Get the most out of that horrid miter gauge that came with your tablesaw

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Steve Ramsey - Woodworking for Mere Mortals

Steve Ramsey - Woodworking for Mere Mortals

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Those cheapie miter gauges that come with affordable table saws can leave much to be desired. In this video I'll show you how you can still get great results with it.
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@nohandlebarmtb
@nohandlebarmtb 11 ай бұрын
Humblest woodworker in YT. No fancy equipment, no fancy tools. Focused at the real craft and not blowing money on tools..
@alans1816
@alans1816 2 жыл бұрын
One other advantage of the miter gauge fence is that the kerf in the fence shows you exactly where it will cut. This makes measurement easier and more precise than to the blade.
@stevepark5504
@stevepark5504 2 жыл бұрын
To quickly reset the miter gauge to 90*, I turn it upside down, insert the runner in the table slot, slide the head up against the saw table, tighten the lock.
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 2 жыл бұрын
That works nicely if you have a symmetrical runner... if (e.g. DeWalt) you have a t-track piece of cr@p... Mind you, there are nice Chinese mitre gauges for $100 or so... and I'm ready for another bout of GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome). 😂
@williamw1907
@williamw1907 2 жыл бұрын
Good tip
@researchandbuild1751
@researchandbuild1751 2 жыл бұрын
nice trick!
@jamespilbeam209
@jamespilbeam209 2 жыл бұрын
Only works if table is square to blade. About a one in a hundred fifty chance of working
@pawpawstew
@pawpawstew 2 жыл бұрын
Tip for the newbies: If you are using the nail trick to raise the edge of your miter fence rail, lay the rail flat on the table. If you whack it positioned as shown, you'll bend the rail.
@harrydoherty8299
@harrydoherty8299 Жыл бұрын
i updated the miter gauge on my table saw right after i bought my first table saw . so much better .
@ifscottcanyoucan
@ifscottcanyoucan 2 жыл бұрын
Even after woodworking and watching your videos for over 6 years, I still learn from these "beginner" vids. You have inspired me tremendously.
@j.morrison73
@j.morrison73 Жыл бұрын
After many years of using a table saw, i feel so inadequate never knowing (or possibly have forgotten after 50 odd years of working on a tabletop) about the alignment set screw on the underside. Glad to have seen your video.
@M.Elyami
@M.Elyami 4 ай бұрын
I was gonna apologize for not subscribing, but it turned out that I am! 😅 thank you.
@jacquelineneerdaels3501
@jacquelineneerdaels3501 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for being straight forward and cutting out all the small chat. REALLY appreciated
@jimbop101
@jimbop101 2 жыл бұрын
Sponsored or not, never a bad idea to cover basics and safety. Thanks Steve.
@russhamel
@russhamel 2 жыл бұрын
Most helpful. Out of all the tools in my shop, the table saw is the one I avoided for the longest time. BTW, I'm 67, retired, and brand new to woodworking and anything DIY for that matter. In fact when I was a kid, I couldn't tell you the difference between a hammer and a screwdriver. Now thanks to your WWMM course and all your other videos, I've literally unleashed the Mr. Fix-it character inside of me and I'm having A BLAST. And as an added bonus, my wife is THOROUGHLY impressed with my new skills! Gotta love that! Thanks again and again Steve!
@billgiles3261
@billgiles3261 2 жыл бұрын
An early lesson was a piece of pine in the solar plexus. Fortunately just winded me and nothing more. But never used the mitre guide and the fence together again.
@brianbelliveau5551
@brianbelliveau5551 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job Steve and happy birthday to Dad
@harrypowers9412
@harrypowers9412 Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, I’ve been watching you for several years and haven’t left a message before. I ENJOY watching you and always benefit from your videos. Even though I subscribe to many woodworking channels, I’ve never canceled (even though often just temporarily) my subscription to your channel; which I’ve actually done to most of the others. You seem to have a very likable personality and appear to enjoy helping others. Many thanks for your efforts.
@dogface6040
@dogface6040 2 жыл бұрын
I love the quiet message conveyed by the rusty implements. Cute!
@bigronxxxx
@bigronxxxx 2 жыл бұрын
probably because they don't get much use anymore to busy with podcasts if you want to see a build video like before you have to pay for class
@Metroid-rg9pn
@Metroid-rg9pn 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you're doing a sponsor again after what you've said about them in past!
@MrFrank0211
@MrFrank0211 2 жыл бұрын
he didn't like the lack of freedom because he didn't have fun doing them. In this case it seems they were loose enough to let him crack some jokes between the mandatory script. So I can see why he accepted. Good for him!
