Germany's WW1 Zeiss Bifocal Scope: the Glasvisier 16

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The Zeiss 2.5x Glasvizier 16 optic is one of the most unusual and interesting of the German sighting systems used on rifles during the First World War. It is a bifocal optic, working in the same way as today’s SeeAll optic. Basically, a section of magnifying lens sits in the bottom third of the field of view, which magnifies the huge white triangle that clips over the rifle’s front sight. By lining the tip of this triangle up on your target, you can get a parallax-free sight picture. The front and rear portions are both clip-on and can be removed in seconds, allowing the system to be fielded without needing to permanently convert rifles to a sniper configuration. The system is interesting and does work, but like its SeeAll descendent today, it is not really what someone expects to get from a 2.5s optical sight. I don’t have any data on the number produced or the extent to which they were fielded during the war (although this particular optic is serialized #4807), but I suspect that its unorthodox nature led to a poor reputation amongst troops and a fairly limited field use. Certainly these are one of the rarest f the German WW1 optics, and one would expect to see more surviving if they had been widely used.
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@eddyguizonde401 5 жыл бұрын

*ian wakes up* "oh my god it's a german ACOG". i chuckled.

@roempoetliar7995 5 жыл бұрын

"oh my holy father its a german acog"

@mitchelreimer7095 4 жыл бұрын

Don't blasphemy

@priesty. 4 жыл бұрын

@@mitchelreimer7095 Blaspheme

@marcosfelipe1405 2 жыл бұрын

😂

@gabe-we8hz 3 ай бұрын

@@roempoetliar7995🤦🏻‍♂️

@astrokaizer 5 жыл бұрын

Sees thumbnail Omg it's a German acog Start of the video Omg it's a German acog Damn right

@boris4231 5 жыл бұрын

hahaha had the exact same thought

@222oree 5 жыл бұрын

But it isn't German ACOG....

@jarink1 5 жыл бұрын

Actually, I think it is pretty close to an ACOG in they way it seems it was intended to be used. No magnification of the target seems to indicate this was not for "sniping" or long-range accuracy. It looks like it's better at getting a quick sight picture and laying the rifle on a target within normal eyesight range (up to 250-300m).

@222oree 5 жыл бұрын

But it is still not a ACOG. Looks like it yeah... but still isn't.

@bdh985 5 жыл бұрын

Had the same thought when I saw the thumbnail! "WW1 Acog?!?!" LOL

@gonnegottkehaskamp1667 5 жыл бұрын

Pretty funny. I can lean out the window and see the factory where these time travelling ACOG could have been built. Greetings from Jena, Germany.

@Nanischwein 5 жыл бұрын

Ach dann sind wir quasi Nachbarn. Grüße aus Erfurt :D

@AndreaLudwigDesign 5 жыл бұрын

Und Weimar :D Jetzt sind wir Thüringer komplett ;-)

@gonnegottkehaskamp1667 5 жыл бұрын

@@AndreaLudwigDesign Thüringen. Wer kennt es nicht, drei Städte und sonst NICHTS... XDXD

@Merkenau 5 жыл бұрын

Zeitz ist auch am Start xD Grüße.

@feinstersuff8i161 5 жыл бұрын

Egomania 27 oh, noch eener aus Jena :D

@matthayward7889 5 жыл бұрын

Forgotten weapons is, and has, always been better thought of as ‘fascinating weapons’

@bubbamofobear1 5 жыл бұрын

Forgotten weapons and forgotten weapon accessories

@ohy2266 5 жыл бұрын

@Andrei S Weapons Related

@masonhaggerty186 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@TheZINGularity Жыл бұрын

