Getting into Gas Planes - Breaking in an Engine
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Күн бұрынLearn the basics of getting started in RC gas planes and how to properly break in a gas engine using Horizon's Hangar 9 Ultra Stick.
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@sillydronevalley539 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhh I was missing the "Hi, I'm Josh and this is Josh"
@PKMartin 6 жыл бұрын
HI!
@boofnoof1602 6 жыл бұрын
TIPS: Always have a wing on when running in an engine, the vibrations from the engine with shake the hell out of the plane and make the glue release from the wood. Another tip is fuel proof your plane before you start flying the aircraft, using only 30 min epoxy and methylated spirits to thin the glue out and brush it on lightly just to cover the wood and let it set over night. for the first few tanks of fuel run the aircraft rich until the engine has properly seated. Also by using an electric starter yes its a lot safer but if you have spent a lot of money on a nice spinner it will continue to put marks on it so I suggest to used a starter stick, with a rubber end so that it doesn't damage your prop and one you start to feel comfortable then you can start using your hand. (Hope this helps some newbies into the hobby) :)
@ilham7345 Жыл бұрын
does cordless drill adapter available?
@rccollin7699 Ай бұрын
@@ilham7345no
@alankouba3556 6 жыл бұрын
please do more around gas planes
@hobie1613 6 жыл бұрын
Finally a gas video! It's been years!
@kennethkustren9381 4 жыл бұрын
GASOLINE ENGINES HAVE ADVANCED HUGELY IN MY 25+ YEARS OF RC interests. SolidState ignitions, EVERY ENGINE BLOCK ever, and ..... GPS A.I. UAV POV RC.... IN ONE AIRFRAME !!
@kennethkustren9381 4 жыл бұрын
I could tell you about a local effort.... high altitude BALLOONING... UAV -ish
@SA-co5sm 6 жыл бұрын
I started this hobby with gas planes. ABSOLUTE FUN.
@flyboywbl 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I miss this content. Just bought the Ultra Stick 30cc
@Skydive4ever 6 жыл бұрын
I missed the good 'ol tutorial videos, vlogs are ok, but i miss the old format.
@MCsCreations 6 жыл бұрын
Skydive4ever Me too.
@bnvi1215 6 жыл бұрын
Me too
@KouriEien 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes.
@rcbif101 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, this! Just not as informative or to the point anymore.
@DerHeizmeister 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I was quite delighted when they even gave the specs of an aircraft in metric and imperial units a long time ago. It seems that usefull information and technical details have given way to sensationalism and lifestyle... quite a shame.
@pesterenan 6 жыл бұрын
It's so much simple in Portuguese. We only have "motor" for the two types of "motors" that you showed ^^
@MCsCreations 6 жыл бұрын
Pesterenan Verdade. 😊
@orppranator5230 4 жыл бұрын
Pesterenan Simpler but less specific.
@tiberiu_nicolae 6 жыл бұрын
Josh and Josh! Like in the good old days!
@didierneeferc 6 жыл бұрын
Amazig finally some gas! I have been flying gas/glow for 10 years over the 14 years i have flown in total! (Almost 21 years old now) Love you guys!
@omary5439 4 жыл бұрын
this is the first flight test video I watched since around 2014, since you guys started getting heavy into quadcopters around that time and that's not really what I'm about. awesome video and it's really great to see both Joshs haha.
@neilorourke3257 6 жыл бұрын
What a breath of fresh air this episode was! Looking forward to more about gas planes.
@glennbenton7158 6 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing more on gas engines. I have used glow for years, however keen to get into gas for some of the big scale aircraft.
@gavinl.7993 6 жыл бұрын
Haha! You read my mind! I was just thinking about getting into gas planes today and how you would need to care for the engine, and I thought it would be really convenient if Flite Test would put up a video about getting started with it, since I learn most of what I need to know from them. Get out of my head! 😂
@LuisGarciaFLYINGLIFE 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited for a beginner series on gas!!! . How about a package from flight test store, every thing we need to build one with all the steps !!!
