Gilles Deleuze: Ressentiment, Bad Conscience & Becoming-Active (Nietzsche & Philosophy, Part 2 of 2)

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essentialsalts

4 ай бұрын

In this second part of our exploration of Deleuze, we go straight into the Deleuzian understanding of ressentiment, and the significance of Nietzsche's distinction between ressentiment and the bad conscience. Deleuze's interpretation is predominantly psychological/physiological, and he sees the origins of ressentiment in the "inverted image" produced by reactive forces. Ressentiment therefore does not emerge from a historical power relationship, but from the disruption, degeneration or failures of the active force of memory to regulate the reactive consciousness and unconsciousness. Deleuze describes four forms of nihilism in Nietzsche: negative, reactive, passive and active, and we'll examine how they progress and relate to one another. Towards the end of the talk, we'll consider the camel, lion and child but with fresh eyes, given all that Deleuze has established. Of chief concern is how the triumph of reactive forces can be reversed, and the great becoming-reactive that characterizes human history turned into a becoming-active. This episode will not make much sense unless you've listened to the first part, in episode #79, as the concepts contained here depend on an understanding of active and reactive, sense and value, genealogy, and differential metaphysics, all of which are covered in that episode.

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@gingerbreadzak
@gingerbreadzak 4 ай бұрын
00:00 🧠 Nietzsche viewed forgetting as an active and positive force, essential for the existence of consciousness and self-awareness. 01:50 🤔 Sigmund Freud's theory of the psyche introduced the concept of the unconscious, which consists of forces beyond our conscious awareness and motivates many of our behaviors. 03:40 🔄 Freud's idea that memories are inherently unconscious doesn't contradict Nietzsche's view that consciousness relies on forgetfulness. 06:12 💭 Nietzsche distinguishes between different kinds of unconsciousness, including physiological impulses and suppressed past experiences. 09:39 🧘‍♂ In a healthy state, reactive forces limit action, but they also facilitate quick and precise adjustments when necessary. 12:22 😡 Ressentiment (resentment) is a state of inaction and feeling, characterized by a predominance of memory traces invading consciousness. 15:10 🤯 Forgetfulness is a crucial aspect of action, as it clears the path for the present moment by suppressing excessive past memories. 16:47 🥊 Reactive forces prevail over active forces when traces replace excitation in the reactive apparatus, resulting in a state of inaction. 21:25 💔 The man of resentment lives in a state of continuous reaction without discharge, leading to a spirit of revenge, even without extreme past trauma. 23:10 🤯 Ressentiment is primarily about the separation of the power of forgetting from its ability to act, causing discomfort and blaming external objects. 23:38 🧠 Ressentiment, according to Deleuze, is not a result of external circumstances but a qualitative difference in how a reactive person engages with the world. 25:25 🔄 Ressentiment is not about the ends or intentions but the means by which revenge is affected. It describes how slaves triumph but remain slaves in their consciousness. 27:54 💔 The person of ressentiment is unable to love or admire, instead desiring to be cared for and nurtured. 29:28 👥 In the master morality, what is good comes from their own perspective, while in slave morality, the evaluation is reversed, focusing on the badness of the other. 33:47 🕊 The active force is separated from what it can do, creating a fictitious neutral substrate between desire and action, which is the ego consciousness. 39:09 💡 The bad conscience arises when instincts that do not discharge themselves outwardly turn inward, leading to the internalization of man. 41:13 ⚙ The emasculation of the active occurs when the active force is separated from what it can do, leading to self-flagellation and self-mortification. 44:46 🤯 The creation of sin, as a consequence of the bad conscience, transforms suffering from a neutral fault of existence into a moral fault. 47:20 🧠 Nietzsche's concept of ressentiment and bad conscience is explored, emphasizing the feeling of eternal indebtedness and guilt towards God. 48:32 🏛 Punishment's meaning in society is complex and multifaceted, making it difficult to infer its purpose solely from historical origins. 