein a counterfeit?

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I have a couple biturbo models. I love them. They feel like they have ifinite power.

Bosch has the green models and the blue models. The green are for home workers, that use it once in a while, the blue models are for professionals. The blue come with a higher price tag but they can take much more dust and will not overheat, motors bearings and axles are high quality.

Bosch is having a troubled reputation because of their green consumer line of power tools being generally overpriced crap.

I am curious too. I am impressed by my 18v hikoki = metabo hpt when putting a 8ah multivolt battery on it

Be careful on the long time effects of the vibrations. Not sure they can be fixed.

Ever worked with better brands like Fein or Metabo? Often Dewalt are chosen by price instead of quality, despite even Makita is a better choice in that price segment ...

Fein switched to rebadging Bosch grinders in recent time. They also are using Bosch batteries on their newer tools, with some again being orange coloured Bosch tools. None of which is bad, just surprising they went from designing all their parts to that.

Does this metabo use the bosch 18v cell?

Fein also have their 1000w equivalent grinder running on the ampshare platform

@@semifavorableuncircle6952 They just joined forces. Fein is a tiny company. Bosch has probably spent more on research and development for tool batteries in the last 2 years than Feins yearly revenue.

@MINe19830522 These are HD Metabo batteries used in the video, as far as I know they have been partnering with Panasonic to have the ins and outs of their battery platform ironed out, Bosch uses Samsung cells in their equivalent PRO CORE batteries.

Yes, I was about to comment the same. Would really be interesting, since in Germany Metabo has a "decent" standing/reputation. But Everyone treats Hilti as the God-Tier...

@@himanu5625 My father has a HILTI that is 10+ years old and a switch broke, so he called them for a replacement part, here is what they did: send it free of charge. the part was still on stock, no "sorry you can't repair it, buy a new one" bullshit. got what was basically an apology letter. After (again) 10+ years their standard was "this shouldn't have happened" Thats God-Tier service right there (imho).

@@himanu5625 its the same in austria. workers swear on hilti

To my knowledge Hilti grinders are rebranded Bosch, at least the large corded grinder I own.

Because those aren’t being replaced by cordless any time soon!

I haven't been. It's been very clear to me that it was anemic. It's perhaps the worst Kobalt tool.

I totally agree, ive had mine for roughly 4 years, and have beat the everloving snot out of it, still works as good as the day i bought it!!!!

The predecessor of the current metabo line, I have a Metabo WB 18 LTX BL 125, which I got for 150€, just the tool, pretty nice deal for a great tool.

Exactly, metabo and metabo hpt are COMPLETELY different

Metabo HPT is not an old Hitachi in different clothes; more like a HITACHI with a new badge slapped on it. Their bright green clothes are the same. I would've preferred if they had brought the HiKOKI name from overseas to North America. A few people are misled thinking Metabo HPT is a Metabo.

Hitachi bought Metabo and then sell Koki division to Chinese without rights to use Hitachi name.They named Hikoki their tools (Hitachi-Koki) for Europe and Metabo HPT (HPT-Hitachi power tools) for America.Hikoki models that are old Hitachi is good tools,new not that good.

I don't think that anyone considers Bosch as 'good stuff' here. Bosch is just what most bigger companies end up buying for their workers because it's easy to procure and solid enough quality and range, and Hilti is too expensive. I have hardly met any independent contractors and self-employed who use it.

@@apsynto well, I don't know if you're getting the same stuff as we do. But here many contractors that don't want to pay the Hilti or Festool Premium use Bosch Professional (blue stuff).

​@@Watzleroviak1210that was exactly his point.. Bosch are often chosen by price and habit. Price level, discount and distributor range above quality. Often the risk of having top quality tools stolen, decides what is bought... East Europeans also want our Western quality equipment 🙈🙈💸💸

I have heard good things about Fein as well.

Thr big matebos and hiltis are definetly thw high class in germany what are you ok about, especially grinders are in most professional steel workshop matebos.

Yeah def want to see HPT/Hikoki on this list

Makita 40v grinders please!!

All companies rate their grinders at crazy RPMs because that's their no load speed, but just like Torque said, the real test comes when the rubber hits the road.

​@@engineer_alvProfessional brands doesn't exaggerate anything. EG the cordless Fein grinder I work with has regulated RPM and runs perfect, no matter how hard it's used. Only the thermo switch might shortly brake to protect the machine. Buy quality and concentrate on the job instead of bragging about irrelevant numbers 😉

Cutting without the shield? 🙈

What about the Metabo SXE 150? It's just a Mirka in another color - can't fault it's quality.

Their German made corded drills are very good too. Frankly, most of their corded tool are good quality but not usually cheap.

@@BL-yj2wp Metabo also makes best cordless drill.

Not true. Metabo makes excellent cordless drills and impact drivers. Very well made. Even the Chinese made Metabo are well designed and constructed.

Worst batt release ever made!

I got the Flex from ACME tools at $99 with a 5Ah battery. It just shipped yesterday, hope to test it out soon

@@engineer_alv same. I almost mentioned that but who knows how long they'll keep it at that price. Also, it might just be my area but Lowe's has the rear handle saw kit for 299, regularly it's 399.

Not to mention that stacked lithium. Kinda weird they didn't include the Flex being that it either dominates or places in the top 3 of every other tool duel they perform. Must know something we don't. 🤷🏾‍♂️