@sebastianlorant6502 5 жыл бұрын
Please! I'm quite sure I will be purchasing a Hangar 9 Meridian 60 and that's over the discontinued Great Planes Big Stik 60
@brandendavis6369 6 жыл бұрын
Finally! I have been waiting for years for this
@donaldasayers 5 жыл бұрын
Started on Diesel, never could get the buggers started. Hated glow engines, now into electric, and petrol/gas ignition engines. At least I understand those. Now all I have to do is build a plane big enough for my Honda weedwacker/strimmer engine. Running in/break in can be done at any time in the engine's life (If you or the previous owner forgot) and is much easier on a test stand than mounted in the plane.
@air-headedaviator1805 6 жыл бұрын
And so it begins, Beginner series for running i.c. I literally have zero funds for such a level at the moment but I am still excited to learn!
@thedude7726 6 жыл бұрын
as a certified small engine mechanic , please do NOT use marine grade two cycle oil. it has ammonium blended in it. this WILL cause carburetor and fuel line issues.
@rabbitfootedkitty1339 5 жыл бұрын
Stupid people. Also what should be used, something like Caster927?
@hardtop123 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!!....im also a qualified small engine mechanic...36 years in the trade....DEFINITELY DO NOT use outboard 2 stroke oil in an air cooled engine......outboard oil is not designed for the heat created by an air cooled engine....it will carbon an air cooled engine up really quick...been there seen this happen time after time when its been used in a chainsaw or brushcutter
@Rcguy2591 2 жыл бұрын
@@hardtop123 also needs to be ethanol free gas
@1rappyman 6 жыл бұрын
Great to see another gas episode after the Roadrunner one a few years back. I love flying electrics and gas motor planes & have shelved the nitro planes (long drive to get nitro fuel for me). Gas is cheap to operate, almost never needs any tuning work on the carb needles after being setup, not any cleanup like nitro & can pull around a big plane like nothing. They have been super reliable and easy to start. I would avoid running a plane much without the wings on - it shakes the fuse pretty good. I've done air break-ins, but check the manual - if it says a ground break-in is needed, they will know best.
@miklosko3355 6 жыл бұрын
In Europe it's called Two stroke engine not Two cycle :) Anyway not important. What's important is that the plane is big,looks cool, looking awesome e in the air and the most important thing is: It sounds soooo Awesome! And the warbirds with 4 stroke engines are breath taking and goose bumps giving because they sound so realistic and when they do low pass fly by.... I forget to breath... :D Awesome job guys! Can't wait for more ;). Thank you!
@organgrind 6 жыл бұрын
Well done guys, I'm just this year heading into gas myself, very helpful.
@gorace71 6 жыл бұрын
Great to see the josh and josh show back in town. Love the gas and electric
@averagemodeler 6 жыл бұрын
I hope more tutorials like this are coming from the two josh's. I have three big balsa planes with four gas and nitro engines I got from a friend getting out of the hobby.
@ggabrao02 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys, big fan. I have been flying glow and gas for quite some time and I truly love it. In my club we often do glow racing with members flying the same model of planes, 2 at the time and the only rule is that the plane can not be modded and the engine has to be below .46. Always a good time.
@olliea6052 6 жыл бұрын
Good video guys! If a person is trying out gassers, they need to view the engine work needed before flying as a complete package. Take time to get each step right and as Josh said; don't skip any steps. All worth it in the end. I have two nitro planes in the shed that a neighbour gave me because his eyesight deteriorated. Have yet to fly them because procrastination. And a lack of runway. Excuses excuses!
@devinkavak1836 6 жыл бұрын
Flite fest south!!! You even put it in the vid! We need it again!
@BlokHed75 6 жыл бұрын
JOSH IS BACK!!!!!!
@bepowerification 6 жыл бұрын
the benefits of gassers are the sound and the smell! and the satisfaction flying an internal combustion engine on an RC plane gives you.
@robinhood5448 6 жыл бұрын
YOU MADE A HOBBY INTO PASSION
@brucetenhave6952 6 жыл бұрын
Great to see gas back on the show. Looking foward to more gas vids!
@slyburner123 5 жыл бұрын
Make Flite Test Great Again, with this kind of videos!
