Giving Into The Ghost : 2020 Seiko Alpinist Review SPB119J1 / SBDC089 ProspeX

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-----Ghost Alpinist (SPB119J1)
Seiko for Reference: www.seikowatches.com/global-e...
Gnomon: bit.ly/2QoYx7h
On Amazon: geni.us/K0vSM
Ebay: ebay.to/3b1zmQa
No recommended store to buy one from right now, just shop around and see. Although at this price point might be worth it to buy from an Authorized Dealer as well. So check Long Island for when they get some in stock.
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-----SARB017
Check for lower prices now. The one I saw was on Amazon.
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-----To see pics of the Alpinist including the bezel Alignment:
www.relative-time.com/giving-i...
Alignment at the very bottom.
-----Straps Shown:
Ritche Black/Red Leather Nylon (on Amazon): geni.us/TYQz0Z
Ritche Black/Grey Leather Nylon (on Amazon): geni.us/S4gp
Ritche Brown/Grey Leather Nylon (on Amazon): geni.us/LsNQZ
Vario Leather / Black Cordura: vario.sg/collections/2-piece-...
Barton Blue Sailcloth (on Amazon): geni.us/QMfzSI4
Green leather (on Amazon): geni.us/SN6nfGT
Black Mora Nato: www.morastraps.com/
Green Nato:
Brown Saber leather:
Uncle Seiko:
Beads of Rice Bracelet: www.uncleseiko.com/store/p233...
Pretty nice bracelet. Looks great & Good milled clasp, but folded end links
President Bracelet:
www.uncleseiko.com/store/p232...
Not as good as the Beads of Rice bracelet. Finish not quite as good, and a stamped clasp. Also folded end-links.
-----Other Watches Shown:
Orient Star Explorer (ExplOrient): • Rise of the ExplOrient...
Hamilton Khaki King: • It's Good to Be the Ki...
Nodus Duality: Coming Soon
Dan Henry 1970: Coming Soon
Akura Wayfarer: • Relative Time's Top Te...
Today we are finally taking a closer look at the brand new 2020 Seiko Cream Alpinist. SBDC089 / SPB119J1 . Which I'm calling the Ghost Alpinist. It along with The Black SBDC087 / SPB117J1, the green SBDC091 / SPB121J1 , and the cream and gilt SBDC093 / SPB123J1 are the four new versions for this year. Which are all part of the ProSpec Seiko lineup.
Overall they are very similar to the previous Alpinist the SARB017. With the only major difference being the new 6R35 movement. Which supposedly brings the power reserve to 70 hours, but I also put that to the test.
Note: Some of the links above are affiliate links, I am an Amazon, Armilla, Aliexpress, Spinnaker, eBay and Phoibos affiliate so I would earn a small commission on qualified purchases. But most of the time Amazon is just the best source to link something just to get a look. I always encourage you to shop around and find the best price.
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@mashedpotato982 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely loved the review. The way any review should be done. From multiple angles, to various strap etc. Hats off.

@williamj3459 4 жыл бұрын

Once again, the best watch reviews available, bar none. The different looks with the strap changes and the hyper production value are unmatched. Keep them coming, please!!!

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@nasiruddin-pj8jt 4 жыл бұрын

I was wonder relative time channel is one the best watch review channel on KZfaq he is not biased he is always telling the truth showing you the good bad and ugly but sadly he only got only 16k subscribers ? he deserves at least million subscribers

@lowersaxon 4 жыл бұрын

nasir uddin Agreed!

@StarlancerAstro 4 жыл бұрын

Well add one more, great channel

@Mattw1987 4 жыл бұрын

Your reviews are some of the best on KZfaq, surprised you don't have more subscribers with your analytical quality content.

@MrSamael82 3 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%

@AP_Thailand 3 жыл бұрын

Most comprehensive and detailed review, thank you.

