Gettysburg - Morning of July 2nd, the Briefing

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Zappiss

16 жыл бұрын

"Lee's battle plan for July 2 called for Longstreet's First Corps to position itself stealthily to attack the Union left flank, facing northeast astraddle the Emmitsburg Road, and to roll up the Federal line. The attack sequence was to begin with Maj. Gens. John Bell Hood's and Lafayette McLaws's divisions, followed by Maj. Gen. Richard H. Anderson's division of Hill's Third Corps. The progressive en echelon sequence of this attack would prevent Meade from shifting troops from his center to bolster his left. At the same time, Maj. Gen. Edward "Allegheny" Johnson's and Jubal Early's Second Corps divisions were to make a "demonstration" against Culp's and Cemetery Hills (again, to prevent the shifting of Federal troops), and to turn the demonstration into a full-scale attack if a favorable opportunity presented itself.
Lee's plan, however, was based on faulty intelligence, exacerbated by Stuart's continued absence from the battlefield. Instead of moving beyond the Federals' left and attacking their flank, Longstreet's left division, under McLaws, would face Maj. Gen. Daniel Sickles's III Corps directly in their path.
Longstreet's attack was to be made as early as practicable; however, Longstreet got permission from Lee to await the arrival of one of his brigades, and while marching to the assigned position, his men came within sight of a Union signal station on Little Round Top. Countermarching to avoid detection wasted much time, and Hood's and McLaws's divisions did not launch their attacks until just after 4 p.m. and 5 p.m., respectively."
A clip from the movie Gettysburg, with English subtitles. www.imdb.com/title/tt0107007/
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@inttruders
@inttruders 4 жыл бұрын
"He is of the opinion that withdrawing from Gettysburg and giving it back to the enemy would be very bad for morale." You know what else is bad for morale is everybody dying.
@printolive5512
@printolive5512 4 жыл бұрын
The objective was the Federal Army, not Gettysburg, and that is why our side lost!
@Ruimas28
@Ruimas28 4 жыл бұрын
As early as this was on day 2, the ANV could not yet move away and much less "to the right". Simple fact is they were still trying to link with Stuart and they desperately needed that cavalry back. If they moves "away" from where Stuart was about to arrive, that would have placed Stuart in a very complicated position. He would either have been crushed around Gettysburg or he would have had to ride his supply wagons all the way behind the mountains with an even greater delay. Either way, Lee would not have Stuart for a long time. Now, blind, with no cavalry, how could Lee start moving is army around the enemy and so close to it? The Union had cavalry which was close and watching. Besides, what could have possibly been the roads Lee would take? The closest ones were going right into incoming Union reinforcements. Other ones would just be too far away and take too much time. Time and supplies that Lee did not have. It should also be noted how hard Longstreet found it to move 2 divisions "to the right of the Union". So why would it be easier to move the whole army? Its absolutely one of those things that sound awesome but would have been a pain to try. The whole idea just assumes the Union would keep concentrating at Gettysburg and never realize the ANV was moving under their nose. Well….that is a very big leap of faith and a very dangerous one.
@frederic94000
@frederic94000 4 жыл бұрын
@@printolive5512 i guess the problem was that the Confederate gouvernment Couldt provide shoes or even sufficent amount of food for their Fighting men. Having the union army between virginia and the ANV would have been a very perious situation, I think Lee did right, a victory in Gettysburg could have resulted in a peace agreement.
@stevestringer7351
@stevestringer7351 4 жыл бұрын
I must agree sir. If they would have the men they lost at Gettysburg after Gettysburg.... there may not have been a Petersburg. The end rest would not have differed though. Gen Lee would have had to surrender at another place later than April 9. By this time in the war, the csa forces had no chance. The aop had finally become a good army and was a killing machine.
@limroger
@limroger 4 жыл бұрын
@@printolive5512 Sorry to hear your side lost 158 years ago. Maybe you might want to time travel to 2020 and help your country of 50 states.
@deevita7459
@deevita7459 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why but I like all the background sounds. All the sounds of when they walk too, swords rattling etc.
@stevenmc56
@stevenmc56 4 жыл бұрын
Makes it more realistic
@snakeenjoyingacanofbeans5219
@snakeenjoyingacanofbeans5219 4 жыл бұрын
U rite
@stephenguman3760
@stephenguman3760 3 жыл бұрын
Me to love the sounds
@ARCtrooperblueleader
@ARCtrooperblueleader 3 жыл бұрын
@Dee Cns - Same here.
@davidgagnon2849
@davidgagnon2849 3 жыл бұрын
We have surround sound in our living room and you're right; it's awesome. Sounds coming from all around. I especially like when Longstreet walks into the barn (field hospital) to see Hood; there are small birds chirping from the rafters and probably nests inside the barn. Even those birds knew Hood should have been allowed to go to the right.
@EscanV
@EscanV 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Berenger was amazing as Longsteet
@odinvik7821
@odinvik7821 4 жыл бұрын
his fake beard on the other hand
@usersatch
@usersatch 4 жыл бұрын
@@odinvik7821 BOOO!!! Longstreet's beard should have been nominated for an award! ;)
@neilpemberton5523
@neilpemberton5523 4 жыл бұрын
@@usersatch Yeah, a Razzie.
@Clint52279
@Clint52279 4 жыл бұрын
@@odinvik7821 okay, -1 point for the fake beard, but +5 for the hat!
@Arbeedubya
@Arbeedubya 4 жыл бұрын
@ReddNekk13 He was virtually unrecognizable in Roughriders.
@smbleesing3820
@smbleesing3820 3 жыл бұрын
Since this movie has been out, people sometimes troll the Gettysburg park ranger giving the tour of the area where the Mississippi units fought by asking the ranger "Is Mississippi ready for this day?" when the ranger asks if there are any questions.
@davidgagnon2849
@davidgagnon2849 3 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@totallynotalpharius2283
@totallynotalpharius2283 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a damned good quote , even though Barksdale didn’t survive the day
@traviskarnes6825
@traviskarnes6825 2 жыл бұрын
Heh
@kevray
@kevray 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 Жыл бұрын
@@totallynotalpharius2283 I'll say this for Barksdale. He was a Secessionist politician but instead of staying home he put his "money where his mouth was" and went off to fight. And never came home.
@benjaminlee4937
@benjaminlee4937 6 жыл бұрын
Apparently during this scene, Martin Sheen was having a hard time with his lines. So while they were taking a break between the takes for this scene, he wrote "And Hill will support" on the corner of the map to help him remember the line.
@stephenfulbright9772
@stephenfulbright9772 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Hilarious because Hill was of absolutely no use and held back Mahone. Peter Principle
@michaelvaughn8864
@michaelvaughn8864 Жыл бұрын
Lol😂 Didn't know that, Mr. Lee
@gdsvalentine1193
@gdsvalentine1193 Жыл бұрын
And you know this how?
@rockman4u2
@rockman4u2 Жыл бұрын
Ted Turner's movie was a weak attempt to glorify the horrendous treason of these Southern generals, while they used poor, ignorant share croppers as canon fodder. Pathetic!!
@lawrencewood289
@lawrencewood289 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenfulbright9772 A. P. Hill was. highly respected corps commander (Lee would have replace him if was not capable). He was not of the caliber of Stonewall Jackson but then almost none were.
@fritziepisarski8681
@fritziepisarski8681 3 жыл бұрын
I m a Civil War re-enactor and have seen this movie countless times and never get tired of it .The man that portrays Gen A P Hill is our good friend Pat Falci . He has shared many a story behind the scenes . Once I asked him( my not knowing) when they did the scene at The Cashtown Inn with Martin (Lee) was he asking if he wanted to go for coffee later or was there actually a scripted dialogue. You couldn’t hear what was said. Pat laughed, said dialogue, we might not here it but cameras do and in case they needed it later, which they didn’t.
@johhnylarue3273
@johhnylarue3273 2 жыл бұрын
There were so many cut scenes that would have added to the understanding of the battle, but it was already over 3 hours with the cuts.
@Frankie5Angels150
@Frankie5Angels150 Жыл бұрын
WTF did you just try to say?
@sherylannnarvasa6922
@sherylannnarvasa6922 Жыл бұрын
​@@Frankie5Angels150, Agreed!
@briargoatkilla
@briargoatkilla 2 ай бұрын
@@Frankie5Angels150 LOL!
@sethwallacephd3418
@sethwallacephd3418 6 жыл бұрын
Ive read many of the comments below and am impressed with the respect, knowledge and thoughtfulness of most. Thank you. As for me, my late grandfather, Willard M. Wallace, PhD, Prof of History at Wesleyan Univ in CT wrote...The Soul of the Lion...a biography of J.L. Chamberlain. So, I grew up visiting battlefields... incl Gettysburg. That noted, I dont recall Gramps ever criticizing Lee or Longstreet. I suspect the following variables formed Lee's decision to attack rather than re-deploy: 1.Until that battle, Lee's Army had never been defeated. 2. Lee knew he had no consistent supply train of weaponry and other necessities 3. Lee knew that if the battle was won Lincoln was likely to sign a peace treaty with Jefferson Davis. 4. Lee could not have known that a 'Tipping Point' had been reached within the Union Army. What had once been a group of poorly trained and resentful soldiers - had evolved into and extremely effective fighting force comparable to his own. Ground troops had become more experienced and Commanders, like Hancock + Chamberlain had risen to positions where they could make a difference. 5. Lee knew General Meade - and based on that understanding - he made a calculated decision: Meade would be cautious (which in fact he was - as demonstrated by Meade's choice not to pursue Lee after Pickets charge). 6. Lee probably should have listened to Longstreet... but it was Lee who was dealing with pressure from Jefferson Davis and ultimately I suspect Lee believed fate was on his side. 7. And of course there were other variables involved... The absence of Jeb Stuart's Calvary, Longstreet's potentially purposeful delay to attack... and so many more... Some we know and others we don't. Ultimately the battle was incredibly tragic and I am always haunted yet amazed by the bravery and commitment of the soldiers on both sides.
