We all should know that the Grand Caravan is Dodge's best seller I just don't know why they couldn't just redesign it and keep it at a low price.

That info about the Citroen DS being Goddess is a keeper. Me and my friends have been fans since the 50’s, and I’m sure none of us knew that before tonight.

It's sad to see the state Chrysler is in. I want them and dodge to take over the entire game. I hope chrysler pulls themselves out of it and regain that reputation they used to have.

DS is pronounced Déesse: Day Ess. I think that missing from your stats are the sales of these brands in China where 25% of worldwide car sales occur and that includes the Stellantis European brands. Finally, the Fiat Doblo is present in North America where it is sold as the Ram Promaster City.

I'm European and I really like the new PSA models, especially the new Citroen C3/Peugeot 208/Opel Corsa, the Citroen C5 Aircross, the new Peugeot 508 and the DS7 Crossback, which is Macron's personal vehicle! I am happy to see this merger happen but the Germans are all over the place trying to find weak spots in it! Yeah, as if VW hasn't already got 9 brands (VW, Audi, Bentley, Seat, Skoda, Lamborghini, Bugatti, Ducati, Scania)! And I have to say that it's a shame the Giulia and Stelvio don't sell. They are much better cars than we believe and they deserve better sales! And the "cheap and unluxurious" phrase goes with the territory, since Germans have this as their Modus Operandi for the base versions as well!

DS5 is one I would definitely buy. Too bad it’s discontinued like the 200 i own. 😩

I have never heard of DS, but if Chrysler want take cues from the DS9 design and make it the new 300 I would not be mad.

I really enjoy your videos.

10:22 I actually find the idea of a true 4x4 Panda starting at $20k quite interesting. If there was an aftermarket to support it with lift kits and gearing, it would be a great buy.

fiat doblo is sold in the us as the dodge promaster city

You should order the Sales figures of the Cars in order from highest to lowest. 9:40 Itll be easier to read. Nice video! Coming from the UK, been watching for awhile :)

I hope they start making better looking cars with some meaningful HP. Nice video. Looking forward to part two. 👍🏻👍🏻🇨🇦🇺🇸

TO MAKE IT SHORT FRENCH PSA BOUGHT FCA WHICH IS IN A TIGHT SPOT THIS YEARS WITH NOT ENOUGH R&D and new ELECTRIC CARS DEVELOPMENTS.. PSA IS A VERY STRONG GROUP OPEL IS NOW IN BETTER POSITION UNDER PSA CONTROL... PSA IS THE WINNER FOR ME

Makes perfect sense to discontinue your top selling vehicle and not replace it....(Dodge)

You made this video on my birthday

09:36 what about the Fiorino model? Been owning one for like 15 years and it's reliable as hell and there's tons of it in the market, especially Italy, France and Spain

Don't forget the "Imperial" brand; it may be in mothballs now, but they could do something with it. Chrysler sporadically built these high-line cars when they were flush, so it can't be overlooked if this "merger" works.

I personally love the new Stellanis name, it could even be a whole luxury brand since the name is fitting for it.

Yo mars what’s goood I been watching your videos since I picked up my 2007 rt with awd and I’ve noticed we have the same color red idk if that’s how yours came from the factory but mine came with that red I don’t see a lot of chargers with that red stock from the factory from the 06-09 charger generation just thought it was interesting and something u may have thought about

I’m Italian and French, no worries about miss pronouncing the brands names. We miss pronounce many American brands too ;) PSA group isn’t a joke, get ready because these people are not F around!!! Opel is just the beginning

Scotty Kilmer hates this channel 🤣🤣🤣

Citroen and DS 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

Note about the prices: in Europe prices include sales tax/VAT, which in most EU countries is about 20%. So when you hear a European price in US dollars, you still have to subtract that 20% to get to the US list prices without sales tax. Some countries (mainly in Scandinavia and the Netherlands) also add hefty carbon/pollution taxes, so prices of non-EV cars with big engines from those countries are even harder to compare to US prices. UK prices do seem to make a better comparison to the USA.

Strange that for a N-A view on the Stellantis Group there's no mention or picture of the Fiat Fullback pick up ...

Interesting to think that there is a glimmer of hope in a distant best case scenario something at least mediocre could come from Lancia, again that’s only the ultimate best case scenario.

I like the Stellantis announced Chrysler Airflow electric vehicle for 2025.