@3DMOFO2020 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job on the video plus its great to see the 2 ''Josh's'' again lol
@oscarzt1652 6 жыл бұрын
I am SO envious of you having that plane. I want one
@hateeternalmaver 6 жыл бұрын
That motor/engine thing was eye opening, especially for a non-native speaker. Thanks guys. Also, such a classic episode. I really enjoyed it.
@1976axerhand 6 жыл бұрын
I always break in the air. Keeps them cooler and doesn't put a lot of stress on the airframe. Never had an issue in 10 yrs of flying gas.
@errorgd 6 жыл бұрын
just when I started thinking about it. love you guys
@sr175 6 жыл бұрын
Cool great to see gas! Read your manual as they will recommend how to break in but it's usually while flying not tied down. But it depends.
@elijahf111 6 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting... That's a cool frickin plane
@arleysimpson3678 6 жыл бұрын
Josh Scott's back?!?!? Bring back Peter and David, too!!!
@danielharman4437 6 жыл бұрын
Omg perfect video. I’ve been wondering about gas for so long
@MrJJandJim 6 жыл бұрын
Cool vid, guys! By the way, I have a challenge for you guys! I mentioned it before. (I think it was on the crash compilation.) Take an airplane, equip it with a very strong motor, then remove the main wings and try to fly it using the rear end to control it. It cannot be a flying wing or a nutball, just a normal airplane. You can then make any modifications to help you control it and/or stabilize it, but no wings for lift! You can add multiple engines if you want!
@uselessaccount196 6 жыл бұрын
Finally...my wish came true.thnx FT you guys are the best.GOD BE WITH YOU......
@brettlockhart1465 6 жыл бұрын
Great video guys good to see a gasser please do a lot more gas and glow!
@BigAlFPV17 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent tips Josh & Josh!!
@mladtheimpaler 6 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this!
@krolltheknight 6 жыл бұрын
Real good commentary bois. G
@av8153 6 жыл бұрын
I imagine many of your viewers are electric park flyers . If you guys do a follow up video , you may want to mention that gassers are not usually recommended for park flying .... or soccer-field/softball-field/etc . And also let viewers know : as well as 2 stroke engines , there are 4 stroke engines available .
@pipsqeak7104 3 жыл бұрын
I just was given a free flow engine plane 25 years old about, where should I fly it? If not at a field I dont understand.
@av8153 3 жыл бұрын
@@pipsqeak7104 At an RC club field ( ask what is required to fly there ) , or on private land with permission .
@pipsqeak7104 3 жыл бұрын
@@av8153 thank you! I was not expecting an answer from a 2 year old comment, but it is very appreciated. That's makes sense.
@lilbigmike8945 6 жыл бұрын
I found a full complete gasser in someones garbage a few months back. I dont have a manual for it! Where should I start to get it running again?
@brodyjohnston9115 6 жыл бұрын
Love the vids!
@victorrisk6098 6 жыл бұрын
I really like info on gas engines! Thanks!!!
@kmarshall100 5 жыл бұрын
Hey fellas! I’ve been watching your videos since days of the eflite Taylorcraft! Love that lil bird. Was curious...when are you guys gonna do an actual flying video of this plane?? Keep the awesome videos up!
@oliverw782 6 жыл бұрын
Gas is here!! YAAAIIII!
@FlyGuyF119 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see y'all showing some 2stoke/ balsa stuff! This is where I wish the hobby stayed in some ways. Electric is cool but makes the care factor go down. Since if you crash a foamie you just go "well dang man guess I'll just hot glue it back together" With balsa aircraft there's so much more care that's needed. Between building the plane over a couple of months or years, ensuring everything is done right, inspecting the plane before every flight, ensuring the engine is tuned right. Because if you lose that plane for what every reason now you have time invested and cant just get a hot glue gun to fix it. Think it teaches children that get into the hobby a different level of respect for the craftsmanship of the plane and how to respect it. Not to bash the electric stuff but between electric planes and the drone stuff I think it has 100% hurt the hobby in several ways.
@ryanewbank9271 4 жыл бұрын
I agree..one video i seen was a spot at the flying field where they burned crashed planes. Another symptom of out "throw away society". Really sad.