@Xsiderr 4 жыл бұрын

Owned the SARB017 for just over a year now - tremendous value for money and personally I just love my green-gold version. Great to see Seiko bring out all these new options. Great review as always!

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! You ever get a strapcode bracelet for it?

@eliotsalandybrown 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for this calm, informed, insightful and well shot video 👍

@jasons6344 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent review. The Alpinist is on my bucket list of watches. The particular dial you have does really go well with many strap choices.

@MaleGolfer 4 жыл бұрын

This is an excellent, measured and detailed review. I particularly appreciated your discussion regarding the alignment issues with the compass. I originally was put off with this watch because of that problem, but your reasonable discussion has put it in a new perspective for me. I am definitely going to consider the ivory watch with the gold indices. Thanks for the wonderful and thoughtful insight. I just subscribed.

@cheesaikee8957 3 жыл бұрын

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@davidbarclay3651 3 жыл бұрын

I have an 017 and it's perfectly aligned. Your investigation was helpful as was you review. I too love this "Ghost" Alpinist. I also have the 035 so I completely understand the versatility. IMO your review shows how this is the perfect every day watch, timing bezel and date included. Thank you.

@zalsentzer 4 жыл бұрын

One of the most handsome field watches on the market, at any price. Great video, thanks for sharing!

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

It really is.

@donfoley1590 4 жыл бұрын

I'm buying this because it has a cyclops.

@Krasnopyourov 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not buying this because it has a cyclops.

@Seffsqautch 3 жыл бұрын

I’m not buying it because I am a cyclops 👁 also because I’ve already bought the Baby Alpinist.

@adecentgamer3154 3 жыл бұрын

@@Krasnopyourov actually me bro I preordered a spb243 instead, worth the wait ngl

@chrislang4858 Жыл бұрын

The real OG SCVC009 Green Red Alpinist had a cyclops, its a close reissue of it and the sarb017 in my opinion

@jonasthemovie Жыл бұрын

I bought the SPB117J1 despite the cyclops.

@matthewwinters1297 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this review. I was toying with buying the new green alpinist. Now with your review I think the precious version is my best bet. Wonderful review.

@RelativeTime 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you found it useful. 👍

@kallehakkanen2189 4 жыл бұрын

Once again, a well-thought-out review with solid points. Huge thanks for taking the time to research and review the bracelets! I’m looking forward to that video. I’m hoping for close attention to detail: endlinks and how they fit, links, screws, clasps, finishing, durability, solidity, feel, weight, looks, value, all of it :) It’s amazing how there is almost no information or reviews about aftermarket bracelets, even though they sell a lot. As you said, even the sellers themselves don’t know if their bracelets will fit a watch! If I was selling them, I think I would do my homework better. Another example of this problem is the Hamilton Khaki King; there are rumors online that the bracelet of the black dial version won’t fit the cream dial version. I’ve tried to find out about it, but even contacting Hamilton themselves didn’d clarify the matter - they just said it ”should fit”, but they weren’t sure. I have the cream dial version just like you do, and would really like to buy the stock bracelet for it, but ”should fit” is just an unacceptable official answer for a bracelet which costs about 160 euros alone. Anyway, thanks again for a good job! Your channel and Just One More Watch are two of my favourite watch channels. It really shows you put a lot of time, thought and effort into these.

@markashton6853 2 жыл бұрын

Best review I've seen of this watch. I"ve owned this watch for about a year and it really has grown on me. Very nice watch. Would have preferred Alpinist closed case-back, and retro style Alpinist script on the face though. Would recommend this watch nonetheless.

@callmejag 4 жыл бұрын

Great review. I have one myself, and I agree with all of the points you make. It's a bit steep on price, but I think it's well worth it once you have it in-hand. It's a beautiful piece that looks great with any strap. You can dress it up or down as needed. It's my everyday watch now. PLEASE PLEASE do a review of the bracelets and straps you recommend. I'm eager to get a bracelet for the thing, but need to hear more about how well things fit first. Keep up the good work.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'll definitely do the bracelet one, maybe in a few weeks. In the meantime I'll tell you I like the beads of rice. Fit is good, but not perfect. Bracelet is nice, and milled clasp is good. Only downside is folded end links. The President version seems like a little lower in quality. fit is the same, but stamped clasp that's not quite as good. Also folded end links. Strapcode bracelets will be nicer, but also a bit more too.