They also should have continued the Journey - maybe rebranded as a Chrysler. Great reliable family with loads of storage.

The Pandas would have been a hit.

They have good engineers, its up to the management if they will grow. I am a Citroen fan, but I also like italian engineering and styling. If you ask me, its a better group than Vw because its more flexible and it has more affordable cars.

The low horsepower vehicles are meant for the European market due to the tight streets and alleys in many cities and villages. I'll really miss the Grand Caravan name. I can still remember seeing the mothers with their first generation Caravans and Voyagers parked in the school parking lot waiting to pick up their kids as I'd wait for the bus. It really makes no sense to discontinue such a great seller that has been a legend for almost 40 years, unless FCA is doing it to let the Chrysler brand grow seeing Chrysler is called the "people mover" brand.

As a point of semantics, the DS is properly pronounced Dey S in French.

7:19 : DS is pronounced [dé-èss] in french, not [dé-sé]. Basically it's exactly like in English, but the D is dé, and not di (or "dee" if you use English-like spelling).

Fiat should’ve brought the panda 4x4 to the us. It would’ve chewed into the Japanese minitruck craze that was in full swing a couple years ago

Stellantis major shareholder is still Italian, not PSA. Basically the Italians control Stellantis like they controlled FCA before. FCA major shareholder was Exor (Fiat), and now Exor is the major shareholder of Stellantis (14,4% vs 7.2% of PSA). So nothing really changed the company is still controlled by Italians (former Fiat).

I honestly believe this merger is going to turn out great! But i‘m not 100% sure if chrysler will survive

All ICE car manufactureres will face a hard time with the strong EV growth in the near future. None of the brands really have a convincing momentum moving to BEVs except the PSA brands. And this mean they will be late to the party. Lancia is only a shadow of its former self.

Marspeed giving me grade 9 French flashbacks

The Panda probably would have sold well in North America. Yeah it's probably the Jeep Renegade, but still!

Doblo and Talento are reshape/rebadge Promaster and the Tipo is a Dart

The power and sales numbers of the europeen models are a bit off

Fca the best

the worst name change ever i swear that name is so gross and contemporary , i wish we could get a girthy name or maybe a more modernist name

Hold did u say a 8.3 0-60. Srt might hav to jump on dat tune it up rlly quick Dey should rlly let srt tune Dey cars up so Dey b fast ass hell 😈😈👿

I don't think we will see much of these new brands in the US as America's standard of cars are very different from europ.

We need a 300 SUV 👌🏽

What do I think about the merger you say? I'm annoyed! Greatly. When I first heard wind of it, I was like let it not be, I'm glad the Nissan deal fell through and was hoping for the same here, it unfortunately did not pan out like I had hoped. I'm greatly concerned about the Italian brands taking a back seat to these French ones! Italians by far are better automotive makers, they may have lost sight of that and need to find it! I don't think Stellaris is where it's at. Many think FCA is just Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Jeep and RAM Trucks but there's so much more than meets the eye. They do a number of outsourcing work for Daimler AMG and Volkswagen in automotive lighting and some powertrain development! The common rail injection system wouldn't be a staple today if FIAT hadn't developed the working concept in the beginning! Fiat has a substantial impact on the development cars of cars, but I hope they find their feet in the future of automation. I vehemently disagree with autonomising vehicles but there's also hydrogen fuels to look forward to! It ain't new tech, has been there since the early 20th century but it could be the future if automakers can get their heads out of the electric/electrification BUBBLE! It's a serious distraction!

Among the brands here, I think Abarth will be dropped, and Chrysler & Dodge will be merged / intermixed.

Ello!

I can't help but be skeptical about this merger. PSA has absolutely no clue what sells in the North American market.

Why would Dodge discontinue their best selling vehicle?

Okay they first few times I get pronouncing all those names wrong but by now you could’ve looked up how to pronounce them

I will always refer to the whole company as Chrysler, I dont care who owns it lol

Chrysler was stupid for discontinuing the grand caravan why get rid of a vehicle that was selling well. Replacing it with the Chrysler voyager is definitely stupid as it’s a cheaper version of the Pacifica nothing unique about it

Alfa romeo giulia is car that is better than any car from the psa group

Peugeot and Citroen do design some very nice looking vehicles. The build quality of Peugeot was never seen as bad as Citroen despite both being sister brands. Peugeot have some stunning looking cars just now, DS too. Americans are wanting big engined V8's and wince at the thought of a 4 banger. But these small displacement 4 cylinder modern European turbo charged petrol engines can put out a lot of power and return very good economy depending on driving style. V8's sound cool and an American institution but they are thirsty and not even that economical to manufacture never mind run. What Americans call small in car terms every one else calls normal 🤣😂😅.

