Saw that spec rest and thought it was pretty cool. Went to find one online and it’s $850. Doesn’t seem as cool anymore.
@jeremyjeremy87954 жыл бұрын
amazing how that works eh
@brian13354 жыл бұрын
Lmao, 850 bucks for shit that probably costs them 20 bucks to make.
@scoobk34 жыл бұрын
@@brian1335 but it's used by an extravagant list of government agencies so that justifies it, right? LOL
@airbomb344 жыл бұрын
Welcome to BAC. Boutique Arms Commercial.
@scoobk34 жыл бұрын
airbomb34 😂
@jarinorvanto43014 жыл бұрын
Can't say I'm impressed by the ammo. The guy at 200 yards takes bullet after bullet, but just keeps resurrecting (9:57).
@tuckerschwab53313 жыл бұрын
Ok, dad
@joebear93773 жыл бұрын
He picked up a self revive from a mimic he killed.
@James-bw4np3 жыл бұрын
That's Ivan for ya. Keeps coming back for more punishment.
@kdawg98142 жыл бұрын
What a chad
@DanielBoone3373 жыл бұрын
I built an 18" 6.5 Grendel for playing and for a deer/hog gun this year. We have a serious hog problem down in Louisiana and with my 270WSM and 6.5 Creedmoor bolt action rifles I normally hunt with getting more then 1 shot off at the hogs when they showed up was very hard to impossible. So far this year I'm extremely impressed with the Grendel already shot multiple hogs some over 300 lbs and they dropped dead in their tracks!!! Great video as always keepem coming brother.
@kylekrummel74473 жыл бұрын
This just solidified my decision to go 6.5g for my next build. As a reloaded this round has always interested me
@Foxxtalejr4 жыл бұрын
Grendel is pretty fantastic in shorter barrels too. Down at 12 inches, you’re still pushing that projectile at 2200 FPS and can still do 800 ft lbs of energy somewhere between 350 and 400 yards. It really isn’t all that put off by the shorter barrel.
@johnparrish92154 жыл бұрын
I spent a little over 20 years carrying an M16a1, so when I retired (US Navy Seabee) I was not interested in owning an AR15. Not because I hated the rifle, I just didn't like the 5.56 round. When the 6.5 came out I had to check it out, a great round that I have built 11 AR15s around and given as presents to my relatives for Christmas. The 6.5 got the AR back into my life and it's been fun. My relatives and I have put literally thousands of pounds of meat (mostly hogs) into the freezers over the years.
@MrMacroJesseSky4 жыл бұрын
I REALLY hope 6.5 Grendel one day takes off the same way 300 AAC did. The one thing holding me back with the 6.5 is the lack of retail support, also the proprietary bolt head.
@calebsmith62024 жыл бұрын
Eh, the bolt face is robust and modern Type II styles don't have the bolt sheering issues earlier Type I bolts did. More retailers are producing ammunition and quite a few are making guns, Remmington just came out with a 6.5 Grendel load. Best way to incentivize market saturation is to invest, I can't recommend a Grendel enough.
@ds68724 жыл бұрын
Hornady and wolf make 6.5G ammo that's all you need. Considering 6.5g drastically out performs 300hype-out (except maybe supressed shooting) I think it's worth paying a few bucks for a bolt.
@asmcinn4 жыл бұрын
Lacking retail support? What more support do you need? You can buy bargain-bin uppers or spec out your own custom build from AA for 3x the entry kit price. Plenty of barrel and BCG options are available if you want to build your own. The only "downside" is that there are only a handful commercial ammo manufacturers and price is about double per round what you pay for 223/556.
@Who-Uhm-Cares4 жыл бұрын
I can see it getting way more popular down the road.
@Predalien1954 жыл бұрын
@@asmcinn That's the retail support they're likely talking about. 2 companies make ammo for it mostly... Hornady and Wolf, sure you got boutique ammo companies but that's not really readily available everywhere. 6.5 Grendel while a wonderful round just never caught on because of all the parts you had to change out on a standard AR. Lack of available ammo doesnt help either.
@nathanwight15274 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. It's a great alternative to 5.56 and can easily get hits on long distance targets. I have a 20 inch Grendal and it is a pleasure to shoot.
@2Stonefly4 жыл бұрын
I own an 1894 Swede carbine that some one butchered in the 80's. I restocked it and gave it a new life. The 6.5 caliber is so underrated for hunting. Good shot placement and a quality bullet (Nosler bonded 140 grns) gets the job done.
@Mrgunsngear4 жыл бұрын
thanks
@joeynice1234 жыл бұрын
The rest looks great but at $850 I will keep my old rest.
@adog74744 жыл бұрын
Big Brain Times Read before you comment
@rememberussliberty18224 жыл бұрын
I just use a forked stick
@paint1413 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think I’ll just buy another ar instead of a rest
@slasher3024 жыл бұрын
My first AR build was a 6.5 Grendel. I topped it with the Primary Arms 6-30x scope with the DECA reticle. I couldn't be more happy.
@robkilcollins3104 жыл бұрын
Thank you for 12 years of hardcore pumping, Tim! Hope one day to give you a handshake.
@Hey_you_______x4 жыл бұрын
Or a smack on the arse.
@pimpovic24 жыл бұрын
@@Hey_you_______x hardcore pumping? Lol
@jonathangriffiths24994 жыл бұрын
pimpovic2 spelling mistake “ hardcore pimping “
@Militaryarmschannel4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother.
@Hey_you_______x4 жыл бұрын
@@pimpovic2 hardcore
@APlife7643 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen on weapons. A great balance of discussion and application without fluff. Oorah!!!
@pimpovic24 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering the great Grendel round. You may want to add the 6.5 Grendel to the title if this video. You'll get a lot more interest and views.
@quadarionm.johnson42254 жыл бұрын
😎😎
@kylerust38894 жыл бұрын
3 hours ago. I thought this video would be 4 years old
@richardmiller31464 жыл бұрын
Me too. I didn't think he was allowed to list a price for a firearm on KZfaq
@obeyshadey89184 жыл бұрын
Seems like it doesn’t it. And for some reason all the 6.8 videos are 20yrs old.
@mickeybonez89502 ай бұрын
It is 4 years now 👌🏼
@mr_mel4 жыл бұрын
$850 for a tripod/rest!!! Goodness, I wish things were a little more budget friendly
@tuberaider4 жыл бұрын
There are better options for much less, IMO. Look up PigSaddle, mount it on a camera ball and one of their tripods, and you have it. Best of it, is that if you are into photography, you can use the ball and tripod for long exposure photography or a stable mount for landscape photos, filming areas, or long distance nature photography (bird nests).
@chlebowg4 жыл бұрын
Get three broom sticks and some 550 cord!
@ricks.10924 жыл бұрын
As soon as Tim, said it's light with "carbon fiber legs." I knew this thing was going to be super over priced. Carbon fiber is light and super strong. However it's very expensive to even produce the end materials into a sheet or block. And then manufactures can shape their products using this material.
@jonhurley17504 жыл бұрын
Looks like it wouldn't be hard to duplicate
@Shadow0fd3ath244 жыл бұрын
They are when you arent shilling out like he is for some overpriced plastic ass rest
@theaveragewoodsman60024 жыл бұрын
That Spec Rest is overpriced and overly complicated.
@Flemdragon4 жыл бұрын
Yea could get a regular tripod with arca rail and be so much easier. As long as you don’t have 20 rifles out at the range shooting.
@airbomb344 жыл бұрын
Or you could buy a sling and do sling arms.