49:29 🛡 Harsh punishments in early civilizations may have hindered the development of moral guilt, rather than fostering it. 50:09 🏛 The sense of debt in past societies aimed to control reactive forces within individuals, leading to the creation of a "supramoral" person rather than a morally responsible one. 51:03 🧠 Culture, as a selective species activity, ultimately produces individuals who are morally irresponsible but possess power over themselves. 52:23 🌍 History is a story of resentment and bad conscience, leading to the formation of reactive societies that seek to preserve themselves. 53:52 🚶‍♂ The last man, representing passive nihilism, is the culmination of human history's divergence into reactivity, characterized by a lack of goals and contentment in existence. 55:29 🔄 The transition from negative nihilism to reactive nihilism to passive nihilism is the essence of human history, driven by the struggle between reactive forces and the will to nothingness. 56:32 💔 Negative nihilism represents the will to nothingness and negates the world, while reactive nihilism devalues even higher values themselves. 58:12 🌍 Christianity embodies negative nihilism, aiming to teach the art of dying, while Buddhism represents passive nihilism, seeking freedom from suffering. 01:04:46 🤷‍♂ The recurrence of the slave revolt in morality throughout history signifies the constant struggle between strength and weakness, leading to the undermining of active individuals. 01:09:21 🔀 Human history is marked by the repetition of reactive forces overthrowing active societies, and the dialectical interpretation of history misunderstands this process. 01:10:55 🔄 Reactive forces can lead to failure, lacking a will for affirmative activity. 01:12:15 🔄 Deleuze explores how to transform reactive species into active ones, reversing passivity. 01:12:58 🔄 Nihilism can be a preliminary stage, leading to the transmutation of the passive into the active. 01:15:16 🔄 Destruction becomes active when the negative is transmuted into affirmative power. 01:16:11 🔄 Zarathustra calls for individuals to become forerunners and ancestors of the Overman, willing to perish for their goal. 01:18:17 🔄 Eternal return signifies the reproduction of becoming and the production of becoming active. 01:19:25 🔄 Overman marries the will to nothingness with active forces, using the negative to affirm life. 01:20:21 🔄 Deleuze contrasts passive affirmation with the child-like, joyful affirmation, free of reactive forces. 01:29:13 🔄 The self-forgetting child represents the ultimate symbol of affirmative, post-moral existence in Nietzsche's philosophy. 01:31:00 🔄 Nietzsche's practical teaching is that multiplicity, becoming, and chance are objects of joy and affirmation. Deleuze complements Nietzsche's ideas with a systematic approach.
@EdT.-xt6yv
@EdT.-xt6yv Ай бұрын
To digest and integrate into our mechanic RHIZONE
@saubhagtrasy
@saubhagtrasy 22 күн бұрын
😅
@dionysian222
@dionysian222 4 ай бұрын
One of the best contributions one can make to one’s life is to forget.
@williammcelmurray8059
@williammcelmurray8059 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@jdjones4825
@jdjones4825 4 ай бұрын
Ironically I heard and adopted a saying that cought my ear not to long ago..it is ; "I might forget but I never forgive" 😂
@mixedmattaphors
@mixedmattaphors 4 ай бұрын
So one can continue to get taken advantage of, with a Smile.
@Dolcelux5
@Dolcelux5 4 ай бұрын
I am seeking forgetfulness right now, I forget the NOW is the pathway. I appreciate this series for I feel this is where the lesson lies. The now is the only medicine.
@iulianariton9796
@iulianariton9796 4 ай бұрын
Wrong!
@HUMShaBaK
@HUMShaBaK 4 ай бұрын
This is one of the best video i ever got on this topic... Man u r doing such a great job for humanity and truth. Thank u.
@PoundianAesthete
@PoundianAesthete 4 ай бұрын
would be incredibly helpful to hear you break down Heidegger sometime
@Bilboswaggins2077
@Bilboswaggins2077 4 ай бұрын
Do you think you’ll ever cover difference and repetition at some point or is that too off topic?
@davitchaganava9622
@davitchaganava9622 4 ай бұрын
thank you for this channel in these times of well... thank you!
@juliancosta7626
@juliancosta7626 Ай бұрын
So amazing
@dragushcobaj4121
@dragushcobaj4121 4 ай бұрын
I hadn’t noticed this until now but a greater degree of forgetfulness accompanied any improvement of my felt experience. Not a coincidence I suppose.
