Why Is EVERYONE Telling Me To Use This "BROKEN" Hand Cannon?!

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Why Is EVERYONE Telling Me To Use This "BROKEN" Hand Cannon?!
Recently, lots of people have been coming into my stream, to tell me to try the Warden's Law Hand Cannon in Trials. Burst Hand Cannons aren't something that I've tried too much, but I have used Crimson a fair amount and people always tell me how "Broken" Crimson is for controller players. I hopped into Trials to compare the two and figure out whether burst Hand Cannons truly are broken in Destiny. Enjoy!
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@michaelg4044 Ай бұрын

Secret Jake is wardens law does not need any stability.. gun is very stable with max range. With zen moment and moving target you can allow the gun to have max range and its feels stable

@ttvunashamedalchemist7002 Ай бұрын

i love mine. same ttk as 120's with a bit less range. mine has smallbore, acc rounds, enlightened/perpetual, and kill clip with a range mw. two tapping with clip active is so satisfiying

@Zenphoshen Ай бұрын

Warden's Law with Kill Clip is my play. You get a kill and then 2 burst the next person and so on. I basically full send into the weapon on Warlock using Ophidians for the extra Handling and Reload. Its a super fun HC when you get going. Its just the first kill that takes a bit since its TTK is not the greatest out the gate at .93 needing 3 bursts to kill, once you get Kill Clip active it drops down to .57 which is in the nutty territory. Overall its a fun weapon when you can pop off with it. Edit: Jake I love your reaction to Crimson at the end haha.

@adamnorthwood1673 Ай бұрын

is a Heal clip, kill clip a possible combo?

@Zenphoshen Ай бұрын

@@adamnorthwood1673 It sadly does not have Heal Clip.

@adamnorthwood1673 Ай бұрын

@@Zenphoshen damn rip

@papaspaulding Ай бұрын

good timing seeing this video, weirdly I woke up today and wardens law popped into my head for some unknown reason as I do like that gun but not used it since it was re introduced and only have two rolls in my vault but thought "ima have a play with that later" then I look in here and see this vid...

@Darkri7 Ай бұрын

"Pointy rock don't F me"- Jake

@otisdriftwood7094 Ай бұрын

This must be Bungies idea of a joke. Crimson was the flinch king forever so they made it take more flinch than any other gun in the game now.

@JesusLopez-ch7kz Ай бұрын

Man dude it's been a long long time I haven't seen your videos gives me destiny memories with ifrostbolt😂💪🔥

@jonmaneer3436 Ай бұрын

The rambling in this video was heckin entertaining xD

@BottomDollarandaDream Ай бұрын

My favorite roll is hammer, steady rounds, perpetual, zen, range mw, adept range. I tried max range rolls but it felt inconsistent, the big bumps of stability from steady, perpetual and zen makes it feel good and always crit at the longer ranges

@sdfE36 Ай бұрын

My problem with crimson has always been consistency. When it connects, it feels like there isnt a better primary weapon in the game. But then it will full in ghost an entire burst thats completely on target. And its not a connection issue because the previous or follow up burst will connect. But when that burst ghost's, you just lose.

@dictatorjames7033 Ай бұрын

I know most people dont really like this map, but i actually had a ton of fun in trials this weekend. Went flawless for the first time in a while.

@GameLifeYT 16 күн бұрын

4:19 that shot lock is crazy ..

@jcruz5312 Ай бұрын

What shader in the beginning?

@eschabert1129 Ай бұрын

Interesting that flinch is such an issue with Crimson. With that high a stability it should be a bit better I would think. I wonder if a higher resistance build is necessary to counteract flinch enough to make it feel good.

@thehashslaingingslasher Ай бұрын

I got moving target rampage on mine and it slaps. Doesn't 2 burst 10 resil with 1 stack of rampage anymore since the health changes but super forgiving with just 1 stack.

@yup-iz1lk Ай бұрын

what shader is on the wardens?

@heliosttk924 Ай бұрын

Dude i cant wait till that stasis one drops w TFS i love wardens law

@pjdava Ай бұрын

GernaderJake, Your videos always brighten my day, so I subscribed!