@m.l.679 3 жыл бұрын

Great review! Thank you. Subscribed! I got the SARB017 on STAIB 20 mm mesh. I just love the ''old world'', gold and green look of the watch. Nothing quite like it on the market :)

@adrienne4934 4 жыл бұрын

Very nice review! Thanks. I’ll wait for prices to go down.

@barmo3853 4 жыл бұрын

Thoroughly enjoyable video, I do like that cyclops and it's a tough call whether to wait for prices to drop

@davidbarclay3651 3 жыл бұрын

I ordered mine directly from Seiko US. 10% off was helpful in getting the price below the list 725. I have an 017 and I love it. Great video Shane.

@johnnywatches247 3 жыл бұрын

Just bought the black on bracelet. Looking forward to hearing about your other bracelet options.

@alfonsoandresriosrobalino9511 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, first time here. I love the review. Following this page right away.

@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Welcome to the channel.

@theguardian3431 4 жыл бұрын

Great review. Very comprehensive and objective.

@mrbacchus6127 4 жыл бұрын

"I looked at my other compressor style watches, I have seven" sorry but I had to laugh at that statement.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Did you see my SOTC? It's a little out of hand. 😜

@umutaydogdu1502 4 жыл бұрын

I am watching your video keeping my sarb017 green dial in my hand and saying yes mine is still the best, for ever!

@watchlang4319 4 жыл бұрын

Bro. You gave a good, clear and nice review on this new seiko.alpinist. Your voice matches with the video that gives a clear explanation on this review. The analysis is not too fast not too slow. Its just right to understand a review for alpinist. It also gave me a good idea on what to choose. Cheers bro👍.. Thanks

@johnkim4686 2 жыл бұрын

Dude your voice is so calming it's like ASMR

@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 4 жыл бұрын

Top quality video and review, as always.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@velocity_6t9 Ай бұрын

Great review it covers everything we need to know ❤❤thank you

@RelativeTime Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@DQ_Style 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, I have the previous green version and I love it. I have it on an oyster bracelet from Strapcode and it is a killer that pulls compliments all day! Subscribed

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I love that beads of rice bracelt, but I will have to get a strapcode.

@simplyseven007 3 жыл бұрын

Nice arc on the misalignment story. 👍 I’m glad I didn’t skip ahead.

@mikelgeymsige8987 4 жыл бұрын

Detailed and on point. Really good review.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jeditrek 3 жыл бұрын

Great review. Thanks a lot for showing.

@RelativeTime 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Glad you liked it.

@Made_in_the_Philippines 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome review! You have a way of bringing out the beauty of the watch. Ended up purchasing the black version for $600.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Black one looks great, let me know how you like the braclet. Where did you find it for $600?

@Made_in_the_Philippines 4 жыл бұрын

Relative Time, The bracelet is good quality, but it doesn’t quite fit my wrist... it’s either too loose or a bit too tight. Planning to get a Strapcode for it. Purchased through a Jewelry store out in New Jersey.

@3rdstone1 4 жыл бұрын

My favourite part in this review was your analyze of the compass misalignment. First off I've actually never seen any comments on this in other reviewers on the Alpinists (I might've missed out on that), and it's something you'd hope would be correct for the costs these are galloping up to now. BUT second, it was interesting to hear that other makers in your collection wasn't exactly perfect in that matter as well. Of course that's not a defense to Seiko QC issues, but it was an interesting turn. Keep up the good work!