@onniram
@onniram 4 ай бұрын
Love these videos
@RupturedGrid
@RupturedGrid 4 ай бұрын
best Nietzsche vids on YT
@LMAO9751
@LMAO9751 4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@s.lazarus
@s.lazarus 4 ай бұрын
I loved this! I genuinely appreciate your commentaries and I find them very helpful as well, specially because I'm currently parsing between Nieztsche and Deleuze. I recommend you give Difference and Repetition a go, because it has many commentaries on Nietzsche, and the eternal return of the difference is much more elaborated. His references to Zarathustra and Dionysius are beautiful. Perhaps "Nomad Thought", which begins by commenting on Nieztsche. Also, A Thousand Plateaus. I would suggest the Rhizome intro, the Geology of Morals, Becoming-Animal, and the Treatise on Nomadology: the war-machine plateau. Would love to hear what you think about those!
@dionysian222
@dionysian222 4 ай бұрын
Happy new year Keegan! Could you please do a video on Saint Augustine’s guilt consciousness in connection to Nietzsche’s philosophy.
@dragushcobaj4121
@dragushcobaj4121 4 ай бұрын
This could be interesting as a smaller video!
@physics1518
@physics1518 4 ай бұрын
Can you add this to the playlist? I love listening and re-listening to your reviews. Having them on the playlist helps me find what I'm looking for quickly. Thanks for your work!
@mat7083
@mat7083 4 ай бұрын
Make your own playlist and add this video
@physics1518
@physics1518 4 ай бұрын
@@mat7083 Yeah, except that there are 106 videos! If I could just copy a pre-existing list, it'd be trivial. Anyhow, essentialsalts already added it. @essentialsalts Thanks man!
@mat7083
@mat7083 4 ай бұрын
@@physics1518 Boy, you should see my playlist lol
@loyiso9136
@loyiso9136 3 ай бұрын
This was good. You clarified some of the parts I failed to understand. If I had my way, I'd love for you to cover all of deleuze's works and turn this to the Deleuze podcast. If I had one choice I'd like you to cover 'Difference and Repetition'.
@Foolosophoria
@Foolosophoria 5 күн бұрын
What a fantastic breakdown! It has helped me so much😭! I would love for you to talk about Difference and Repetition by Deleuze! - Just my suggestion :^) Thank you, and I would be really interested in your take on Deleuze's take on Nietzsche (Reaction videos are the peak of civilization! -- Historical civilization at least haha) Cheers
@camildumitrescu3703
@camildumitrescu3703 4 ай бұрын
Yarvin and Burgis deserve each other. It just crossed my mind and I can't brush it off. Ouff!..
@F--B
@F--B 24 күн бұрын
Civilisation is the victory of 'reactive man'. What Nietzsche argues for, albeit perhaps not explicitly, is a return to a pre-civilised way of life.
@ummon995
@ummon995 3 ай бұрын
Nietzsche through Deleuze, dynamite transmuted into raw atomic force. If after listening to both episodes you’re not tempted to attempt to live more vigorously, to do nothing but blink afterwards, then I’m afraid you’re a terminal case. Possible future podcasts regarding Deleuze? His thoughts regarding art and philosophy to be compared/contrasted with Nietzsche’s with works like “What is Philosophy” and parts of “A Thousand Plateaus”. It would be refreshing to reclaim Deleuze from the hyper politicized “critical” theory jargonauts and place him back into the philosophical canon. A necessary task for perhaps a talented podcaster to take up?
@vikramchatterjee4495
@vikramchatterjee4495 4 ай бұрын
why did I feel the need to come back a day after watching these to tortle (text-chortle) about how Deleuze is too French for essentialsalts? Too funny
@hn6187
@hn6187 3 ай бұрын
Deleuze painted Nietzsche with alchemy, from a large palette of disciplines so we can see an picture of what Nietzsche meant, in a language game form, prose we can use to play towards Nobility.
@ggrthemostgodless8713
@ggrthemostgodless8713 4 ай бұрын
It is not too clear to me that WE who speak of consciousness and egos and subconscious, it is not all too clear to me that we are of the higher humans beings, I FEEL it but I don't see why this should be the case, it seems to me a bit of a burden and more permanent difficult life... the so called lower levels' dreary or harness of life, who never deal with this issues ends when they stop laboring, but we take these issues with us no matter where we go or which gathering or party sitcom we happen to be. So how is this a higher existence.??