Have you heard that GM is suing FCA for sabotage or something petty

Too bad these brands won’t change in the merger because they’re very low on build quality.

Hi

Chrysler Fiat and peugeot. Scotty Kilmer calls them The Three stooges of the Auto industry.

Stellantis:- more than just a blue pill....well, only slightly

Hello

2023........ ET MAINTENANT ?

DS is actually pronounced "Day-Ess" in French

Him: "DS is pronounced Dé sé in French" French people: !!?

But why would dodge get rid of one of their best selling vehicle they sell grand caravans like hotcakes hell the grand caravans makes up for what they don't make on cars

I hate the other Stellantis brands like Peugeot,Citroen, DS Vauxhall and Opel

Also, I’m skeptical that the merger will happen.

PSA brands are doing well and offer good products for European markets. FCA brands (except Jeep) are badly managed and need infusion of BEV technology and modern platforms, as well as a strategy for the their lineup and market position. The merger could help Fiat a lot to survive but Alfa Romeo is doomed. Chrysler and Dodge are in trouble with outdated products and technology; unfortunately, PSA cannot help with their modern but small car platforms. Both brands need to reinvent themselves to stay alive.

So basically Peugeot now owns the failing Fiat group?

lol spacetourer!!! What a joke!!! WTF, SMH!! I hope dodge stays dodge.

So Dodge is killing off their biggest seller by a wide margin? What the fuck? That's pants-on-head stupid.

Love the fact that, you know how to say "LANCIA" the proper way. The rest of your analysis is absolutely rubbish. Keep the day job.

They think changing the name will change quality and reliability of this endless money pits they make today. Who needs new car make name people wants product that will last not some stupid new company name.

This merger, does not seem very good

Those European cars look really wacky, and the DS logo looks like they went into a kindergarten and asked the children to design a logo and made a chrome version of it.

Dang. European cars are slow. And I'm not even into fast cars but less than 150 HP lol

I feel like owning a DS car is a waste of money in my opinion I'd rather buy a grand Cherokee or Durango

Oh no a I don't want a Citroen or a Puegeot Hellcat. 😷😷😷😂😂😂

Those euro eco thrashers do nothing for me. No wonder Fiat and Alfa struggle to sell in west. In Australia, we prefer RWD V8 power.

Wow this is unimpressive. Guess I'm EV converting my 410k km Magnum. :D Killing "Dodge Caravan" name is madness. Most buyers really don't know that Chrysler Pacifica is the upgrade. That is when they realize Caravan is dead they will be looking at other vans, like Honda Odyssey, for the new one. I'm happy since I will likely be driving Caravan and 300 until there are EV vans with 48VDC subsystems.

Fiat lol. They wanted to play Mini. But they couldn't out Mini the Mini! Instead they had to sell platforms to the brands that people were looking at for the less intelligent among us to pick up. Still didn't work for them lol. At least it appears the new slew will have some interesting options that the westerners may actually want to jump on lol

All the crappiest cars under one umbrella lol..

Stellantis, it's the one name that people that want to buy a car should fear. There is NOTHING good coming out of that car company.

Stellantis sounds more like a drug company name or a prescription. Will a warning label be included with each vehicle that this product may cause blindness, bowel cramps, heart palpitations, constipation, mood swings, and other heath issues. Not that impressed with the Citroen, Peugeot, Fiat and Alfa Romeo brands.

Ehh, I’ll just get a Toyota.

