Glidecam DGS vs. DJI Ronin 3-Axis Stabilizer

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Stefan Czech

Stefan Czech

Күн бұрын

In times where the 3axis handheld gimbal are everywhere, Stefan wants to see how the DJI Ronin holds up against the new Davin Graham Signature Series from Glidecam. This is a comparison between this two systems in preparing, operating and pro and cons.
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Thanks to Thomas Piper and Sabine Czech for the camerawork.

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@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Hi folks...short note after less than 24h, 1300 views and 20 comments: Thank you all for your reply. I appreciate that. And its a bit funy, that some criticize my Ronin shots ;-) Of couse, I can handle my Glidecam better. But this was NOT my point. I want to show there are still some good reasons for the Glidcam systems: Camerasize, preptime, run&gun shooting style, the "look"....he watch my film. Enjoy your day, be nice, and keep filming Cheers Stefan
@hurtfilms654
@hurtfilms654 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Czech Great video, what lens do you recommend for my GH$ for wide shots like you did filming the automobiles. thanks in advance
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+MouseyMusic there are some nice wide lenses out there for the GH4. Take a look at the new Olympus
@foundjensen1867
@foundjensen1867 7 жыл бұрын
Hey can you use the glidecam one handed? Becoz I know that the gimbal can which is a huge benefit as I sometimes cycle or skate while filming
@WarpedLab
@WarpedLab 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for shining light on this subject !!, i love technology and i have used both, the stedicam for me is the best all around, predictable, no batteries, no stand. stedicam for me feels and looks natural and organic, the shots from the gimbal based systems look and feel robotic to me. Thanks again for making this video.
@hotsticker2256
@hotsticker2256 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for creating this comparison review! It's so helpful!
@mattsta1640
@mattsta1640 8 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Great explanation of pros ad cons to both systems, and a nice unbiased talk about what you like about both. Thank you so much for making this video.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mattsta 1, I really appreciate that. Cheers Stefan
@alphavisualsnz
@alphavisualsnz 6 жыл бұрын
Personally I found that in this the Ronin shots were terrible. They were bumpy and not smooth. I know that the Ronin is actually much better than that from experience but i feel like this shows the Ronin to be worse than i really is
@Rice-EChickenGaming
@Rice-EChickenGaming 6 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos sir , i just got my DGS Glide Cam and thanks your videos im learning to correct way to use the system. Thank you Stefan .
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 6 жыл бұрын
Damion Supersaad thanks for you comment. Keep training and make cool films
@HAPfilm
@HAPfilm 8 жыл бұрын
Hi mate Thanks a lot for your great review and give us in-depth details of both units I was in a point of buying a Ronin M and right now I am considering the Glidecam. Many many thanks again
@richardantonio2904
@richardantonio2904 7 жыл бұрын
This is an eye opener Thank you bro. The review that you made is more realistic one. keep it up and more power.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Bluerthanlou
@Bluerthanlou 8 жыл бұрын
Great video stefan thanks for granting our request!
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bluerthanlou...hope it helps
@Raychristofer
@Raychristofer 8 жыл бұрын
Outstanding review my man it's so hard to find quality an informative reviews on KZfaq that answer all the questions. too many reviewer is sit at a table 4 for 15 minutes. Doing unboxing's and talking about the product and never take it out doors. Don't change a thing on your channel Bro.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Raychristofer hi, thanks a lot. Most of the people didn´t know how many work you have to put in this kind of video. How many hours of shoting and figereing out what to say and what not. With no word I say anything bad about the Ronin, but people call me "hater". And so I really appreciate when guys like you have fun with it. Cheers Stefan
@juliogranados3615
@juliogranados3615 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all those tutorials for glidecam, helps a lot, im waiting for the next video thaks
@T_Taka
@T_Taka 7 жыл бұрын
Great comparison and review!! Thank you so much for this seriously!
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Toshi, you are welcome
@thebridescinema-ottawawedd1630
@thebridescinema-ottawawedd1630 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stefan. Enjoyed watching
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+The Bride's Cinema Thanks... Cheers Stefan
@tptrsn
@tptrsn 8 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos like this, thanks!!!
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks...good to hear
@garagetvusa5550
@garagetvusa5550 8 жыл бұрын
Stefan, thank you for showing the difference in both systems, you are correct learn the equipment first. As a TV station we always have our guys trying to make us buy the latest toy. But as you proved here the DGS Glidecam still is a very good tool. Thanks.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Garage TV USA ...you are very welcome
@henryg8295
@henryg8295 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I currently have the Laing glidecam and I love it! Prefer the shot to a gimble. It just takes practice but when you get good they are in beatable
@LouiVintage
@LouiVintage 8 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing review.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Loul
@GoranStepic
@GoranStepic 8 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, thank you very much for shedding a light on current I would say "hysteria" about the 3-axis gimbals. The glidecam style is the king.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Goran, it's a kind of "hysteria" ;-) Many user didn't know exactly what's possible and what not. What I find very interesting are the comments they concerns my Ronin adjustment. Tell me I didn't do right. But this was not my point.