@josepherickson7618 6 жыл бұрын
Super awesome video love the video 👌👌👌💪💪💪👍👍👍👍
@GAMINOES 5 жыл бұрын
Which is the simulator you suggest for a beginner to able to fly and land engine RC plane
@LeadElement 6 жыл бұрын
Build a gas quadcopter please! Best way would probably be single engine and collective pitch, but a quad engine would sure be a sight to behold!
@sut2910 6 жыл бұрын
Great advice! I think the typical gas engines don't require as much break-in as glow engines, but the key _is_ the lubrication. Look at the weed whackers, where the history is -fill it up and go. I don't use ethanol gas any longer in my small engines, mowers, etc., now that I can get ethanol-free at the local gas station. No more issues with moisture, green gummed up bio-remnants, and clogged carbs.
@urmilajoshi8050 6 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on different gas planes such as the one used in this video and my personal favorite the sukhoi su-26 form hobbyking. Anyways great work as always!
@punkgunzzyoutube7728 6 жыл бұрын
The hair looks WAY BETTER. And the scuff on the chin. You literally transformed.
@jordyb323 6 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2m Edge petrol, and this is perfect. you guys should help me with my fuel system, as the older guys at the club all gave me different opinions on how to set up the fuel system ( lines, overflow, carby, and bleeder) help would be much appreciated
@sebastianlorant6502 5 жыл бұрын
So I'm very sure I'm going to purchase the Hangar 9 Meridian 60 over the Ultra Stick. From the reviews I have heard over the Ultrastick was the poor build quality out of factory (i.e. the aielerons dont have a flush finish to the wings due to the hinge insertions not being centered). I would greatly appreciate insight to this as all reviews I'm able to find are from 2015 or older, and finding glow/gas planes is not nearly as simple as it was 5 to 10 years ago. I had originally flown the Big stick 60 and that was my original choice however they were discontinued.
@Smarnca 6 жыл бұрын
Does this mean Flite Test will do electric and gas powered models from now on? Awesome!
@MrRCmania7 6 жыл бұрын
You should leave the wings on for break in to let the vibrations escape better so you dont shake the firewall off
@reggie3h694 6 жыл бұрын
Can you put out the Ultra Stick review out soon please?
@alanboston5811 3 жыл бұрын
So what do you do about these carbs that have no mixture screws ?
@martyrayh.2976 6 жыл бұрын
Started with balsa. paper and dope. cox .049, control line in the late 60's!
@alexdavidsantiago3955 6 жыл бұрын
Yeessss I was waiting this!!! Thanks for your help
@supercobrapro7470 3 жыл бұрын
Is the pulling force same if we go vertical?
@gamingwithjames9987 4 жыл бұрын
thw ultra stick is my fav plane
@jm300zx7 6 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!
@blue2sco 6 жыл бұрын
And you should always do this on a test rig first and not a model. And if you do a engine run in a model ALWAYS fit the wings, it gives you a hand hold, it can hit against your pit box if it moves forward giving you extra protection.
@PropaneTreeFiddy 6 жыл бұрын
Desert Aircraft engine break-in procedure: fly the plane :)
@SimeonSolarsky 6 жыл бұрын
Propane TreeFiddy absolute got the DA150 comes broken in by factory
@PlaneButcher 6 жыл бұрын
What did you use to get the sticky gas residue off the plane?
@dmartinnj 6 жыл бұрын
Yay! It about time you introduced gas/glow flight...
@jeromes5141 6 жыл бұрын
Great video lads. Can you lads do a nitro video too. I started off on electrics and wanted swit h to gas. Got this u can do from a guy at the field only to find out that its 4 stroke nitro, and that's all i know of the engine. Was so disappointed. I wanted speed and noise but my t-34 mentor 25e fr horizon hobby was way faster than the nitro. How can I tell what size it is and can that engine be used in that ultra stick?
@peanutbutterisfu 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly electric is the best way to go, battery technology is so much better now, no worries about the engine stalling, no fuel to buy, the only problem you really will have is if you crash it. But there’s something about having a real engine lol. Definitely right about breaking in the engines. My .70 magnum xl 4 stroke ran absolutely terrible before I broke it in. They aren’t like a lawnmower or a car engine where they run great during the break in period. I really couldn’t believe how different it ran after running a few tanks of fuel in it. The next engine I buy I will just make an engine stand and break it in on that before even putting it in the plane.