@susiearviso3032
@susiearviso3032 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, what I would give to visit CW battlefields. You're pretty lucky. What an exciting privilege.
@SoulKiller7Eternal
@SoulKiller7Eternal 2 жыл бұрын
False. Antietam was a defeat for Lee. Only by a miracle did he suffer a defeat with an idiot like McCellan in command. Had a better general been in command, the war could've ended there. Malvern Hill was a union victory. Beaver Dam Creek was a union victory, in terms of tactical capacity & losses. Confederates took heavier losses. Lee had been beaten many times before. So...thats just a BS claim.
@billmasters385
@billmasters385 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoulKiller7Eternal I think you're generally right on two points, but often times it takes months or years for the proper historical conclusions to be reached about turning point battles. So while your point is correct, I still believe the South had a general notion that prior to that battle, they had kicked a lot of Yankee behind. In addition, although the point about Antietam is also generally right, from a morale perspective, the crushing push against Burnside (by AP Hill?) at the end of the battle and the miraculous "save" might have dampened enthusiasm about anyone declaring victory for that bloody day. The way I see it.
@EnemyAce88
@EnemyAce88 2 жыл бұрын
I live near Gettysburg. I know a bunch of guys who were extras in this movie. Lee's fatal mistake at Gettysburg was letting Pickett talk him into making the charge. If he had listened to Longstreet instead, the battle would have been a draw at worst, and certainly could have been won. Marching across that open field right in the face of the enemy artillery is just unfathomable. I've stood on that very spot more than once and wondered how anybody could have expected to make it there alive. Those poor men had to know that they probably weren't going to survive it.
@anathardayaldar
@anathardayaldar 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice summary.
@JohnnyRebKy
@JohnnyRebKy 4 жыл бұрын
This movie never gets old for me. I really need to grab a blue ray disk and watch it on a 4K tv
@davidgagnon2849
@davidgagnon2849 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, I have never even seen it offered on BluRay. I agree, it would be stunning; and of course in Surround Sound.
@davidgagnon2849
@davidgagnon2849 3 жыл бұрын
I've not found it on Bluray yet. But I hope someday I will.
@rc59191
@rc59191 2 жыл бұрын
Love the bluray version includes extended scenes that should of been left in with General Ewell.
@vipergtsmre
@vipergtsmre 4 жыл бұрын
I walked Picketts charge many times, but i can't imagine it under fire. Gen. Lee was brilliant, but he made a mistake that day.
@creepspilla
@creepspilla 4 жыл бұрын
ViperGTS MRE How many yards of open ground do you think they were crossing?
@calguy3838
@calguy3838 3 жыл бұрын
@@creepspilla It's at least a half mile.
@timothyhouse1622
@timothyhouse1622 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call Lee brilliant. I'd say he was overrated and only had success against inept buffoons who had no business commanding armies. He got his ass handed to him when he faced REAL generals. I like to refer to Lee as "Grant's Bitch." Yeah, he won a lot of battles at the start, but they were ALWAYS with great losses he couldn't afford, costing him initiative. He could never exploit his successes, like a GREAT general could.
@t.c.thompson2359
@t.c.thompson2359 3 жыл бұрын
I do sometimes wonder how much of Lee's early success was because the Union leadership was so incompetent for so long, until Grant, Lee didn't have any real opposition. So many Union generals were politicians for so much of the war. Once this changed the Confederacy's success rate plummeted.
@rf3495
@rf3495 3 жыл бұрын
@@t.c.thompson2359 At Chancellorsville Lee suffered higher percentage losses than did the Union army. Plus losing Jackson.
@500carl
@500carl Жыл бұрын
I like the way the officers address each other with noble civility. As Hood settles on his horse he respectfully seeks leave from Longstreet by say "With your permission sir". He salutes him and Longstreet returns the salute graciously granting the leave sought. Even in battle when sending a message back to Lee one his general prefaces his report with words "General X sends his compliments and reports....". Wonderful turns of expression. The 19th century could teach us all lessons of respect, honour and grace. I am from Australia. Such dialogue has never really been part of our culture. More's the pity.
@Cody_L._Brock
@Cody_L._Brock Жыл бұрын
This!!! This was part of what chivalry was. Not just opening doors for ladies or taking your hat off when speaking to one. It was the respectful language people had with each other. Actions and words. God I miss even a touch of it
@Frankie5Angels150
@Frankie5Angels150 Жыл бұрын
The best example of all is when Gen Lee addresses his horse as “Sir”!
@ardshielcomplex8917
@ardshielcomplex8917 Жыл бұрын
I'm a 70 year old Aussie country boy, yes there was a time when such dialogue was common enough.
@ardshielcomplex8917
@ardshielcomplex8917 Жыл бұрын
@@Frankie5Angels150 We Horse folk talk to our family that way.
@chasemcnab7610
@chasemcnab7610 11 ай бұрын
And then they turn around and treat humans like chattel, whipping their skin until their muscles ripped off their bones. The “southern gentry” might have modelled their manners after European aristocracy but they were nevertheless barbaric racists who tore their country apart because they would rather cause mass slaughter than risk freeing the slaves that sustained their way of life. Don’t let nice manners fool you, these men were fighting to preserve slavery and it’s horrors.
@michaelsnyder3871
@michaelsnyder3871 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with the entire battle plan was that it was based on an early morning reconnaissance by one of Lee's engineer officers. He claimed to have ridden all the way to the base of Big Round Top and not seen any US forces. Lee wanted Longstreet to attack with his two divisions up the Chambersburg road with a division on each side. Lee thought the Army of the Potomac's line ended at the southern end of Cemetery Ridge. Even had Longstreet been able to position his troops where Lee wanted WITHOUT being seen by the Army of the Potomac, it would have been after 1200 before the attack could have begun. This was not a case of simply marching across the wheatfields and through the Peach Orchard. Lee wanted Longstreet south of those points and adjacent to the Round Tops when he began his attack. Had Longstreet marched at daybreak, something that was physically impossible given the bivouac locations of his two divisions as they arrived behind Seminary Ridge between midnight and early morning that very day. By the time Longstreet could have stepped off on his attack, Sickle's III Corps was now on his right flank, arrayed between the end of Cemetery Ridge and Big Round Top, where Army of the Potomac signal troops had established an observation and signal point. Sykes' V Corps was closing on Sickle's rear. At this point in time, Sickle's had yet to advance into his salient. Sickle's could have attacked Longstreet's right as he was assembling for his attack or during his attack, which would have swung Longstreet's axis from the Chambersburg Road to the area between south Cemetery Ridge and the Round Tops with Hood's division in the lead and McLaws' division to the rear. While Longstreet would still have savaged III Corps, Hood would have been attacking straight into III and V Corps and with I and II Corps troops on his left. Hood would have been fought out, McLaws would pass through Hood and he would get fought out attacking V Corps. Without Picket or support from Hill's corps, Longstreet would have been unable to exploit any success on the southern end of Meade's line as Sedgewick's VI Corps was arriving on the battlefield. Ewell's earlier attack on Culp's Hill was a failure and would have remained a failure as he faced troops from I, II, VI, XI and XII Corps even if perfectly coordinated with Longstreet, a near impossibility in the days before reliable portable radios. Lee was not infallible. He should have gone forward with Longstreet and he should have committed Anderson's Division from Hill's corps on Longstreet's left when he realized what was happening. He didn't. Which meant that whether Longstreet had gone at 1200 or 1600, he still would have failed. As Pickett supposedly pointed out, the Yankees had something to do with it. Under Meade during the Gettysburg campaign, the Army of the Potomac marched and fought harder and smarter than it ever did before or after. The US cavalry fought Stuart and won a number of tactical victories and came out with a draw for the campaign. I Corps by itself reduced Hill's corps (minus Anderson) to combat ineffectiveness for the rest of the battle. XII Corps stopped Ewell in his tracks on the second day and anticipated his attack on the third day. V Corps redeemed Sickle's failure and stopped Longstreet, while II Corps stopped Lee's attack on the third day. Both sides made mistakes. Meade made fewer mistakes than Lee. Lee did not LOSE the battle, he was fought out by Meade and the officers and men of the Army of the Potomac.
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 3 жыл бұрын
I think one of the HUGE questions re Sickles' move is this: If he hadn't moved forward would he have put any of his men on LRT? If he had been in his assigned position would Warren have scouted LRT or have assumed that Sickles had invested the hill? So many what ifs makes history fascinating to me.
@brianbyrne3003
@brianbyrne3003 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent synopsis. Thanks.
@geneyaher7888
@geneyaher7888 Жыл бұрын
It was up the Emmitsburg Road, not the Chambersburg Road, which is where the 1st days fighting started and was now in Confederate hands.
@jeffheller4180
@jeffheller4180 Жыл бұрын
Longstreet petitioned Lee to extend the attack to the right. Lee declined, not wanting to weaken his center. Who knows if a further flaking maneuver would have led to an envelopment, but that is what Longstreet tired to get Lee to approve most of the afternoon.
@user-qz1sj1ru3d
@user-qz1sj1ru3d Жыл бұрын
Sure but there were many problems. The biggest was a highly active General Meade to contend with.
@elxaime3792
@elxaime3792 5 жыл бұрын
General Longstreet: "mmm-hmmm...we got beaucoup movement."
@JD1976
@JD1976 5 жыл бұрын
You dont sleep on no fuckin ambush.
@battaglino77
@battaglino77 4 жыл бұрын
I am reality!
@stevent9179
@stevent9179 4 жыл бұрын
Death? What do y'all know about death. 💀
@stevestringer7351
@stevestringer7351 4 жыл бұрын
Dude..... I see what you did right there..... good one.