@mynameisnobody61264 жыл бұрын
@Michael Srite because he can.
@fatdan1725014 жыл бұрын
Michael Srite I’m sure you’re here watching all the free content though lol.
@VincentNajger14 жыл бұрын
Too much plastic too. That thing will crack to pieces in a couple years....especially exposed to a lot of UV outdoors.
@bryanross3466 Жыл бұрын
I built one several years back and it is hands down my favorite caliber in an MSR platform. Shoots about any ammo so so but really shines when you hand load for it.
@DrewEdwardBacklas4 жыл бұрын
I built an 18” 6.5 grendel as a lightweight deer rifle on a cavarms/gwacs polymer lower (like the inrange wwsd rifle) it’s sub 7lbs with optic and a loaded 10 round mag. Took 2 Texas whitetail last year with it. Love the cartridge.
@terrellfarms14 жыл бұрын
I love my 6.5 Grendel build but as soon as i got it all my local vendors, except one, quit stocking ammo. Of course all they stocked was $25 a box or higher. Before i went with Grendel i looked at the 6.8 spc for a comparison. No one stocked the 6.8 spc ammo but they did the Grendel, so i went with the Grendel. Now it's reversed. I started looking for ammo online and it was no cheaper with shipping. I found a vendor in a neighboring town who stocked the Wolf ammo this past weekend. I just cleaned him out at $9 a box. He said he would have more in a few weeks and i told him to give me a call.
@Brimwald4 жыл бұрын
You can do better than $0.45/rd for Wolf pre-pandemic. Before the pandemic it was $0.30-$0.35/rd
@proonguice83864 жыл бұрын
Paul Lo Cicero Ive been getting 6.5 Grendel at a nickel per round for years.
@LL-fi4rr4 жыл бұрын
GetTheFuck0ffMyLawn I get paid 35 cents per round to buy it idk what y’all are talking about.
@proonguice83864 жыл бұрын
Paul Lo Cicero you’re right, its actually 4 cents per round but I rounded up. Send us the link or ad for your 25 cent grendel ammo.
@proonguice83864 жыл бұрын
Koffee Kreme Paul said he’s NEVER paid more than 25 cents, according to him ya’ll are suckers was my point.
@ChristianGrest4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Tim! Really good comparison of these cartridges. That ADM rifle really is sweet! I finished up my first 6.5 Grendel AR15 build earlier this year specifically to hunt whitetail deer. I went with a 16" barrel to save a little weight and will be using a suppressor. So far, so good with my experience with the caliber, but need to spend more time with it over the summer to ensure it's ready to go for this year's deer season.
@bluegrass48404 жыл бұрын
Yes sir I build an AR using that set. I love the ADM setup.
@farva374 жыл бұрын
What’s different on the 6.5? Bolt and barrel right?
@ChristianGrest4 жыл бұрын
farva37 Bolt, barrel and magazine.
@000one4 жыл бұрын
the ^.5 Grendel is truly amazing. I can’t believe I waited so long to get on board. Now since loads are developed and the type II is here, it has become my new favorite. Hunts deer out past 250, hits steel out to 1000 yards. The list of cartridges it competes with as the yardage increases is impressive, kinda like the further it flies the better it gets. It is not a Creedmoor, but in an AR platform, it is as good as it gets with all things taken into consideration, including energy ay distances.
@ds68724 жыл бұрын
Put mine together a few years ago, absolutely love it. Hope 6.5G continues to gain in popularity
@TheBrewer35354 жыл бұрын
Grendel- the best thing Alexander Arms ever designed
@randomidiot81423 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 6.5 ppc. Totally revolutionary and completely unlike the 6 ppc.
@AdventuresUnited4 жыл бұрын
MAC has the best intro of any of the youtube gun channels
@jamesphilip45623 жыл бұрын
I had a 5.56, 1:7 twist AR. I removed the BCG and barrel and put in a 6.5 fluted barrel and bolt. I haven’t used it but everything looks good.
@dylandehuff12643 жыл бұрын
Love the 6.5 made a 12.5 inch one and hitting steel out at 500 yards.
@roberthavens77004 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club. I've been a fan since 2007. I shoot LR matches and hunt with my Sabre Defense Heavy Target rifle. Accurate and lethal. Enjoy your Grendel , Tim.
@gunfunandstuff92264 жыл бұрын
*** FYI: for those that reloads, you can use brass 7.62x39 casings and form it into 6.5 Grendel.....so the Grendel is pretty much a necked down AK :-)
@yissnakklives88664 жыл бұрын
but it's kind of a pain. Need to fire-form them after resizing to get the shoulder set correctly - this takes (generally) a heavy (140gn) bullet at fairly low velocity
@TroyPosey4 жыл бұрын
It’s cheaper to just buy new bulk pack Hornady brass, or shoot factory Hornady ammo, and reuse the brass. I do both for my gas guns.
@gunfunandstuff92264 жыл бұрын
yes....both of "yous" are correct.....i was just saying it could be done converting the 7.62x39.....I find a lot of brass 7.62x39 where I shoot that people leave behind, so might as well make use of em
@barccy4 жыл бұрын
There is also hydroforming kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7eXfKmkyLyzdWw.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNGnnJOGnMuVcas.html
@TroyPosey4 жыл бұрын
Hydroforming also works, but it still requires true fire-forming for finishing out the shoulders and the sharp angles.
@TheCloudCreation4 жыл бұрын
My very first AR was a 6.5 grendel with a 19" Lilja chrome lined fluted barrel. Absolutely love that gun. I can ding any target within 1000 meters all day long with minimal wind holds and the bullets just shoots so flat and has so little recoil. Granted it doesn't have anywhere near the long range precision as even it's 6.5 Creedmoor cousin, but it's a damn good small caliber round and i absolutely love it.
@meb2124 жыл бұрын
I've almost been looking for a reason to not build a 6.5 Grendel. I can't find one.
@ds68724 жыл бұрын
Do it! I certainly don't regret building mine
@meb2124 жыл бұрын
@@ds6872 I plan on it!
@DannyMayhem774 жыл бұрын
Check out bear creek arsenal. I got their 16" fluted barrel, love it
@meb2124 жыл бұрын
@@DannyMayhem77 that's where I plan on getting mine! I want to get an 18".
@budlite82074 жыл бұрын
@@DannyMayhem77 I purchased their 20" bbl stainless, actually two (one for a buddy). His was so nice, i had to buy one for myself
@CallofWar54 жыл бұрын
I put together a 12" Grendel and its great, but my extractor broke on a Monster bolt after about 400 rounds of wolf. And grendel mag reliability is hit or miss with any of the offerings, some more than others. It would be great if UTG or magpul started making grendel mags. What we have in the mag issue is a limitation when wanting to build the grendel as a fighting gun.
@jeremy67A4 жыл бұрын
This round has started taking over the range.
@Who-Uhm-Cares4 жыл бұрын
It’s such a great round for hunting!