@satsunoryu Ай бұрын

Yup! I'm notoriously bad at remembering lyrics, and get them wrong constantly. I hear rhythm and music well, I remember that stuff for a lifetime, but lyrics escape me. Fun vid!

@kaidensheroan7089 Ай бұрын

With me I’ll know every word in the song but can’t remember a song name for the life of me

@satsunoryu Ай бұрын

That's a unique one lol

@Aurkus23 Ай бұрын

Love my PvP Warden’s Law, my 2nd most used HC after Lumina. My roll is Full Bore, Accurized Rounds, Perpetual Motion and Zen Moment with a Ranged masterwork and an Adept Range mod. It sits at 100 range and Perpetual+Zen make it so easy to stay on target! Recently tried my Perpetual Motion + Timed Payload roll again and it felt really good for some reason. Maybe something to do with the universal recoil changes.

@otisdriftwood7094 Ай бұрын

Can you get timed payload on Warden's Law?

@redsun2001 Ай бұрын

Anyone know what shader that is he's using at 10:24? Also if anyone recognizes the chest. The rest of the armor I recognize.

@dubstepgs9784 Ай бұрын

Warden's Law just seems so much better when compared to Crimson because the gun barrel when shooting while aiming down doesnt jump that high so you see better where you aim and if the first shot connects,the second one is more likely to connect even through flinch. When Crimson feels like it locks you in the 3 burst animation and the barrel jumps so much that you relly more on aim assisit if anything.

@ams384 Ай бұрын

So if it’s like crimson this is terrible on mnk tight?

@chrisseguin1621 Ай бұрын

For controller you want a mix of range and stability it make a huge difference. Even with zen - moment stability is needed

@toriellsimon9075 Ай бұрын

Tarrabah or Symmetry as the energy weapon with Warden’s?

@garmrdmr Ай бұрын

back in the day when i managed to get lunas howl... it was crimson that got me that (im a BAD pvp player)... but since then it has gone down.. its recoil is horrible and i really cant get on with it for a long time - i feel they made the recoil and flinch much worse somewhere along the way. so... i m not surprised you dont like crimson :)

@Zer0-sama Ай бұрын

Idk if you tried it already or own one, but Frontiers Cry w/ Adagio goes crazy

@Zzucc Ай бұрын

I remember when it wasn't a burst and just a silly niche split shot HC

@joshuarivera671GU Ай бұрын

Crimson was my first exotic weapon I got when I first joined destiny and I thought it was amazing and I stuck with it. But after getting so many better weapons I can’t use it. Especially in this meta. It’s almost throwing if I use it

@walterbrown8293 Ай бұрын

Destiny 1 tether was SO good at hit registration

@justineells7518 Ай бұрын

I definitely expected him to say, "the comparison nobody asked for and nobody wanted" lol

@juliuswallace6783 Ай бұрын

Crimson comes with those two amazing perks after each kill, it also has a slightly faster TTK. All you need to do is master the upward recoil, and the only efficient way to counterbalance this in my opinion is to strafe with it.

@twostop6895 Ай бұрын

Crimson is out classed by a lot of primaries, I've always done well with it but will never main it

@Ryoneru1417 Ай бұрын

I feel the same way with crimson, whats weird for me was when I was playing with a 60hz monitor lower framerate I am decent with Crimson but when I upgraded to 200hz I couldn't use this weird a** gun. It flinches so much.

@zero.the.outsider Ай бұрын

2:33 nice

@davidgabrieltaylor Ай бұрын

I always used this in pvp. Not every game but i like it.

@quickstep9815 Ай бұрын

I put about 400 kills on my perpetual kill clip roll. I'd take kill clip over zen moment anyway. And I have that roll too. Kill clip can blam supers down

@juanjodpr Ай бұрын

You might try Vorpal for that specific situation although Warden's Law is a lot better for PVE, this thing melts unstoppable champions faster than Malfeasance with Vorpal and Four Time's the Charm

@blitzacrown13 Ай бұрын

How can we have this handcanon ? GM ? But can we loot it today or we must wait an other GM ?