@usersatch
@usersatch 4 жыл бұрын
We all gotta die sometime, Red
@bbb462cid
@bbb462cid 6 жыл бұрын
My annual viewing of this film is in four days
@bbb462cid
@bbb462cid 3 жыл бұрын
@Francisco Nieves what? Do you know what "good riddance" even means?
@PravdaKatyusha
@PravdaKatyusha 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the real confederacy was the friends we made along the way?
@thekentuckian8375
@thekentuckian8375 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for all the hard work downloading this movie. Great job.
@johnrobinson1762
@johnrobinson1762 5 жыл бұрын
The first day ended up being the decisive standpoint of the next engagements in Gettysburg. Union Army withdraws to more advantageous ground, civilians hurriedly flee from Gettysburg which only allowed the A of NV access to a small town that is anchored by 2 hills. The foliage in those days was also much more dense, so it allowed for the Union Army to recon with impunity, and establish guns at elevation. Firing down.
@eNosArmory
@eNosArmory 4 жыл бұрын
The foliage was much less dense in those days. The woods around Gettysburg were actively harvested for firewood, building materials and fencing... livestock grazed in the fields and woods of the area keeping the underbush and grasses down. In the years since the battle the area has gone mostly feral, no longer actively resourced it has gotten WAY OVERGROWN. In the past few years the National Park Service has begun to get more aggressive with tree removal and controlled burns to try and return some level of authenticity to the landscape... but even these efforts pale in comparison to farmers and civilians actively resourcing their lands. Cemetary Hill was nearly bare... and Culps Hill was not the thickly wooded and densely overgrown forest we see today. "Reynolds Woods" (where the stone monument that marks the spot where Gen. Reynolds was shot, known as Herbst Woods at the time of the battle) is really the only area that you get a true sense of an authentic wooded landscape as the trees and underbush there have been heavily controlled by the Park... no underbush... grazed space... sparcely wooded. The surrounding areas have all been let overgrown to dense woods and thick brush. Little Round Top was clear cut by a farmer and herds of cattle and sheep where allowed to graze on its slopes and top... thats the reason its bald on one side... but at the time of the battle Little Round Top was very sparcely wooded, almost a bare hill. I think the National Park Service has done a much better job managing the battlefield over the last 10 years by introducing controlled burns, tree harvesting and clear cutting.... something that up till then would have been unthinkable for the the Park Service land management "hands off" attitude towards the natural setting of the battlefield. 20 Years ago... it literally would have been impossible to fight the battle of Gettysburg on that battlefield... there is no way units would have been able to even maneuver in most areas of the July 2nd attack... and most Union artillery positions that were so vital on the 1st and 3rd on Cemetary Hill and Upper Cemetary Ridge would have been completely useless and unworkable for artillery. The Battlefield has come a long way in recent years... but still much more work is needed.
@MrJoeyBoombotz
@MrJoeyBoombotz 6 жыл бұрын
John Bell Hood was only 33 years old at Gettysburg. They portrayed him as an old man.
@aaronrider4051
@aaronrider4051 6 жыл бұрын
Dadgum, you might look old too if you had personally led a devastating, bloody assault against entrenched Union positions at Gaines Mill - among OTHER Texas Brigade fights!!
@markbuchanan9199
@markbuchanan9199 5 жыл бұрын
True that! At Franklin, TN in 64, he had lost a leg an arm, and was in terrible pain. Then in charge of the AOT. A true Texas hero who gave his all, yet sacrificed the flower of the South. So sad. So sad...
@MatthewAtkinson
@MatthewAtkinson 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah they totally misrepresented Hood
@WarThunder-zt4xw
@WarThunder-zt4xw 5 жыл бұрын
Well Hood, like many ATT, had a full beard. He also had a grim, stern appearnce that belied his youth. Take a look at those old photographs and you may see what I'm talking about.
@kvltizt
@kvltizt 5 жыл бұрын
@@markbuchanan9199 He didn't lose the arm, just the use of it.
@johnnytastetest
@johnnytastetest 9 жыл бұрын
Lee should have simply called in an airstrike.
@Shadowman4710
@Shadowman4710 8 жыл бұрын
+johnnytastetest or at least sent in some drones...
@kenhawk1235
@kenhawk1235 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@Benjibenji108
@Benjibenji108 7 жыл бұрын
johnnytastetest called in a tactical nuke
@darianvaldez4044
@darianvaldez4044 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe use bioweapons like gas.
@susiearviso3032
@susiearviso3032 5 жыл бұрын
They did pretty good without all the modern tactics.
@AgressorNation
@AgressorNation 2 жыл бұрын
Tom Berenger looked fantastically regal and imposing in his portrayal of Longstreet. The uniform, the hat, the beard, everything was perfectly placed.
@trident6547
@trident6547 Ай бұрын
I agree with you. All in all the casting was perfect. And I think the actors really wanted to give their best in such an iconic filmatisation of one of the battles that forged the USA of today.
@gruntforever7437
@gruntforever7437 Күн бұрын
@@trident6547 absolutely agree. The acting in this movie was all on point; working to portray the characters as they were
@duanejessup3708
@duanejessup3708 5 жыл бұрын
You know they were sweating balls with those uniforms on in our good ol hi humidity.
@bbblythe6843
@bbblythe6843 4 жыл бұрын
I was there for the whole shoot I was. Gen McLaws being a reenactor I was used to. The wool uniforms once you get soaked with sweat it kinds acts like a coolant lol but the summer was very hot
@IrishCarney
@IrishCarney 4 жыл бұрын
@@bbblythe6843 The smell must have been unreal
@BELCAN57
@BELCAN57 4 жыл бұрын
@@bbblythe6843 this is my favorite Civil War film, it turned me into a reenactor. I've since gotten out of "The Hobby" but I have many fond memories of my time in "Mr. Lincoln's Army" Cheers!
@usersatch
@usersatch 4 жыл бұрын
#swampass
@randomtraveler9854
@randomtraveler9854 4 жыл бұрын
Living my entire life just 31 miles from Gettysburg (in York) I often wonder how many casualties there were due to dehydration and or heat exhaustion.
@SAVikingSA
@SAVikingSA 5 жыл бұрын
the battle is not what is important in life, it's the cities we burn along the way
@v8Buster87
@v8Buster87 4 жыл бұрын
To subdue your enemy without battle is the height of skill.
@astardustparade
@astardustparade 4 жыл бұрын
Do it again Uncle Billy! Do it again!
@Dom_510
@Dom_510 4 жыл бұрын
@Doug Bevins You're an actual moron. Sherman was a war criminal whose army raped and murdered civilians. Also the south were not traitors, the states all legally seceded. Lincoln shouldn't have committed unconstitutional acts like the suspension of habeas corpus and putting a blockade on southern ports. Lincoln imprisoned over 2000 of Northerners who critiqued him. He was a tyrant, and the south were fighting for their independence. Which they had every legal right to do so. Why else do you think Confederate President Jefferson Davis couldn't be tried by the Supreme Court for treason. Because no treason was committed you fucking moron.
@danlorett2184
@danlorett2184 4 жыл бұрын
@Doug Bevins You cannot simultaneously believe that the American Revolution was legitimate and yet the secession was not. They are based in the same principles.
@danlorett2184
@danlorett2184 4 жыл бұрын
@Doug Bevins Your problem is that you have the "liberal" version of the history of the Civil War. It was written by the victors to justify the war in the first place. Slavery was the straw that broke the camel's back. The underlying cause of the Civil War was that the Constitution gave power to the government by the number of states and the voting population of those states. Under those terms, the South became a vassal state to the whims of the Northern majority. They were HEAVILY taxed (per share of income they paid 6x what the North paid per capita) and on top of that they were ignored when it came to actual policy. The North taxed the South (the liquor tax alone accounted for 80% of Federal revenue prior to the Civil War and the South paid MOST (over 80% of the liquor tax) of that. The idea that the Civil War is ONLY about slavery is revisionist history. The South had far more legitimate grievances than that - and I'd remind you that the North STILL HELD SLAVES DURING THE ENTIRETY OF THE WAR!
@jobu88
@jobu88 2 жыл бұрын
Been to Gettysburg many times, including in early July. I can't imagine wearing those heavy wool uniforms in that heat.
@maggiesmith856
@maggiesmith856 11 ай бұрын
I have worn a wool blazer in very hot, humid weather and wasn't more uncomfortable with it on than when I took it off. It has to be pure wool, though, no blends with other fibres.
@carlhicksjr8401
@carlhicksjr8401 Жыл бұрын
I reenact a Regular Army regiment, the one that garrisoned my home state out West. The Civil War has been called 'brother against brother' and it is no more so than within the professional officer corps of both armies. There were less than 2000 professional officers in 1860, a **very** small club. After two or three postings, an officer would know every single other officer if only by reputation and mess gossip. These men were a small fraternity of war... the godfathers of each other's children and the in-laws of each other's sons and daughters. The movie 'Gettysburg' did a wonderful job in portraying that brotherhood. You notice this in how fellow professionals address each other by first name, but how the 'temporary hired hands' of the volunteers were addressed by rank.
@jasonwhitaker4883
@jasonwhitaker4883 2 жыл бұрын
“I’ll wait as long as I can” some historians say he waited to long, others say he got his divisions lost on the way to his positions from not knowing the layout of the ground and roads. I think some blame on Gettysburg falls on Longstreet just as much as Lee. If I remember right it wasn’t till mid day till Longstreet’s divisions engaged. Other historians say General Stickle’s may have created a diversion by moving off the line toward the confederate position. But that’s history. We can analyze every position over 150yrs later. Still love the civil war and it’s history.
@bobholly3843
@bobholly3843 2 жыл бұрын
As with anything in history, there are a lot of what-ifs. There are several times in this battle, or a number of others, that unknowingly hinged on certain tasks being carried out quickly and/or correctly. Culp's Hill bring taken on the first day, Longstreet attacking earlier in the day, Warren by chance not noticing the Confederate troops in the trees, Stuart's cavalry attack not being foiled before it could begin on the third day. Many tiny things that could have changed the outcome of battle.