@dtemp132
@dtemp132 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes we gotta do things at work we don't like... bills don't pay themselves.
@Duci1989
@Duci1989 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised he didn't do anything really extreme with the sponsor. If you see the channel commentiquette that guy does some truly bizarre skits for Nord they are genius
@jscook54
@jscook54 2 жыл бұрын
That old phone and computer in the ad were so funny! Good video lesson. Thanks.
@frederickwolf8413
@frederickwolf8413 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!! I learned so much about using a table saw with a miter gage from this video. Where were you 62 years ago when I started using my Dad's old 8" home craft saw that is older than I am?
@manyirons
@manyirons 2 жыл бұрын
When squaring the mitre gauge with the blade, be sure to avoid the teeth, which are proud of the disk. If you're not careful one of them can skew the angle and mess up your cuts.
@jakes4680
@jakes4680 2 жыл бұрын
This is why we love you, Steve. I usually use my miter saw for cross cuts because there is too much slop in the miter gauge on my table saw. I never though of putting some tape on there to stabilize it. Thank you!
@steviecator2108
@steviecator2108 2 жыл бұрын
I have used a few different table saws. I'm no expert; I do woodwork for fun and for home improvement, but I always find I learn something new watching your videos. You present in a way that is entertaining and most importantly not condescending. I am a long time viewer and I suspect I will be until the end of your videos or the end of KZfaq, whichever comes first! Many thanks
@josevillanueva6992
@josevillanueva6992 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. As always good tips. Greetings from El Salvador. Central America.
@SpideyScott72
@SpideyScott72 2 жыл бұрын
A couple tips that made me wonder why I hadn't thought of that, such as the way you lined up the combination square on the lumber and against the blade. Another with the mitered wood being used as a stop block...both A HA moments for me compliments of Steve Ramsey. Thanks, loving these tips videos!
@davidzindler5858
@davidzindler5858 10 ай бұрын
I've been getting into woodworking the last few months and wow, you've saved me so much time, money, and probably some fingers.
@waynedollery9946
@waynedollery9946 2 жыл бұрын
My Dad just gifted me a cheap tablesaw. I've not used one very much and these videos are full of really good instructions for a noobie table saw user.
@BC-ul1xf
@BC-ul1xf 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video! I just got a table saw for an early Christmas present and I love learning all the different things I can do with it!
@94233psu399154112333
@94233psu399154112333 2 жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of woodworkers, but Steve continues to be the best ‘explainer.’
@CathLabtech
@CathLabtech Ай бұрын
I loved this video! Thank you! 🙏🏻
@natenichols9737
@natenichols9737 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I was wondering how I could learn to use the miter guage that came with my saw before purchasing a fancy one. One thing I was thinking while watching the video was, "I'll just use the fence as a stop block!" I'm just getting started in my woodworking hobby. Thanks for pointing out that using the fence in such a manner is a poor idea.
@johnanthony2545
@johnanthony2545 2 жыл бұрын
These are all good tips. Keep it safe out there and enjoy your tools.
@Damon_Barber
@Damon_Barber 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Steve! Great info, as usual! I always learn something new while watching your videos!
@XxBloggs
@XxBloggs 5 ай бұрын
Using a GRR Gripper is a good idea particularly if you want to be near the fence with a narrow cut
@listerd93
@listerd93 2 жыл бұрын
You're such a godsend Steve! Only thanks to you have I had the confidence to use my tablesaw effectively and safely. Thanks again 😁
@GarbageKnight
@GarbageKnight Жыл бұрын
The other COST advantage to the Miter gauge, is not having to spend another 600 dollars on a good miter saw. This is where people get the idea getting into wood working is expensive. I am starting on a the craftsman table saw, that cost me a whopping 139 dollars. yeah the miter gauge is MEH at best. but i can make a better one. SO THANKS FOR SOME OF THESE TIPS. it will improve the work of the little bench top table saw 100%
@colinwalker7204
@colinwalker7204 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, tbh though sadly I've not been anywhere near my woodworking tools since the cost of MDF and Plywood sheets doubled in the UK, every planned project I had was immediately put on indefinite hold.
@simonzero3815
@simonzero3815 2 жыл бұрын
You explain things so simply and easy to understand. Thank you, i have learnt so much from you. Much appreciated. Si
@bruceschneider4928
@bruceschneider4928 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, Steve. I recently bought a Rigid table saw, so this video is exactly what I needed.