So wait.... a group comprised of uninspiring and failing brands that merged to stay competitive, and another group comprised of uncompetitive and uninspired brands, which was owned by one half decent one, in FIAT, merged, to form a conglomerate of trash brands? FIAT should divest and RUN. They've shown they can make a car that is competitive in the market they traditionally wanted to occupy, that being Italy's answer to Ford, Toyota and Volkswagen, they own Ferrari, and Maserati, along with Alfa, which gives them toe holds in other more boutique markets, and they have the option of taking a risk on rehabilitating Lancia, one of the most iconic brands in history to those who actually KNOW about cars. Why in the ever loving f*ck would they gamble on Chrysler and it's trash brands? Or worse, gamble on the not only dead, but boring, horse that is the PSA Group? Guess that is what happens when the Italian side of Angelli family all die off and leave the reins with American cousins. I mean, the nostalgic optimism born of misguided patriotism could at least explain the Chrysler thing. Nothing explains the PSA thing. Maybe they feel like since Maserati was once owned by Citroen they can repay the favour by bailing out the latter? I don't know, there's got to be some weird connection that makes this make sense. Make sense to Elkan and the Angelis. It sure as sh*t makes zero sense to anyone else. Citroen hit the jackpot almost eighty years ago, with their first post War car, the 2CV, and then backed it up, with a Sophtmore offering that was even more magnificent in the DS. The writing was on the wall for a trifecta, they were going for a hattrick, the likes of which no manufacturer would have ever emulated since, with the XM, and decided suddenly, NO. Let us back away from the things which we wanted, to avoid the HP tax, and domestic blowback. We'll dump the plans for an 8, and just chop off two cylinders. We'll ditch the true fastback coupe, that loses the back seats, and not make the sedan, and wait until the final year to add an auto to the range. So, voila, they have a car that is not quite, but almost is, and might have been, but maybe is not. That hesitation, sacrificing of vision for consideration of more mundane considerations followed to the CX and the XM and from there it was downhill to mediocrity and banality in motion. It was a dedicated brief, and their dedication to meet it, that spawned the 2CV, it was vision, and their drive to realise it, which spawned the Goddess, the moment they balked at the dedication they'd put in to the previous visions reliasation, they stumbled and have never recovered. Peugeot on the other hand. Jesus. They made amazing cars for much longer. The 402, the nifty little 404, the world conquering unstoppable 504, the rabid monster in dwarfs clothing that was the 205 GTi, and the simply underrated, public darling that was the 406. Then they went full retard. They went from that history, to sh*t, not with some close calls, near hits turned misses, that slowly undid the magnificence of their past glories in slow series of ever worsening compromise cars like Citroen. No, they did it in just a few short years. Suddenly making cars that were simply terrible compared to say the 406, without anything close to the wild side some 205 models could show, nor the cheap usability of 404, and certainly not the quality and stamina of the 504. Not single performance sleeper, workhorse taxi, comfy middle class middle size quirky everycar, or go anywhere, never stop, three million miler, among the lot. On what planet does their merging with anything make anyone excited? Chrysler on the other hand? Well they once showed brains. They gave us the Viper, and the Prowler! They kept us in Wranglers. They allowed us the unmatched, unbridled, mythical glory of the Lamborghini Diablo, inarguably the greatest Lamborghini of ALL TIME. Yet the Diablo was about the only thing they could give us in that era, already broke ass as they were, and it cost them. Senna wanted the Lamborghini McLarens, Lamborghini were finally ready to commit to F1 OPENLY, not hiding behind a faux team, or under big name like Lotus. The engine was given the GOAT's, Senna's, gushing seal of approval, but the lacking money was gave us.... still born alternative realities and what ifs. The Viper and Prowler made it. The ME 4-12 did not. The Atlantic did not. The Imperial did not. The Phaeton did not. What's that say? That says the most visionary, most worldly, most wild, of the once Big Three, has not had the money, or the nerve, to give the nod to risk, for much of the last 50 years. So what are they bringing? RAM's that are way too ethnocentric to be global? Jeeps that are having more and more competition, and more and more quality questions? The 300C? A minivan? Are we going to get another Viper, or Prowler? Like hell. This is a not a sh*t sandwhich, to quote motoring journalist John Codegan, it's more like a sh*t layer cake. Fresh steaming warm automotive feces, sourced from the biggest global automotive colons, meshed together to create one putrid recipe for disaster. Watch it stain FIAT, and her brands. Bothering to get to know this abomination, is like bothering to get to know Ebola. If you get close enough to have a solid first hand opinion based in experience, you're probably going to start hemorrhaging blood from pustules, and bleeding from the eyeballs. Or maybe you'll just get some sh*t born parasite, or hepatitis. Ughhhh. Just.... ewwwwwww.

What a gay company.

Stephen King could not have written a bigger horror story. What a group of the most unreliable, underdone and unwanted vehicles in history!!

I actually feel sorry for the average European families, what horrible automotive options they have.

Owner stellantis Exor group Exor => Ferarri => FCA => PSA => Lamborghini ? 🤔 Thise Agnelli clan 👏🏻 Please next Lamborghini