@michaelzann6485
@michaelzann6485 Жыл бұрын
@@bobholly3843 There is a book I read that outlines 17 different circumstances that led to the Confederate defeat,all in descending order.I forget the name of the tome.Lee did have 2 cavalry brigades with him.Jones and Imboden back from a successful raid in W.Va.
@lorrainedixon4440
@lorrainedixon4440 Жыл бұрын
Longstreet is basically absolved these days of the terrible lies thrown at him for the last 100 hundred years by lost causers. He received his orders approx 11.00, given permission to wait for Laws brigade to arrive. Lees scouts misdirected the 1st Corp troops and then Sickles men were found sat on the start line. Lee and Longstreet then cobbled together a different plan and stepped off at approx 16.00 hrs to deliver one of the most deadly attacks of the war.
@lorrainedixon4440
@lorrainedixon4440 Жыл бұрын
It was Lees scouts that led Longstreet astray, and he didn’t receive his orders until 11.00hrs. Don’t just believe the lies told by lost causers.
@michaelzann6485
@michaelzann6485 Жыл бұрын
The ground was not properly scouted. Where is Stuart?
@jacklopinto750
@jacklopinto750 6 жыл бұрын
infalide fire means cannon& gun fire from the side flanks
@MichaelSnyder1776
@MichaelSnyder1776 3 жыл бұрын
Enfilade. But yes correct 😁
@BigManPigMan628
@BigManPigMan628 Жыл бұрын
The real General Hood was a whole lot younger, better looking, and was one of the more reckless and incompetent generals in the Civil War, albeit brave. They make him seem almost grandfatherly and wise in this film.
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 9 ай бұрын
He was young and headstrong.
@alabamaal225
@alabamaal225 23 күн бұрын
To use a football analogy: Hood was a good offensive or defensive coordinator, but was not suited to be a head coach, as he displayed commanding the Army of Tennessee.
@davidmurray5399
@davidmurray5399 Жыл бұрын
Another thing to keep in mind is that Pickett's division was without the brigades of Corse and Jenkins. These had been left behind in Virginia, and there were several other formations that could have gone to Pennsylvania with the Army of Northern Virginia that were kept to protect Richmond. It's estimated that Lee could have had nearly 12,000 additional troops for the campaign[roughly two additional divisional equivalents], which despite the logistical burden it would have brought, would have increased the fighting power of the Confederate Army.
@Invisibledrone-
@Invisibledrone- 11 ай бұрын
Good information. Thank you 😊
@adamkimberling6609
@adamkimberling6609 11 ай бұрын
Yeah they would have either been even out or the Confederate army was still have been outnumbered by few thousand men. Because the Union army had about 80,000 to 90,000 some sources said 100,000 men at that time. Confederates only had 70,000 to 75,000 men.
@blueduck5589
@blueduck5589 11 ай бұрын
In any case, the Union had enough ammo for all of 'em.
@Farlomous
@Farlomous 7 ай бұрын
@@adamkimberling6609 the Union also had roughly 10,000 men coming out of Harper's Ferry and West Virginia to the west, and Couch had something like another 10,000 in the Harrisburg region. the Union intelligence knew what Lee had and roughly where they were, so the most likely outcome is delaying skirmishes at Gettysburg falling back on Meade's Pipe Creek defenses further south and east. this would have pulled Lee into a three pronged pincer movement which odds are would have destroyed the Army of Northern Virginia. and this isn't counting the other smaller commands scattered about the region that Halleck authorized Meade to draw from should he choose to.
@adamkimberling6609
@adamkimberling6609 7 ай бұрын
@@Farlomous that is also true. There is no way lee would escape back to Virginia if these additional men were called up. Lee and his army would have been slow because they had miles and miles of wounded either in wagons or walking if abled.
@luvslogistics1725
@luvslogistics1725 3 жыл бұрын
“This little rocky hill, the unoccupied one”...
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 3 жыл бұрын
Up until that point in the war union secondary commanders at divisional and brigade level severely lacked initiative. Some better officers had started sifting up through the ranks and replacing McClellan's people, and it was a divisional commander who'd risen up through the ranks that sent a brigade onto those hills to try to hold it. In a way that little bit of initiative defeated the entire Confederacy, and it Union subleaders ahd shown proper initiative at several points earlier in the war, it would have been a much shorter affair.
@luvslogistics1725
@luvslogistics1725 3 жыл бұрын
@@hagamapama I did not know.
@davidmcphail5653
@davidmcphail5653 2 жыл бұрын
I have studied the Civil War since I was a young boy. And I was motivated in my study by the 23 ancestors that were boys in gray. I had 3 great great great grandfathers in Heth’s Div. marching up the Chambersburg Pike Road on the first day. One of the things about this epic movie, is each time the generals on both sides had a chance they would refer to each other by their first names. “ Sam, you take care of yourself... You too Pete!” But NEVER EVER would you hear Gen. Lee involved in it. He was a loan figure.
@EnemyAce88
@EnemyAce88 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Chambersburg :)
@superintendentchalmers8034
@superintendentchalmers8034 Жыл бұрын
Lee says "I'm gonna need your help, Pete" near the end when he is grieving about the losses and stressing about the extraction of his army when they are sitting at the campfire.
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 Жыл бұрын
That right. Informally it's first names, but "on duty" for lack of a better term it's "Yes sir!"
@gfak123
@gfak123 11 ай бұрын
Objective was to capture Washington. Stuart left Lee blind. Lost the high ground
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 9 ай бұрын
@@gfak123 I like Jeb...but he was a cowboy.
@panzerken
@panzerken 8 жыл бұрын
Gettysbeard!
@Arbeedubya
@Arbeedubya 7 жыл бұрын
Check out pictures of the real James Kemper (played by Royce Applegate, who doesn't even remotely resemble him) for a beard. Also Fitzhugh Lee, and, of course, Jeb Stuart.
@erikluz9999
@erikluz9999 5 жыл бұрын
Obamasburg
@hiitsmehereagain
@hiitsmehereagain 5 жыл бұрын
panzerken fantastico
@joandaniels9241
@joandaniels9241 4 жыл бұрын
I-
@gruntforever7437
@gruntforever7437 Күн бұрын
Beards were quite common at that time.
@michaelstrunk6058
@michaelstrunk6058 5 жыл бұрын
Both father and son of my ancestors fought on the same day for the Union at Gettysburg. Though, the father fought the first two days and the son for the next two.
@snappy452
@snappy452 13 жыл бұрын
The acting in the last part of this clip is A+. Theres not one sign that was even scripted. Amazing. Thats what makes this movie, though it be 4 1/2 hrs long, so re-watchable.
@SoBelleofTN
@SoBelleofTN 15 жыл бұрын
Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson, was indeed a rare man, I don't think he could have been replaced. His tactac's are still being studied in war colleges today.He may have been hard on his men, but he was brillant at what he did. Jackson graduated from West Point in a class which was to furnish twenty four general officers to the United States and Confederate armies between 1861 & 1865. He resigned his comission to become an instructor at Virginia Military Institute (VMI) he is buried there.
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously he couldn't be replaced. Both Hood and A. P. Hill were brilliant division commanders but when in higher command (Hood in Georgia, Hill as corps commander) neither did well. Jackson was one of a kind. Sheridan might have been his equal in his '64 Valley Campaign but the South was pretty well fought out by then so it's not really an apt comparison.
@evanmoorman3828
@evanmoorman3828 Жыл бұрын
Jackson has very little to teach modern armies. He performed very poorly at the Seven Days Battle and his slowness was a major reason for the belatedness of the flank attack at Chancellorsville. Attacking at 1 or 2 in the afternoon would have allowed the Confederates to push the Union Army all the way to Germana and United States Ford. He was gifted in some arenas but in no way is comparable to the modern tactics of US Grant or someone like that. Same for Lee.
@HuesopandillaGlorius
@HuesopandillaGlorius 11 ай бұрын
​@@evanmoorman3828obviously the current war is not even comparable to a war of 160 years ago. It is an absurd comparison that you make, for your information the seven day battle, neither Jackson nor Longstreet were so involved, in any case, the person responsible for that "bad result" would be Lee and only read, since it was well known that the attacks by Longstreet and Jackson consisted of being more aggressive, without offending but you should study the civil war more thoroughly
@evanmoorman3828
@evanmoorman3828 11 ай бұрын
@@HuesopandillaGlorius of course. I was analogizing to make a point. I have studied the Civil War quite a bit and Jackson was involved in essentially every battle of the seven days battle campaign (as was Longstreet). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_Jackson Jackson, who was to be fair to him, probably sleep deprived, performed very poorly.
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 9 ай бұрын
Stonewall would have taken Cemetery and Culp's Hills you can bet!
@johnbertrand7185
@johnbertrand7185 2 жыл бұрын
The actor playing General Hood, Patrick Gorman, was 59 years old at the time of this movie. The real age of John Bell Hood at Gettysburg? 32
@alienlife7754
@alienlife7754 11 ай бұрын
Great movie! Martin Sheen does a great job as Robert E. Lee.
@TheChonaman
@TheChonaman 5 жыл бұрын
A never ending conversation. What if? And most background shows that episodes such as this were an indication of how close it was. It was no "blowout". It was a very marginal victory for Meade's army, even though they had the advantage in numbers and defensive terrain all 3 days overall. It was a close victory for Meade's army, and a crippling loss for Lee's army, based upon numbers lost versus the replenishing forces available on each side after the battle. If this were a battle of David vs Goliath, it is clear that David's missile glanced Goliath's head, and Goliath recovered quickly to squash David's shoulders, arms, and fingers as he retreated.
@Shatamx
@Shatamx Жыл бұрын
@@misterscollard Correct. The Souths economy was all but ruined at this point.
@michaelsharp1991
@michaelsharp1991 5 жыл бұрын
What honor both armies had. Leadership was second to none.