@@ohy2266 Thank you doctor

@badas45 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@Celeon999A 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting piece of history ! I did some research and it seems the Glasvisier16 was primarily meant to be a "Dämmerungszielhilfe" which would literally translate to something like "dusk or twilight aiming assist". So it was meant to augment aiming in low level light conditions like dusk or full moon nights rather than being used as a magnification scope during daytime in the classical sense. Its even possible that the big entry lense was even treated with phosphor to brighten the image. (Yes, just like with an Acog ;-D ) The white silvery triangle looks very much like old radium paint does once its aged and depleted and lost its radioactive glow. Its easy to find out as you just need to expose it to very bright light, like from a high powered flashlight and then take it into the dark. If its really radium, the photons hitting the paint will reactivate the original green radioactive glow for about a minute or less. Or just hold a geiger counter to it. ;-)

@seancrooker6771 5 жыл бұрын

Since it doesn't magnify the target it seems less like a sniper scope and more like a primitive red dot or reflex sight.

@AsbestosMuffins 5 жыл бұрын

ww1 combat ranges weren't all that far away though in some regions.

@RanninRavensight 5 жыл бұрын

Maybe more of a "sharpshooter" or "designated marksman" over a proper sniper.

@AG.Floats 5 жыл бұрын

It's 2.5x

@grumples1517 5 жыл бұрын

@@AG.Floats It isn't though. The part of the glass which you observe the target with it not magnified at all. the magnification is only looking at the front sight triangle thing.

@lordemarsh6804 4 жыл бұрын

@@grumples1517 would still be better than iron sight

@TheRemulosEpsolonProgramme Жыл бұрын

That scope was incredibly ahead of its time.

@heyarno 5 жыл бұрын

During the cold war the Bundeswehr used a similar system. Selected G3 rifles where fitted with a matched quick detachable 4x scope and handed out to a class of shooters called Präzisionsschütze (precision shooter). They are not snipers, but better then average marksmen. And to avoid them being treated like snipers in case they where captured, they where instructed to detach the scope and throw it away if needed.

@longiusaescius2537 Жыл бұрын

Huh

@longiusaescius2537 Жыл бұрын

Any pictures of their scopes or the word(s) to Google it?

@giostisskylas 5 жыл бұрын

Please make a video about the German WWII infrared night vision device FG 1250.

@jonmeray713 5 жыл бұрын

Id contact zeiss to service it lol!

@blackbird8632 5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Meray given enough money they probably would.

@stevebell5231 5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 5 жыл бұрын

What causes the fogging on the glass? Was there a coating that degraded?

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 5 жыл бұрын

@@OreoBambino Wow, thanks for all the great info! I'm getting my first scope soon. Good stuff to know.

@worldtraveler930 5 жыл бұрын

Zeiss may still have the production information that Ian has not found.

@mandernachluca3774 5 жыл бұрын

This exact optic is why i watch your channel, i never heared of this thing but i'm glad that you took the time and explained it to us. All hail Ian, our one and only gun Jesus XD.

@aka99 5 жыл бұрын

same here

@biglez9054 5 жыл бұрын

Jäger and bandit would be proud

@AKK5I 5 жыл бұрын

They should have added this for the Jager elite skin Oh wait

@biglez9054 5 жыл бұрын

@@AKK5I shieße

@biglez9054 5 жыл бұрын

@@ruskibot7745 exactly

@perw12345 5 жыл бұрын

@@ruskibot7745 So people can be toxic and spawn peek again?

@astorkallberg3592 5 жыл бұрын

Haggis442312 Who said you couldn’t spawnpeek with a holo? :)

@bobthompson4319 4 жыл бұрын

I like the elcon 1x and 4x with a switch. Because in military service its really good for urban room clearing because at 1x it's like a red dot but with a crosshair and then its a 4x when you have mountain to mountain shooting or when you clear a house and the terrorists run out the back door and they get 200 meters away you can flip the switch to 4x line them up and pop. Right in the spine.

@Swat_Dennis 5 жыл бұрын

Is it strange just to have a private playlist with all the Forgotten weapons video's you just want to watch again because you found the things in them way too cool?