@tonylouisvisionvideography3469
@tonylouisvisionvideography3469 6 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the organic look of the glidecam. I'm using the Laing P45s Stabilizer at the moment. Will purchase a glidecam later this year. You are a true master of the glidecam. I will keep practicing hard and keep watching your videos. Thanks for the inspiration
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 6 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome
@frismanarmando
@frismanarmando 7 жыл бұрын
on a professional hands, both of them are great!! Salute to you sir.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@GeorgesLgTV
@GeorgesLgTV 8 жыл бұрын
Really nice, Thank you Stefan.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Georges Lg thanks :-)
@VideoMarketingExperts
@VideoMarketingExperts 7 жыл бұрын
Great in depth comparison. Thank you!
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
Video Marketing Experts thanks, you welcome
@simongentry
@simongentry 7 жыл бұрын
ty Stefan - I had watched this before - but after 7 months or so of research and passing my FAA pilots license for commercial drone work, I wanted to come back to review your comparison... which now makes more sense to me as a fashion photographer. it's the fluidity I remember you talking about - I can't imagine shooting stills the way I do if the camera were in a cage - but I can imagine shooting video with a more natural feeling with the glidecam setup. personally I prefer the ABSENCE of software as much as possible between me and the subject!
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Simon. Its always only a tool to tell your story ;-)
@InfiniteFilmes
@InfiniteFilmes 8 жыл бұрын
Lovely review. Thank you so much
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cris ;-)
@jdbrunet
@jdbrunet 8 жыл бұрын
Very thoughtful and helpful review. Thank you so much.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks You are very welcome
@DNesij
@DNesij 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Czech Agreed! One of the best comparison reviews I have seen in a long time. Helped me a lot. Danke! :)
@LadislavVavro
@LadislavVavro 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Czech don´t you need to study the steady cam operator in germany if you want to professionally handle the Glidecam? thanks for the answer
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Ladislav Vavro .do you mean, if I need a lisens for that? No, but I´m a certified Glidecam trainer. To work as an operator, most client take a look on your showreel...or ask how much money you will cost ;-(
@MrChangCJ
@MrChangCJ 8 жыл бұрын
thank you so much. i really thought that the modern gimbals spelt the death of the glidecam! this was very comprehensive.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Hi MrChangCJ, no its not. Its a new tool and its ok for some specific shoots. But as I show here, there are some movement you cant do with this gimbals. So don´t be a "fanboy" ;-) (don´t talk to you) use what fits to your need. Not allways the new stuff is better. Cheers Stefan
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clever comparison...video is full of inforamations.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
You welcome Jakub
@madlough
@madlough 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice review
@matthewjeschke
@matthewjeschke 8 жыл бұрын
Very helpful... Sticking to my glidecam :)
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matthew
@CMOOREDESIGN
@CMOOREDESIGN 8 жыл бұрын
Love this guy!! Accent is great . Well done comparison.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+CMOFOTO Thanks, that a very nice comment. Cheers Stefan
@BrianElliottFilm
@BrianElliottFilm 5 жыл бұрын
I used a gimbal for awhile because I got caught up in the hype and didn't want to learn how to use a glidecam...terrible life choice. I'm now using a glidecam, slowly getting better, and starting to get some fantastic really nice results. Thanks for all your Glidecam Tutorials. They're incredibly helpful and clear.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome
@CodakChris
@CodakChris 5 жыл бұрын
same here
@assai74
@assai74 4 жыл бұрын
I avoided to get trapped in the hype an got a hand on a used hd 2000 in mint condition for 100€ an im stunned by the results. Keep lerning from stefan. Thanks for that amazing tutorial btw!
@angelicrblx5014
@angelicrblx5014 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I am definitely buying the glidecam to shoot my KZfaq videos.
@aerialphoto
@aerialphoto 8 жыл бұрын
great comparison.
@nugenki
@nugenki 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you just convinced me to make the better choice and buy the steadicam instead of a 3 axis gimbal.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Nugenrules The tool for the job. The 3xGimbal are way overhyped ;-)
@PhotoMe99
@PhotoMe99 8 жыл бұрын
agree + they are extremely painful to hold! 3xgimble is just garbage in everyway.