@tomfull6637
@tomfull6637 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve for the best so far (watched 50+?..) concise, condensed, tutorial for safe! precise and easy cutting. Setting up a wood working shop in a shed here to renovate an old (1901) missionary house. Build with a timber log structure. Starting any day now. I saved your video as a “go back to”-reminder to keep me safe and accurate! My children appreciate me being cautious now at old age. 🙏🏻 Anders/Sweden
@stephennadworny8401
@stephennadworny8401 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content Steve. I'm a hobbyist and appreciate your sensible approach to woodworking. Cheers from Canada!
@peterhaas1336
@peterhaas1336 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best table saw video I have seen. Great tips for using the miter gauge, but more importantly, it is an outstanding table saw SAFETY video. Love your work, Steve!
@conrat2000
@conrat2000 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I especially liked the mitering tip! Please keep up the great work.
@mikeandlucky
@mikeandlucky 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for staying true to the "Woodworking for Mere Mortals creed" of enjoying the wonderful hobby and art of woodworking without the necessity of expensive equipment that is out of the reach for many of us.
@grandaygain
@grandaygain 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the phone, laptop, and desktop images. You rock like the Rock of Ages. Oh, and these were some insightful table saw tips for using the miter gauge. Thanks
@TubeHammel
@TubeHammel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Steve. I have been a hobby wood worker for more than 40 years. I learned some new things here! It is never too late to learn.
@brianfoley4328
@brianfoley4328 2 жыл бұрын
I'm new to wood working......this is very helpful....Thank You.
@MichaelDBauer
@MichaelDBauer 2 жыл бұрын
Even though your videos have some length to them, they are always filled with good information and no dross. Thanks.
@RenatoVargas
@RenatoVargas 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I appreciate all the knowledge that you share with us beginners. Awesome!!
@timothymbess
@timothymbess 2 жыл бұрын
5:16 - on stop blocks like this, I always nibble off the bottom inside corner (the part your workpiece is pressed against) to create a little sawdust pocket. That way, you're not accumulating extra dust in between your workpiece and your stop block. Just clipping off maybe 1/8th of an inch at a 45 degree angle is enough to create that little void and doesn't remove too much of the stop block as to make it impractical.
@christopherpavlicas
@christopherpavlicas 2 жыл бұрын
Good point. Even more important to make this recess on your stop blocks at the miter saw where sawdust collects more quickly.
@johnmeinhardt-jensen7713
@johnmeinhardt-jensen7713 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your tips/pointers I know have a Mitre Gauge on my Saw Table that’s actually useful
@billybike57
@billybike57 2 жыл бұрын
Always get a ton ideas and hints. Thanks a ton!
@DrFunke
@DrFunke 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that table saw was over ten years ago. Time flies. Thanks for getting me started Steve!
@amittyagi9171
@amittyagi9171 8 ай бұрын
I am a newbie and learning a lot from you. I just put the fence to miter gauge and it’s working great. Many thanks for all you do.
@Anonymous-is2qb
@Anonymous-is2qb 8 ай бұрын
You're videos are great Steve. Always very helpful 👌
@Digidoc316
@Digidoc316 Жыл бұрын
A suggestion when installing an auxiliary miter fence is to place the board on two playing cards before screwing it to the miter gauge. This prevents the board from dragging on the table, amplifying any clearance between the miter gauge and the miter slot and reduces drag for a smoother cut. The amount of twist in the miter slot is severely limited by the length of the auxiliary miter fence. When making thin cuts, use a zero clearance sled when possible. If you haven't constructed one yet, clamp a board, that has been trued up, vertically on the rip fence before the blade and measure from that board. The clamp prevents the gage block from moving with the work and provides clearance so that the blade will not bind on the cutoff.
@reapertutorials1947
@reapertutorials1947 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve 1 million views (at least) on every video you post. WWMM has truly inspired me to get into woodworking. Because you simply make it look fun. Then I get to try things and though they are tougher than you make them seem at first, they really make you learn and grow. Mate you are a legend.
@runningpanda6570
@runningpanda6570 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for all your time and effort!
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tips, Steve! Thanks a lot! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@DJMankiewicz
@DJMankiewicz 2 жыл бұрын
My neighbor gave me a table saw that needs a lot of work, this video gave me some great ideas to rehab the accessories and get a bit more life out of it! Thanks!
@jkingofthechicken2217
@jkingofthechicken2217 8 ай бұрын
Great tip for putting tape on the mitre track. Going to try that with my wobbly mitre guage!
@glg3945
@glg3945 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great information! Peace and Good Fortune and Good Health to you and your family.