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. On this one I think its a matter of reality vs expectations. At this price they should figure out how to have everything lined up. Yet since i haven't seen anyone else do it (at least not yet), it's hard for me to really come down on them for it. Originally that was the plan, and I was going to get footage from my other compressor style watches. Yet everyone I looked at was a little bit off.

@YouriLigotmi 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review! Honest and objective.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@mydailyburger3924 Жыл бұрын

Your voice is so beautiful! It's like music to my ears!

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@WardStroud 11 ай бұрын

Most watches that have cyclops…look like a cyclops, this watch has a dewdrop. I’ve actually had people ask me if I had a drop of rain on my watch! it’s elegant. It’s perfect and I love it.

@joseandrade8811 4 жыл бұрын

Another very good video review.

@DaxXx988 3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the instance it seems. I just got the black shark tooth version. My compass cardinals are perfect everywhere but at 6, where it is off by 1/5th of a secon marker. Not too bad, didnt notice until you pointed it out. Nice review, thanks! :)

@jarlandersen7272 2 жыл бұрын

Blown away by this review! I've been watching watch reviews for a long time and never come across your channel. Safe to say I have a new favorite. Keep ut the good work! I owned the green baby apinist for some time. Agree with you, my biggest gripe was the height of the watch. Wish they would eliminate the display caseback, nothing to see really. Kind of regret selling it, but this white dial looks tempting.

@RelativeTime 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's much appreciated! I've always considered myself to be a cult favorite among watch geeks. When people find my channel, they eventually stick around for a while. What do you think of the "new" retro Alpinists without the compass.

@jarlandersen7272 2 жыл бұрын

@@RelativeTime So I owned the green one, got a bargain and thought I would check it out. Lovely watch, but some complaints. -Some dust/grit on the dial face -Too tall for it's other dimentions -Somewhat top heavy on the bracelet -Only 2 microadjustments on the clasp left me caught between too loose an too tight -REALLY wish the lumed the printed arabics But overall, I'm just nitpicking really, great watch for the 450$ price I paid. Would probably not buy for retail price. Really thinking of getting your ghost Alpinist, as I belive the bigger diameter will help on the wearability with such a tall watch. Also I see Uncle Seiko now does solid endlinks for their BoR bracelet, and that looks gorgeous. Thanks for the reply! Have a nice weekend.

@watchalot919 2 жыл бұрын

Toying with buying one, but not sure if I can ever get used to the cyclops

@wpherigo1 4 жыл бұрын

You do some of the most interesting watch videography! Glad you’re having fun. Stay safe. I love the Alpinist, and the inner rotating bezel. But goodness, was that compass ever used by anyone for anything? It’s always struck me as a “let’s see what we can do” addition. Still cool though. Two thumbs up.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Could be useful in a worst case scenario as some sort of backup to help navigate, but that's about it. Personally I would love a GMT Alpanist as it's much easier to find a direction with a GMT hand.

@redbarchetta8782 Жыл бұрын

My bezel is off a tad, but I think it is due to the wobbling that can happen in the mechanism. I noticed that if you put the S on the top both N and S then line up, while N on top does not. That does suggest it's not the printing, but the way it changes positions slightly top to bottom.

@keithburnett-i7f 3 жыл бұрын

Great review , thank you Neil Sedaka👍

@JusttheWatch 4 жыл бұрын

I like the cyclops, at least from the video, I've never seen a real one up close. The bezel alignment is weird. I wonder if it's just more noticeable on a compass bezel than on other types of bezels. Those little lume pips lasted way longer than I expected. I think the black version on the bracelet is my favorite.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

That was one of my thoughts. A compass will divide a circle up by 360, where a timing bezel is 60. So maybe you notice the imprecision more.

@dr.killjoy29 4 жыл бұрын

I passed up the green gold version so many times because I couldn’t get over the colors. I’m glad I did. That blue one on the other hand will be mine before the end of the year.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

How much are they going for these days?

@kevincorkery6292 4 жыл бұрын

Being 60, I prefer the big date, cyclops.

@lowersaxon 4 жыл бұрын

Kevin Corkery Looking glasses ???