@anil1svnit
@anil1svnit 7 жыл бұрын
See these kinds of detail only an experienced video maker can provide. Thanks for such detailed differences.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Anil
@Airtimevideo
@Airtimevideo 8 жыл бұрын
I own both a Steadicam Pilot and a DJI Ronin. I use both. For some things I love the Ronin because I dont get the side to side movement i get using my steadicam because of operator movement. I totally agree that the Ronin is not as versatile. When I do events I use the Steadicam because I can move and capture shots live with really good results. I use the Ronin when I can really plan and rehearse my shots and get superior results. The Ronin gets really heavy really quick and I have to put it down a lot. All in all for me I just dont use my Ronin enough and am now looking at picking up a Beholder MS1. Oh yeah, I also use an iKan X3-Plus gimbal for iPhone and GoPro and get amazing results. I guess every shot is different and its nice to have the right tool for the job.
@ghostbaum
@ghostbaum 7 жыл бұрын
the only advantage i liked the ronin over the glidecam was that the ronin you can really dial in a perfect horizon line
@NicoBille
@NicoBille 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comparison. And yes, one point here is, that you *can* operate a glidecam, and so I think for many out there the results with a ronin are better from the beginning. But as you say, you have to know how to operate the tools that you have.
@JorgeDourado
@JorgeDourado 8 жыл бұрын
Great review ;) Cheers.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jorge, I appreciate that. Cheers
@PageLynch
@PageLynch 8 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you, Stefan! I'm a DP and have used my Scarlet with a Ronin many times but decided to sell it and buy the new Glidecam DGS. It's just far more fluid and being able to set it down and take a break is a very big deal! Really great review! Thank you!
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Page for your kind words. It's a tool and you have to take what ever fits you. I believe that a lot of Gimabl user try to shortcut the way to learn to smooth move the camera by spend the money on this gadgets. Special the Ronin is fare from the precise operations of the Freefly Movi. And it will keep a different look. Cheers Stefan
@robelbirhanu
@robelbirhanu 7 жыл бұрын
thank you you have cleared up my confusion.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
you are welcome
@DanielScotch
@DanielScotch 8 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy watching your video's but in this comparison It's impossible to compliment the Ronin. When the Ronin operator is not used to the ronin you can see shakyness due inexperience. Ive been working with the Glidecam and the Ronin. And indeed life is more relaxing with an camera support system for the ronin, but when you become one with the Ronin I must say I really have superiorresults with the Ronin. I do love the glidecam, but in the end i gave my heart to the Ronin. It's just another workflow, when youre already used to any kind of glide cam it does takes practice Mastering the Ronin. TNQ for the video !
@universaInformation
@universaInformation 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Scotch don't you see ronin is vibrating?look amauter,steadycam is smooth, that's why high budget holywood movies still using steadicam.
@zinnaalam1886
@zinnaalam1886 5 жыл бұрын
really very helpful video ... thank you so much
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 3 жыл бұрын
you are welcome
@jonposeidon
@jonposeidon 8 жыл бұрын
Superb comparison, very 'balanced' (boom boom). thanks.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Jon Cotton Thanks Jon
@benediktbagger
@benediktbagger 7 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank für den tollen Vergleich, ich bin auch überzeugter Glidecam User.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
Gerne ;-) Immer das Werkzeug das zum Job und geldbeutel passt
@benediktbagger
@benediktbagger 7 жыл бұрын
Vollkommen richtig, dennoch muss ich sagen, dass ich Steady- oder Glidecam-Aufnahmen aufgrund der fluiden Ästhetik immer bevorzugen würde, und das für einen geringeren Preis. Dazu kommen noch die Vorteile eines mechanischen Systems gegenüber der viel anfälligeren Elektronik eines Ronins. Ich habe meine Glidecam bspw. seit 6 Jahren und sie war bei Reisen und Sportaufnahmen extremen Bedingungen ausgesetzt, funktioniert aber noch wunderbar. All-in-all ist die Glidecam für mich der klare Sieger, auch wenn der Ronin für gewisse Produktionen vollkommen legitim ist und den Vorteil hat, dass der 'Operator' die Bedienung schneller erlernt.
@YGharbi
@YGharbi 8 жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer the organic movements of the glidecam.
@PiksarStudio
@PiksarStudio 8 жыл бұрын
good lesson, thanks you for video
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+PiksarStudio you are welcome. Stefan
@hotchi1566
@hotchi1566 8 жыл бұрын
Gldecam DGS is based on mechanics and analogue system. Ronin is based on motor and digital computer system. Personaly, I think Ronin will win finally with upgrade of the system design and control algorithm, just like the digital camera vs. film camera. Digital system is the future, sooner or later.
@hyperfoxstudios
@hyperfoxstudios 8 жыл бұрын
Really appreciating your comparison and that you share it. I also get a little the impression that you have a prejudice against the Ronin. Besides the very well Steadicam work (thumbs up) I miss that moves on the Ronin. Operating a Ronin now for many hours I can state that it's clearly the inexperience in operating it - you can do extremely good shots with it - if you trained enough. But I also know that a Glidecam is not working out of the box, isn't it? :) For sure I agree on the fact that Ronin is some over-hyped and also definitely the Glidecam (Steadycam etc.) is not dead at all... I start making the experience that in some situation the Ronin does a great job, while there are situations I prefer using a Glidecam, or of course other stuff. So if your point was showing that there are still good reasons for a Glidecam, OH YES, DEFINITELY !