@slb797 3 жыл бұрын

Nope

@lawrencebautista1 5 жыл бұрын

Carl Zeiss manufactures the best optics. For good reason, Sony chose them for their Alpha series of DSLR and later mirrorless cameras. They just introduced their first camera ever, a full-frame 35mm fixed lens camera the Zeiss ZX1, to be released next year.

@chrischarters376 5 жыл бұрын

@Howard Black good stuff!

@altergreenhorn 4 жыл бұрын

Thats aint Sony it's Minolta Sony bought Minolta division for cameras back in 2002 and Alphas are Minolta just rebranded with new name. With new name I mean Sony because Alpha name comed from Minolta

@TheZINGularity Жыл бұрын

:OOOO What if, get this... what if the Z in ZF-41 stood for Zeiss :OOOOO

@nathansmith5229 5 жыл бұрын

i want my f&^$# scope warrantied the blasted thing fogged up after a hundred years. they said it would last forever!

@jerryjohnsonii4181 5 жыл бұрын

It does look like an ACOG. Zeiss makes some of the highest quality scopes i have every used for hunting. I just wish that i could afford one, way out of my price range. Thanks for showing this awesome scope an the knowledge too.

@CarlosPEnis 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, my uncle who's basically a professional hunter bought my dad a pair for some work he did a while back. My dad loves them but there's no way he would've dropped $1,000+ on one himself

@CarlosPEnis 2 жыл бұрын

They're binoculars though, not scope. Still expensive though

@Likexner 6 ай бұрын

I had a 1956 ZF-4 made in Jena, Eastern Germany. It was essentially the same as the war time ZF-4s that were put on Kar 98s. I bought it because it was only 35 dollars (converted) and i always liked the reticle. I was planning to put it on my airsoft gun. It was obscenely heavy by modern standards and in order to mount, it would require me to buy a custom made adapter for a picatinny rail which would cost twice as much as the scope itself. I ended up not using it and selling it for 50 dollars (converted), making a neat little profit. Despite its shortcomings compared to modern scopes, i can vouch for one thing. The glass was _very_ clear with no noticeable distortion. Definitely top quality for the time.

@tammysilverwolf1085 5 жыл бұрын

What a clever and cool device, really nice craftsmanship too from the look. Great video as always, Ian!

@Coonder92 5 жыл бұрын

Loved that intro! Got quite a chuckle out of me. Keep up the awesome videos!

@Qsaws_ 5 жыл бұрын

Perfect for quickscope action

@gwivongalois6169 Жыл бұрын

Like the clip-on action. "It's dangerous out there, take this." and off to war.

@DerangedManiac12 5 жыл бұрын

I was hoping you would do this! I've been obsessed with this scope after seeing it in DOI's Screaming Steel mod.

@kenhelmers2603 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting little scope! Thanks Ian

@Bluedrake42 5 жыл бұрын

Acoog

@mysticprophecy5395 4 жыл бұрын

yes

@philippzimmermann6027 5 жыл бұрын

That intro sentence really made me smile. I love it, when a bit of Ian's humor shines through.

@willkriegforkartoffeln4878 5 жыл бұрын

Sehr wunderschön! I love it. I'll take two.

@BestWeedVideos 5 жыл бұрын

@Titan Mechanism Not commenting on the "very wonderful"? :'D

@IR4TE 5 жыл бұрын

Its either 'Wunderschön' or 'Sehr schön' but not 'Sehr Wunderschön'

@willkriegforkartoffeln4878 5 жыл бұрын

@@IR4TE What if I was trying to say very, very beautiful.

@BestWeedVideos 5 жыл бұрын

Everybody gets what you want to get across, the german correction squad just visited :)

@BestWeedVideos 5 жыл бұрын

@@willkriegforkartoffeln4878 If you want so say very, very beautiful it would be sehr, sehr schön.

@davidberry8498 5 жыл бұрын

I wonder if Zeiss would service that sight if it were sent to them today? Would be cool if they did.