@KonstantineMortis13
@KonstantineMortis13 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I wish briefings as a Tank Commander in the Marines were this short...
@fatdaddyeddiejr
@fatdaddyeddiejr 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an Army tanker. And ours were just as bad.
@KonstantineMortis13
@KonstantineMortis13 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatdaddyeddiejr I have absolutely no doubt. If I have to listen to another butter bar fumble his way through a briefing one more time, I swear to God...
@fivestarmichael
@fivestarmichael 15 жыл бұрын
The greatest wisdom I have read on KZfaq.
@skincauldron
@skincauldron 15 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info, Zappiss. Always great to learn something new about the war. Like I said, I only have general knowledge (no pun intended) about the war. I pretty much knew that someone more well informed would eventually tell me something I did not know before. BTW, thanks for uploading this scene from this most incredible movie. :-)
@swingset1969
@swingset1969 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting scene, because literally everything said went the opposite of how it should, including Hood taking care of himself.
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 3 жыл бұрын
Hood's injury was a totally freak thing; he was still back of the line giving instructions when that piece of shrapnel got him. He was one unlucky dude, but then so were many others killed and injured in freak ways.
@stevenm3823
@stevenm3823 3 жыл бұрын
General Sickles and his movement of III Corps up to the Emmitsburg Road disrupted the entire Confederate plan for July 2nd...the move is still debated and controversial to this day but the more I read about it the more I agree with it.
@stevenm3823
@stevenm3823 3 жыл бұрын
@Harold Slick A great book on the subject is "Gettysburg's Peach Orchard-Longstreet, Sickles, and the Bloody Fight for the "Commanding Ground" Along the Emmitsburg Road" by James A. Hessler and Britt C. Isenberg, both Gettysburg battlefield guides.
@neroresurrected
@neroresurrected 2 жыл бұрын
@@indy_go_blue6048 it was war, thousands of men were unlucky too.
@jejeakle
@jejeakle 2 жыл бұрын
@@neroresurrected all 750,000 of them
@spookyshadowhawk6776
@spookyshadowhawk6776 5 жыл бұрын
The first modern war fought with Napoleonic Tatics. The Rifled Muskets useing Minnie Balls were Effective in volley fire at a 1,000 yard's, accurate for a trained sharpshooter at 800 yard's, for the average shooter at 300 yard's compared to the smoothbore volley fire at a 120 yard's and aimed fire at 80 yards. The rifled cannon had ranges of 3 to 7 miles compared to the Napoleon 12 pounder range of one mile. Against the older Weapons Pickett's Charge would have succeeded, coming under cannon fire at 3 quaters of a mile with solid shot and Musket fire at 120 yard's giveing 3 volleys in the time to cross the distance. Pickett's Men came under cannon fire as soon as they started, at the fence half a mile from the Union Line under Volley fire and the aimed fire of sharpshooters. In the 4 to 5 minutes to cross to the Union Lines they were hit by 12 to 15 volleys of increasing more accurate fire as they got closer to the Union Line, in the last 100 yard's the rapid fire Spencer's and Henry's added to the Carnage as did the canister shot from the cannons. The few who made it to the Union Lines were quickly overwhelmed. You see the French and British charge German trenches and Heavy Machineguns the same way in the First World War, with far greater losses. Old Tatics against new weapons technologies result in mass causalities. For the British, 20,000 killed and 30,000 wounded in just a few hours. They had telegraph lines strung behind them and very fast communication for the time, extensive use of the railroads to move men and supplies, balloons with telegraph lines for surveillance of enemy movements and to shift Artillery Fire onto enemy formations. Gatteling guns which weren't used much because of the amounts of Ammunition they consumed. The weapons were mass produced with interchangeable part's, something new in warfare. Still, the Officers clung to the old Tatics they had learned to use in the War with Mexico, horribly outdated by this time.
@joeblow4155
@joeblow4155 4 жыл бұрын
Lee's was in the corp of engineers and knew the value of knowing the terrain yet in this most critical of battles he did not have good intelligence on the union's right flank. Really lost the battle on the 2nd day.
@rickmaurer8726
@rickmaurer8726 3 жыл бұрын
The map is inaccurate. Lee only knew of Federal forces along Cemetery Ridge and his staff reported the round tops were unoccupied. The actual plan involved Longstreet swinging wide and hitting the Union forces on Cemetery Ridge on the flank. Longstreet was surprised when he discovered the Federal line was much further and more forward than originally planned. This forced him to make alterations on the fly that further slowed the attack.
@truthteller9154
@truthteller9154 3 жыл бұрын
It also didn't help either that Longstreet waited around most of the day to attack. Most of the 2nd day was fought in the late afternoon and evening. Lee wanted to attack in the morning. Imagine if they did attack early? That means that Dan Sickles wouldn't have moved forward and the Alabamians would have captured Little Round Top along with the Texans or at the very least met with lesser resistance making the attack more successful.
@rickmaurer8726
@rickmaurer8726 3 жыл бұрын
@@truthteller9154 Wasn't so much that he was waiting as Longstreets enemies claimed forcefully later, but rather his two divisions were exhausted from long marches and humid weather. Then being forces to take another long, roundabout march to reach their attack position. Moving lines on paper is easy but moving actual large bodies of men is another undertaking. If that damn fool Sickles had stayed in place, his men would have had ample time to pile up rocks and trees for cover. We would have seen a repeat of Culps and Cemetery Hill where the Confederates attacked and mowed down by protected Union troops. Hell only two brigades on Culps Hill managed to hold off most Ewells corps on the second day alone because the terrain was just that difficult and the Union defenses that prepared.
@truthteller9154
@truthteller9154 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickmaurer8726 The point I was making is Little Round Top was still undefended in the morning on the 2nd and if the attacks were made by just one brigade or even a regiment during the morning could have made a major impact on the battle itself. Whether or not it would have been a winning factor is debatable. Hindsight is 20/20. Longstreet was known to procrastinate which is costly in any battle. Four months after Gettysburg Longstreet through procrastination made the mistake at trying to take Ft. Sanders. He waited 6 days before making an assault on the fort, giving Burnside ample time for stronger fortifications and took massive casualties. Longstreet outnumbered Burnside 7-1 and lost due to waiting to attack the fort for a week. Don't get me wrong I like Longstreet because he saw the big picture in war opposed to Lee however he could be slow and procrastinate.
@xisotopex
@xisotopex 2 жыл бұрын
@@truthteller9154 Lee had been waiting for satisfactory recon of the union left and didnt even issue orders until 1100 or so, and there was still quit a bit of marching to get in to position on the right. Artillery was not yet in position. They had to find roads with which their flanking movement would be unobserved. Hood, as he was getting his infantry into position, scouted a little further to the right, and found the way clear to take the union troops and supply trains from the rear. Hood requested twice, to deploy further to the right, and was denied by Longstreet. To add to all of this, it was Longstreet alone in this battle, no other part of the Confederate line was attacking anywhere else.
@davidmcphail5653
@davidmcphail5653 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always enjoyed how, the higher the rank, the more often you hear the generals call each other by their first name; or even a shortened version like “You too Pete.” But no one, I mean NO ONE, would EVER call General Lee... Robert.
@alonsocushing2263
@alonsocushing2263 3 жыл бұрын
Many called him Bobby. But probably not to his face.
@MichaelAnthony-bw2kl
@MichaelAnthony-bw2kl 2 жыл бұрын
Ewell called him Bobert once. Never happened again.
@notmenotme614
@notmenotme614 2 жыл бұрын
I once said to him “yo Little Bob, wazzzzup”. I ended up as point man during Pickett’s charge
@wes2262
@wes2262 2 жыл бұрын
@@notmenotme614 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@charlesbukowski9836
@charlesbukowski9836 2 жыл бұрын
@@notmenotme614 hehehe
@snappy452
@snappy452 12 жыл бұрын
Lee fell victim to the same invincibility complex which was the downfall of the man who developed the tactics both armies were using - Napoleon. Its amazing that after 3 1/2 years of waiting for the election cycle to turn over, just months prior to what would have been a sure McClellan victory and armistice with the Confederacy, Lee in all his brilliance just blew it all on Gettysburg.
@anathardayaldar
@anathardayaldar 2 жыл бұрын
So he went full George Lucas. So high on the kool-aid of his past successes that he wouldn't listen to criticism.
@ronaldshank7589
@ronaldshank7589 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Gen. Lee wasn't listening to anybody! Yet, the first two days of the Gettysburg Campaign, the Confederates nearly won Gettysburg. On the third day, though... nope! The Union Forces had the high ground, and a good many of them were fighting from behind a Stone Wall. Sending in 15,000 Confederate Forces from the State of Virginia (which is my home State), over ground that was looked at, as being the perfect field for the Union Forces to use the Confederate Forces as Target Practice (So to speak), resulted in at least a 50% casualty rate. Gen. Pickett's division was, for all intents and purposes, torn to shreds! Gen. Pickett never forgave Gen. Lee for that. His words were:"That Old Man had my division slaughtered"!
@jamesbutler8821
@jamesbutler8821 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ronaldshank7589 I would not agree that the CSA nearly won the first two days at Gettysburg. Buford and Reynolds handily held them the first day, but even if they hadn't, it would have only been a minor victory as the full armies were not there yet. By the second day Meade had men pouring in. What is not shown in the movie was that even had Hood prevailed at Little Roubd Top against the 20th Maine there were troops all over the place available to be poured in. Fresh troops, unbloodied, fighting Hood and McLaws exhausted, dehydrated and decimated men. Likewise, Ewell was handily repulsed further north. Meade had the advantage of somewhat interior lines, knowing the ground, ample reserves, being somewhat fortified, and decent knowledge of the enemy dispositions. What is evident is not how bad a failure Lee had but how much of an opportunity Meade missed. If I had been him I would have cackled with glee at Lee attacking on Cemetery Ridge. I think I might have instructed my men to actually withdraw in hopes that Lee would pour more men in, then Meade could have encircled and destroyed an entire corps or more, then attacked and destroyed what was left of Lee's force opposite.