@JMoore-vo7ii
@JMoore-vo7ii 4 ай бұрын
do you know of Bloodborne? there is a great lesson in that game's story that while one might shed the things that make them human in an attempt at gaining understanding/insight, what one ascends to is not very clear and is likely the cause of great suffering. Tread lightly
@ggrthemostgodless8713
@ggrthemostgodless8713 4 ай бұрын
@@JMoore-vo7ii I do thread lightly, and I am tired of it, many less aware people go on daily without a care in the world; though the "burden" of higher self awareness or higher consciousness has no reverse, no going back... once you get it, like once you learn something important in life, it is with you all along for the ride. There is, of all people, a futuristic Sylvester Stallone movie where people are in this super advanced civilization and they are all lost or depressed and some guy is taking to a computer therapist and is repeating his daily affirmations, Sandra Bullock is in it too, and maybe Wesley Snipes also... I guess the issues become "purpose" or direction, what is life FOR, and that sort of thing, though reading this I see how you might think I am lost or depressed, I am not, I am just wondering about these issues... I got plenty of goals and "purposes". But the wondering is bc once you achieve a certain level where daily issues of shelter and food etc are well covered for the rest of your life, it seems, then you got a LOT of time, and have to decide where and on what to spend that time. It is telling that it is the so called "educated" or intellectual people or class that deal with this, so called "workers" are just fine with NASCAR football and beer, and as I do not drink or like football (Thanks Nietzsche for that), then conversations are hard in gathering as that is what most talk about, I don't know the names of famous athletes or anything. So you would say find other groups of people, and I did, but the intellectuals attitudes and obnoxiousness were insufferable, I went back to people who have a hard time making ends meet, food scarcity, and always need money!! So here I am, on the net listening to these videos. jeez!! 🤷‍♂😅
@JMoore-vo7ii
@JMoore-vo7ii 4 ай бұрын
@@ggrthemostgodless8713 i can see why you might enjoy Nietzsche Glad to be an ear. I can't say much more than that. Are you grateful? Are you driven? Does anything exist at all in this uncertain world? You probably have as good an idea as anyone else; intellectually or otherwise. Maybe you can find out or die trying 👍
@ggrthemostgodless8713
@ggrthemostgodless8713 4 ай бұрын
@@JMoore-vo7ii Grateful? yes... Driven? I would have to nuance that, thus: I was "driven" to make a life where all my basic things were taken cared of, Nietzsche says that a lot of morality is based on NEEDS or geographical necessity or circumstances, thus if you alimanate that NEED for basic labor lie gong to work at a factory or having to BE THERE forcefully out of necessity, etc, you have all that time and energy now free to do WHAT EXACTLY?? and that is the wall I found myself dealing with, I was driven to achieve, but also to learn, and as you learn, I found that most things I was interested in, Nietzsche had anticipated it by a mile, and hen some!! The Las Man, the Will to Power, The end of god or religious beliefs, and what comes after what authority what purpose, and all purpose becomes imaginary or subjective at best, one's own purpose, which as I mentioned I have plenty, but I am not delusional as to thing that THOSE are THE purposes of life itself, etc... what to do if you are in this place?? I still do not know, I achieve but mostly I decide and after a certain level the things you own or money you own do all (most?) the work for you. I keep a low level, minimalistic, life, on all fronts. This too was anticipated by Nietzsche. The writing I was planning on doing, they would not be better than Nietzsche's, so why write anything that is going to be worse than what already exists?? that sort of thing. I get up, driven to check on what the investments have done, but not "driven" to do much if they do not, since time will correct whatever has happened in any one day. And that brings me to "purpose", what purpose should one fight for, there are no more real fights once you have all you need. My gf asked me what I WANTED for Christmas or New Years, I said NOTHING, bc I already have all I want or need. I know they sounds depressing but I am not depressed, I am really grateful since I am aware how unusual this is, and these are not real problems at all, I do enjoy life, but that damn PURPOSE, that is what I need, bc I remember back some three decades ago I had nothing really and I got up trying ike everyones else to create wealth and acquire things, now I got rid of most things and the "wealth" is