@justinlance41743 жыл бұрын
@@gsxr1189 6mm arc is cool. But unavailable. Ecxpensive. No cheap bulk ammo. Less energy on target. Smaller diameter bullet=smaller wound track. And so on
@justinlance41743 жыл бұрын
@@gsxr1189 no it does not 6mm arc hits1600 muzzle. 6.5 hits over 1800. And 6.5 has a larger frontal diameter so it imparts energy on target more efficiently
@justinlance41743 жыл бұрын
@@gsxr1189 no 6mm 1600 6.5 1800 acording to my cronographs and calculators. I shoot both 6mm and 6.5 there is a pretty big and noticeable difference on gel targets. And steel. 6mm if ur punching paper. 6.5 if u go into combat. Buy witch ever but if i only had one it would be 6.5
@justinlance41743 жыл бұрын
@@gsxr1189 hornady over hypes info most ammo i get from them cronos 100fps below advertised fps
@prestonhall44284 жыл бұрын
I’ve been playing with this caliber for five years now at least. I like it but I don’t love it. It’s really tough to get decent velocity out of the heavier bullets which are of course the ones that give you a good ballistic coefficient. I’ve used different powders and different barrels over the years. When it comes to hunting a good 223 is good for pigs and a 308 is great for deer. While many people are getting into the caliber I think I’ll be getting out of it shortly.
@derbsmcbergs3 жыл бұрын
mind me asking what powders you have worked with? 8208 seems to be the one mine likes (12.5 & 18).
@DB.KOOPER4 жыл бұрын
6.5 Grendel is demonstrably the best all-around caliber you can run in an AR15 pattern rifle (6.8SPC is _great_ within 200-250m but it's NOT a "long range" design, it was designed for CQB fighting and the Grendel is a LOT more efficient at long ranges, not just "neck and neck" or "a little better" it's a LOT better). I love 6.5 Grendel, in fact I'm taking my 16" Grendel out tomorrow for some 1000m shooting in the coming good weather here in the PNW. FWIW, I have a 12" Grendel I've taken White Tail with (last one was shot at a little over 270m) and a 16" rifle I consistently take out to 1000m on steel. Barrel length is important but the 6.5 Grendel still works REALLY well out of shorter barrels.
@DB.KOOPER4 жыл бұрын
@@gsxr1189 its pretty interesting for sure. I still like the Grendel for its heavier projectiles when it comes to hunting but I'm gonna be really interested in getting a barrel to try out the 6mm ARC. Its nice to have it based off the Grendel cause we can just swap barrels or build uppers with the same bolts for the Grendel (especially after I've invested in a couple JP HD bolts).
@dewood94634 жыл бұрын
Way back in the late 1800's Mr Mauser, when designing a new rifle for the German military, said 7mm was the optimum military round. Looks like we're getting closer.
@TroyPosey4 жыл бұрын
Checkout the .280 British round... It was the inspiration for the 6.5 Grendel. 😉 Oh, and I’m a huge 7mm fanatic. Probably had over a dozen different 7mm rifles and cartridges over the years. My favorites are 7mm-08, .280 Sherman, 7mm RemMag, and 7mm STW.
@Shadow0fd3ath244 жыл бұрын
the us military has found over the last 20 years that 6.8 is the best now so pretty close
@jmkhenka4 жыл бұрын
bullet and case design was mostly perfected 100 years ago. New cartridges are mostly PR to sell new and fresh stuff. We just apply modern constraints to existing designs. Grendel is nothing special, neither is CM or any of the modern fancy named rounds - its just PR PR PR. I still love the 6.5x55 from 1891! But its a long action, so no fancy AR15 support :) Im just glad the americans have started to notice the 6.5 superiority, makes the bullet selection better.
@TroyPosey4 жыл бұрын
@@jmkhenka I wouldn't say 100 years ago, because 100-120 years ago they were still using cordite for an ignition source in metallic cartridges. So, I'd say more like 50-70 years ago back when P.O. Ackley was developing his cartridges. I have several Ackleys and they are leaps-and-bounds ahead of their parent cartridges in performance and design.
@burtonkephart62394 жыл бұрын
Seth N. Yea that’s what I want a 6.8 ! It’s got a little more versatility than the grendel I think
@Dragonscout4 жыл бұрын
Just adding this to my research. Was gonna buy an upper but can't find the ammo anywhere locally, only online and I looked at 25 stores including bass pro and academy around Macon. Of course I don't expect a lot out of them any more. And wally world was the first to quit. So it's currently a non-starter for me. I just hate spending a grand for a .308 semi-auto AR. . . On the rotator cuff, had mine ripped badly, snapped a tendon and tore the bicep jerking a dead patient out of a vehicle to do CPR. Saved the guy, but GET A CUMFY RECLINER!!! The surgeon had me sleeping in it for 4-6 weeks to protect his extensive work, the cats liked the recliner tho...
@kyle189343 жыл бұрын
its a great battle to fend off the furniture from cats lol. my dog claims my bed and wont give up laying on at least half the blankets when im making the bed lol i hope your rotator cuff and arm heal quickly. thankyou for saving the guy. that takes a lot of courage to do that, and continue after hurting yourself so badly. have a good day
@randyemenhiser25734 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about going to 6.5 Grendel for quite awhile.
@gunfunandstuff92264 жыл бұрын
just get one, you won't regret it
@talkingrock70114 жыл бұрын
It’s a fine caliber i had to add one to my collection and no regrets
@ds68724 жыл бұрын
Same here, hits like a 7.62x39, flies like a 223
@ryanweiss17214 жыл бұрын
6.5 grendel is awesome. My LaRue is hands down my favorite long range rifle.
@nataliedeyton68294 жыл бұрын
Like others said ... do it they are amazing
@p.hightower53834 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. 6.5 vs 6.8 would be awesome.
@MattDonkin430 Жыл бұрын
OMG lets not light that powder cag.
@no-legjohnny36913 жыл бұрын
6.5mm, a bullet that is often forgotten throughout history, but one that when we look back on, realise that they were some of the best performing rounds compared to their piers. I honestly don't know why no country has stuck with it, even nowadays in light of it's arguably better performance. I could be wrong though, perhaps it sits in the uncanny valley of rounds where it isn't small enough to be light, but not large enough to carry energy out to further ranges, but alas, I wouldn't be one to know.
@justincary48033 жыл бұрын
It's all about price. Most people don't want to pay $0.60-$1.30 for the 6.5 grendel round. You can get 5.56 rounds for $0.24-$0.80. You can get 308 for the same price as the 6.5 grendel and 308 has better charts.
@jackmemphis7773 жыл бұрын
compared to their PIERS, 6.5 grendel is extremely effective when shooting a fish.
@jackmemphis7773 жыл бұрын
@@justincary4803 the cheapest you can get 5.56 and .223 right now is 65 cents on rare occasions but its closer to $1 a round with the demand atm. 7.62x39 is the most reasonably priced round right now, all the ammo ive bought has been in the 35-60 cent range
@justincary48033 жыл бұрын
@@jackmemphis777 I'm going off of normal prices. Not these "pandemic" prices.
@delta3two3 жыл бұрын
@@jackmemphis777 😅😆😂🤣
@wishuhadmyname4 жыл бұрын
2:32 "I want a small, lightweight rifle, like a standard AR 15, but that has more punch." I'm in the same boat and I'm looking at the POF Revolution DI. It shoots .308 out of the same size upper, bolt carrier (different bolt of course), buffer tube assembly, and weighs 6.8lbs (according to POF's website). On top of that, .308 ammo is a bit cheaper and more widely available
@SwornHeresy4 жыл бұрын
Why not go with the POF Rogue? A pound lighter and almost $1,000 cheaper.
@Militaryarmschannel4 жыл бұрын
6.5G Wolf is far less expensive than any .308 I've found.
