Gestetner 230

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J Fisher

J Fisher

7 жыл бұрын

Vintage Gestetner duplicator 230 printing from a master stencil made from standard digital Risograph master paper, and cut using a thermal printing fax machine. This was just a fun experiment to see whether modern Riso masters could be used with an old Gestetner, as the original stencils are no longer made. The process is not straight forward, but it is possible! Documents can be scanned using a normal fax machine loaded with Risograph master paper so that the machine 'prints' onto the shiny side, but the cut stencil then has to be attached to the silk carrier of the Gestetner with the Polyethylene side facing outwards, so the image is printed in reverse. Therefore the original document to be scanned needs to be either printed as a mirror image, or made on a typewriter with a sheet of carbon behind the typing paper, placed face-up so that the rear of the document can be scanned.
Has anyone else had any luck with using these old duplicating machines? The original stencils are easy to cut on a typewriter and they work very well. The feed mechanism on this duplicator needs some adjustment, and probably some new rubber pads, as it will often send multiple sheets of paper through.

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@bravodelta3083
@bravodelta3083 3 жыл бұрын
Crikey, I can smell the spirit ink even now, nearly 40 years later. Great post; thank you!
@ParArdua
@ParArdua 2 жыл бұрын
So it was the INK that had that beautiful smell. It didn’t last long, but it has such special memories. I can’t imagine how teachers fought over the Gestetner machine when I witness their territorial disputes over the multi-function printer copier.
@bravodelta3083
@bravodelta3083 2 жыл бұрын
@@ParArdua I swear we had one member of office staff whose sole purpose was to guard the photocopier against being used :)
@lotstodo
@lotstodo 3 жыл бұрын
I used this in the late 70s, I even had this on my resume along with the TWX machine operating. It was the kind of ink that got you high. You slipped it on these rollers, added your stencil then cranked the copies out. You typed on this this kind of stencil paper, if you made a mistake you had to use this toxic liquid paper stuff, let it dry, then retype. Gads
@theoccupier1652
@theoccupier1652 2 жыл бұрын
We still used them in the very late 70's in the Royal Navy ... I expect the were in use for the whole of the 80's as well
@uluhitah12
@uluhitah12 8 ай бұрын
I remember this machine, when I was in elementary school back in year 2006
@andrewleung6282
@andrewleung6282 8 ай бұрын
Today, Gestetner makes copy machines. I just saw one of their modern day copiers at the Los Angeles Public Library (El Sereno branch).
@alz123alz
@alz123alz 7 жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL. WHERE CAN I FIND THE STENCIL PAPER. THANKS
@eddiedeleon2425
@eddiedeleon2425 3 жыл бұрын
the power of time, man adaptating too trying to catch the all the wings of love ngayon screenshots na lang okei na
@NATURELIVREUNIQUE
@NATURELIVREUNIQUE 4 жыл бұрын
Que de souvenirs liés à ce matériel... Je suis à la recherche de stencils et accessoires. Si on peut me renseigner. Merci.
@adinshankar7549
@adinshankar7549 5 жыл бұрын
thanks
@rodrigosolano5536
@rodrigosolano5536 3 жыл бұрын
hola un saludo desde colombia me gusta su video
@abdulharithibrahim4733
@abdulharithibrahim4733 3 жыл бұрын
I am very familiar with this mode of printing of the 60s and 70s...in fact I know how to use it
@NTRprojects
@NTRprojects Жыл бұрын
Hey J Fisher, is there a way to get in contact with you? I got my hands on a broken cyclostyle that I want to restore and would bei interested to learn more about the general working principle of the machine and the paper you used in this Video. Looking forward to hear from you
@jfisher6829
@jfisher6829 Жыл бұрын
Drop me an email 😊 Jfisheresq@aol.com
@ParArdua
@ParArdua 2 жыл бұрын
I used to love the smell when the teachers would pass out notes and papers to us. Want to find out how they cut the master, and the liquid spirit used.
@juliakrine2644
@juliakrine2644 Жыл бұрын
Yeah!! I wanna buy that stuff. Just to smell it each day
@freemasonry666
@freemasonry666 8 ай бұрын
Agree the smell is memorable
@kl5608
@kl5608 5 жыл бұрын
Hello J. Fisher, Thank you for sharing the video. Do you think one could use the stencil w/image made using a modern Riso Printer with this Duplicator? Thanks in advance ! K
@jfisher6829
@jfisher6829 5 жыл бұрын
