[GL][T-105] Conrail Quality SD70 & Oakway Leasing SD60.. Two True Blue Legacies of Railroading..

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Trains21

Trains21

5 жыл бұрын

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627 - Hallstead (Dragging Equipment Detector)
629-631 New Milford (Siding)
643 - Kingsley (Dragging Equipment Detector)
648-650 Hop Bottom (10,000 ft. siding)
653 - Nicholson & the Tunkhannock Creek Viaduct
657 - Factoryville
659-661 Dalton (10,000 ft. siding)
662 - Glenburn (Dragging Equipment Detector)
664 - Clark’s Summit
671 - Steamtown Wye (Bridge Sixty)
672 - Taylor Yard (North end)
673 - Taylor Yard (South end)
677 - (Dragging Equipment Detector)
679 - Dupont Junction (End Sunbury Line, begin River Line)
692 - Buttonwood (Dragging Equipment Detector)
697-699 Hanover (10,000+ ft. Siding)
701 - Retreat State Hospital
706 - Mocanaqua (Dragging Equipment Detector)
714-716 Nescopeck (7,800 ft. siding)
722 - (Dragging Equipment Detector - Hot Bearing Detector)
741 - (Dragging Equipment Detector)
750 - Banks (6,400 ft. siding)
752 - CP Kase (this is where the River Line joins the Norfolk Southern Buffalo line to Harrisburg and Enola.)