@Shadow0fd3ath244 жыл бұрын
You can build a sub 5lb 308 nowadays.....for ar15s you can build one sub 4lbs with red dot and mag from off the shelf parts for under $1100.....but the Rogue is a lot cheaper and lighter
@StevenL003 жыл бұрын
@@SwornHeresy the Revolution has a DI variant, and it's ambi if you care for that
@justinlance41743 жыл бұрын
@@alexjoseph8363 my saber defence grendel shots moa with wolf ammo
@williamdavis25654 жыл бұрын
Had a friend of mine the other day tell me that he didn't think I "needed an AR to hunt Bambi." Though I think he was being a "Fudd", I told him that agreed with him, an AR is actually a poor choice for hunting deer. I just sent him this video... ;-) Thanks Tim!
@paolosasso21897 ай бұрын
I just rewatched this. I've been a fan of 6.5 Grendel for a few years. I think this was the video that made me finally decide to buy a 6.5 Grendel upper. Now I own two of them!
@sneakytails17244 жыл бұрын
I am sticking with 5.56 for my main AR-15, it will always be more available and cheaper to shoot and train with. I will be getting a 6.5 Grendel bolt gun instead, Ruger just came out with a 16" Ranch. This should offset the cost of ammo as I will shoot less in the bolt gun, and get the most accuracy out of it.
@jjsemperfi4 жыл бұрын
My 6.5 Grendel upper is shooting .6 MOA. That's about as good as my 6.5 Creedmoor bolt gun...
@japarsell3 жыл бұрын
during the pandemic i literally picked up 3k of the wolf for 28 cents per round while 223 skyrocketed
@sneakytails17243 жыл бұрын
@@japarsell Good idea, the problem is that now all the price gougers and flippers are buying the grendel steel case and re-selling it on Gunrboker for twice what they paid. There are 60k rounds on there from just one seller. Most sites are sold out right now. The greed is insane right now.
@Spartanhero514 жыл бұрын
It’s too bad the US Army didn’t change over to this caliber. It would’ve served us very well.
@teleringdataspesialisten18693 жыл бұрын
There is a simple reason for that, the parent case is .220 Russian aka a hostile entity design...
@user-pb2vo4pt3t9 ай бұрын
After shooting a friend's AR in Grendel, my first thought was "The AR-15 has finally grown up." I stand by that, after owning one for just over two years. Grendel makes the AR a true rifle. 6-800 yards is no problem for this cartridge. I must add, Grendel likes a long barrel. 20" minimum. I built mine with an HBAR for better performance. That said, the Russian Wolf ammo (100 grain FMJ) is designed for 16" barrels. It's does better in the longer barrels, of course. The Hornady 123 HP is match grade ammo, and lethal past 800 yards. Grendel is exactly what the AR-15 platform needed. They designed the cartridge for this rifle! It's excellent!!! With 40% of the recoil of a 308! I have NO regrets about changing to Grendel.
@78tooth834 жыл бұрын
I built my grendel right before this deployment. Total bill for the build was under $800. Shoots sub MOA using Hornadey black 123GR. Sorry about the spelling. Been stuck on duty for about 24 hours. But yes what little hunting I have done with it. It good.
@DeadBaron4 жыл бұрын
Man I need to save my money in these hard times, now here I am thinking about a Grendel build
@TroyPosey4 жыл бұрын
You can’t take it with you when you go... Might as well live life today. 👍🏻
@ChristopherKnN4 жыл бұрын
An upper build is pretty cost efficient
@RichardCranium3214 жыл бұрын
Look at it this way, box of 20rd steel case 6.5 is about $5 & match grade brass ammo is about the same price as 556, not to mention u can use 7.62x39 mags. So "it'll actually SAVE money, dear" (wife justification) 😅
@MrRdvs874 жыл бұрын
Chris Kauffman is right, buy the upper and shoot the grendel now. You can circle back for a dedicated lower later, that’s the beauty of AR’s.
@DannyMayhem774 жыл бұрын
I built mine used a fluted 16" bear creek arsenal barrel( was $70) at the time, 1.5" groups with wolf
@amym8284 жыл бұрын
Forget talking about what the video is supposed to showcase, let's see how many products we can push in one video!
@proonguice83864 жыл бұрын
I was looking for someone else that noticed. Long commercial for overpriced stuff. I was waiting for Tim to strip down and try to sell me his Hanes.
@twg21184 жыл бұрын
Agree all his videos have turned into the same thing. I can’t stay awake for the whole thing. Needs new content
@Matteo_4 жыл бұрын
Whew... I'm not the only one who noticed!
@bradbeam72544 жыл бұрын
I just double tap the right side and jump 10 seconds. They have to find funding somewhere since KZfaq doesn’t pay them anymore. No money=no content; necessary evil.
@williamboggs43174 жыл бұрын
He is not pushing noting just showing different really cool products because people wont to know thanks
@SP-ny7lw4 жыл бұрын
I have a 12.5in 6.5 Grendel that is my go to "pistol" for everything. Light and short so it's easy to carry and transport for hunting and it screams running it in my local 2 gun matches.
@SP-ny7lw4 жыл бұрын
@Eugene Stoner it is a winner! Love the thing!
@SP-ny7lw4 жыл бұрын
@ReadyOrNot I've been running it for a few years and the first cheapo bolt I had for it broke. After that I replaced it with an Alexander arms and have no problems with anything. Runs flawlessly. And I run steel exclusively in it outside of hunting which I have some reloads
@Matteo_4 жыл бұрын
@Eugene Stoner You keep running your mouth about something that hasn't been an issue with the 6.5 Grendel since the type 2 chamber & bolt became the predominant spec and the .264 (6.5) LBC - Les Baer Cartridge went defunct. You should really refrain from espousing what you have little (actually zero) experience in. I mean I get it. You're parroting out of date (10 yr old) no longer factually true ARFCOM info. @Scott Park Love all of my 6.5 Grendels. Right now my go to is my 16". I also run the Wolf almost exclusively
@Matteo_4 жыл бұрын
@Eugene Stoner Geez... Did you really just parrot something I've seen out of an ARFCOM post, near-verbatim? As for militaries using the 6.5 Grendel? Eh, you might want to check that again. IIRC the Serbian military adopted it. And in terms of LE? Yeah last I heard, a few counties police forces added it for use in their special tactics units. My guess is sniping use from a smaller type platform like the Serbians. My round count? Well, I own several 6.5 Grendels. However, my current 16" is on its way to 4000 as its halfway through it's third case of the 100gn Wolf. I order by the case and typically burn through most, if not all of it when I take it out for the weekend. 😉 Okay there Mr. Behind-The-Times. Let me school you on a few things. They can and do feed reliably from 25/26 round 6.5 Grendel magazines. Not 6.8 mags relabeled as 6.5. The 6.5 Grendel has more case taper than a 5.56 therefore it requires more of a curve to the mag body. However, if the mag is, in essence, a 556 mag with the dimpling changed to accommodate the 6.5 Grendel then yes 10 to 15 rounds is generally the limit for reliable feeding. 7.62x39 bolts are not the same. The x39 and .264 LBC (Les Baer Cartridge) have a .125" bolt face depth due to the deeper chamber seating depth. They are not specified/recommended to be a 9310 bolt material. Whereas the 6.5 Grendel does and was derived using the same bolt as the 50 Beowulf or 12.7x42. (.136" bolt face depth) Also, the case taper design of the x39, in conjunction with the larger flat-base surface area of the .310" x39 bullet lends itself to higher bolt thrust. This in turn leads to higher wear and stress on the bolt lugs even though it runs at a lower pressure spec... Do 556 bolts have higher bolt life expectancies? Yes. Provided those bolts are not HP (high pressure tested) Otherwise no since HP testing simply preloads stress to induce failures earlier. A fact Colt Canada proved when they discovered the C7 & C8 had higher bolt service life than their US counterparts. But let's be clear, the divide is not as great as you are attempting to allege. Bolt issues dissipated when the recommended type 2 bolt & chamber became the predominant 6.5 G spec. JP & AA bolts enjoy a solid service life. Other manufacturers bolts are seeing really good service life. Provided the material is of quality and heat treatments are correct. Even issues with extractors have been seldom until recently, with some batches of extractors. Although like any bolt design, the extractor in an autoloader is going to be subject to metallurgy and heat treatment. Regardless of the cartridge, it's chambered for. You either get it right, or you don't. When it's wrong, then 5.56 & 7.62 NATO, along with any other cartridge will see failures. 6.5 Grendel actually had full auto testing as a standard with Alexander Arms at one time, not that Marines and soldiers are taught to use full-auto fire from their service rifles. You get a clear idea of what type of moron you're dealing with when they start talking about full-auto fire from their service carbines and rifles. But nice attempt at moving the goalpost in a discussion centered around civilian AR's, ie semiautos. Oh and FYI there bucko I'm a Marine vet. Combat Engineers. 😉 Much like I carry a spare bolt and a backup BCG for my 556 AR's for a class or just simply some range time. I do the same thing with my 6.5. Why? Because regardless of the chambering. A weak point in the AR bolt design is the cam pinhole. I don't have the logistics that Uncle Sam once afforded me so I come prepared should Murphy come a calling. Do everyone a favor bud. Stay off of the decade-old ARFCOM info. And get a f'ing clue as to what you are talking about before running your suck, hmm?