@cuervojones4889
@cuervojones4889 6 ай бұрын
I'm simply amazed how easy you make this look. I've had two table saws. They both bind, jam and won't cut. One is brand new. I cut one piece of 5/8" thick pine with it and now it hates me. My cuts are NEVER that smooth. It's a fight to get anything to go thru the thing. I really wish I could cut everything on my mitre saw.
@timb4569
@timb4569 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is awesome, I love how you don't talk down to the viewers. Keep up the great work!!
@okgentfarmer
@okgentfarmer Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate table saws with rip fences that have a built-in flip plate. The 2" flip plate on my Dewalt 7491RS provides a nice buffer between the rip fence and the blade. When not needed it stows out of the away instantly. Almost all of my crosscuts and miters cut are made on a 10" Dewalt DWE713 miter saw. I only resort to cross cutting and mitering on the table saw when the miter saw can't handle the size of the material.
@AZNPride420
@AZNPride420 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great for a beginner like me, thank you.
@malcolmhiho359
@malcolmhiho359 7 ай бұрын
This was a great video . Thank you for this content as it has me as a beginner.
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 2 жыл бұрын
Great video discussion/demonstration/lessons
@paulhobbs5804
@paulhobbs5804 9 ай бұрын
Great video! Definitely a newbie here and this bit of info could have very well just saved a few fingers. Many thanks and a great find
@jrchevy2500
@jrchevy2500 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the Info. I recently bought a table saw and this should hold me over until I save enough for my miter saw. Thank you.
@serenityyoga8687
@serenityyoga8687 9 ай бұрын
Love the channel 👌. I have had countless 'oh that's how I can fix this' moments. Excellent advice Thank you 👍
@krisdelisle
@krisdelisle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestions. We were cutting laminate and using the guide caused the pieces to bind, and occasionally kick and it actually cause me to be afraid of using the saw. Freehanding caused it to pinch. Wish I would have watched this earlier...
@yohanathandowns9057
@yohanathandowns9057 2 жыл бұрын
How to get the most use out of the miter Guage: Leave it in the holder on the saw unless you ABSOLUTELY have to
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Lots of great tips in this one!
@dcruicks1
@dcruicks1 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Matt...Steve rocks!!
@BrattonBuilt
@BrattonBuilt 2 жыл бұрын
Great video to review the basic...thanks.
@Scott_G
@Scott_G 2 жыл бұрын
The only comment I would add is to prop up the extension just enough (1/4" or so) to keep sawdust from building up at the bottom of it and messing up your alignment.
@mattrinne
@mattrinne 2 жыл бұрын
And from making that horrendous squawking noise. Wax beneath the extension helps with this.
@Timri3681
@Timri3681 2 жыл бұрын
A small chamfer on the bottom of the extension fence can help with that, in lieu of trying to mount it both evenly and on a prop. 😊
@uwillnevahno6837
@uwillnevahno6837 2 жыл бұрын
5:44 If I take just 1 thing away from this video it's THIS STATEMENT! I had this very bad idea as I begin down the path of working wood.
@Gbhmagic
@Gbhmagic 2 жыл бұрын
I have no room for a table saw sooo...circular saw it is. Blows that you are all the way out in Cali! Happy Bday to your dad! Also with the devices you pictured...im sure you are already safe.
@gwauk205
@gwauk205 Жыл бұрын
I am learning so much from you. Thank you 🙏🏻
@Mitch404
@Mitch404 2 жыл бұрын
.. This is brillant. I had this exact problems: an OK table saw, but a very poor quality miter gauge, somehow the t-slot was bigger than the sliding t and a bad fence. I just tried masking tape, and it's a tight fit now ! I somehow didn't even think about that. Thanks a lot for the tips !
@insanodad
@insanodad 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap this video was amazing. I have a cheap craftsman miter for my table saw and I did these upgrades and it just makes it so much better.
@joshdupont2209
@joshdupont2209 Жыл бұрын
I definitely need to make an extension fence and tighten my miter gauge for my table saw. I gotten into building stuff for the house I just bought and finding out more and more I need an extension fence. I don't think a crosscut sled fits the bill I need right now. I think and extension fence is better suited for my needs. Thanks a bunch
@scoobiedew82
@scoobiedew82 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff Steve!!
@ilive4livemusic
@ilive4livemusic 2 жыл бұрын
Love those modern devices you showed. And I didn’t realize you filmed at Bodega Bay.
@soujrnr
@soujrnr Жыл бұрын
Great stuff!! Thanks, Steve!!