@kevincorkery6292 4 жыл бұрын

I always have them on me.

@Aikaramba12 3 жыл бұрын

@@lowersaxon i am 21, i also prefer the cyclops

@friscokid66 4 жыл бұрын

Man that is one handsome watch for any occasion. But when you got to the inner bezel not lining up---that was a major deal breaker for me. I hope Seiko will address this soon.

@b.satrya918 4 жыл бұрын

About the internal bezel play, I have never seen nor encountered anything like that with my Legend Diver and Polaris Memovox. Mind you, I’m quite observant when it comes to my watches. I tend to find myself unintentionally observing the dials of my watches more times than I’d like to admit on a daily basis. Regardless, it was always a pleasure when you lend your perspective on these watches. Great review, might pick this up even though I already have the original Alpinist in green and gold. 👍🏼

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I wonder if Longines & JLC are doing anything different from a build perspective, or if they are just much more observant in lining things up and weeding out the ones that don't.

@simonthomas5113 2 жыл бұрын

I'm new to watches, but the lack of screw down on the compass crown confused me too! I just thought it would need the same spec as the main crown to get the 200m rating.

@toonlad4091 4 жыл бұрын

It's my birthday today and my wife and son bought me the Ghost with a strap code super oyster bracelet, just fitted and looks incredible, best looking watch available IMO

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

That's an awesome present. Happy Birthday!

@fabiandee8178 3 жыл бұрын

i love the cyclops..btw can you get an aftermarket solid case back to thin the watch out?

@RelativeTime 3 жыл бұрын

Not that I know of, but I'll look into it.

@ceeb2275 3 жыл бұрын

My Alpinist SPB201JI limited edition comes tomorrow, Starting to love Gray after my Longines HC

@nrs6956 4 жыл бұрын

Good review. Thank you.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@sandsoftime3248 4 жыл бұрын

Great long term review man. I use to own the SPB119J1 cream dial alpinist. I think for a 200m WR, sapphire crystal amazingly designed field watch, its great compared to swiss offering with the exact same specs, if there are ones. The watch is worth 700-800USD imo. Yes its not the perfect watch with bezel misalignment with it not being securely fast within the case, which i think is a really good point you made. I think more thought needed to be put onto strap options, I personally thought the alpinist was way too classy and i didnt want to spend money on another leather strap so i ended up selling the watch. If i were a collector of seiko pieces, or just one in general i would've gotten the sarb017 and if i was an alpinist fanatic, id get the black alpinist because at least it shows a bit more value with the bracelet and its design. Anyways, this was an extremely well done review, professional and very nice imagery, you are hella underrated.

@emgo2467 4 жыл бұрын

I could get the spb123 white with gold for 575 Euro. Should i buy it?

@willardhooton920 4 жыл бұрын

I’m loving it’s overlooked sibling- SBDC073 (champagne/gilt). Tough and classic...this series is the most handsome of the Prospex line!

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

That's awesome too. I noticed they are starting too sell for a little bit more too.

@Valmed87 2 жыл бұрын

BTW, I bought bracelets from both Strapcode and Uncle Seiko for my SPB1J, and yes, they fit the SARB017. Also btw, maybe the power reserve is a hit or miss...but in my case I can confirm its around 70h.

@JimJPoggers 3 жыл бұрын

great review!!! just ordered mine at MSRP I don't know the exchange rate but its close 745 AUD

@riffswatch1559 Жыл бұрын

useful review Sean :)

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@m2pozad 4 жыл бұрын

I would expect the cardinal positions to line-up but not the others, since there are 16 compass positions and only 12 hour position the watch dial.

@pianothatilove 2 жыл бұрын

It is a gorgeous wrist watch and I love it specifically because of the Cyclops

@fisherpaykelauto6137 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent review, very detailed, honest and practical advice that will help me to make the decision buying this watch, but for now I will wait for the price go down little bit more. Around $850-$900 Australian dollars depend on versions. Thanks very much.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Glad it was helpful. It might take a while, but it should eventually go down.