@allenpatterson19394 жыл бұрын
This is a great deer round. The 120gr NBT by Alexander Arms is very accurate out of my 18” LaRue upper. The round does massive damage.
@thabuzzman62373 жыл бұрын
I have a larue as well, I got in on the fde deal with the rifle complete with the sighted in scope and all. I love it
@allenpatterson19393 жыл бұрын
That’s an awesome combo, congrats. LaRue make great products IMHO...& the 6.5G is just a great deer round for mid range distances.
@maxmorrison91954 жыл бұрын
6.5 Grendel is the best, been hunting with it for a while.
@justa3v6194 жыл бұрын
Max Morrison same here. I’ve killed deer with my 16” and 18”. Actually just got a new scope on the 18” today. Caught a primary arms gold series 3-18x with the hud dmr reticle on eBay as a demo model for 299$. It was wearing the 4-14x primary arms Orion which is an awesome scope for hunting that scope will be going on the 16” now. But back on track I’ve killed deer out to 260yds with my grendels with the 120gn federal fusion. Totally destroyed an entire front shoulder with that controlled chaos 110gn Lehigh I don’t use them anymore it does the job but it does it too well if you hit a shoulder. Can’t wait to try out the Barnes 115gn vor-tx this year
@ostrich21954 жыл бұрын
Last deer I shot was with a 30-06 using a 168 grain BTHP. Seems to kill deer really well. Cause they are deer.
@justa3v6194 жыл бұрын
Ostrich 21 can’t go wrong with a 30.06 deer hunting either but when it comes to deer hunting with an AR-15 the list starts with 6.5 Grendel and ends with 6.5 Grendel if you ask me. 6.8spc isn’t bad either but the Grendel in my opinion is just a little better in every category the big bore calibers are good too if you don’t care about any kind of long range capabilities. I have a ks47 just an AR-15 made by psa chambered in 7.62x39 and takes ak mags and my son uses it for deer hunting. But since the 7.62x39 shares the same case as the Grendel it should feed from an ak mag also and I’m really thinking about swapping out his barrel and bolt to 6.5 Grendel for this year.
@idontwanttoputmyname4034 жыл бұрын
@@justa3v619 I've got a KS-47 as well so you saying that made me go looking for info. From the brief Google searches I've done, it looks 6.5 Grendel and 7.62x39 mags don't sort together. If you know something different though I'd love to hear it :) I love my ks-47 so far, even if it's mainly just been for target shooting so far.
@justa3v6194 жыл бұрын
I don't want to put my name go on the palmetto website and under the reviews of the stripped uppers there’s a guy saying he did the 6.5 Grendel barrel and they feed perfectly from the ak mag. I’ve put 6.5 Grendel rounds in my ak mags just to see and they fit and will strip off the top like they should. Idk I’m going to give it a shot
@EJGentleman4 жыл бұрын
6.5 Grendel. GREAT round, been using for over 2 years. This is a very accurate round and rifle. Great review. I went with a 20" stainless steel barrel from Odin Works.
@gsitzkowitz Жыл бұрын
I just stumbled on this video an immediately felt the need to comment. Years ago I built a Grendel to hunt deer with after buying into much of the hype around the Grendel. I built a 24” barrel gun to get maximum performance. Accuracy was outstanding! But my first deer was my last with the Grendel. The inability to penetrate the base of a doe’s neck at 150 yards is unacceptable. Why? I’ve hunting deer with numerous rounds from 223 to 7 mag and I have never had failure to penetrate! Even with a 223 with a 55 grain Varmint bullet, my only deer with that round and it completely pasted though. I subsequently moved to a 300 Hamr which doesn’t have the range of the Grendel but it has superior terminal effect within it’s applicable range.
@jimmieburleigh95494 жыл бұрын
I have to correct you regardless of gun and caliber if it's on a high fence ranch regardless of game it's not hunting it's harvesting
@jimmieburleigh95494 жыл бұрын
@Jones Hunting a high fence rance is almost like hunting cattle in pasture. No sport in it.
@erikbender19674 жыл бұрын
That's one of Bill Alexander's caliber creations, if my old man brain serves me right.
@pablopenasco42544 жыл бұрын
Yup. Around 2006 I think. I bought a “6.5 Sporter” in 2012 when the Grendel name was still licensed and I didn’t have the money for a Alexander Arms rifle. 6.5 Grendel has improved since then with the “Type II” bolt. I am still running a 7.62x39 bolt that grendel started out with and it has never broken for me. But now I want to get a lighter barrel and swap to Type II bolt and headspace.
@georgesakellaropoulos81623 жыл бұрын
In conjunction with Lapua.
@erikbender19673 жыл бұрын
@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 I worked with Bill when I was working at HK USA here in Columbus, GA.
@UponGiantsShoulders4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people have torn rotator cuffs and are able to rehab past it with no surgery. I am one of them, depending on severity it can be quite easy to rehab, if lengthy in time. Look into a book called bullet proof your shoulder, its a very small book but has a lot of wisdom in it about the shoulder. Another common issue is pain caused by impingement and I had both issues. I say had because by hanging and using the exercises in that book I have all but eliminated it. Also side sleeping aggravates it so I had to learn how to sleep on my back.
@masterkeep4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about the shoulder. I had repair done to mine a few years ago. Make sure you do exactly what the physician and the physical therapist tell you to do so you heal and then get your mobility back. I was 47 when this happened and I barely lost any mobility after therapy was done and it is my stronger shoulder now. Good luck.
@Zwisermon14 жыл бұрын
Military needs the 6.5grendel it’s a straight shooting cartridge.
@andymackenney4 жыл бұрын
Zwisermon1 they need it for Afghanistan 🇦🇫
@coolbeans61484 жыл бұрын
@@8166PC1 nah, i doubt it.
@mikespears24324 жыл бұрын
All bullets shoot straight it’s the shooter that’s the problem lol!
@coolbeans61484 жыл бұрын
@@8166PC1 6mm ARC is the best out their for a military round. To make it better, I would have picked a cut down 308 case (x39) with 85gr 6mm.