@worldtraveler930 5 жыл бұрын

The Zeiss company is very good at serving anything that is there product I think that getting it to them and back would be the most expensive aspect.

@IbanezRG570T 5 жыл бұрын

Thank god for forgotten weapons, such great content!

@jordancave6987 5 жыл бұрын

Loved that intro. Defs some of your best acting to date Ian 😆

@trevillyan5515 5 жыл бұрын

I love the comparison with the See-All Sight!! I have one on my AK and I've always found it to be an interesting optic

@elijahaitaok8624 5 жыл бұрын

I ought to get one for my savage 99. The front sight went awol on me over the past 12 years

@trevillyan5515 5 жыл бұрын

@@elijahaitaok8624 they're good quick target sights, but don't offer much in the way of magnification

@elijahaitaok8624 5 жыл бұрын

@@trevillyan5515 I wouldn't mind the lack of magnification, where I live the caribou can be just behind a hill, so a quick acquisition would be much appreciated

@trevillyan5515 5 жыл бұрын

Oh ok perfect then man, you can't beat the price point on them either

@elijahaitaok8624 5 жыл бұрын

@@trevillyan5515 80 bucks CAD for good sights is like a wet dream

@sailingmaster 5 жыл бұрын

What would be really really cool is if the future owner were to offer to loan it to Othais and Mae for a special episode of C&Rsenal.

@therugburnz 5 жыл бұрын

I have never seen a scope that snapped on the "roller coaster" or any other adjustable rear sight modern or war era. Thanx Ian.

@Drubnubjagr 5 жыл бұрын

Please try to find more odd, rare or antique optics! Really interesting stuff!

@riverfeltner1511 5 жыл бұрын

Can we Get MRE Jesus (Steve1989) and Gun Jesus to do a collab?

@LtDan2K 5 жыл бұрын

Forgotten MRE's

@LadyAnuB 5 жыл бұрын

@@LtDan2K Which have been meant to be forgotten. No. 9 Chicken a la King.

@OJBowie 5 жыл бұрын

NICE!

@DeltaEchoGolf 4 жыл бұрын

The original designated marksman. I saw somewhere that the US military is looking for a new SMG. Seems like they are going back to the late WWII German multiple small arms arrangement.

@bobthompson4319 4 жыл бұрын

The mount is a really cool and kinda good idea.

@wirelessone2986 5 жыл бұрын

That's scope looks Beautiful!

@hellraiser666666 5 жыл бұрын

i thought he might actually take the optics apart - but nevertheless, still love the content. keep up the good work! never gets old/boring!

@flyingninja1234 5 жыл бұрын

Carl Zeiss makes fantastic optics & have been doing so, for over 100 years.

@xPlatiinHD 5 жыл бұрын

I’m about to work for Zeiss as a student :) can’t wait ❤️

@loupiscanis9449 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you , Ian

@skoIt 5 жыл бұрын

"It's a german ACOG" Jäger will remember this.

@MrMezmerize 5 жыл бұрын

Zeiss is producing some of the best lenses up to this day. Ranging from cameras to rifle optics and medical gear. I really wonder for what distance the Glasvisier was intended, like, whats the zeroing on the thing? If it would be lower then the 200m default on the G88 for example, I could really see the benefit in a real life scenario.

@LongPigg 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Mr Ian.

@LionofCaliban 5 жыл бұрын

Arguing the evidence of absence of evidence is a tough one. I can't argue with the logic though. It stands to reason, if it was a popular, effective system, then it would stand to reason it would appear in documentation. Either in TO&E lists, in the developmental material, in the training manuals, in the doctrine. If it's not in any of those and the numbers of items is so hard to verify, it can't have been produced in large numbers.

@slowpokebr549 5 жыл бұрын

I can't imagine that spring clip mounting system retaining zero. It was probably rated for minute of pie plate accuracy. I bet it was fast into action though.