@liptenlaw 4 жыл бұрын

The new white Alpinist is by far my favorite version. I’m also ok with the price, no one is being forced to buy it. The only design element I still can’t get past, are the asymmetrical crowns. But even that could change with over time, as certain designs kind of grow on you after a while. The Seiko Monsters come to mind.

@drewsleyy3836 2 жыл бұрын

I love the asymmetrical crowns, distinguishes the hands and makes it easier to read! Awesome watch

@VersedNJ 4 жыл бұрын

Love your truth full reviews, the good and bad. Aplinists are there own thing, love them or hate it. If I was to get another probably 1. would wait 6 months, 2. buy JDM, 3. I think I'd go white. And yeah it's a strap monster.

@SandeepTuladhar 4 жыл бұрын

I just bought same alpinist recently and noticed exactly the same bezel movement. Also the compass crown wiggles a bit. Does your 2nd crown wiggles aswell?

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

I haven't noticed it wiggle.

@TheShotenZenjin 4 жыл бұрын

I eventually caved and picked up a new “ghost” here in Japan when one seller on Amazon put a couple for sale at about $600. This particular model really is a great looking watch and considering Seiko are putting 4r36 movements in watches up to $700 (e.g the darth turtle) , getting this excellent movement with sapphire for a similar price may soon be considered a bargain!

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

You may be right. I think the Sumos with the 6r35 are in the $800.

@flip97gt 2 жыл бұрын

Which leather strap is that with the brown leather and orange(ish) stitching?

@neel3297 3 жыл бұрын

Most often I will try to keep the North and South aligned with 12 and 6. Was it that hard. Well honestly they should have still kept the 017. To me it was a looker

@situation_zero 4 жыл бұрын

Great review. I want that president style bracelet. How is the fit? Cheers.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

It's OK. Unlike Strap code it's has a folded end link, and the clasp is stamped. It's not bad for the price, but just OK. Surprisingly the beads of rice isn't much more and I think it's a better quality. Same folded end link, but a milled clasp.

@scottmedina7365 2 жыл бұрын

I own the SBDC136 and I love it I’m new to the watch scene and I’m happy with my purchase it cost me $700 shipped from Japan 🇯🇵

@redsox7897 4 жыл бұрын

If you had to choose only one? This or Orient Outdoor and why? Thanks for the excellent video

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Short version: Orient Outdoor. I think the finishing is a little bit better, and more of a unique design. Although I go into more detail here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q65yZqad3p2RgY0.html

@markbyrum4743 3 жыл бұрын

Have you, since you made this video, looked at the new No Compass Alpinist? A comparison video would be nice to see. Thanks for what you do. Keep at it!

@RelativeTime 3 жыл бұрын

Haven't seen them in person. Love to do review of one, just finding it hard to justify the cost. I think they are going for just as much if not more then the traditional alpinist.

@VersedNJ 4 жыл бұрын

Being left handed the bezels don't bother me a bit. If and doubtful I get another Alpinist, probably a good idea to wait sometime for them to up the QC. My King Turtle on right on with the bezel alignment, and they (green and save the ocean) are JDM versions. From what I understand all Alpinist's are Japanese made.

@AvgJoeWatchReviews 4 жыл бұрын

That’s a beautiful Seiko man. Very classic.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@davidschulz5334 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the sport outdoor and I love it, I’m considering a green Sarb017 but I am trying to talk myself out of it. Which do you prefer more, your Alpinist or the Orient Star? Great reviews, always multiple straps and great photography.

@RelativeTime 3 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure if you saw, but I did a 3 way comparison between the Orient Star, Alpinist and Hamilton Khaki King. Field Watch Comparison : Hamilton Khaki King / Seiko Alpinist / Orient Star Outdoor. Who's the King That said, I like all 3 of them, and no plans on selling any. Yet if I had to get rid of one, I think the Alpinist would be the first to go. It’s still a great watch, and I love it on the beads of rice bracelet. But there are things about the other two I like a little better.