more than enough for me to be ok seemingly for LIFE, and just messing it all up to have something to worry about and HAVE TO get up and try harder seems like a stupid thing to do. I already do SOME good by sponsoring some kids that I chose bc they seem to have potential and brains, not out of pity, but I see actual potential. I got great health, but what should I risk it for?? again, what purpose is it worth risking for?? And so on and so forth, the so called examined life I guess... The carnal pleasures one gets from having several women are old news too, it is indeed vain to pursue it, but when you got enough time in a day you give it a try and see, and all the things the wise men have said about it is true, not really worth it... All the gods and idols, I too have touched with a tuning fork, and most have fallen, and I remain godless, happier than before with false gods but still godless, a thing I also learned from Nietzsche, and not feeling the needs to add idols or gods just to have someone or something to look up to, it is indeed a weird place or state to be in all the time, a kind of contentment but somehow unsettling to the idea of being, not really a Last Man but more like Aristotle who said he walked among men like (in a forest?) walking among trees. ... Thus Zarathustra comes to mind, should I go out up the mountain and think?? Would I get more insights than now?? is it a literal mountain or can it be one I climb here at home alone, same thing if being alone (NOTTTTT lonely by a mile) is the goal... marriage for its own sake is odious to me also, a way of NOT facing yourself in many ways... Have a great 2024... and keep learning. Hopefully all this learning leads to some action. Thanks for your ear.
@ggrthemostgodless8713
@ggrthemostgodless8713 4 ай бұрын
@@JMoore-vo7ii From Twilight Of The Idols: MORALITY AS THE ENEMY OF NATURE 1 There is a time when all passions are simply fatal in their action, when they wreck their victims with the weight of their folly,-and there is a later period, a very much later period, when they marry with the spirit, when they “spiritualise” themselves. Formerly, owing to the stupidity inherent in passion, men waged war against passion itself: men pledged themselves to annihilate it,-all ancient moral-mongers were unanimous on this point, “il faut tuer les passions.” The most famous formula for this stands in the New Testament, in that Sermon on the Mount, where, let it be said incidentally, things are by no means regarded from a height. It is said there, for instance, with an application to sexuality: “if thy eye offend thee, pluck it out”: fortunately no Christian acts in obedience to this precept. To annihilate the passions and desires, simply on account of their stupidity, and to obviate the unpleasant consequences of their stupidity, seems to us to-day merely an aggravated form of stupidity. We no longer admire those dentists who extract teeth simply in order that they may not ache again. On the other hand, it will be admitted with some reason, that on the soil from which Christianity grew, the idea of [Pg 27] the “spiritualisation of passion” could not possibly have been conceived. The early Church, as everyone knows, certainly did wage war against the “intelligent,” in favour of the “poor in spirit” In these circumstances how could the passions be combated intelligently? The Church combats passion by means of excision of all kinds: its practice, its “remedy,” is castration. It never inquires “how can a desire be spiritualised, beautified, deified?”-In all ages it has laid the weight of discipline in the process of extirpation (the extirpation of sensuality, pride, lust of dominion, lust of property, and revenge).-But to attack the passions at their roots, means attacking life itself at its source: the method of the Church is hostile to life. 2 The same means, castration and extirpation, are instinctively chosen for waging war against a passion, by those who are too weak of will, too degenerate, to impose some sort of moderation upon it; by those natures who, to speak in metaphor (-and without metaphor), need la Trappe, or some kind of ultimatum of war, a gulf set between themselves and a passion. Only degenerates find radical methods indispensable: weakness of will, or more strictly speaking, the inability not to react to a stimulus, is in itself simply another form of degeneracy. Radical and mortal hostility to sensuality, remains a suspicious symptom: it justifies one in being suspicious of the general state of one who goes to such extremes. Moreover, that hostility and hatred reach their height only when such natures no longer possess enough strength of character to adopt the [Pg 28] radical remedy, to renounce their inner “Satan.” Look at the whole history of the priests, the philosophers, and the artists as well: the most poisonous diatribes against the senses have not been said by the impotent, nor by the ascetics; but by those impossible ascetics, by those who found it necessary to be ascetics. 