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@ddblink02
@ddblink02 3 жыл бұрын
Conrail ordered 30 additional SD80MAC's just before the split. EMD would not allow the order to be cancelled, but allowed NS and CSX to change the type of unit delivered. 15 SD70MAC's for CSX and 24 SD70's for NS. The additional units made up for the lower cost of both types of unit. There were only four SD60MAC's ever built, and were owned by EMD. They demonstrated on BN primarily, and were painted in a quasi BN scheme.
@bluehappyscrap
@bluehappyscrap 3 жыл бұрын
AWESOME!!!😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁
@calvingrondahl1011
@calvingrondahl1011 4 жыл бұрын
AC you are fun to listen to... honest insights and excellent video.
@Trains21
@Trains21 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Calvin.. I'm glad you enjoy them.. Just learned, you also had the WP out there in Ogden. Cool.
@3006USMC
@3006USMC 5 жыл бұрын
Your odd and ends info is priceless and the NARROWS pacing trains is just down right BADASS !! Keep up the great work.🇺🇸
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marine.. From an Air Force man I enjoy having you chime in.. Semper Fi.
@fritzd2116
@fritzd2116 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, that pacing shot in the Narrows was sweet! I can't imagine being that close to a train at track speed. Very cool.
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
I know right.. But, I've done it!!
@tom-and-mom
@tom-and-mom 5 жыл бұрын
Pacing trains in that area is not common, because I'm better at chasing a northbound NS freight with the Norfolk & Western heritage unit. I didn't notice pacing trains around the NS Southern Tier.
@tom-and-mom
@tom-and-mom 5 жыл бұрын
Starring: NS #8103 (ES44AC) "Norfolk / Western Heritage"
@cbgadget4740
@cbgadget4740 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, locomotive history was quite interesting. That 7 locomotive lash up was as the kids say “the bomb” Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍😎😎😎 Cary
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Gadget.. Yeah, that was something to see.. AND HEAR.. Funny thing is that we caught that train by accident as we were on our way home!!
@shnimmuc
@shnimmuc 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Great video. Saw 4014 Big Boy in it`s shakedown yesterday unbelievable.
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
I'll bet.
@jbrat4313
@jbrat4313 5 жыл бұрын
Nice... the narrows is really the narrows.. I almost reached out to touch the NS Heritage Norfolk and Western... wow👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah right!! It's something else isn't it!!
@afleetcommand
@afleetcommand 5 жыл бұрын
Another excellent and very interesting video, love the history of both you and the NS..:)
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fleet Commander!
@dwayneday2895
@dwayneday2895 3 жыл бұрын
Thank for the tip Oakland leasing
@williamflowers7927
@williamflowers7927 4 жыл бұрын
Trains 21 is awesome💞💞💞💞💞
@SantaFe19484
@SantaFe19484 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Santa Fe!
@netovalvesneto
@netovalvesneto 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video!!
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Neto!!
@fritzd2116
@fritzd2116 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder why NS initially down-rated their Dash -9s? Fuel economy, perhaps?? I always thought it was odd that they did that when other railroads bought hundreds upon hundreds of the same loco rated at the full 4400hp. Another great video, AC.I really like all the information you provide. 👍🏻
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fritz.. I think you got the answer right.. It always comes down to $$$$$.. I thought it was odd too.
@BlackDiamondProductions
@BlackDiamondProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Nice photos and the no scanner thing that’s how I watched trains for about 10 years of my life
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Cool.. But get one though if you haven't already.. They're very helpful to have around.
@BlackDiamondProductions
@BlackDiamondProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Trains21 I do have one now
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackDiamondProductions Haha!! Nice!!
@cacline72
@cacline72 4 жыл бұрын
I remember those Oakways on the BNSF back in the mid to late 2000s.
@Trains21
@Trains21 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, me too.. Thanks for watching.
@iusetano
@iusetano 5 жыл бұрын
The very first MAC's were SD60MAC's. I think there were four of them as demonstrators. BN took them as part of there 300 unit purchase of SD70MAC's. I think these four were upgraded to SD70MAC specs. Great presentation. Excellent video AC. That cab on the CN was a Draper Taper. They were boxier in shape.
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hans for shedding some additional light on all of that.. I miss the CN wide cabs and wide bodys.. I miss the 20th century.
@iusetano
@iusetano 5 жыл бұрын
@@Trains21 I remember the 20th century. I didn't get a chance to do much rail fanning. Life happens. SD60MAC's had 710 prime movers at 3800hp. Those four were up grade to the 4300hp versions.
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
@@iusetano Cool.. Thanks for providing that little nugget of golden info.. I am sorry that you couldn't/didn't do much railfanning in yester years but you're always welcome aboard this way-back machine as we re-live some of the gold ol' days.
@tom-and-mom
@tom-and-mom 5 жыл бұрын
Oh! These Conrail Quality painted SD70's are my favorite engines in this video. I did not note the SD60MAC's on NS. On Canadian National's shops, the draper tapers are too bad for me. I ended up taping the old CN units later on, but I have no idea why do we chase trains because they are so fast when I ended at a dead end close by. The day never ends, but I did not see a dead end anywhere. That reminds me! If you're lucky, then Super Mario Maker 2 arrives on Nintendo Switch on June 28th, 2019. Of course, if you have a Nintendo Switch at home along with Super Mario Maker 2 (available on 6/28), you have to experience new, improved features, including more new game styles like Super Mario 3D World in some cases, using slopes, new background styles for your courses, snake blocks, swapping from Mario to Luigi, adding water to the course (while not set to Underwater), and more. Also, I like the ability to chase trains, but not sure what the train ID is on which you're pacing? Give me an answer, please!
@jim874
@jim874 5 жыл бұрын
This is a cool series format... love to listen to your stories. Even though I am a Amateur Radio operator, and have two meter handhelds out the wazoo, and I have even programmed one of them f or the railroad frequencies in addition to the local ham repeaters, I seldom carry the thing.. So most of the time it's by luck that I see a train. There is ALWAYS a train or two on the rail bridge ( CSX?) across the Ohio, just north of the Brent Spence I75/71 bridge in Cincinnati. Unfortunately I can only get a quick glimpse of the rail traffic since my traffic is going across a very narrow , 5 lane double deck bridge at 55-70 mph with cars / semi trucks are trying to change lanes and are accelerating at the same time. This is where 71 and 75 will merge southbound until they diverge at about 20 miles south in Northern Kentucky ( "THE SPLIT") Not rail fan friendly !
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, I know that road/highway very well.. Been across that bridge many times.. Thanks for chiming in and sharing your own experiences.