@TheZINGularity Жыл бұрын

Probably not the most stable but also IMO probably not bad enough to be a big problem at the ranges it was used

@bobthompson4319 4 жыл бұрын

the sight/scope thing that has just open lenses for magnifying I think is cool.

@johnnyappleseed6415 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting... I have a set of WWI Zeiss infantry binoculars, 4X iirc. Zeiss: Quality optics that can take a beating.

@AlexA-vd7li 5 жыл бұрын

You can try to disassemble the scope and remove the haze. Probably this is fungus, so you can easily find a lot of ways how to remove it.

@CaptainAhorn 5 жыл бұрын

Based on the replacement front sight (functioning as the reticle) I wonder if this was intended as a low-light or night sight.

@codytroutman1163 5 жыл бұрын

I would assume the eye cup was for the duel purpose of having a telescope type of device and also a scope.

@rotwang2000 5 жыл бұрын

Best intro yet !!!

@LightTackleEthusiast 5 жыл бұрын

The yee old ACOG

@francislematt7079 5 жыл бұрын

I am glad that Ian mentioned SeeAll sight - it has a very good potential to replace those flip up backup sights. Honestly, those SeeAll sights are rather overpriced here in Europe compared to what it costs over there.

@rifles_up2263 4 жыл бұрын

This is what my primary arms 2.5x ACSS reticle scope would’ve looked like 100 years ago🧐

@cprice2011 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. Can you do a video on your cobray m11a1?

@jackandersen1262 5 жыл бұрын

Was the cutout for on the optic mounting platform for the adjustment of the range on the irons? Additionally, is that sight capable of using the range adjustments?

@martialme84 5 жыл бұрын

00:21 Almost, ian. It is actually a "Karl Tsaiss" with a really sharpy and pronounced "Ts" at the beginning of "Tsaiss".

@nickfesta3180 5 жыл бұрын

That’s actually really cool!

@holyravioli5795 5 жыл бұрын

Now thats a cool scope.

@803brando 5 жыл бұрын

wow didnt know about that GLV marking, taking my mouser out of the safe right now to check.

@Daponics89 5 жыл бұрын

Lololol laughed out loud out at work when you said that in the beginning!

@M.M.83-U 5 жыл бұрын

I read about this some years ago, but never understand that was not a "real" 2,5× scope. Very fascinating.

@legionaryprimedecanus4081 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like a german time traveller took a sniper from pubg and came back and made it not look suspicious

@sigspearthumb2313 5 жыл бұрын

That’s a sweet piece. I see where trijicon got their inspiration.

@abu_haidder_alkhafaji Жыл бұрын

أحسنت النشر عزيزي ايان

@larryfontenot9018 5 жыл бұрын

Is it certain that it was intended to be a sniper scope? It seems strange that the main lens has no magnification. It would make more sense as a general battle scope meant to replace the iron sights. The simple nature of the system would be good for quick sight pictures at short ranges. I can't imagine it being good for long range sniping since you didn't mention it having any wind or height adjustments. Or does it use the ladder of the iron sights for that?

@ozzone719 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if these stopped production due to material shortages. I mean sniper scopes are never easy to mass produce, and maybe Germany wanted to prioritize actual sniper scopes instead of these infantry sights

@konnigkratz 5 жыл бұрын

I'd hazard a guess that they were thinking some soldiers familiarity with the idea of bifocal spectacle lenses would help get them accustomed, but unlikely.

@Ethnarches 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting apparatus! Could someone clarify that is it only meant to magnify your sights so it's easier to line up the shot? Since the upper part isn't magnified, only the lower part for the sights. Or am I missing something?

@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын

Yes it was designed to magnify the front sight post.

@Ethnarches 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the replies fellas!

@alexanderstrickland9036 5 жыл бұрын

Rapid target acquisition. Literally the same as a red dot haha. It WAS a sniper sight at the time but they were using 3x optics which our standard infantry rifles can have today. And this sight in particular has no magnification.