@coolbeans61484 жыл бұрын
@@gsxr1189 didn't know that. It's about time the military didn't make a dumb decision.
@paweazinski54804 жыл бұрын
Great Video, happy I have decided to become supporter :), I know 6.5 Grendel is much better cardridge than 556 but what about barrel wear ? Hammer forged barrel in 556 can last 20 to 30 thousands of rounds (maybe even more), but what about barrel in 6.5 Grendel ?
@joem70234 жыл бұрын
Good question
@SbrGrendel654 жыл бұрын
Grendel doesn’t shoot at 3k FPS you’ll get good Barrel life and you can find Grendel barrels QPQ. Pop over to the Grendel.com/forum and I’m sure some there have thousands of rounds on a specific barrel
@pvtsnoballz4 жыл бұрын
@Jack Wells titanium barrels? Wtf are you talking about?
@pvtsnoballz4 жыл бұрын
@@SbrGrendel65 6.5 creedmoore shoots slower or comparable to 5.56 velocities and burns barrels very quickly. There's more to it than just velocity.
@Brimwald4 жыл бұрын
Most Grendel barrels are stainless steel so they wont last as long in general. Doubt it has the same barrel issue that 6.5 Creedmoor does, but stainless wont hold up as long
@JayWilkins-zh7fx18 сағат бұрын
Personally i think the king ar intermediate cartridge is the 6.5-223 sadly tou have to make it yourself most times but boys a good round. 75 to 110grain 6.5 slug in a 223 case. Lets you sling a 100grain slug at like 2700fps with a 13inch barrel it performs exceptionally well in short barrels and in a 16inch your doing around 2800 to 2900fps which is mighty impressive. On top of the little bit of extra power the bc of that 6.5 is also going to give you a little more range and its still traveling at speeds comporable to a 223 with similar recoil plus all 223 mags and ar hardware works with it all you need is a barrel swap. You can accurate sling led out to 750yards or more with a 16inch all day long. Its what the military should of invested in instead of 6.8 m7. All they would need is barrel swaps for m4 m16s and saw machine guns no bolt swap nothing else which is also alot cheaper plus it doesent weigh any more than 556 and it doesent decrease ammo cap and you dont have to teach soldiers a new system. It also would of been easier cheaper and faster for ammo producers to make the rounds since 90% of the tooling and stuff is the same to make andload 223 or 556 cases accept you neck it up and put a 6.5slug and a pinch more powder at the end.
@fook-joby-den61723 жыл бұрын
I have an 18” 6.5G & I’m presently assembling a 13.9” 6.5 Grendel(Pin/Weld) from SOLGW. I agree with Tim on the trigger. The SD-C for has a stiffer & more tactile reset, with a more defined second stage that is a hair heavier than the SD-E by .8-1.2lbs +/- a few tenths and I’ve found myself using either the SD-C in all my rifles or just using a basic BCM PNT nickel Teflon coated Mil/Spec style trigger are the two options I lean towards these days, preference wise. Every other trigger besides those two are simply MEH for my tastes. I want the 13.9” 6.5G to have a lw Mini DMR that is short enough w/ Samdman k can to handle maneuvering in tight spaces while at same time it offers the ability to still reach out to moderate-long distances(400-750yards) while still delivering good energy one it gets there. Given 300-350yards is around 1000ft lbs of energy & 700-750 yards is right at or just below 500ft lbs of energy. Where as my 13.7” 5.56 only has a couple hundred ft lbs of energy at 500 yards making it a realistic 0-300 yard rifle with occasional ability to lob in rounds at 300-500 with minimal energy transfers left using the 13.7” 5.56 platform. Thus by selecting the 13.9” 6.5G it has all of the benefits of the 13.7” 5.56 without any of the draw backs allowing it to still have plenty of energy left at ranges out to 750 yards. This will be handy for a compact hunting rifle as well as if the need should ever arise to hunt anything of the two legged tyrant variety, it’s a solid choice for paper, steel of defending life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness.
@FreedomandBaconHomestead4 жыл бұрын
Still the best intro on KZfaq!!!
@Militaryarmschannel4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad someone thinks so. It's been copied many times too. Haha.
@FreedomandBaconHomestead4 жыл бұрын
@@Militaryarmschannel I've been following you since the early days (before ACR vs SCAR, for example) and I still love the intro.
@TheFullNeilson4 жыл бұрын
The 6.5 has a higher ballistic coefficient but is actually less aerodynamic. (: The ballistic coefficient is the mass of the projectile combined with its fluid dynamics. These things combined allow you to determine the efficiency of a bullet. The ratio of mass and fluid dynamics is what makes the 6.5 bullet more efficient. That is because the extra mass of the 6.5 bullet more than make up for its lack of fluid dynamics. For example if you took 150 grain .223 projectile and a 150 grain 6.5 Creedmoor projectile, assuming they have the same basic shape just a difference in diameter the .223 is going to have a significantly high ballistic coefficient. I suspect you already know all this but at 8:00 minutes you offer an explanation to why the .223 is losing velocity faster than the 6.5 bullet. You say it is due to the reduced ballistic coefficient which is correct but then you say less aerodynamic which is incorrect. The ratio of mass of in the .223 is why it is losing when compared to the 6.5 not the aerodynamics. Again you probably already understand this but many of your viewers might not. Another great video and you are spot on with everything else. Have a nice day.
@hitfirstandhithard19813 жыл бұрын
Amazing! One of the best channels in this range!)
@user-uy7dp7ww3h8 ай бұрын
That is incredible considering I currently live in the area of all of the most ammo depleted state, Florida. But nonetheless I, being of sound mind and lever action , do enjoy the improvement on the upper 500 yard target perimeter longevity extension gives me a reach out and touch from sat the least 750 yard success rate
@BsChoy4 жыл бұрын
Just built my first grendel. Looking forward to hunting with it
@frankdamsy97154 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't understand why the Grendel isn't more popular in countries that limit you on the number of guns you can own. It's the perfect jack of all trades rifle cartridge.
@hb9145 Жыл бұрын
We already have 6.5x55.
@voiceofreality97413 жыл бұрын
Just built 4 6.5 Grendel as it as the only ammo I could find at present.. What a surprise!!! Wind buster and accurate too! I found some 6.5 Grendel barrels stainless with 5R 1:8 and they shoot consistent .7 MOA even when hot-- Bench and it is controllable and easily shoots offhand dead on.. BTW, offhand is what I needed - quick shoulder to shoot for warry game.. that will not wait for a set up shot !! go figure..
@thomaswall42855 ай бұрын
Hello, It is great to see this round doing so well in the AR platform as I would like to get an upper for this application, so thanks for this today and great shooting. Wishing you and your shoulder the best, :)
@TroyPosey4 жыл бұрын
Tim, it’s about time you jumped on the 6.5 Grendel train. Welcome to the club. 👍🏻 Once you go 6.5G, there is no going back. 🤘🏻
@TroyPosey4 жыл бұрын
6.8 SPC has been a joke since the beginning... Who wants to shoot a ballistically-inferior .277 caliber bullet in a case this small? 6.5 Grendel is the innovator, the rest are imitators. 👍🏻 Also, built my most recent 6.5G over 6 years ago, and haven’t had an issue. 👍🏻
@TroyPosey4 жыл бұрын
Eugene Stoner How many bolt lugs have you personally cracked? How many have you seen in person with your own 2 eyes as it happened? Have you ever even owned or shot a 6.5 Grendel? I didn’t think so. 😏 For the record, it was the original type-1 chambers and bolts that had an issue, the standard for the last 10 years has been the Type-2, and it doesn’t have these issues unless you buy cheap or foreign-made parts. If you buy American-made, you shouldn’t have any issues. Don’t be a fanboy douchebag that THINKS he knows everything based on hear-say, secondhand knowledge, and internet posts. 👍🏻
@TroyPosey4 жыл бұрын
Gs Xr - 🤣😂🤣 I will never kneel before any man or company. And I damn sure will never to Hornady or their marketing bullshit and lies. This cartridge will be dead and forgot by the masses in less than 5 years. Only small niche circles will still even know what it is. The 6.5 Grendel will always remain superior.