@grandchungus173
@grandchungus173 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know the specifications for the sd60mac by any chance oh and great vid
@animenut69
@animenut69 5 жыл бұрын
Used to see those blue/ white leasers powering bn coal trains here in st.louis.
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Cool!! Those must be some memories! Thanks for sharing.
@richkeeshan9757
@richkeeshan9757 5 жыл бұрын
Yeeezus that's close at 6:08!!!
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is!
@tommytemplar1335
@tommytemplar1335 5 жыл бұрын
The susquehanna engines were just spotted on Railstream's Shenandoah junction cam, they have a clip of it!!
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Cool!! I'll check it out.. What's the link??
@tommytemplar1335
@tommytemplar1335 5 жыл бұрын
Its on their youtube but ill find it for you
@tommytemplar1335
@tommytemplar1335 5 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eL6GoZeiq669kqM.html
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
@@tommytemplar1335 Thanks!!
@dylanruppert4547
@dylanruppert4547 5 жыл бұрын
in the pic the second unit is either one of CNs GP38-2Ws or GP40-2Ws
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dylan.. I'm told that it's a 40 but I think that it's a 38.
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 5 жыл бұрын
NS de rated their dash-9s for better horsepower distribution and fuel efficiency, believe that was the CSX thought as well
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, thanks for sharing.
@railyardfilms6491
@railyardfilms6491 5 жыл бұрын
Conrail ns unit have been showing in California around me
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Really!?.. In 2019??
@afleetcommand
@afleetcommand 5 жыл бұрын
So all those NYS&W were leased units? Watched them go back and forth thru Cortland for a decade. Then they lost a couple. Now mixed flag units are the norm.
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if they're leased.. It was my impression that they were bought outright but I could be wrong of course.
@paullindberg9230
@paullindberg9230 2 жыл бұрын
as..a former brakeman..working. For Conrail New Jersey divison. Selkirk to. Newark..on the extra.
@proudfoamer2
@proudfoamer2 5 жыл бұрын
I believe CN bought a large block of the former OAKWAY SD60'S several years ago. They rebuilt and repainted them, but I can't remember what # series they put them in, but they are definitely still out there earning revenue.
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John.. Yeah, you're right.. I forgot about those.. I have to check to see which ones I have.
@greggoldthorpe1392
@greggoldthorpe1392 5 жыл бұрын
The CN units were numbered in the 5400 series, GF-638c
@tom-and-mom
@tom-and-mom 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg!
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 5 жыл бұрын
I remember GATX had some too if I’m not mistaken, they just marked out the EMD logos used to see those in the yard near me, usually with a NS Dash 9 and a long cut of top gon hoppers
@martindoyle831
@martindoyle831 4 жыл бұрын
60 of them where purchased by CN and #in the 5400 series
@Trains21
@Trains21 4 жыл бұрын
OK thanks
@grandchungus173
@grandchungus173 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know the specs of the sd60mac they sounds very interesting btw great vid👍🏽👌🏽
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
All I can tell you is that they were similar to their predecessor 3600 hp SD50 but much improved on with 3800 hp.
@grandchungus173
@grandchungus173 5 жыл бұрын
Trains21 ah ok thanks for the info
@3StepTDC
@3StepTDC 5 жыл бұрын
Second unit was a CN GP40-2W
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tyler.. You have a sharp eye!!
@3StepTDC
@3StepTDC 5 жыл бұрын
Lol no problem, Sometimes I think I know my CN loco’s better than my NS ones. Great video AC!
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
I know right!! Thanks, Man.
@railfan_bman
@railfan_bman 2 жыл бұрын
CSX’s dash 9’s used to be classified as C44-8W’s
@Trains21
@Trains21 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that info.
@martindoyle831
@martindoyle831 4 жыл бұрын
2nd unit is a GP40-2WL
@Trains21
@Trains21 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin
@edwardcostello8833
@edwardcostello8833 3 жыл бұрын
Materials that water materials in going down the sluice boxes Fred's plan Freddy coming out here my nephew Kendall he started to mine gold with a friend of his friend they got themselves in one hell of a mess we just got another fabricator all his tools come in a good guy I told us for free but when you guys get up first thing I want those, all the other stuff out
@lehl_railfan5325
@lehl_railfan5325 4 жыл бұрын
BN got 4 SD60MACs demo units but then made the decision to get 350 SD70macs
@Trains21
@Trains21 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that info.
@1992cdwilliams
@1992cdwilliams Жыл бұрын
BN did have SD60MACs
@paulsartorello836
@paulsartorello836 Жыл бұрын
The 2nd loco is not a Draper taper.. it’s got the radiator wings at the back and railings all the way down the side
@railyardfilms6491
@railyardfilms6491 5 жыл бұрын
Cn proud units
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@ironhorsemedia2881
@ironhorsemedia2881 5 жыл бұрын
I believe UP had sd60macs as well Name a locomotive and UP probably had it
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Cool.. Thanks for pointing that out.
@ironhorsemedia2881
@ironhorsemedia2881 5 жыл бұрын
Trains21 and BN
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
@@ironhorsemedia2881 Yep.. Knew about BN.
@importednascar
@importednascar 5 жыл бұрын
And now the SD70's are being rebuilt into SD70ACC's.
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
That's right.
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 5 жыл бұрын
Rip standard cabs
@EasternCoastProductions
@EasternCoastProductions 5 жыл бұрын
OWY 9047 > EMDX 9047 > CN 5471
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Man.. I've caught at least 2 CN SD60s so I'll have to see if either of their numbers match.
@EasternCoastProductions
@EasternCoastProductions 5 жыл бұрын
@@Trains21 No problem. Have you checked out my video of me pacing 25Z this past summer?
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Not yet, but I will shortly.. Thanks.
@CoopsTrains
@CoopsTrains 5 жыл бұрын
All CSX are ES40DCs No ES44DCs exist in CSX
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input.. But I never said that CSX had ES44DCs.. I said that an ES40DC is a de-rated 44DC.. Just like the NS D9-40CW was a de-rated D9-44CW.
@CoopsTrains
@CoopsTrains 5 жыл бұрын
I was just letting you know AC, you said in the video if any CSX fans knew if they beefed them back up to 4400 just letting you know that they didn’t with any of them :)
@Trains21
@Trains21 5 жыл бұрын
@@CoopsTrains Understood.. And my true apology if I mistook your intention.. But please understand that I'm constantly being bombarded with snarky comments from railroad puritans who misconstrue my words and then try to lecture me about them.. By all means, I look forward to hearing more of your knowledge.
@CoopsTrains
@CoopsTrains 5 жыл бұрын
Btw I’m loving the old pics And the frequent posting Keep it up!!! 😁
@CoopsTrains
@CoopsTrains 5 жыл бұрын
My man I get those same snarky people :/ I understand what you mean by that, I find it very aggravating, but I REALLY love your videos Keep it up!! :)
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