I expect so - anything that will uses heat to burn an image might work. I do not have access to such equipment, but please let us know how you get on! Would a standard laser printer work also?? next experiment perhaps.... J
@jec_ecart
@jec_ecart 2 жыл бұрын
My school machine used to look like this.
@barbpainter267
@barbpainter267 2 жыл бұрын
I worked in the Technical laboratory at Gestetner in Tottenham Hale in 1965
@juliensegarra7575
@juliensegarra7575 4 жыл бұрын
Hello J. Fisher, thanks for sharing this Video! I just got a 300 and 330 Gestetner model and trying to get them running again. But cannot put my hands on an instruction manual, I know the model in your video is different but if you´ll be Kind enough to send its Manual, I´m sure it will still help me a lot to figure out some stuff :) All the best, J.
@tierra41
@tierra41 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i8mBYJqY2pa9poU.html
@tierra41
@tierra41 4 жыл бұрын
La Casa del Hijo de Ahuizote is in Mexico City, it was founded during era of Porfirio Diaz, where they printed anti-government literature.
@joseprey2762
@joseprey2762 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I recently got a gestetner 6 and would like to get it working again. Do you know any website or forum where to get information?
@nervioptico
@nervioptico 3 жыл бұрын
In facebook: Erwin Blok
@ANILKUMAR-pb3fb
@ANILKUMAR-pb3fb 5 жыл бұрын
where we buy this product gestestener 230
@janbogue764
@janbogue764 6 жыл бұрын
I hope you are still out there. I ran two of these in high school. I am trying to get one going now. Your video gave me hope. I ordered the Risograph stencil roll, and it appears that it really does the job. However, could you make a short video or comment on how you were able to use the thermal printing fax machine to cut the stencil. Was it an old school roll thermal paper machine or a plain paper thermal fax machine. I have a plain paper fax that uses the roll and take up roll carbon to print. Sure hope you can help me out. Thanks for being on KZfaq.
@jfisher6829
@jfisher6829 6 жыл бұрын
Hello! The fax machine I used was a plain paper thermal printing fax machine, with the carbon roll removed (but you have to tape up whatever mechanism it is which tells the machine that the roll is not present). The fax machine was used simply as a duplicator as if making a copy from a master document onto plain paper. The plain paper was swapped for a long (the length of the original Gestetner stencil) sheet of Riso paper which was folded and taped around a sheet of A4 paper. This set up took some experimenting with, so that the 'printed' area fell in the right place on the finished stencil with correct header length and width of stencil etc. The whole Riso/paper was passed through the fax and the image or document burned onto the film surface. This needs to be cut in reverse, or copied from a document printed in reverse, so that when the stencil is attached to the Gestetner machine, it will print the right way around. I hope this is of some help.
@janbogue764
@janbogue764 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining which fax machine. I was going to try one that uses roll paper. If you get time do another video on the whole process. I think several people would be happy to know alternative types of readily available stencils. The machines are coming back in style for their regular use as well as new forms of art. Thanks again.
@janbogue764
@janbogue764 6 жыл бұрын
When you take out the carbon roll did you load a stencil in the carbon roll's place. I have the roll of the risograph stencils. A little for on the stencil loading would be helpful. I have the fax machine. Thanks
@janbogue764
@janbogue764 6 жыл бұрын
A little more. Not a little for.
@janbogue764
@janbogue764 6 жыл бұрын
Did you use masking tape to hold the stencil on the Gestetner machine, or scotch tape, or some kind of white tape? I am restoring a Gestetner 180. Thanks again for your time. :-)
@sikapundwachristian2146
@sikapundwachristian2146 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Printers I am interested on Gestetner printing machine Can i get it and how much
@mmpoggs2033
@mmpoggs2033 4 жыл бұрын
Hi👋🏻did you restore this? I’m restoring my older version of this but not familiar with the screen making etc! Any advice?
@jfisher6829
@jfisher6829 4 жыл бұрын
I pretty much found it like this. I use digital risograph paper to make the stencils. I have an older version too, which is basically the same except for the paper feeding mechanism and this later model draws the ink automatically from a tube. If you want any specific help, let me know and I’ll do my best! J
@malonymilvar7351
@malonymilvar7351 Жыл бұрын