@AnandaGarden
@AnandaGarden 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Stefan. Three years later, I imagine lots of those 119 thumbs-down voters are cursing the Bluetooth glitches on their cheap gimbals and lamenting the poor customer support. Meanwhile, the Glidecam users are out there filming unconcerned. BTW, "Motiv" in German translates to "subject" in English - there is no English sound-alike word that means he same as Motiv. Herzlichen Dank aus Kalifornien.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 5 жыл бұрын
runbei Thanks, i really appreciate that
@Awinpictures
@Awinpictures 8 жыл бұрын
like the reveiw ( watching From Kenya)
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Edward...Cheers
@svetolik921
@svetolik921 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Stefan, it is rare to see on the internet such didactic lessons. Thank you for detailed and easy to understand explanations about complex mater. Good old school at its best. As I see there is a problem with horizontal stabilization. All examples that I see with flycam suffering from "loosing horizon" and that looks just like unwanted effect that spoiling whole sequence. Your examples has it too but faraway less than in others that I have seen. Could you be so kind and point out how to control this behavior? Maybe monitor on the bottom with "wider balance" will give better results. Thanks again Regards, Svetolik
@romeshprakashpalan8895
@romeshprakashpalan8895 8 жыл бұрын
Great video comparison. Wish I had watched it before I bought my Ronin-M. The Ronin-M being electronic has a few other issues with fragility. Water splashed briefly on one of the motors and the entire system died. I have to get it serviced and hopefully fixed. This was a beach shoot where I was attempting to be very careful with it. Oh well. Hope it doesn't cost too much $$$ to fix. Anyhow, I just picked up a GlideCam XR-PRO to use while it is being serviced. For less money than one of the gimbal motors is likely to cost me, I have a very smooth stabilization rig. I am very impressed. I love the level of control I get with it that I never got with the Ronin - I was always a slave to the motor speed. In addition, I can monitor much easier with the Glidecam because the monitor from my GH4 is at eye level. It also takes me less time to balance and I have the XR-PRO which isn't even as easy as the DG or the HD series of Glidecams. I am very much enjoying the level of control that I have with this stabilizer. Two thumbs up!
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rom, glad to hear you opinion. Cheers Stefan
@critical
@critical 8 жыл бұрын
What mics are those on the RED..?
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Critical Mic? No microfons on the REDs...;-(
@critical
@critical 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Czech between 03:39 - 03:49 you can see them clearly
@critical
@critical 8 жыл бұрын
Have you found them? ;)
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Critical no, not now. It was not mine but I let you know, when I find out, ok?!
@critical
@critical 8 жыл бұрын
Stefan Czech Yes please :D I appreciate it!!
@bbffilm2514
@bbffilm2514 5 жыл бұрын
You're right. I totally agree . After about 1 year using Ronin S I have come to believe the result footages are too artificial. Now I'm considering to test a glidecam instead .
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 5 жыл бұрын
Its a tool, noting more nothing less
@MarshallBare
@MarshallBare 8 жыл бұрын
I am newer to videography. I tried the GlideCam before purchasing a gimbal similar to the Ronin (which I'll call 'gimbal') and found it very difficult to use as a beginner. I could tell it would take me a LOT of practice to get quality footage using it. On the other hand it took hardly any practice (10 minutes?) to get amazing footage using the gimbal. The camera turning delay you mention is trivial because it is easy to get used to planning a second ahead of time. My gimbal is no problem to place on the ground after turning it off. The only negatives I experience with the gimbal are you do need batteries and it can get heavy after an hour or two of holding it. Maintaining focus is also difficult but you have the same problem with a GlideCam. Otherwise for a beginner the motorized gimbal is wonderful to use without needing a lot of practice.
@jensjordan89
@jensjordan89 8 жыл бұрын
Stefan du machst sehr gute videos :) (y)
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Danke ;-)
@arnoldwidera4649
@arnoldwidera4649 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, which additional equipment do I need for the connection between the Ronin and a monitor sitting on the remote control and how much effort is it to establish this connection technically ? Thank you for your input.