@davidschulz5334 3 жыл бұрын

Relative Time, that video actually came up on my recommendations today and I watched it. Thanks for the reply. I think I’ll hold off on the Alpinist awhile. I was feeling the pressure to buy because I want the Sarb017 without the cyclops and I don’t feel like paying the high prices a few years from now as supplies dry up.

@davidbarclay3651 3 жыл бұрын

I switched the original strap the opposite way and it works fine and feels normal.

@SentinelIXK 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you!

@RelativeTime 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thanks!

@EnemyOfGod007 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the thoroughly review, Shane! I am actually looking for a new Seiko watch and this is the one I'm also considering. I have a hard time choosing between the new SRPD97/99, (450$) the SARB033/035 (500$) or the new alpinist in black/cream dial (650$) - those are local prices in Germany btw. All of those above are really similar to each other. 38-39mm cases, black or white/cream dial, sapphire crystal, exhibition caseback and: all of them are strap monsters.. Which one of those would you recommend? Thanks!

@erento2940 4 жыл бұрын

Wich one did you pick?

@EnemyOfGod007 3 жыл бұрын

@@silverghost4206 what is a movement watch?

@EnemyOfGod007 3 жыл бұрын

@@erento2940 I did go for the new Alpinist! I think it's a modern retake at an old classic 🙂

@PT111111 4 жыл бұрын

I have the old green Alpinist and I love it. I was hunting the old white Alpinist but just couldn't find it. This caught my eyes and after the whole Coronavirus thing blows over, I think I might get one.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully the price comes down a bit by then.

@Texmotodad 4 жыл бұрын

I still like your Hamilton w/day&date at the 12 best for this watch segment. Thx for the video.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Some point I might do a 3-way comparison between the Hammy, this and the Orient Star.

@gustaff.weldon 3 жыл бұрын

When is that white Dan Henry 1970 (8:14) review due? I'm deliberating beetwen the white and blue accent one and could use a review to help with that decision.

@RelativeTime 3 жыл бұрын

Great Question. Honestly not sure. I’ve had it for a bit, and been meaning to do it for quite some time, but it’s one that keeps getting pushed back when I wind up getting other watches. Although I’ve been slowly getting the footage I need to do a review of it, so I’m hoping near the end of next month. Anything in particular you want to know about it?

@Crooked_Clown 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the SARB017 signed crown and stem would interchange with the new Alpinist? I know they're different movements but I would like to find out.

@RelativeTime 3 жыл бұрын

That's a good question. They are pretty close, so I would assume they do, Yet can't say for certain.

@ramoverde4133 5 ай бұрын

I was so unsure about spending my hard-earned money on the Alpinist because you KZfaqrs find so many negative ( and good ) things about the watch. But I spent it, and in spite of all I love this watch! I was lucky mi bezel isn't so bad alight 😜 Thanks for the videos 👍

@andyb4874 4 жыл бұрын

What did you think of the crystal performance with the AR coating on the new vs the old SARB017 with no AR?

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

I've never seen the SARB017 in person, so hard to say. With this one I haven't had any issue though, but that might have more to do with the dial color.

@randolphcirilo4800 4 жыл бұрын

Omg.. On that beads of rice US bracelet.. Thats the keeper! Wow!

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

It looks really good on that one.

@viranjith 3 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@RelativeTime 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@dustinr16 4 жыл бұрын

Great, detailed review as always. I’m really liking the new 38mm Aplinist models that got leaked. They ditch the compass bezel and have a screw down 3 o’clock crown. They look way better and it solves at least one of the alignment issues. Unfortunately I’m not willing to buy Seikos Nader their new pricing scheme which is a good thing as I already have too many watches.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

I'm just waiting to hear the price on those. I'm assuming it's going to be just as much or more as this one.