@mrskeletonx8255 Ай бұрын

Crimson was incredible on console then it was nerfed, haven't used it since. The flinch problem didnt exist before.

@fotis3v480 Ай бұрын

Crimson was a tumor, you automatically won Vs everything that didn't outrange you by 10m due to the flinch it dished out. It's actually balanced now and you can duel it.

@ajacarlson3069 Ай бұрын

it's called an auditory processing issue! i also struggle to understand lyrics or things ppl say lmao. i need subtitles for any movie or tv show i watch bc otherwise i have no fucking clue what ppl are saying

@joemk8437 Ай бұрын

Try the last dance iv been cooking with it all weekend

@gol_d.kralii2124 Ай бұрын

What's best way to get wardens law at the moment?

@Aurkus23 Ай бұрын

Only drops from Nightfalls, can get them from Zavala if you have them unlocked.

@hatsu4679 Ай бұрын

I do believe that is why controller players love Crimson because I am a fellow controller player and aiming in PvP is trash sometimes so if you give yourself a little bit of aim assist aim at their chest and then let the kick of the gun hit their head it's easy headshots with little work you just got to pull down ever so slightly on the joystick fur optimal recoil

@satanthedevil3674 Ай бұрын

I got three of them with perpetual motion and kill clip 🙃

@corbincox3134 Ай бұрын

Gernaderjake please tell me what is the name of that ship you use I really like it. Or if anyone else knows please let me know

@ratgator Ай бұрын

hit 10k on mine over the weekend

@DevinHandleyy Ай бұрын

For me personally, any hand cannon that isn’t not forgotten feels like trash in the crucible right now. That’s how hard it is for me to put it back down. It feels so damn crazy STILL

@theveryamericaneagle3657 Ай бұрын

Bruh next season any gun that isn't legacy and you can still get will be enhancable. I know yiu like NF but a wardens law with moving target an zen moment enhanced is gonna be a monster next season

@fotis3v480 Ай бұрын

You have to be a controller player at sub 100 fov. No hate I'm stingy about a NF cause i consider it the hardest gun to ever get in d2 due to the OG gatekeeping at 4500-5500 with the horrid matchmaking but at high FOv they are shit.. Nf is usable due to zen moment at least.

@theveryamericaneagle3657 Ай бұрын

@@fotis3v480 granted watch what bungie does that they will make NF a competitive reward.

@ratgator Ай бұрын

@@theveryamericaneagle3657that's my roll just hit 10k enhancement gonna be nice but ain't that literally 1 aa and 5 stability between both perks 💀

@theveryamericaneagle3657 Ай бұрын

@@ratgator shhh it's gonna be okay :')

@handsomeivan1980 Ай бұрын

Personally making the HC's burst really loses what can make a HC godtier, the ability to peakshoot. Having a burst weapon would impact this a lot

@otisdriftwood7094 Ай бұрын

Exactly. They are basically just low zoom pulse rifles but Crimson also has less range than a decently rolled 140. It maxes out at 31.5 with the catalyst.

@DemonsGaze Ай бұрын

Crimson got a nerf to the amount of flinch it caused in the last weapon update around Into the Light. It used to be amazing on console but im assuming its nerf has caused it to become to hard to be consistent with.

@diontes1480 Ай бұрын

Absolutely not. The nerfs to Precision Auto Rifles and 120s makes it a demon in the right hands. If anything, I can tell that Crimson is messing with their aim clearer.

@Newmanowns Ай бұрын

Thanks for the carry Jake

@richardbuffolino9384 Ай бұрын

Crimson got a nerf so you take more flinch with it. Was maybe like a monthish ago.

@thetman920 Ай бұрын

I occasionally enjoy crimson on M&K, but warden's doesn't feel great, partially because of the whole 5 second reload time.