@TroyPosey4 жыл бұрын
Gs Xr - Not to sound conceited, but you don’t have a clue who I am, and that’s cool, but trust me, I know EXPONENTIALLY more about cartridges, cartridge design, and ballistics than your average guy. You’re not gonna fool me. And you’re incredibly wrong about the greater MV leading to greater downrange velocity, because there about a dozen different factors that play into that factor, not just your MV. You obviously have zero clue about what you’re talking about. It’s 100% obvious now. So, please, go spread your misinterpreted fanboy regurgitations somewhere else. 👍🏻 Your posts remind me of that old saying... “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance...Baffle them with bullshit...”
@TroyPosey4 жыл бұрын
Gs Xr - You forgot to include bullet weight into that calculation... Something every 6mm naturally lacks compared to the .257 & 6.5mm projectiles. Therefore just because of the slightly higher velocity & roughly comparable BC, does not mean the cartridge can compete at longer ranges beyond the 6.5 Grendel. 👍🏻
@metaller_alex4 жыл бұрын
I tried 6.8 mag for 6.5G once, it gave me feeding issues. Went back to 6.5 mags and happy.
@ds68724 жыл бұрын
Ive had good luck with 7.62x39 AR mags
@derbsmcbergs3 жыл бұрын
E-landers. Have had 0 issues with them. The 10 rnd 6.5 Stoner mags tho have given me some problems. Work ok-ish (123g pills).,
@shermdog69694 жыл бұрын
Took an antelope this year @423 yard with my 6.5 Grendel last year. Fantastic round.
@kevinizatt43584 жыл бұрын
When I got my grendel it made me a weirdo for using this round no one had heard of, now i feel like saying "welcome to the party" to a lot of 6.5 G newbies.
@CannibalWarthog3 жыл бұрын
$3.75 per round 💀💀💀💀
@hansshaffer37884 жыл бұрын
Mk262 beats the Grendel in terms of bullet drop, though the Grendel does beat it in terms of energy on target and wind-bucking at extended ranges.
@Erockp59154 жыл бұрын
Think I may have found another caliber to throw on the wish list, thanks for the vid Tim, great as always
@Militaryarmschannel4 жыл бұрын
If you get one I think you'll be impressed.
@b4goutdoors8614 жыл бұрын
@@Militaryarmschannel what are the best mags for grendel?
@garrytalley80092 жыл бұрын
I have a couple of 6.5 Grendel's. I built them to give my grandson a little more range than the 300 Black Out I was letting him deer hunt with. His shots were getting longer, and I wanted to give him a better point-blank range. Great little cartridge. I reload all the calibers I have. I would never shoot that cheap Wolf steel cased ammo in anything I own. Brass cases will never damage anything not so with steel. You can reload brass and reload them with good bullets that will outshoot that cheap Wolf stuff at less the price than the wolf ammo with the brass cases once you have them. Having said that my grandson has moved up to higher powered bolt guns for hunting now. I would not use a 6.5 Grendel when hunting for large bucks. Easy on a bad shoulder but you really need great shot placement on the larger bucks.
@borkwoof6964 жыл бұрын
Really wish 6mm Grendel became more popular
@lantzfamilyadventures58454 жыл бұрын
Definitely have to agree with that. .243 has some great bullet choices and the speeds you can achieve from the platform make it a very flat shooter.
@Paelorian4 жыл бұрын
You know what you're talking about. Best external ballistics from an AR-15 and powerful enough yet manageable (a definite step above 5.56mm). Best do-anything gun? Double the range of your AR-15 without majorly impacting close-range performance. Since manufacturers of 7.62x39 can cheaply produce Grendel ammo, if it caught on we'd have cheap 6mm Grendel. The cartridge would be very versatile. Take it to a class and clear rooms with cheap inaccurate ammo, then switch to better ammo and go long outdoors. And you could easily hunt smaller deer with it, similar to .243 Winchester.
@58harwood4 жыл бұрын
It’s getting ready too! Hornady just SAAMI’ d the “6 ARC”. It’s basically a necked down Grendel. Should be coming out soon.
@borkwoof6964 жыл бұрын
58harwood wow I didn’t know that was Hornady!
@Ethan-oq2ds4 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely neat for sure but I’m already so invested in 5.56 and don’t wanna support another caliber 😂
@Hey_you_______x4 жыл бұрын
@Ben Woodcock the meat and potatoes, to put it another way. ...it is lunchtime yet?
@theaveragewoodsman60024 жыл бұрын
Exactly! 6.5 Grendel cost more, it's not nearly as available and just doesn't make sense if someone has already invested in 5.56. Also, 6.5 Grendel isn't as reliable as 5.56 in the AR platform.
@talkingrock70114 жыл бұрын
My Grendel functions as good as 556 and it’s easy to reload
@ChristopherKnN4 жыл бұрын
I haven't fired a 223 round since I built my Grendel upper. It is so superior in every way. I've not had any function issues. 30 cal can works great on it. And I reload so I don't care about ammo prices.
@Ethan-oq2ds4 жыл бұрын
Chris Kauffman That’s understanding. I ain’t against people having the cartridge by any means. Just personally I’m already invest into certain cartridges and really just wanna stick with what I got
@MrRudeDog1003 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that builds ARs for a living, and when he goes hunting for pigs or deer, he carries one lower and two uppers. One upper is the 300BO for areas with limited ranges, out to 150 to 200 yards, and the other is a 6.5G for areas with shots available over 200 yards.
@nicholasjoseph90624 жыл бұрын
That karthunk sound is so satisfying.
@michaelblacktree4 жыл бұрын
yes it is
@TommyboyGTP4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see more 6mm cartridge development for the AR-15 platform. I feel like it's an overlooked opportunity
@bracoop22 жыл бұрын
6mm arc is amazing
@michaelcervantez3570 Жыл бұрын
6 ARC 😍
@nateaggie Жыл бұрын
6 ARC fills that, but there is a neighboring caliber that is neglected and there is opportunity for a good cartridge to come in and be successful: the 257 caliber. It could be a sweet spot between ARC and Grendel.
@Man-jf6lz4 жыл бұрын
6.5 Grendel should be the standard military dmr round.
@crackbot4 жыл бұрын
USASOC got its big brother, the 6.5 creedmoor
@lemminglobber18544 жыл бұрын
Looks like a 6.5 will be the new standard fo US mil. @crackbot says Creedmoor, I'm not educated enought on the subject to yay or nay that one. Makes sense though. Also a .338 machine gun seems to be in the works. So yay for that!
@legbiter14624 жыл бұрын
Crackbot Yeah but the MRAD is in 308, 300 Norma and 338 Norma. That’s for all SOCOM. 5.56 is a great round that gets an undeservedly bad rep.