@ronaldshank7589
@ronaldshank7589 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbutler8821 I'll tell you what:It was said that the Confederates nearly won both days, and you have to understand, that I was only going by what I saw in the movie, so, upon reconsideration on my part, maybe it wasn't that close. You and I don't know, verbatim, what really happened, because we weren't there. Maybe you're right. I will agree with you, on the point that you made, about the Union Forces pouring in from all over the place. I readily agree with you on that point. What really blew the whole thing for the Confederate Forces, was that stupid charge that Gen. Lee ordered, known as Pickett's Charge. I think you and I can agree on one very important question:What was Gen. Lee even thinking?!? What was up with that?!? Gen. George Pickett never forgave Gen. Lee for that, and brooded on that specific loss until his dying day. His words were:"That Old Man had my division slaughtered"! Gen. Lee put more Confederate Troops in harm's way, and in death's way,in that one disastrous charge, than at any other time during the Civil War, at least up to that point. This one error on his part cost at least 7,500 Brave Confederates either their very lives, or at least being wounded, missing, or being captured by the Union. As I text this to you, I'm shaking my head in disbelief, that one "General", who was known to be one of the absolute best Military Commanders that this Nation has ever known, would do such a horrible thing. It definitely sullied his reputation! I'll close with this to you: Have a very happy Memorial Day, Sir!
@jamesbutler8821
@jamesbutler8821 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldshank7589 Please, do some reading on the battle. NEVER, EVER base your historical knowledge on anything you see on the screen. 'We don't know, verbatim, what really happened, because we weren't there'??? LOL Ok. I have read more eyewitness accounts and military reports and historical analysis than I can count. In addition, I have actually toured the battlefield and walked the ground. Unless you are presuming all those people were liars we DO know what happened, in very great detail. On the battlefield you can actually get an even better idea of what happened than from a book by seeing and walking the actual ground and seeing not only where the relevant units were at key moments of the battle, but also units on their flank and rear. The movie, for example makes it seem like the 20th Maine was all alone at Little Round Top. The reality was that they were far from alone in defending it and there were troops all over who would have held up any local success by Hood there. I also fault the movie for completely omitting the battles over Culp's Hill ( touring there NOT very helpful FYI, because the NPS has allowed it become overgrown and look completely different than it did) and the spanking Stuart got. They also don't adequately show that Meade had troops piled on troops at Cemetery ridge, that he used to not only repel Pickett but advance on his flanks and fire into him from three sides and the reality of his dispositions was that he had the advantage of interior lines to pull men from other areas to meet attacks while Lee was fully committed or had divisions already spent from prior engagements. If Meade had not been so new to command he could have easily taken advantage of Lee's blindness to annihilate his entire army by quick marching a division or two to get in Lee's rear. That might be expecting a bit much of the Union troops then though, by 1864 Sheridan's cavalry alone would have chewed him to pieces.
@kpz1234
@kpz1234 5 жыл бұрын
"George, can you take that ridge?"
@willoutlaw4971
@willoutlaw4971 3 жыл бұрын
The only way Lee could win at Gettysburg was if General Meade and the United States Army did not show up.
@lostpapertown
@lostpapertown 3 жыл бұрын
Or retreat simply find a battlefield where you can hide and wait for Meade to attack
@fatdaddyeddiejr
@fatdaddyeddiejr 3 жыл бұрын
It was nice to see General Barkdale from Mississippi. We won't see him later in movie. He was shot on the 2nd day of battle. Left to die by his soliders that thought he was dead. But he would die a few days later at a Union field hospital.
@rc59191
@rc59191 3 жыл бұрын
Love how the map looks exactly like the ones in Grand Tactician Civil War.
@lhaviland8602
@lhaviland8602 4 жыл бұрын
15th Alabama: Nooooo you can't just charge into our flank like that! We were winning! 20th Maine: Haha bayonnet go brrrrr.
@petersampson5202
@petersampson5202 3 жыл бұрын
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@trident6547
@trident6547 Ай бұрын
Are you ok? Perhaps you should increase your medication?
@geneyaher7888
@geneyaher7888 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact, the 2 generals that commanded the opposite ends of the Confederate line, Hood in the south, Edward "Allegany" Johnson in the northeast, would be together in the Army of Tennessee a year later during the disastrous battles of Franklin and Nashville.
@michaeleverest7631
@michaeleverest7631 8 жыл бұрын
I like how Colonel Alexander, the Artillery Commander steps into the group behind Longstreet just as the briefingis over!I was expecting someone to ask Why are you late?
@ajmage5319
@ajmage5319 5 жыл бұрын
Sir I'm 28 Sir!
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 5 жыл бұрын
he was listening, but artillery and cavalry usually receive specific orders regarding action after the main briefing. Infantry takes longer to organize so the infantry leaders have to leave early.
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 9 ай бұрын
Longstreet's was usually late.
@Ares99999
@Ares99999 6 жыл бұрын
I love how Lee said he spoke to General Ewell. Because you can see that he was pretty much using what Ewell said to shore up his own argument. Given that Lee was heavily biased against Longstreet's idea, one wonders if he didn't paint a picture that made Ewell naturally agree that Longstreet's idea would be bad.
@printolive5512
@printolive5512 4 жыл бұрын
Longstreet was right and history would prove him right about this battle.
@ericstoverink6579
@ericstoverink6579 3 жыл бұрын
There is a deleted scene that shows this conversation with Ewell.
@paulhoffman778
@paulhoffman778 5 жыл бұрын
To all of you who say I didn't like this or that, you cast this movie, or shut up this was well done.
@elxaime
@elxaime 4 жыл бұрын
Longstreet delayed his attack until the rest of his beard had arrived...a fatal error.
@JohnnyRebKy
@JohnnyRebKy 4 жыл бұрын
Karl Tanner exactly right!! “ I’ll wait as long as I can”.....then everyone blames Lee
@usersatch
@usersatch 4 жыл бұрын
That was a frequent complaint lodged against Longstreet--he would engage the enemy before his entire beard had been brought up and put on line.
@randomtraveler9854
@randomtraveler9854 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyRebKy Lee sealed his fate when he allowed the Union to take the high ground. Leading a successful attack against such rocky hights is difficult enough but to do it outnumbered, outgunned, and on emeny soil? Longstreet's delay didn't help but withdrawing to better ground would have increased his chances. Any "bad morale" would have quickly disappeared with a victory.
@JohnnyRebKy
@JohnnyRebKy 4 жыл бұрын
Random Traveler and how do you propose Lee move the entire army and it’s 50 miles worth of wagon trains around concentrated enemy?? Lee didn’t see it practicable and I agree with him
@jacksons1010
@jacksons1010 4 жыл бұрын
JohnnyRebKy They blame Lee for disregarding his own plan - to find a suitable defensive position and induce Meade to attack. Lee accepted the reverse situation, and once set upon the ruinous course could not be swayed from it. As for Longstreet’s delay, at least this movie accurately depicts the timing of Lee’s orders, dispensing with the lie that this occurred in the pre-dawn hour.
@pootao66
@pootao66 11 жыл бұрын
You are right, most confederates did not own slaves. But the planters conditioned Southern culture, led the South out of the union and into war when there was no threat to state sovereignty or even to slavery. The rest followed. You might as well say that before Hitler took over, most Germans weren't Nazis. No, they weren't, but they went along easily enough.
@Sphere723
@Sphere723 5 жыл бұрын
It's also like saying most West Virginians don't own coal mines, so why should they care about the coal industry? Plantations run on slave labor were the economic engine of the south.
@tpsu129
@tpsu129 10 жыл бұрын
@emfceql20 to the left of General Hood is General Heth with the bandaged head. To the right is General McLaw.
@Emfceql20
@Emfceql20 3 жыл бұрын
I knew Heth but there's another general behind Hood, next to McClaws. I'm thinking he's Anderson?
@NBT2469
@NBT2469 5 жыл бұрын
Martin Sheen from the show "The West Wing" as Robert E. Lee......awesome.
@HugsBach
@HugsBach 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Duvall who portrayed General R. E. Lee, in "Gods and Generals, " is an actual descendant of Lee. Has physical traits identified with Lee. 😉👍
@stevenm3823
@stevenm3823 4 жыл бұрын
This entire attack plan was disrupted by General Sickles movement of his Third Corps up to the Emmitsburg Road and thus the fierce fighting around the Peach Orchard....Sickles move is still questioned today either as a terrible decision or as the right move to deny the Confederates suitable ground to place their artillery...it's an argument that will go on forever I guess.
@frederic94000
@frederic94000 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I am one of the few Who think that Sickles save the Union on the second day. He might be a terrible person, But he could fight sure.
@frederic94000
@frederic94000 4 жыл бұрын
For sure
@stevenm3823
@stevenm3823 4 жыл бұрын
@@frederic94000 Have you read the book "Gettysburg's Peach Orchard-Longstreet, Sickles, and the Bloody Fight for "Commanding Ground" Along the Emmitsburg Road".....very extensively detailed account of the savage fighting there and how it so much affected what was done the next day with the ordering of Picketts Charge......also "Sickles at Gettysburg" is a great read about explaining his decision to move the Third Corps forward to the Emmitsburg Road.
@frederic94000
@frederic94000 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I will certainly take a look at it sounds very interesting. This one is very interesting too. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbhmgJNenbWdips.html It could be a reason why Lee orders Pickett s charge, union center was almost penetrated on day 2.
@jameskarg3240
@jameskarg3240 3 жыл бұрын
True. Sickles may have made a tactically horrible move (hed also lose his leg from a cannon round this day of battle) but he also provided JUST enough time for Chamberlains men to work their way to those exact hills and hold the rebels. Lee would be right at the end however: This battle eould be VERY close
@haynes1776
@haynes1776 6 жыл бұрын
When they made this movie, Im sure they did their best to make the uniforms, weapons, military life, everything both sides experienced during the war, and portray the historical figures. Martin Sheen Did his best to portray LEE. The others I know they acted their hearts out.