@norm5785
@norm5785 2 жыл бұрын
Great refresher
@randsipe224
@randsipe224 2 жыл бұрын
Good advice for newbies. I’m beyond that stage, an experienced woodworker with a healthy respect for the dangers inherent in the table saw. That said a neighbor friend, no newbie, just showed me his table saw injury where he lost a pretty good chunk of his thumb. It was bad, really bad! Enough to make one retch just looking at it and enough to think the Saw Stop is worth the money and then some.
@mattrinne
@mattrinne 2 жыл бұрын
My dad lost his toes in a farm auger accident. Shortly after I was looking at table saws. I'm cheap but I paid the extra for a sawstop contractor because the cost of fingers and therapy and pain is beyond the cost differential of saws.
@woodsprout
@woodsprout 2 жыл бұрын
Scotch tape (that frosty clear office type) works well for me. As you apply each layer, press along the corner to start folding it over under the bar. My miter slot (not T type) has plenty of clearance underneath for the fold over.
@chipstick1973
@chipstick1973 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Ramsey for your informative and fantastically made videos. I’ve just recently bought an entry level table saw (which looks completely different to the saws used on KZfaq), but was able to set it up after watching you and the Stumpy Nubz channel. Have made my first cut, a four foot rip cut in 9mm ply. You guys make it look so easy, I can’t believe it’s taken me so long to get this tool.
@johngardner3441
@johngardner3441 2 жыл бұрын
What table saw did you get?
@chipstick1973
@chipstick1973 2 жыл бұрын
@@johngardner3441 it’s a make from Germany I think, Metabo- TKHS 315C.
@JuliusHiiden
@JuliusHiiden 2 жыл бұрын
those tips are so valuable for beginners like me
@kahoycrafts
@kahoycrafts 2 жыл бұрын
My Delta 36-725 miter gauge is actually pretty good. Nice that it works with my bandsaw too. But yeah, most of my other gauges are junk.
@johnm7469
@johnm7469 2 жыл бұрын
Good safety tips!
@professorred
@professorred 2 жыл бұрын
Just as a couple suggestions, but, First, check the fit of the gage in the slot. It’s impossible to get an accurate 90 when the gage is wobbling. Then when it’s good and solid, check and adjust for 90. Next, I like to start setting up the miter fence at the 45 first, extended past the blade to both for zero clearance and marking the kerf. Then, without moving the fence on the gage, turn the gage to 0. Next, leaving the screws in place for when I put it back, flip the fence, set it to just stick out past the blade, and screw it in. Then raise the blade and trim the end to make half of a zero clearance support. Reflip the fence, tighten the screws, and, done. That’s what works for me. Your results may vary. But, give it a try.
@thomassciurba5323
@thomassciurba5323 Жыл бұрын
I came across a much better miter gauge at a used tool store than my saw came with but unfortunately the rail was a little sloppy. I drilled and tapped some holes in the rail and installed some nylon set screws to tighten it up. Works great.
@marcobucci
@marcobucci 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Steve!
@petermeijer3019
@petermeijer3019 2 жыл бұрын
Good tips! Thanks Keep up the good work!!!
@pakde8002
@pakde8002 Жыл бұрын
My miter guage is pretty minimalistic but I can easily attach my fence to it which is pretty cool
@robertbamford8266
@robertbamford8266 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I learned to use a punch on the top of the too-small miter gauge rail. Spread it a bit. But the real lesson was dump the gauge that came with the saw as I soon as I could afford it. Silly cost saving by the manufacturer. AND - although you didn’t mention it - the second lesson was upgrade the rip fence (to Biesemeyer), which may be even more important to consider. Mine (a Craftsman from the 1980s) was difficult to clamp securely and almost impossible to clamp straight. I think what I spent on these two upgrades came in at substantially less than a more expensive saw that would have come with acceptable accessories. By the way, these lessons came after a frustrating period of assuming my technique was the (main) cause of problems. I assumed the saw and accessories were “true” and stayed “true”. Ha! Periodic checking was the third lesson.
@brianmosse
@brianmosse 2 жыл бұрын
Good tips, could save a lot of injury's.
@fireworxz
@fireworxz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and Happy Birthday to your dad🎂🍻
@dandeangeli9860
@dandeangeli9860 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. I just bought a new DeWalt job site saw that if pretty awesome except for an sloppy miter guage that is all but unusable. Your video will help me to make adjustments. Also I appreciate you forgoing distracting background music on the video.
@niklasasplund5155
@niklasasplund5155 2 жыл бұрын
Really useful video with a lot of nice tips!
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