@YoungBlaze
@YoungBlaze 8 жыл бұрын
You sound cool, like somebody that wants to hurt john mclain
@safecribbo
@safecribbo 8 жыл бұрын
Good review... A few points from me, firstly it seams you are a tad brash was the glide can. I would recommend slowing your movements down and make the more cinematic. I shot with glidecam HD4000, DJI ronin and Came TV gimbal. You can get smooth shots on your Ronin, but you can't expect to correct jerky movements. It compliments smooth camera movements. So you need to be just as steady as with your glidecam, but it's heavier! So get a vest if you can afford it and you will get even smoother shots :)
@Falckodotcom
@Falckodotcom 7 жыл бұрын
Mainly because of this video I bought the Davin Graham Signature Series Glidecam and I have to say it is very hard to get decent shots. Although I'm convinced that you can very good shots using a glidecam, but not without a lot of practice. So after months of not using it because I find it too hard to get a decent shot I finally put mine on Ebay and decided to go for a DJI Ronin instead.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
+Auke Valk i m pretty sure that some minor mistakes in balancing and using the DGS are the problems. Did you check out my Glidecam Workshop series? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9Z6lsuYzJfFc3k.html Cheers
@Falckodotcom
@Falckodotcom 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I watched your workshops video's and they are very helpfull. I think, for me, the biggest problem is that I don't use it enough and therefor not getting the experience needed to operate the glidecam. What I'm being told is that it is easier to learn to use the DJI Ronin. Of course when you use the Glidecam enough the result could be better than with the Ronin.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
I never say, that the DGS are better....but different!!! Also the step possibilities and the framing. It's much harder to get the right framing with this 3axe gimbals. Take a look on tausend of KZfaq video with no Pröpper framing. Steady shoots is not the one thing I looking for. Try what ever helps you to tell you story. Cheers
@gereral1_jackofalltrades
@gereral1_jackofalltrades 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought x10 with hd4000. My rig weighs just under 10lbs. Have to order a plate then I can shoot some footage. Finally I can get rig off tripod. Payed 650 bucks for kit. These things use to cost 3-4 grand. Love how gear is now available for pro consumer.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@StreetsOfVancouverChannel
@StreetsOfVancouverChannel 8 жыл бұрын
So this reviewer has worked professionally with GlideCam for many years... and then reviews an augmented/signature model GlideCam versus a DJI Ronin... and *SURPRISESURPRISE* finds that the GlideCam is 'more professional' because it doesn't require a controller or an additional operator... well some people would say that you can get exceedingly unique and one-of-a-kind shots from the DJI Ronin WITH PRACTICE just like the reviewer allaged from the GlideCam with his years of GlideCam familiarity use/experience. This review seems similiar to when a twenty-year use Canon shooter reviews a Sony/Fuji/Olympus camera and finds that the 'interface is not very intuitive'... well of course it isn't because you have twenty-years of 'synaptic muscle memory' honed from the Canon and everything will seem strange/foreign initially after that.
@TRifficVision
@TRifficVision 8 жыл бұрын
+Bruce Bachand My point exactly!:)
@matrodmedia
@matrodmedia 8 жыл бұрын
+Bruce Bachand And at the same time, you appear to sound like the opposite of what you accuse. This will be the type of arguments for the use of camera gear until the end of time. The points he makes are factual, and when opinions are made, it is clear that they are just that: opinions. I think the video is very useful. (Although, I suppose, you didn't necessarily say it wasn't. ) One point that will remain true throughout is that there will be shots/scenes that gimbals are best suited for and shots/scenes that glidecam-types are best suited for. IMO the best thing to do is have both at your disposal. Obviously not practical for every single person, but it is ideal. For me, I prefer doing most walking/jogging type tracking shots with my Glidecam, any operator hand-offs or tracking while riding/hanging out of a car with the Movi (or Ronin, Came-TV, what-have-you, etc.), and finally any ultra-low high-speed tracking shots with a rented Tero. It's so hard to find a "all-in-one" solution, but that goes for anything.
@StreetsOfVancouverChannel
@StreetsOfVancouverChannel 8 жыл бұрын
Having both tools would be brilliant. My critique/comments were specific to the context that I refer to... his other points (as you note) are wholly valid observations... I simply thought that in this one specific regard that he was weak. Happy shooting/filming!
@MarcoJetti
@MarcoJetti 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Stefan! I discovered your tutorials on Glidecam and I love them. I am going to buy a glidecam soon because I prefer it for different reasons compared to Dji. Although I am seriously worried about weight just on one arm. I owned a stabilizer more similar to Merlin style and the weight is ok within a few minutes of use but I am sure with the Glidecam will be much worse. Do you have suggestion on how to solve wrist or arm pain? Are arm vest any good? I noticed you use Glidecam without any help in many of your videos. My camera setup is about 1.8kg. Thank you for any advice.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Marco, thanks for your comment. And yes as I show in episode 7, it makes sense to use a west and arm support if it becomes heavier. 1.8kg might be not much but it depends how long you use it. Cheers
@HAPfilm
@HAPfilm 8 жыл бұрын
Can you please advise how much does it cost you to buy the Glidecam from where?