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 4 жыл бұрын
the man playing Barksdale is his actual descendant.
@haynes1776
@haynes1776 3 жыл бұрын
@@SantomPh wow. I did not know that.
@1223steffen
@1223steffen 11 жыл бұрын
sheen should have been nominated for an oscar
@sdr24
@sdr24 11 ай бұрын
The movie portrays Longstreet as being right in his desire to redeploy the army to force Mead to come to them, and Lee being wrong in his desire to assault the entrenched Union army on the ridges. That's probably the simplest way to convey how Gettysburg played out. But it was a bit more complicated than that. Lee did reject Longstreet's suggestion to redeploy the entire army or move his entire division on a flanking maneuver. But that does not mean that Lee forbade Longstreet to take any flanking action at all. Later, Hood asks Longstreet to let him move around to Big Round Top and command the heights to flank the Union line. Longstreet refuses claiming that Lee won't allow ANY flanking action. But Lee never actually said no flanking was allowed at all, and based on Lee's style of command, he probably would have been perfectly content if Longstreet had allowed a flanking movement up Big Round Top. Lee - like most good commanders - was willing to let his subordinates take the initiative and run with good ideas independently. He would have probably been OK with Longstreet sending some brigades up Big Round Top. The problem was, by the time Hood asked Longstreet to let him flank to the right, it was already late in the morning. Longstreet was sour about Lee's rejection of his suggestions and delayed the preparation of his Division some hours. If he'd deployed quicker, there probably would have been time for Hood to deploy a couple brigades to take Big Round Top. But due to the delay, by the time Hood is requesting the flanking movement, the time to conduct the frontal assault was already upon them and there wasn't time to redeploy. Longstreet therefore is able to truthfully tell Hood that he wouldn't have time to get a battery up on Big Round Top because he wouldn't even be in action until dark. But that was slightly disingenuous - because the reason there was no time was because of Longstreet's delay and his possible sulking - concluding that Lee had rejected ALL maneuver, when Lee actually had done no such thing - he'd just rejected the notion of redeploying the ENTIRE army of Northern Virginia. History more or less shows that Longstreet was right to want to redeploy the army. But that doesn't mean that Longstreet's grudging and possibly even deliberate delaying the morning of the second day didn't hurt the Confederate plan a lot. If Longstreet had moved quicker and independently decided to seize Big Round Top early in the morning, the battle of the second day would have gone quite differently.
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 9 ай бұрын
Longstreet's delay on Day 2 cost them the battle.
@BIRISHPM
@BIRISHPM 13 жыл бұрын
Lee did not know the Union Army was repositiioning in strength on Little Round Top, his attack was on his enemies flank was his best offensive option at that time. Longstreet was slow in positioning for the attack which gave the Union the time to reinforce along Little Round Top. The attack on the second day was sound militarily and nearly succeeded, if it were not due to the brilliant leadership of Col. Joshua Chamberlain, the battle would have gone to Lee and his army.
@tonywood8883
@tonywood8883 11 жыл бұрын
Logic suggests it is Anderson near to Hill - he also has a likeness compared to photos of Anderson himself
@Javiescala
@Javiescala 15 жыл бұрын
After Gettysburg the Lee army is only defense. The mission now is protect Richmond.
@forhisworship
@forhisworship 4 жыл бұрын
Dee Criss Sound Mix in this film was amazing
@snappy452
@snappy452 12 жыл бұрын
Im not sure if that scene is in the movie, or if its another youre remembering, but if it was then it was probably in one of the camp scenes where Lee is speaking to Longstreet.
@thomasnever2552
@thomasnever2552 5 жыл бұрын
The best laid plans of mice and men.
@billbright1755
@billbright1755 5 жыл бұрын
Well, it looked good on paper. Lafayette McLaws, class of 42 West Point, the peach orchard and the wheat field at Gettysburg. Defending Maryes Heights Fredericksburg Virginia December 13th 1862. Augusta Georgia. 1, 15, 1821 ~ 7, 24, 1897 Savanna Georgia. 🇬🇪
@dennismartin5821
@dennismartin5821 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir, It very well did, but Lee could have just left.
@DEP717
@DEP717 6 жыл бұрын
If Hooker had just held his original assigned position.... one does wonder. Incredible bravery in that battle. It saved the Union for sure.
@checkmateking2854
@checkmateking2854 5 жыл бұрын
Hooker wasn't at Gettysburg
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 3 жыл бұрын
@@checkmateking2854 I think that's what he meant though the sentence isn't clear. Either he meant Sickles staying on Cemetery Ridge or if Hooker had remained GinC of the AoP.
@five_o_fever9381
@five_o_fever9381 3 жыл бұрын
@@indy_go_blue6048 I think he meant Sickles.
@charleschapman6810
@charleschapman6810 7 жыл бұрын
Another result of JEBStuart's absence was that Lee had no accurate map of the Gettysburg area, and based his plan on the report of some infantry officers sent out on foot to schout the roads. As a result, Longstreet;s Corps was sent out on an attempt to get around the Union left flank, covered by hills and trees and then emerge into the open and assault Little Round Top when it be already too late to send reinforcement there. Longstreet ambled down the road-and found the emergence point was in plain sight of a Union signal stationon his objective, hurriedly wig-wagging away. With Lee's plan gan aglee, Longstreet countermarched to get back to a better emergent point from which to launch his "surprise" attack. countermarched, adding a whole hour to the process, then paused to allow his men's canteens to be refilled, finally stepping off for the attack before the canteen party returned to their units. By this time, a full brigade, including the 20th Maine had beat feet up Round topped was improvising a defensive line. The Confederates who tried to make the originally planned attack bogged down in the bolder pile Devil's Demand later trying to break through the Union 6th Corps which had advanced without orders from the base of Round top exposing itself to to the oncoming CSA attack on disadvantageous ground. Sykes explained that there was higher ground in his front. His superior pointed out that would be the casein any position Sykes could reach "from here to the Allegeny mountains!"As a result, Longstreet's attack was remarkably feeble when it finally went in, long afterLee's attack on the Union right flank had fizzled out. Lee lost thousands of irreplaceable confederate veterans for no decisive result!
@Shatamx
@Shatamx 4 жыл бұрын
General Barksdale fell and was left for dead. Died the next day in the Hummelbaugh farmhouse.
@spade2187
@spade2187 3 жыл бұрын
Good
@Shafeone
@Shafeone 12 жыл бұрын
Please. If the war wasn't about slavery then why was the CSA exclusively slave-holding (as many of the states referred to themselves in numerous articles of separation)? Why was the core issue that underpinned compromises in 1787, 1820 and 1850 that kept the union together slavery? Why was "States' Rats" suddenly not so important when it was Northern states' rights that was usurped by draconian federal overlords enforcing adherence to fugitive slave laws despite their strong opposition?
@ziblot1235
@ziblot1235 3 жыл бұрын
Lincoln raised an army to attack the southern states. Without the invasion slavery could have been handled peacefullly as it was everywhere else in the world. ihe slaves represented a lot of money. All the money that Lincoln spent killing southerners could have beeen used to reemberse southern planters. The Yooeman farmers and city dwellers had no slaves. So dont tell me they went to war over slavery. They repreented a very small number of people.I had 5 relatives that served in the CSA, none owned a slave between them.
@rodgerkent2078
@rodgerkent2078 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video, its realistic and accurate ,and am sure civil war buffs will enjoy it
@charlestonchewy
@charlestonchewy 15 жыл бұрын
Heth was also cousin to Pickett! Both had something in common, they both graduated last of their classes at West Point.
@jojo51886
@jojo51886 9 жыл бұрын
Lee should have pulled out of Gettysburg as soon as the Union Army was occupying that hill. He could have easily pulled out of Gettysburg by giving orders for the army to pull out and threaten Washington DC. The Union Army would not have stayed on that hill with angry politicians calling him to protect the city. Would have given Lee the chance to chose where the fight takes place and causes the Union Army to rush to Lee to stop him tired and probably hungry, Lees force could have had a major advantage and probably would have won the war if the Union Army was defeated. So close to DC US Govt would have had no choice but to surrender and end the war
@robhara7911
@robhara7911 8 жыл бұрын
+Area51UfosAliensFartingBowling Yes Washington was defended by a few forts and a huge garrison army, but if lee won and destroyed the Army of the potomac the news alone would be devastating and the garrison force with little experience in battle would have very low morale and might break under a Confederate attack, on the other hand Lee would have been thought of as invincible and the confederate troops would have a high Esprit de corps much like Napoleon and his Grand Armee who almost always fought outnumbered.
@jacobeast1
@jacobeast1 8 жыл бұрын
Tough sell getting miles upon miles of wagon trains and troops around that flank. Longstreet had the right idea, but once day one was over, Lee had little choice but to stay and fight it out. Pickett's charge was a bad idea, but otherwise Lee played it dead on right. Just couldn't get it done.
@Bayard1503
@Bayard1503 7 жыл бұрын
I doubt even conquering Washington would have ended the war...
@jojo51886
@jojo51886 7 жыл бұрын
no the Union force was the army of the Potomac it was at gettysburg
@jojo51886
@jojo51886 7 жыл бұрын
even his commanders gave him the same advice to threaten Washington it wouldn't have ended the war but the point of it would be to let Lee choose how the battle goes, let him choose where he fights rather then letting the union do that if he had the Union would have lost Gettysburg. They only won because of their strong defensive position and Lees unwillingness to alter his battle plan
@trajan75
@trajan75 5 жыл бұрын
Gettysburg was a long shot. I believe Lee tried it because he realized that the South could not win a war of attrition. Also I think he was nervous about Grant's threatening Vicksburg.
@TheStapleGunKid
@TheStapleGunKid 4 жыл бұрын
Vicksburg fell the day after Gettysburg. Even if Lee had won at Gettysburg, the fall of Vicksburg would still put them in a bad position.