3 The spiritualisation of sensuality is called love: it is a great triumph over Christianity. Another triumph is our spiritualisation of hostility. It consists in the fact that we are beginning to realise very profoundly the value of having enemies: in short that with them we are forced to do and to conclude precisely the reverse of what we previously did and concluded. In all ages the Church wished to annihilate its enemies: we, the immoralists and Antichrists, see our advantage in the survival of the Church. Even in political life, hostility has now become more spiritual,-much more cautious, much more thoughtful, and much more moderate. Almost every party sees its self-preservative interests in preventing the Opposition from going to pieces; and the same applies to politics on a grand scale. A new creation, more particularly, like the new Empire, has more need of enemies than friends: only as a contrast does it begin to feel necessary, only as a contrast does it become necessary. And we behave in precisely the same way to the “inner enemy”: in this quarter too we have spiritualised enmity, in this quarter too we have understood its value. A man is productive only in so far as he is rich in contrasted instincts; he can remain young only on [Pg 29] condition that his soul does not begin to take things easy and to yearn for peace. Nothing has grown more alien to us than that old desire-the “peace of the soul,” which is the aim of Christianity. Nothing could make us less envious than the moral cow and the plump happiness of a clean conscience. The man who has renounced war has renounced a grand life. In many cases, of course, “peace of the soul” is merely a misunderstanding,-it is something very different which has failed to find a more honest name for itself. Without either circumlocution or prejudice I will suggest a few cases. “Peace of the soul” may for instance be the sweet effulgence of rich animality in the realm of morality (or religion). Or the first presage of weariness, the first shadow that evening, every kind of evening, is wont to cast. Or a sign that the air is moist, and that winds are blowing up from the south. Or unconscious gratitude for a good digestion (sometimes called “brotherly love”). Or the serenity of the convalescent, on whose lips all things have a new taste, and who bides his time. Or the condition which follows upon a thorough gratification of our strongest passion, the well-being of unaccustomed satiety. Or the senility of our will, of our desires, and of our vices. Or laziness, coaxed by vanity into togging itself out in a moral garb. Or the ending of a state of long suspense and of agonising uncertainty, by a state of certainty, of even terrible certainty. Or the expression of ripeness and mastery in the midst of a task, of a creative work, of a production, of a thing willed, the calm breathing that denotes that “freedom of will” has been attained. [Pg 30] Who knows?-maybe The Twilight of the Idols is only a sort of “peace of the soul.”
@michaelsteven1090
@michaelsteven1090 4 ай бұрын
More Schopenhauer please, much needed at this time.
@user-jr5vy2bg5q
@user-jr5vy2bg5q 4 ай бұрын
No
@ThanhTruc-jw6uo
@ThanhTruc-jw6uo 4 ай бұрын
Instead of that, why don't you just read him anyway?
@vikramchatterjee4495
@vikramchatterjee4495 Ай бұрын
Bro this is the Nietzsche podcast, not the Schopenhauer podcast
@michaelsteven1090
@michaelsteven1090 Ай бұрын
@@ThanhTruc-jw6uo I do..Why don't you just read Nietzche?
@michaelsteven1090
@michaelsteven1090 Ай бұрын
@@vikramchatterjee4495 He covers Schopenhauer..Were have you been?
@robnaugle4149
@robnaugle4149 4 ай бұрын
What people group of people in the world are marked by their lack of forgetfulness? Whose motto is "never again" and "never forget"? Hmm, I wonder.
@hermitage6439
@hermitage6439 4 ай бұрын
Suffice to say, we don't have much free will, if there are, the stores don't sell it fresh
@mat7083
@mat7083 4 ай бұрын
🚬
@mixedmattaphors
@mixedmattaphors 4 ай бұрын
Herein lies the switch: They say birds of prey have to be birds of prey, by design, and then silently have that as the context for people. But people aren't birds of prey, by definition. They can NOT do evil.
@mixedmattaphors
@mixedmattaphors 4 ай бұрын
And if the type of man who hurts the person with resentement is defined by hurting them, then that it is who is literally defined in their existence by harming, the so-called slave. And thus the slave not only has a point but it will always be harmful to the slave that these people exist.
