I was waiting for an on-camera appearance from you....sadly not to be

You’re welcome!

This is what I’m hoping will fix my issues! How did you go about the testing process?

Indeed they do, however density and thicknesses are kept to a minimum to enable low published weight. Great if you have a high volume foot, and the right size, however unlikely at “try on”. Just thought we’d mention that….not all liners are built to the same recipe. 😊

No worries!

Glad to help!

Tend to agree!

How long do these liners last?

Sole don’t stock them. You can buy them directly from zip fit though.

We see no benefit of them at the moment, we sold thousands in the early 2000s, times have moved on.

​@smallzookeeper6180 care to expand on what you don't like about them?

@@dFrame06 everything else seems to tick more boxes.

It sounds suspiciously like the zero g tour pro will be a good platform for you with a narrow ankle and the front of the foot can be worked on to make it fit. I’d definitely expect to get at least a new footbed but probably also a new liner. If you can talk to the guys in sole that would be a good place to get your boot work done!

Fischer rc4 pro come with zip fit. Worth checking it out maybe

The footbeds should work with the new liner, unless the liner is vastly different.

Liners and footbeds are a host and parasite situation. Custom footbeds can be made by anyone, you included, getting the foot stabilised correctly is key, it's not about the words and tools, more about the skills to see the needs of your feet. Once done well, we move onto cooking liners, that's another bunch of skills.

YT wont let me post on the subject, and link to our article about it. Arggggh

Correct flex comes down to tibia length, flexibility, your weight and your ability to put that weight through the boot correctly. Talk to a boot fitter about it!

That shift pro boot has a massive heel pocket. Sole did a really amazing job squeezing the shell in around the heel for me which was a heck of a lot better than doing arts and crafts with tape and foam.

Hey Dan this is super subjective, perhaps the boot could be smaller, perhaps the heel of the shell could be pinched, perhaps a denser, thicker liner would help, perhaps you lack the dorsiflexion required in the boot so your heel is pulling up to hard as you lean forwards. Cham' is an amazing place to ski, and while here perhaps you could swing by and let us trouble shoot those issues and get things dialled. If not, we sincerely hope you'll find someone competent to help work through those parameters to solve them.

I'd love to drop by but my odds of making it to Chamonix at this time are almost nil I'm afraid! I'll just have to try a local bootfitter here in Vancouver...

The stock liner is very good. Best in class. If you need more space taken out then a thermo wrap would be the way to go.

​@@DaveSearle Well that's great news! Thank you very much! Great video series btw!

Best stock liner on the market bar none, by miles at the moment, that said, aftermarket options push the needle further again!

There might be some options for you depending where the point is. Best to go see a good boot fitter and talk to them.

Socks is a good question. I wear super thin socks for most of my pairs of boots. Thinner the better. I use the same type so can feel how things differ.

I’d say that is close to spot on. As long as you are comfortable enough with it slightly curled. You might be able to gain that little bit of extra length somehow with some modifications. I’m certain sole boot lab would be able to help!

@@DaveSearle Hey thx for the reply, think I’m aways from you guys unfortunately for some hands on help but I appreciate it

I’m looking forward to skiing it more

GFT is the best liner in the game, especially for touring boots.

It's clear that y'all haven't skied the zipfit GFT a lot and been watching too much Cody townsend. mine was the sweatiest liner I've ever had, constantly refreezing or getting close on multiday tours, the moisture management of the neoprene in toe box is terrible. Combined with a really stiff boot, the lack of any dampening from the cork feels like a bat to the shins-great for perfect conditions, not for standard Backcountry mixed bag conditions, and the power transmission is still not as good as a wrap liner and less comfortable, though it is very close. It also decreases walk ability similarly to a wrap liner and is twice as heavy. For single day touring for people who don't get along with a wrap liner, or who value the durability it's a cool option. I think most people would ski better with intuition tour wrap which while obviously not as durable, provides better access to the flex of a boot, a more precise fit than a tongue liner can provide, and manages moisture far better. Perhaps I have very sweaty feet, but the GFT is not perfect. It's good, and perhaps great for some people, but it's not in a different category as an intuition wrap.