@gruntforever7437
@gruntforever7437 Күн бұрын
@@TheStapleGunKid It is doubtful that Lee could have won a great victory no matter what. and that was the only thing that might have prevented their loss
@thelastsaints101
@thelastsaints101 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny, they make Hood look like he was way older than he actually was during gettysburg. He actually was in his late twenties when the war started and early thirties when it ended. Quite young to be a lieutenant general in the Confederate Army.
@WindersRanger
@WindersRanger 2 жыл бұрын
Historically this took place on the west side of Gettysburg at the Mary Thompson house on Chamberburg Pike. The movie filmed this in the Rose Farm near the wheat field not far from Little round top in the area the second days fight took place.
@bstrakos2934
@bstrakos2934 6 жыл бұрын
Jackson would have taken Little Round Top the first day then told Lee he did it.
@checkmateking2854
@checkmateking2854 5 жыл бұрын
Jackson would have been on the left with his corps.
@jbillz8515
@jbillz8515 5 жыл бұрын
You mean Culp’s Hill. Not Little Round Top. Baldy Dick Ewell took over Jackson’s Corp after his death. If you watch the deleted portion after the first days battle, Gen. Ewell is telling Lee that he should have taken the hill meaning Culps Hill. They attacked too late in the evening and it was so dark that both sides literally bypassed each other. If Ewell would have reached the top of Culps Hill he would have seen the Baltimore Pike which runs behind the hill and was totally jammed up with the Unions Supply Wagons getting out of Gettysburg from the first days fighting.
@dennismartin5821
@dennismartin5821 5 жыл бұрын
Lee couldn't afford the loss of Jackson. Hell Lee couldn't afford shoes.
@truthteller9154
@truthteller9154 4 жыл бұрын
@@jbillz8515 Didn't help that Longstreet waited all day to order the attack either. In reality the attack didn't start until dusk, not morning or afternoon like the movie portrays it to be. Had Longstreet ordered the attack as mentioned in this video sometime in the morning or early afternoon they would of beaten the Federals to Little Round Top and occupied it.
@jacksons1010
@jacksons1010 4 жыл бұрын
Truthteller91 Longstreet’s men saw that the Union had an observation post on Little Round Top. Had he moved to attack sooner they would have easily seen him coming. Too many armchair generals play “what if” as if you could change actions on one side with no reaction from the other. If Hood and McLaws maneuvered in plain view then Meade would have moved troops in response and might well have better defended Little Round Top than actually happened. Longstreet’s near success attacking on the right was because his maneuver was largely unseen and few Union troops were in position.
@patipateeke
@patipateeke 6 жыл бұрын
00:56 "i combed my beard all night long"
@jeanbaptistevallee4500
@jeanbaptistevallee4500 5 жыл бұрын
Boys, lets head to them shining mountains. Beavers not prime,but it`s free!
@anathardayaldar
@anathardayaldar 2 жыл бұрын
Much has been said about Longstreet's idea to flank to the right. Yet no game I have found makes that option. The maps end too abruptly to the south. Some even stop right at the bottom of the roundtops. Does such a game exist that will allow us to try that strategy?
@KevinBalch-dt8ot
@KevinBalch-dt8ot Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to get a period map and extend the Avalon Hill Gettysburg map board and try it out. When I hear wargamers discussions of Operation Barbarossa, I ask if any have ever tried the Viktor Suvorov “Icebreaker” thesis where the Soviets attack the Germans. As far as I know, none have. Seems like a lot of wargamers just like to collect the games.
@TheJMBon
@TheJMBon 4 жыл бұрын
Lee's ego was his own undoing. He thought he was invincible due to his string of victories.
@ElBandito
@ElBandito 4 жыл бұрын
He also thought morale was enough to shrug off bullets.
@maggiesmith856
@maggiesmith856 11 ай бұрын
The Greeks had a word for it : hubris.
@13thvarebel16
@13thvarebel16 6 жыл бұрын
The most authentic aspect of Martin Sheen's portrayal of Robert E. Lee...was the hat.
@DKetch1966
@DKetch1966 14 жыл бұрын
@Shafeone - Excellent point
@craiglarge5925
@craiglarge5925 3 жыл бұрын
The one short coming of this movie, it does not cover General Stuarts part of General Lees' July 3rd attack on the Federal Army at Gettysburg. I believe General Stuart and his calvary were to move around and then come up from behind the Federal Army while the C> S. A. Corp under General Longsteet would mount a combined artillery and infantry attack on the center of the Federal Army's defensive positions at Cemetery Ridge.General Stuarts' part of the confederate army's plan that day was thwarted by a large Federal army calvary force.Had that part of the plan succeeded, then Pickets charge might have turned out differently. Oh well.
@gruntforever7437
@gruntforever7437 Күн бұрын
stuart would have never been able to get there in time. Even if he had not been stoppped by the US Cavalry who was waiting and watching for him
@robertnash8094
@robertnash8094 4 жыл бұрын
''General Barksdale is Mississippi ready for this day''
@glennwatson3313
@glennwatson3313 5 жыл бұрын
Lee let his ego take over and the men suffered for it.
@dennismartin5821
@dennismartin5821 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir, Lee had a major default in judgement. I believe, that he discovered the true nature of, what the war was really about, and who was ultimately going to profit from it. I.E. the Catholic Church.
@bcask61
@bcask61 2 жыл бұрын
Not ego, desperation. Lee knew he needed to end the war in 1863. If the war went on longer, the South had no chance, they were running out of everything including men. It may have been unrealistic, but it was his only chance and a slim one at best.
@valkahaddock8580
@valkahaddock8580 3 жыл бұрын
When General Lee says "Demonstrate", what he means is to make a lot of noise with the Canons. Test shots. do you understand what I mean?
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 Күн бұрын
I don’t know why, maybe it’s because everyone involved is so passionate and committed to delivering 120%, but even non-actors like Barksdale and so many others knew this was a special occasion
@richardbishop8666
@richardbishop8666 4 жыл бұрын
Lee understood the risk but he also realized how much of a reward it would be to defeat the Union army in Pennsylvania. If they had force a Yankee retreat as they had done so many times before and continued to move north the whole aspect of the war would have changed. It would have been far greater than any victory the south achieved in the war
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 3 жыл бұрын
Don't think so. By the end of the second day, even if they'd won, they were too beat up to do much more than "withdraw" back to Virginia anyway. Union intelligence had determined at the end of day 2 that the only units that hadn't been involved were those of Pickett's Brigade. The AoP would have the laurels of another victory, but with no elections in 1863, let's assume the same results in the West and Grant coming east, I'm doubtful it would've changed much.
@johndavidlayton779
@johndavidlayton779 3 жыл бұрын
Antetim and Gettysburg both offensive failures. Lee could not project power north. He’s vastly overrated
@DB-er-Handle2019
@DB-er-Handle2019 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the plan was defeat the Army of the Potomic and march on washington. That was the goal of the invasion of the north.
@colerainfan1143
@colerainfan1143 6 жыл бұрын
The Confederates lost many valuable generals this day, that would never be replaced. Barksdale was killed leading this charge, and Hood seriously wounded, was never the same.
@randomtraveler9854
@randomtraveler9854 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the North lost General Reynolds the day before and almost lost Hancock the following day. A total of nine generals died in the three days of fighting.
@robertkrause4861
@robertkrause4861 4 жыл бұрын
Somebody said that if the rebel army had defeated the federal army at Gettysburg they would still have had a hard time defeating federal forces guarding DC. This might not have been necessarily so since most of the DC defenses were to the south of the city.(towards Richmond) In this scenario it could have ended up like when the Japanese army took Singapore from the landward side in early 1942. All of Singapore’s defenses were seaward facing south!!
@spencerl7826
@spencerl7826 2 жыл бұрын
Pete Longstreet, what a name!
@IamMJC243
@IamMJC243 5 жыл бұрын
such a great movie
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Even if Lee won at Gettysburg & headed for Philadelphia or Washington; Vicksburg was about to fall. There would of been no peace.
@anglishbookcraft1516
@anglishbookcraft1516 3 жыл бұрын
This is likely true. Perhaps this may have goaded talks of a truce of some shape. The likelihood of all this working out for the confederacy was maybe 30%.
@calguy3838
@calguy3838 3 жыл бұрын
And Lee would have needed to do more than just win. He would have needed to do something he never accomplished in any of his other battles----destroy the Army of the Potomac
@EnemyAce88
@EnemyAce88 2 жыл бұрын
Harrisburg was his real target. It's only about 35 miles north of Gettysburg. Capturing the capital city of Pennsylvania would have been a huge victory.
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 6 жыл бұрын
1:37 Lee, you had every reason to move south now. The enemy army is to your north. The enemy capital is to your south. HOME is to your south. The enemy can set up all they want up north....but it will be meaningless for them if you pull out now. Longstreet was right....you should have listened to him...eule's decisions were influenced by his unfortunate string of defeats, and scars of excessive caution.
@junkjunk81
@junkjunk81 4 жыл бұрын
The enemy army was not to the North. The federal army was to the South and East of the confederates. Lee would gave to disengage and then go around the federals. That would be very difficult, especially without Stuart. And it might invite disaster if Meade detected the movement and decided to strike while Lee was maneuvering.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Жыл бұрын
@@junkjunk81 The Confederates were afraid of being cut off from their own territory. Had Meade been able to intercept them after the battle when they retreated to the south, their defeat could have been turned into a total disaster. But Meade did not move that fast.
@colinm8200
@colinm8200 3 жыл бұрын
Lees biggest mistake was not listening to Longstreet. They should have moved around and just march on washington. Cause that Union position was basically impossible to beat.
@timetraveltheory4900
@timetraveltheory4900 4 жыл бұрын
Lee should not have listened to the opinion of General Ewell after he failed to take Culps hill on day 1 with little opposition.
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