@Matteo_4 жыл бұрын
@@gsxr1189 Sorry that is incorrect. A DMR can be with an intermediate round. And considering the DMR that was being fielded when I was in was a 556 using the 77gn. Also, that bit about the 6.5 Grendel not having military adoption is incorrect as well. It was adopted a few years back.
@Matteo_4 жыл бұрын
@450/400 Man Our military looked at it several years ago for that purpose. It was passed over because at that time the military did not like the proprietary steel required of the bolt to ensure their specification for round count life. That said the Serbian military did adopt it for that role about 3 or 4 years ago. And are in the process of adopting it for widespread/general purpose usage. IIRC their new 6.5 Grendel service rifle (AK variant) is the M17. Which is why there is an affordable steel case option available through Wolf and Barnaul. And why there is a growing interest in 6.5 Grendel AK's
@devildog32464 жыл бұрын
I own 5.56, .300 Blk, .450 BM, 25-45 Sharps, and .350 Legend. My favorite Ar-15 chambering is the 6.5 Grendel. Everything for home defense, long range shooting, and hunting. It's an absolute winner. It hits hard and is silly accurate, (I've shoot my 18" out to 800m so for.). It also helps that a bulk can of Hornady American Gunner 123 gr cost about the same as American Gunner .223 55 gr. There's nothing it really can't do.
@Chadwick8053 жыл бұрын
You have indeed persuade me to now try the 6.5 Grendel thank you very much my friend
@mikehines1674 жыл бұрын
The only negative I've heard about so far is it possibly having a weaker bolt face due to it being thinner. Any thoughts on that?
@crashdsnowman1 Жыл бұрын
If you reload you can increase velocity over the 6.8 factory rounds. The 6.8 barrels that have 6 grooves and lands do not have the correct bore area per SAAMI spec so make sure you buy a 5R, 4 groove or 3R barrel that allows you to reload to higher performance levels. You can reload to get 2700fps out of 110gr bullets and a 16" barrel, the 120s can hit 2600 out of a 16" barrel. H335 powder. A Grendel shoots 123s out of a 16" at apx 2400fps, the 6.8 can beat that by apx 200fps.
@handlebullshit4 жыл бұрын
When comparing data like this, why not put both charts up side by side?
@FullSendPrecision4 жыл бұрын
Because a heavy 77/80 gr 223 bullet is better than a 123g Grendel. The 80g will have much less drop and less wind shift. The advantage the 6.5g has at 1000 yards is 401 vs 327ft lbs of energy.
@JJGuccione3 жыл бұрын
Great VDO as always - Great hunting cartridge. But, I opted for a PWS MK116 MOD 2-M -Caliber: 7.62x39 Gas Piston. I also stripped all the military junk off a ghost SKS and have its weight down to 7.7 (no ammo). I'm not knockin' this VDO - simply providing other alternatives to hunting with military rifles both old and newer. As you can attest, I few years ago I could have said the SKS was an economical hunting alternative but for what they cost today, probably better to stick with an AR-15 platform.
@jjsemperfi4 жыл бұрын
Just finished my Grendel build. Aero Precision with BA 20" barrel and my Form 1 can. Love it so far. I'm getting .60" MOA at 100 yards. I was smacking my 12x18" steel at 650 and 750 yards with ease. Fun little cartridge.
@gluemola4 жыл бұрын
You left out the most important information. Does it 80's hip fire?
@michaelblacktree4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that 6.8 SPC vs 6.5 Grendel comparo.
@highpower30064 жыл бұрын
The 6.5 Grendel is the first new cartridge on the market that has prompted me to build an AR in a different caliber than 5.56. I just finished building my 6.5 Grendel AR15 and only lack my scope mounts (on order) before I can take it out and see what it will do. It looks much the same as the one you feature in your video including the suppressor. I started this project a few months back with the intention of shopping the various online sales to see if I could build a quality rifle on a budget and it came in at just under a grand, less optic and suppressor.
@raptor660cc14 жыл бұрын
6.5 grendel is far from a "new" cartridge
@highpower30064 жыл бұрын
@@raptor660cc1 True, however I tend to warm up slowly to new rounds as I have seen many that were were touted as all that and a bag of chips when they were first released and then they fade away. It wasn't until a few months ago I had an opportunity to shoot a friends AR in 6.5 Grendel and I decided that I wanted one. Probably going to mostly be used as a long range target rifle with a few squirrels thrown in for good measure.
@LowProOperator10 ай бұрын
A buddy of mine reload 65 Grendel and just did a 20 inch AR build and can consistently hit at 1000 yards. He talked me into it. With a nice 20 power scope you’ll have me one built for about 700. The upper, of course, not including a lower. And his handloads call for about $.70 a pop.
@MartyBugg4 жыл бұрын
Don't overlook other great options like 350 Legend and Bill Wilson's excellent 300 HAM'R. There are lots of great choices for the AR-15 today. At my shop the 300 HAM'R has been a top seller and the results from the field have been spectacular on game including mountain sheep and 400+ lb hogs. Word spread and sales took off.
@duranbailiff5337 Жыл бұрын
Barty Mugg- we have a a couple of 350 LGDs in bolt actions and really appreciate what they do. At reasonable ranges, the Tree-fiddy is an an excellent example of ingenuity! Ultra-Mega-MAGA
@SlavicCelery4 жыл бұрын
I feel like 6.5 Grendal is an upgrade over 5.56 and .223. I'm less impressed with .224 Val and 6.8SPC.
@derbsmcbergs3 жыл бұрын
@@gsxr1189 Explain exactly what 6mm ARC does that 107/108g Grendel pills don't except load 120-130 grain pills when you want? That and also only having 1 company make brass for it.
@liberty43922 ай бұрын
Someday I would like to get a 6.5 x 39 Grendel for a secondary longer range AR-15. AR-15 firing 7.62 x 39 shines inside of 275 to 300 yards. 6.5 x 39 allows for longer range shots in the AR-15 platform.
@charleshaynes8154 жыл бұрын
I have a 24” barrel AR and an 18” barrel AR. 6.5 Grendel they are great
@Minuteman4Jesus4 жыл бұрын
I'M PRAYING FOR YOUR SPEEDY RECOVERY, AND YOUR SHOULDER GETS BACK TO 100%!
@Militaryarmschannel4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mikehines1674 жыл бұрын
I hear Motrin and water works miracles :) Just kidding, sir. Get better soon!
@johndilday18464 жыл бұрын
Military Arms Channel I managed to injure both my right and left shoulders at different times through the years....each time resulted in the necessity to have reconstruction surgery. It sucked to be laid up for so long, but was worth it in the long run because afterwards my shoulders were completely healed and about as good as new (after rehab, of course). The trick is finding a skilled surgeon who will do a good job. Fortunately for me, my wife is a Workman’s Compensation executive, who know all the good surgeons in our area. The last one I used worked on several professional athletes in my area, which told me all I needed to know about his skill. If you can manage to shoot videos ahead to save some for your recovery time, that would keep you visible to your audience. Good luck.
@ericwilson54534 жыл бұрын
@@johndilday1846 and the rehab is equally as important. I know guys who tapped out on rehab and have limited motion/issues to this day.. and my boss got his rotator cuff repaired last winter, but he pushed through the rehab. Better than ever.
@delta3two3 жыл бұрын
@@johndilday1846 How old are you John ? While your skeletal injuries are "fixed" for now wait until you age to 60+ ! Chances are every bone-related injury will come back to haunt you. Courtesy of good ol' arthritis. Remember....nothing is good as original equipment. Best of luck on your healing. Enjoy the great healthcare you have had.