@lumas69 Ай бұрын

Warden's law is a laser beam bro. You gotta almost ignore the visuals entirely the kick is a lie the gun don't move

@chcankacz1533 29 күн бұрын

I have no adept version masterwork range And movie And zen Very danger gun

@Thatdutchguy98 Ай бұрын

Frost watching this like wtf jake 😂😂😂😂

@chrishatfield7421 Ай бұрын

Hahah he said im like uuuuuppppp

@StangLX351 Ай бұрын

I’m also seriously challenged with music.

@bragofrost4521 Ай бұрын

My wardens hae 96 range with adept range mod 😁

@itzgamedrame8888 Ай бұрын

ifrostbolt watching this video shockingly lol

@xtusk Ай бұрын

How do you get it?

@chcankacz1533 29 күн бұрын

Nightfall

@itsthatoneguy2921 Ай бұрын

@GrenadierJake if you would have put on an anti flinch on for your crimson, it could be a lot easier to get head shots.

@IoRomulus Ай бұрын

Frost could have used this roll during ranDIM 💀

@ACEFROMMW Ай бұрын

I feel like crimson is more of a 6v6 gun and on controller it is better if you hipfire it

@Valassiraptor Ай бұрын

After the 69th listen of a song, I have to look up the lyrics or else I mumble too.

@zaccarman6683 Ай бұрын

Definitely not broken but does feel great. Probably one of my favorite pvp weapons but as a not sweaty I can tell you taking it into trials isn't gonna net free lighthouse it's not THAT good. Reload even with mods is meh and low mag hurts when up against back to back opponents

@sadovuato 26 күн бұрын

Wardens law is over and you can convince otherwise

@Hollywood14NZ Ай бұрын

How is Jake hoodless? I need that

@telesto912 Ай бұрын

Biggest jug of water ever. lol.

@BombStars Ай бұрын

Alright, who broke Jake?

@JoseRodriguez-rn3mu Ай бұрын

Does he play any other games?

@manueljuarez5045 Ай бұрын

Yooo Jake. Can you start a go fund me for Coolguy. His recent video about his heart issues, thank God he’s doing well. He mention he’s got a lot a hospital bills I’m guessing. Wonder if we could rally the D2 community to help out our boi.

@NoBloons Ай бұрын

5 comments, 4 of them being bots, all within the one minute of this being posted. One of the five said "First" however this child is wrong. Because two of the four bots came first. Therefore, the bots were first.

@JoseRodriguez-rn3mu Ай бұрын

Why does he say wardens law like that lol

@MrOttcL Ай бұрын

I do NOT like crimson . Gun feels terrible in PvP and PvE maybe you gotta chest aim like you said

@bijnov84 Ай бұрын

only good on sticks

@Dsmgreg925 Ай бұрын

I tried hard to enjoy this gun. It's too boring for me. Left too may people 1 shot

@neilgrant9090 Ай бұрын

Yeah 90% of lyrics are unknown to me, I blame dyslexia brain.

@Mystic_6666 Ай бұрын

Crimson fell off so hard

@youngreezy7353 29 күн бұрын

How?

@Mystic_6666 29 күн бұрын

@@youngreezy7353 it's just not good it's only good at close range and smh auto and sidearms just beat it in every way

@Daemonic6 Ай бұрын

For now burst HCs feels and plays in PvP like a trash

@cadrex1405 29 күн бұрын

Crimson is liked by average skill players.

@minerplayzgd5334 Ай бұрын

What percentage of those "everyone" are controller players? 😂

@smokesxreen9490 28 күн бұрын

I’m a controller player, prefer that way for all games can’t get used to KB&M just feels weird to me.

@talltalltree4659 Ай бұрын

wtf is that aim assist on that thing lmao looked like you had to tug away from the decoys

@SorventTV Ай бұрын

im a strong believer crimson is SOO good i have like 2k kills on it and i take long ass 4 to 6 month long breaks lol its just such a good weapon once you get a handle on it.

@mikeyderbs Ай бұрын

First

@zazekgaming Ай бұрын

People who like it are noobs holding hands constantly and they never engage in 1v1s - that's exactly why they like burst hc's. For teamshooting crimson is probably op.