@dustinr16 4 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure how you could justify charging more and getting less (same movement but no compass bezel) but yes I’d expect them to be very similar in price.

@harkonen1000000 4 жыл бұрын

This is the first time I've seen a north hemisphere reviewer with the compass bezel with north at 6 o'clock, like it's actually being used. Cool!

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Although truthfully I usually have it set around there as it lines up better with the indices.

@jwags24 4 жыл бұрын

"Reminds me of something to do with Halloween." Proceeds to name the watch the "Ghost Alpinist." Haha. Great review as always! I really hope the prices eventually drop.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Makes it fit even more. 😎 It's only a matter of time.

@samrodriguez9653 4 жыл бұрын

A very nice review 👍

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Chrissepisje 3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget, movement aside, the fact that the crystal is now AR coated. Holding a new one next to the old SARB, the new ones look that much clearer. But the 400 buck price on a SARB017 was after years of it being on the market, and then getting popular because they were dirt cheap. The model you reviewed seems to end up there now, it's down to 500 bucks in the EU. So a nice review of a nice watch. I got the blue one on bracelet. But kind sir, could you please let me know (or do a vid) on the half-canvas, half-leather straps you were using here? They were gorgeous, and I'd love to know where you got them.

@RelativeTime 3 жыл бұрын

Since people usually ask, I always try to link the straps I use in the description. I think the one you are talking about is a Corudra / Leather Hybrid one from Vario. vario.sg/collections/2-piece-cordura-leather-watch-strap Love the strap, highly recommend them. Only thing I would personally change is to have them taper a little more, but otherwise they are great.

@turbo3492 Жыл бұрын

I have just purchased the Green dial version SPB121J1,it's a stunning watch.Now being a very long time user of Seiko divers of all models,I was expecting the chapter ring/compass to be misaligned,I had to rub my eyes,the compass is spot on at any position. Just goes to prove Seiko can do it properly if they try.

@williamj3459 4 жыл бұрын

Shane, do you have any experience with Swiss Watch Company? It might be a watch to review that your subscribers would love. I have the black dial/orange chapter ring and it's quickly become my favorite...

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

I do. I reviewed the green one a while ago now. It's a great watch. Some point I'd love to see their new sports watch.

@williamj3459 4 жыл бұрын

@@RelativeTime I am definitely up for it. Stay safe!

@SilverSergeant 4 жыл бұрын

Good review.....You have convinced me that my recent $399 SARB017 purchase was a very good value....but I do like the looks of the "Ghost".

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

At $400 it was a far better value. If I had seen that before I hand I might not of got this one.

@SilverSergeant 4 жыл бұрын

Even after I added the Uncle Seiko BOR bracelet (which I really like), the SARB017 seems to be a good deal.

@starfighterusscv-6693 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a thorough review. I'm glad I bought a Lum-Tec, C6 for a dress watch, instead of the Seiko, Prospex, Alpinist. The Lum-Tec has the same movement, but the power reserve is less than 48 hours. I bought my C6 new and negotiated a price of $425. The only Seiko i want is the Grand Seiko with the Spring Drive.

@RelativeTime 3 жыл бұрын

That's a pretty good price. Some point I really need to look into Lum-Tec.

@starfighterusscv-6693 3 жыл бұрын

@@RelativeTime, I like mine. I own two. I also own an X2. I'm thinking about buying a 350M-3 if they make more, it's sold out. I'd pay full price for the 350M-3, I like it so much.

@James-hx1db 4 жыл бұрын

Does the date snap to the next position at midnight? Or is it like the other Seikos that take half the night to fully change? Thanks.

@RelativeTime 4 жыл бұрын

You can see the date change a little after 12:44 . I usually try to show it when I talk about the movements. It flips over about 11:57 on this one. I think the ones you are thing of are the Day Date sekios that use the NH36A or 4R36 movement. Those the date usually flips close to midnight, but the day doesn't go for another couple hours.