@HaywardFamilybuilding 6 жыл бұрын
Josh is Back!!!!
@derjoh1986 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, look at this! The original dual that started it all! Nice! Lol
@mrbadx19 6 жыл бұрын
my first was a gasser that flew on a control line, you went round in circles and controlled it with 2 strings and a handle. mostly you got dizzy flying the damned thing.
@Blackstarr223 6 жыл бұрын
If you get into bigger sized gas engines, starter motors are not an option.. Cheaply anyway. Although hand starting with gloves are recommended, (Imo especially with carbon props with a sharp trailing edge), I don't find many people who use gloves anyway. ;P
@boofnoof1602 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah good point, They only use electric starters for safety crap haha, when starting my 120cc extra just keep 3 fingers on the face of the prop and that way if it back fires your fingers aren't in the line of fire. smaller ones just give it a flick backwards and starts right up haha. :)
@esportsoutdoors633 4 жыл бұрын
Please help me! I am building a j3 Piper cub and it’s almost done what type of gas is it? Airplane fuel or just regular gas
@wamplertube 6 жыл бұрын
With gas you have to earn it! LOL keep up the great work boys!
@amen_ra6926 6 жыл бұрын
Ah the memories of cleaning fuel residue of the fuselage and wings. Storing rubber bands that held the wings down in jars of cat litter. Tweaking the needle valve and being careful not to slice your fingers off.
@Handledgovernment 6 жыл бұрын
Nice, a real epasode
@iraqi1447 7 ай бұрын
Hello, what is the length and width of the wing? How long is the plane?
@donnieboesch3502 3 жыл бұрын
How do you size a gas engine? Lets say. What size gas engine would I use to replace a 40 glow engine?
@weofnjieofing 2 жыл бұрын
Glow engines are easier to set up and fly than gas. For starters there's no ignition system or ignition battery to worry about. The glow plug and glow driver takes care of that. There also cheaper to buy especially second hand. They also better cater to smaller aircraft making it cheaper overall to get into the air. In terms or reliability Glow can be as reliable as electric once you acquire the knowledge and diagnostic skills over time in operating them. They're also more fun than electric.
@leviw9907 6 жыл бұрын
Hello again, does anyone know the FT Simple Cub’s flight time
@guerrillaradio9953 6 жыл бұрын
My carbon reno air racer is getting a 500cc inline twin. That's a big gas engine.
@MsShaunaM 6 жыл бұрын
Running at reduced power while on the ground is also true for full scale aircraft. The runup and magneto check happens at less than full throttle and is only supposed to last a moment to keep from overheating the engine.
@michaelsell6928 6 жыл бұрын
Yesssssss!!!!!! It’s gasser time!!!
@Bandare 6 жыл бұрын
I was even more excited from the title saying GAS. I was wondering propane, butane or what? Then I realised you just meant fuel, or in the US,gas! hahaha
@rabbitfootedkitty1339 5 жыл бұрын
You should always run after run oil no matter gas or nitro plane or car, or even a boat. Well, maybe not for gas cars all the time, but definitely for long-term storage. 3:58 What the heck? Outboard 2 stroke oil? I would stay away from that and use something like Caster927 by Maxima, Benol by Klotz, Dominator by Amsoil or some other high quality 2 stroke oil, at least for gas rc, and nitro rc, if you're cool enough to make your own nitro fuel. Maybe there is something else that should be used because i'm not into planes as much and they may require some other formula for the type of engine that they are, but 2 stroke marine oil doesn't seem right lol. Also, a separate battery for the ignition system? No magneto/coil? That's kind of sad :P.
@FPV-wi8fw 6 жыл бұрын
Gas planes are the best 😁
@MoiraOBrien 6 жыл бұрын
welcome back Josh Scott
@flyboywbl 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you did more balsa building and gas airplane content
@Esa826 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to build gas engine that is like EDF?
@derekwhitmer2799 5 жыл бұрын
I got a fox 35 u control glow engine, And i haven't ever tried to see if it would run but it's not seized up or nothing but I'm guessing that it's from the 60's or 70's
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