@alexanderstrickland9036 5 жыл бұрын

Peter the Peter it’s literally the same in function not form. Rapid Target Aquisition An open sight picture That’s literally what a red dot is. You can do something similar with AA sights for mgs What do you mean ‘why would you want to magnify the front post/ triangle?’? That’s literally how the optic works. That triangle point is much finer and accurate(if dialed) than a front post of an iron sight. It also allows much easier tracking of a moving target past 100 yards(there’s no rear sight getting in your POV. It’d probably be more accurate than a cheap modern Reddot but be more difficult to sight in on target. But this is WW2 and most snipers wouldn’t like carrying a battery pack for a real(bad) red dot.

@earlycuyler2295 5 жыл бұрын

It seriously is the direct predecessor to the see all sight.it works on the same concept. They are a great sight and work really well as soon as you stop thinking of it as a red dot and more of improved irons.I use a see all ( delta aperture ) on my comp shotgun and the crosshair style reticle offset on my ar10.the concept is so simple but the engineering is where people can't wrap there heads around it.they see something on top of a rifle and they immediately think it's supposed to be a scope( just like Ian said" a german acog...a german acog"). Ps.the seealls are cheap and if you know what your doing you can easily instal tritium vials in the standard sight and save $100 and Its more compact.

@lukeybaby45 5 жыл бұрын

Liked for the opening sentence alone! Haven't even watched the rest yet...

@sanic7255 3 жыл бұрын

The Germans 104 years ago could give a Mauser rifle a ACOG sight and yet they can’t give Jagar’s ACOG back

@kaanklc8867 5 жыл бұрын

Nice stuff

@russellflemister393 5 жыл бұрын

i like this a lot easy and simple

@morgonfr33m4n1337z 5 жыл бұрын

Is the front sight luminous like the Leuchtsvisierung (aka Radium Sights for the G98)?

@anonymoushuman7794 5 жыл бұрын

Does it matter what range the standard sight is set to when mounting and using the scope?

@bikkiikun 4 жыл бұрын

FYI: The Z is sharp and the J is like a Y, so it's pronounced like Carl Tsaiss Yena.

@jack1701e 5 жыл бұрын

You mentioned the British Galilean sight, having a lens at the front and back of the barrel. I'm wondering is that what some weapons in Battlefield 1 have on them, they sound like them. Just something I wondered.

@Axonteer 4 жыл бұрын

dat carl he was so zeiss ahead of his visier

@LeFeuauxpoudres 5 жыл бұрын

That Sir, is awesome!

@corwinhyatt519 5 жыл бұрын

@ralphgriesenbeck6961 5 жыл бұрын

Pre-Jeff Cooper scout rifle?

@ben501st 5 жыл бұрын

Does the rear rollercoaster site still move? Is the scope adjustable for range using the rear site?

@slowpokebr549 5 жыл бұрын

Good question, I wondered myself what range it would be zeroed for.

@desroin 5 жыл бұрын

Carl Zeiss Jena *_* I love seeing the classic Zeiss lense logo

@flyingmanforfun 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty nice flame on that stock

@vincecirivello1385 5 жыл бұрын

Does the Lonfviser(sp?) distances still apply then? I would think they would.

@Sneaky-Snek 5 жыл бұрын

the opening of the video almost made me spit coffee everywhere LMAO

@GermanSharp1 5 жыл бұрын

Ive tried to look up the company that makes the current optics with no results. Did he say seal, ceal, zeal? Id like to look into them especially if they really are cheap.

@jeremyroberts4595 5 жыл бұрын

Does the range have to be set at a specific spot, to index the scope?

@XSpamDragonX 5 жыл бұрын

So does adjusting the elevation of the rear sight correctly adjust the zeiss scope?