@TimmyCrackCorn
@TimmyCrackCorn 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this ... I was very excited about the DJI, and was getting the "wants". But not only the things you mentioned, but I also noticed the DJI footage was not nearly as smooth. I noticed it had issues BEFORE viewing the Glidecame footage, in fact. Watch closely, and you can see a shakiness to the DJI footage. It seemed side-to-side mostly ... perhaps it was not 100% calibrated?
@TimmyCrackCorn
@TimmyCrackCorn 8 жыл бұрын
+TimmyCrackCorn PS> Yes, I've seen DJI footage that was very smooth. However, it's always been promo footage, so who knows if it has been processed. This appears to be raw footage.
@montproduction
@montproduction 8 жыл бұрын
+TimmyCrackCorn I have the dji Ronin-m myself the side to side is the operators fault as the gimbal does not stabilize side to side or the up and down motion of a operator walking with this. As he does say he is a steadicam operator and you would expect him to be better with the Glidecam than the ronin. But if you train with the ronin as you would have to do with the glidecam you get better at it and will achieve the shot you want. The benefit of the ronin is that it has a faster learning curve than the glidecam and personally I think it is easier to set up. I have owned a glidecam before but switched it out with the ronin because of convenience. The thing that he does not mention in this is that the ronin also have usb, p-tap and a dji light bridge connector which can power an wireless hdmi or sdi transmitter, to be used with a wireless monitor system and wireless follow focus system that you would have to use on a professional shoot where you have a focus puller. This is something that the glidecam would need an external battery to do.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Anders Montgomery its interesting that most of this comment focusing on the few shots I made with the Ronin and not so much on the many other thinks you can´t do with it ;-) You have to strip down most of the normal cameras to fit into this thing. You can´t run backwards...he why repeat my review...haha: Keep cool even when you think you know it better. Cheers Stefan
@montproduction
@montproduction 8 жыл бұрын
Stefan Czech I do really see your point about the glidecam feeling more natural that you can run backwards with it and can be a better option than the ronin if you know how to operate it but however the ronin is an easyer way for a beginner to get the "steadicam" shot where the camera moves independent of tracks or jibs. And your point is valid how you need to strip down the camera, but this is something a lot of people would do anyway when putting it on a glidecam as well, to try to keep the weight down. I'm sorry that I did not include the other shots, but I tried to explain why you might want to concider the ronin over the glidecam, and the power option and the quick release plate with the rail option on the ronin is something that should be considered as well in this comparison as this makes it easier when it comes to mounting a remote follow focus and a wireless hdmi system.
@TimmyCrackCorn
@TimmyCrackCorn 8 жыл бұрын
+Anders Montgomery I think the ideal situation would be to have a newbie cam operator with little to no experience with either system, try them out, duplicating the same shot with each. Then upload the raw footage. Maybe send the third pass (third attempt) from each. Soooo .... please send me your DJI and Glidecam devices and I'[ll be happy to do it! :D
@zachlevi-rodgers626
@zachlevi-rodgers626 6 жыл бұрын
Like with anything, each device suits a particular purpose and need, some people prefer the ronin others prefer steadicam. Both do a similar job but differently
@MilanKarakas
@MilanKarakas 5 жыл бұрын
There is no "death of the glidecam system".
@WanderlustWonderscape
@WanderlustWonderscape 6 жыл бұрын
Every time Stefan says, "Motiv" think "Subject"
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 6 жыл бұрын
Paul C ...thanks, you are right
@tonylouisvisionvideography3469
@tonylouisvisionvideography3469 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@PolluxChung
@PolluxChung 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video :) This helps me making my decision. I prefer organic looks.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Polluc....that's are good news
@PolluxChung
@PolluxChung 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Czech There were at least 3 times I almost bought a brushless gimbal but end up not doing it is largely due to my "fear" of having the electronics break down right in my face at the worst possible moments.
@legendp2011
@legendp2011 8 жыл бұрын
what about 5 axis systems. I dont mind the shake so much, itss the fact that most test I have seen the framing is off
@SashaLexor
@SashaLexor 8 жыл бұрын
thanx
@ParaLightWorX
@ParaLightWorX 8 жыл бұрын
Sehr gutes Infovideo! Ich finde den look einer glidecam kann man noch nicht elektronisch hinbekommen.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Dance ParaLight. Man muss alles üben keine Frage. Ich wollte nur zeigen, dass der Hype nicht der tot der Steadycam ist
@ParaLightWorX
@ParaLightWorX 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Czech ist dir gut gelungen :)
@CarloPettinella
@CarloPettinella 8 жыл бұрын
How do you do with the C300's big viewer, when you bring up the ronin? Doesn't touch on top?
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Carlo Pettinella no, like the C500, it´s not so easy to mount it on the Ronin. The cables are in the way.