@mixedmattaphors
@mixedmattaphors 4 ай бұрын
But I think to then equate those who are realistic about the evil of others' actions to ugliness and weakness is Bullshit. They are often, to me, the strong people, because they resist the tide of evil that others ignore is even possible to resist. And, by the way, they are usually the better-looking people, and are destroyed by Today's slavery Society. Look at Nietzsche. Not a good-looking Guy.
@mixedmattaphors
@mixedmattaphors 4 ай бұрын
I mean, boy, if the slaves are the ones who are angry about what others did to them, I wonder how free are those who get bullied by Nietzsche into liking their oppressors. Fuck Them.
@blackfeatherstill348
@blackfeatherstill348 4 ай бұрын
But they can do what people do. Prey upon each other.
@robertb1138
@robertb1138 4 ай бұрын
Cover A Thousand Plateaus, in depth?
@s.lazarus
@s.lazarus 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps not in depth because it would be a long detour from Nietzsche, given the theme of the podcasts? But certainly some very important chapters that can be connected to the German's philosophy.
@joyusachoobarb
@joyusachoobarb 4 ай бұрын
I feel like you did part two at 2x speed…
@joyusachoobarb
@joyusachoobarb 4 ай бұрын
(but nonetheless fantastic)
@sebastiansperception
@sebastiansperception 4 ай бұрын
Resentment, in English is the same at all stances. RE-SENT... "Sent" is "to feel".. so, there is no difference with the French word.
@socialswine3656
@socialswine3656 Ай бұрын
Nietzsche didn't write in English?
@sebastiansperception
@sebastiansperception Ай бұрын
@@socialswine3656 I guess that's just a joke
@alexanderleuchte5132
@alexanderleuchte5132 4 ай бұрын
French Postmodernists always remind me off the way german "68er" student leader Rudi Dutschke spoke, endless pompous word salad. There is a very sophisticated way of speaking the german language i actually miss of which it is a distorted version, but that is precise and not overloaded. The conversation between Elias Canetti and Theodor Adorno, a big influence of the "68er" generation, is a great example for this. While Canetti is a pleasure to listen to Adornos ramblings are just mindnumbing, i guess i just can't relate to the spirit of that time
@VisiblyJacked
@VisiblyJacked 4 ай бұрын
Mind-numbing is the right word. They get you to use your mental bandwidth parsing the weird syntax and vocabulary, so you are disarmed when it comes to the content. And then there is the attitude that being forthright and clear shows you are not part of the club.
@chasesaladino6669
@chasesaladino6669 4 ай бұрын
@@VisiblyJacked You're assuming a simple dichotomy of ("weird") form and content. And this content is apparently something one should use one's "mental bandwidth" to be armed against. Seems like a pretty reactive way to approach a text. And why are we assuming the value of "being forthright and clear," especially when it comes to philosophy, whose "content" isn't something that can be demarcated in a forthright and clear manner. The criterion of commonsense clarity can only appeal to simple platitudes in terms of already established generalities of common knowledge, according to already established values. That works for practical communication of work duties (e.g. 'pass the hammer' or 'open the door'), but what makes you think that something like 'reality' is easily communicable content? Perhaps reality is weird and complex, thus some kind of experimentation with syntax and vocabulary might be preferable for philosophy.
@VisiblyJacked
@VisiblyJacked 4 ай бұрын
@@chasesaladino6669 Nicely done! You do need a few more Latinate words though. Remember, Anglo-Saxon derived vocabulary is the enemy of the high-status verbiage you seek.
@litcrit6704
@litcrit6704 4 ай бұрын
In the age of AI technocrats, we need more gibberish and absurdist prose. Nietzsche always believed in the value of erring, to falter, to miss. In an era of being "morally" and "ideologically" correct, precise or "clear", we need more gibberish and the ravings of lunatics than ever.
@alexanderleuchte5132
@alexanderleuchte5132 4 ай бұрын
@@litcrit6704 I highly recommed the documentary "The Net" by Lutz Dammbeck, there are so many threads coming together, from Adorno, the beginnings of Cybernetics and the Internet. Jeffrey E., the Unabomber to the rising Technocracy and the liberal vision of a new global humanity behind it. Sadly for English speakers it comes with subs only but is availible here on YT
@allurbase
@allurbase 4 ай бұрын
Wouldn't call oneself nietzschean be reactive in itself?
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