we have 3 gestetner models 320, 400 and 425 of which two models were dual function can operate manualy and electric driven motore.. the other model was manual only with plastic casing all were made in germany.. ww own a printing press operating for 4 decades but now its obsolete.. i missed those days..
@sajankuruvilla8995
@sajankuruvilla8995 Жыл бұрын
Can use water based ink?
@mrst4407
@mrst4407 3 жыл бұрын
Hi.. I’ve just found an old gestestner 230 in my celler which belonged to my dad. Can anyone tell me if it’s with anything ...thanks
@GirlSquadforever
@GirlSquadforever 3 жыл бұрын
Hi my last name is Gestetner he is my cousin
@princenameless
@princenameless 2 жыл бұрын
Where does one get the stencil plastic for this, how do you make the master copy?
@jfisher6829
@jfisher6829 2 жыл бұрын
Check the comments, there is a lot of detail in them, but basically you will struggle to find the original stencil papers now - they are no longer made as far as I know. Risograph stencil paper was used in this video, which is readily available but which can not be cut on a typewriter (like the originals) but needs to be cut using some sort of thermal process. Good luck 👍
@miriamtate3695
@miriamtate3695 5 жыл бұрын
Hello J. Fisher: I recently got a Gestetner 230 and I am trying to clean it and use it. Can you help me? I have a few questions and I would appreciate if you can e-mail me a copy of the manual. That will be very helpful. Other question is where do you get the ink for the machine? Do you mix it or what brand do you use? I have been searching online without luck.
@jfisher6829
@jfisher6829 5 жыл бұрын
I think the only way to use these machines is to find inks/stencils which are used for other applications. I have not looked for any ink yet as I have a small amount of old stock Gestetner ink. The Riso master stencil paper which I use to cut the stencils is readily available. If you message me with your email address, I will send you a pdf of the manual. Best wishes.
@miriamtate3695
@miriamtate3695 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your reply,@@jfisher6829 . Can you send me the manual at atate66@gmail.com and thank you so much!
@geraldinemccrisken9945
@geraldinemccrisken9945 3 жыл бұрын
aah anyone remember the gestener shop in great victoria street below the europa
@elisalinares5955
@elisalinares5955 Жыл бұрын
Wow my parents and I are watching this video, they are telling me stories about how they used to use this machine to make exams
@user-yc3ry9rm1g
@user-yc3ry9rm1g 7 ай бұрын
Is this available
@josephlilley4385
@josephlilley4385 7 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am thinking of getting one of these (230 T), do you have the manuals? Would there be a way for me to copy them? It would be nice to keep these old machines in use.
@jfisher6829
@jfisher6829 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have a manual for it and would gladly scan and email a copy. Good luck!
@josephlilley4385
@josephlilley4385 7 жыл бұрын
That would be super helpful. I can be contacted via my website - www.theholodeck.co.uk
@josephlilley4385
@josephlilley4385 7 жыл бұрын
I now have the machine here - I am not sure if it is complete. Excited to see the manual :)
@irmasepulveda9959
@irmasepulveda9959 7 жыл бұрын
Hello, excuse me, I have a similar model of mimeo, could you send me the manuel please? It would be a great help
@jfisher6829
@jfisher6829 6 жыл бұрын
send me your email address and I will forward a copy
@amorjyotikalita5443
@amorjyotikalita5443 3 жыл бұрын
How mash amount
@donbeary6394
@donbeary6394 3 жыл бұрын
the Xerox of the day ;-) .. didn't show inking of the rollers, and Mom cut the stencils on the typewriter .. I remember turning that handle .. :-)
@jfisher6829
@jfisher6829 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed - the original stencils were cut on a typewriter, though they are hard to find now. This model is self-inking; the tube of ink is inserted into the side of the machine and ink is pumped mechanically on to the rollers, unlike the earlier models where it had to be applied manually.
@donbeary6394
@donbeary6394 3 жыл бұрын
@@jfisher6829 oh yes, that was it .. now i remember .. you had to move a slider or pump a lever or something to squeeze the tube
@ABCkids673
@ABCkids673 6 жыл бұрын
machine price in India
@amandinegauthier1712
@amandinegauthier1712 Жыл бұрын
Bonjour, c'est génial de voir cette machine en route, je viens justement de m'en acheter une mais je n'ai pas de manuel, serait il possible de me l'envoyer par email s'il vous plaît ? Merci beaucoup
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