@some______guy
@some______guy 8 жыл бұрын
as a Ronin owner, I can say you are spot on. the look of the videos are just wrong. I haven't been able to put my finger on it. btw, I'm no longer using mine. I think I'm pulling the trigger on selling it right now actually
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply. I want to show that's not so easy as it looks to move the camera even with a 2.500€ electronic tool. Many people didn't have the budget for the high end equipment. So why not give a Gildecam give a try for less half of the price
@dickydesign
@dickydesign 8 жыл бұрын
Glidecam has cool style record:D
@tararoberts404
@tararoberts404 8 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Ronin shots but only when you're moving it slowly. That's how I would use it.
@STUDIO89CH
@STUDIO89CH 6 жыл бұрын
I've used the Ronin M in one of my Videos (Mercedes AMG GTs) and it was easy to get smooth shots. I have an external monitor and a remote for my camera so I can operate my Ronin on my own. The Landing-Gear is attached to my backpack and I am able to build it up with one hand. I can't operate a glidecam. I have one at home but after 2 hours of balancing and 3 hours of running arround its not the tool of choice for me.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 6 жыл бұрын
+RGSGGR-MEDIA hi, if you need 2h of balancing, you really had to have a look at my Glidecam Training series kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9Z6lsuYzJfFc3k.html And the 6 other parts explain how to manage all specifics. Incl. balance in less than a minute. Cheers
@MichaelGreenwoodMG
@MichaelGreenwoodMG 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video thanks
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 2 жыл бұрын
my plesure
@ParisHolmesFilms
@ParisHolmesFilms 7 жыл бұрын
What vest can i get for the Devin Graham glidecam
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, the Glidecam Smooth shooter or the X10
@TechVHD
@TechVHD 8 жыл бұрын
If you shoot at a low f stop with wider aperture how do you keep focus without messing up the stabiliZation?
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Like on all cameras you can't reach wile shooting : wireless focus puller, keep distance to your subject or use the brilliant autofocus on the C100Mark 2. As you see at the scenes from "Haensel" it was AF all the time
@garnel66
@garnel66 8 жыл бұрын
Great review. I've tried the Ronin and its not easy and heavy. Not used a glide cam yet, but going to try soon! Love your hat, what is the make and model? Many tanks Oh its the Devin Graham edition not David
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Gary Nelson thanks,...I know it Devin and you not the firts one ;-) Its a Tilley hat. The oldstyl version, and for the hype one the basecap ;-) Cheers
@LorenzoDeWilder
@LorenzoDeWilder 8 жыл бұрын
I returned my Devin Graham Glidecam for a Ronin M... The balancing of the Glidecam over and over again when you change lenses is too much for me.
@andreasmartin1746
@andreasmartin1746 8 жыл бұрын
Hello Stefan, thank you for providing such in depth video comparisons! What are your experiences with shooting Image Stabilized lenses with both Glidecam and Ronin? Are they helpful? Or do you prefer switching IS off?
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Andreas, thanks for your comment. I dont like to use the IS when I use the Steadycam because the IS lenses are made for stills. I allways have the feeling the IS "stops" a frame or so. Cheers Stefan
@andreasmartin9476
@andreasmartin9476 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Czech i have the same feeling and was wondering if its me.
@animalejocorpeno80
@animalejocorpeno80 7 жыл бұрын
Stefan knows!
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 6 жыл бұрын
Hope so... thanks
@sirecurb
@sirecurb 8 жыл бұрын
How is David Graham related to Devin Graham?
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Haha..... So funny....and you really think, you are the first who recognize this, right? LOL
@tibialabs8919
@tibialabs8919 8 жыл бұрын
How can you blame a Dji Ronin Stablizator for not having video transmitter to the operator? Its just a stabilization tool, not a capture device...
@BNY7030
@BNY7030 8 жыл бұрын
Gut! Hilfreich! Alles sehr kurzbrennweitig. Wie siehts mit einem 50er oder 85er aus?
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Wolf Siegelmann ja, z.B. bei 11:00min sind Szenen aus dem ersten Musikvideo das auf einen Canon 5DMark II 2008 in Frankfurt gedreht wurde. Objektiv war ein 50mm 1.2 EF von Canon. 85er ist schon sportlich und nur bedingt für bewegte Aufnahmen ein zu setzten. Cheers Stefan
@hotchi1566
@hotchi1566 8 жыл бұрын
One thing I like Ronin series is that it can work seamlessly with Drone. For the long shot including both grounded and aerial photography, Ronin is a much better choice.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+youyi li ...yes of couse. Its a tool and there is a need for that. No question. But you have to use the right tool for the right job.
@Zehahahaa
@Zehahahaa 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video man it helped me so Much and I loved the shots too , So the Ronin gives you a way more Profeccional look But the Glidecam it's easier and better to use ? and if you could only pick one to shoot which would it be Just one for the hole shoot, Project, Movie ?