@Sicarius888 5 жыл бұрын

Looks like another example of German military engineering. They first developed something that was good idea but for some reason didn't work for them and years later other countries made some improvements and made it their next big thing. Just like with rockets, jet planes, assault rifles, main battle tanks.

@pteppig 5 жыл бұрын

Or computers. Look up Zuse 1

@worldtraveler930 5 жыл бұрын

Knowing the Zeiss company I would have to guess that it was too expensive.

@dawsongranger4940 5 жыл бұрын

Omnius Prime tanks were made first in Britain. Britain thought tanks weren't an effective tool of warfare and ignored them largely until Germany took them and made them into a main part of their warfare tactics.

@Sicarius888 5 жыл бұрын

It is of course true tanks were first made by Britain, but I'm thinking about idea of universal MBT. As first ones people usually consider post war T54, Canturion and Patton, but Panther can also fit the general idea. I don't disagree UK had jet ideas earlier than Germany, but it was just ideas, patents and experimental engine. He 178 was the first aircraft that flew with jet engine and Me 262 the first jet fighter that entered military service.

@MrAstrojensen 5 жыл бұрын

@Edohiguma The Panther wasn't garbage per se, once the early design errors had been worked out, but it suffered enormously from lack of the high precision parts it needed, such as bearings, gaskets, lubricants, etc.

@bman1824 5 жыл бұрын

Honestly I thought it was going to expand like a spyglass with all the ridges on the rear.

@meisenhut31 5 жыл бұрын

This is sort of like an early 20th century reflex or red dot sight.

@absolutelynotluna 5 жыл бұрын

Has anyone here used a Seeall sight? What did you think of it?

@biscuitsRgood 5 жыл бұрын

Would it be possible or even worth the possible damage it could receive to try and have this restored by some optics company?

@worldtraveler930 5 жыл бұрын

Only if you have the Zeiss company do the restoration.

@dtdt1100 5 жыл бұрын

Ian McCollum, king of gun nerds! My favorite channel on KZfaq

@zbyszekz77 5 жыл бұрын

That Jena city mispronunciation :) Say "Yena"

@stuartjohns2779 5 жыл бұрын

We won the war and will call it Jena😉

@maximilianfranz2158 5 жыл бұрын

@@stuartjohns2779 shut up, stinkender Plutokrat!

@Rixoli Жыл бұрын

Honestly? I'd imagine one of the big reasons this didn't get much use is that it probably didn't hold a 0 very well compared to other magnified optics. The reason we like "Rail" systems today isn't just the modularity, it's that you can cut those grooves to particularly tight intervals allowing for minimal wobble/play on anything mounted to it regardless of the weapon system itself. With something like this that is almost literally "Plug and play" on a part built into the weapon I imagine the recoil impulse jolted that scope in ways that didn't come up in testing. Sure, you can build sight blocks to tighter specs but there's still alot of room in that relief on either side of the sight post where those clips can wobble around especially after those springs have been worn in a bit. The fact that the optic itself has a bit of play moving up and down probably didn't help either. While it was obviously meant to make sure the clips could seat properly that also means that it can wobble around up/down on the sight leaf it's resting on. I'm no gunsmith, so take my word with a grain of salt but it seems like in the efforts to make a sight that could clip on *any* German K98 service rifle, although more particularly rifles with sights made to a higher quality, they tried to make what *was* in essence a sort of bifocal acog ahead of it's time with a, while admittedly ingenius, lacking mounting system.

@bobhumplick4213 5 жыл бұрын

what is the advantage to this sight? i dont understand. i mean the site is magnified but the target itself isnt? why would that be good? is it just because that would eliminate site adjustment inside the scope and make it external to the scope (by the use of the front site)?

@morelenmir 4 жыл бұрын

Would it be possible to clean this sight up? It seems extremely solid and screwed together rather than riveted. Maybe you would need to send the lenses to be polished?

@johngraesser4911 4 жыл бұрын

That's like refinishing a stock, the future owner will probably put this in a glass case and never look through it.