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
It depends on the shoot. But the 3x brushless gimbal deliver Avery artificial look to me. I have no really 100% controls over my framing and you see countless examples for bad framing and useless shots here on you tube. 80% of the shots you see on good camera moves are made with a steadycam system like the Glidecam.
@Zehahahaa
@Zehahahaa 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so Much that's what I thought By the way what drives you to make or shoot videos ? Is it Movies or what inspires you has any cinematographers work inspire you , do you a favorite cinematographer ?
@ParisHolmesFilms
@ParisHolmesFilms 7 жыл бұрын
Isaac Splinker i think the Ronin gives off a robotic look at times even panning. The glidecam is more natural and fluid.
@NielsDommisse
@NielsDommisse 8 жыл бұрын
what's the background music called? I really like your video by the way!
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Thank Niels. There are different tracks in there. Tell me where exactly and I will tell you the title. Best Stefan
@NielsDommisse
@NielsDommisse 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Czech the song at around 1:23
@CodakChris
@CodakChris 5 жыл бұрын
its so much shit to do to use the ronin M i got caught up in the hype and spent 2k on it . its so heavy after 3 mins and it sits low so trying to get mid shots have to bring up very high . . i ordered a glide cam today gonna give it a try . i used ronin for 2 years i have to be honest it takes 30 min on set to prepare . and extra luggage and batteries . cant just throw in the trunk and go have to break down and pack neat and anxiety of breaking .
@sickhcivc
@sickhcivc 5 жыл бұрын
Yep same with me, wasted money on gimbals but now back with a glidecam.. best thing I could have done
@julitovlogiando
@julitovlogiando 8 жыл бұрын
with this review am convince that the GLide cam is for me... we have to see before buy, what type of videos we want to take or shots.. and for me the Glide cam is more corfomtable :) thanks man ! thumps up! subscribe
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Blanco Hi, ...thanks man. It´s a different tool. Noting more and noting less. Use the tool you are happy with. Best Stefan
@julitovlogiando
@julitovlogiando 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@UniquePhotoandVideo
@UniquePhotoandVideo 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Czech Great comparison Stefan! In my opinion, motorized 3-axis Gimbals don't handle vertical stabilization well. I too, enjoy filming classic cars. World Largest One Day Car Cruise: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iMx4ZpqK0p2YYXU.html
@ozcinemarob
@ozcinemarob 8 жыл бұрын
I agree that the Ronin or any other 3 axis system is not a replacement for Glidecam / Steadicam systems. There is a place for the 3 axis systems and a place for Glidecam systems - my preference stays with the simplicity of the Glidecam/Steadicam systems
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
Yes...agree
@some______guy
@some______guy 8 жыл бұрын
I think most people actually prefer handheld. That's what I've come to think after many years of obsessing about the steady look. Now I hate it
@OhYeaSoWhat
@OhYeaSoWhat 8 жыл бұрын
david graham! killed me!
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Avi Carlos Dascaloff ...haha..I hope so
@OhYeaSoWhat
@OhYeaSoWhat 8 жыл бұрын
It's funny, but the main thing is the video! Thanks for the tips! I personally used the glide cam 4000 and loved it.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Avi Carlos Dascaloff ...ok than I´m happy ;-) I know, I mixed it up some time because David is the COE of Glidecam, a friend and David is a more common name in Europe. But as you mention, the content of this vidoe is a bit more than that. I used the HD 4000 for years now. But when you have the chance, try out the DGS...ist very, very cool because of the ad. gimbal. Cheers Stefan
@polymetric2614
@polymetric2614 7 жыл бұрын
How did you get those shots of the glidecam around 2:52?
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, all shoots are made by my self ;-) Thats my job.
@polymetric2614
@polymetric2614 7 жыл бұрын
Stefan Czech what rig/stabilizer did you use for them?
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 7 жыл бұрын
This is not only a "rig", this is my kind of work, my tabletop. Thanks for like
@SeverinDrums
@SeverinDrums 8 жыл бұрын
Also ich finde, dass der DJI Ronin irgendwie nicht so smoothere Bewegungen wie die Glidecam hinbekommt. Das sieht immer so abgehackt aus...
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+Severin Arts ...Bei mir schon ;-) Aber es sind zwei unterschiedliche Werkzeuge. Zu denken die neuen Gimbals ersetzten einen guten Steadycam Operator ist aber doch etwas "blaueugig"
@SeverinDrums
@SeverinDrums 8 жыл бұрын
Na klar :) Alles braucht Übung :) aber die Steadycam richtig führen zu können, ist dann doch noch ein richtiges Handwerk :D
@mrcapello
@mrcapello 8 жыл бұрын
i don't get why there is so much up and down movement with the ronin. isn't it basically the same as walking with a steady cam ? on a gimbal there is only one axis I have to worry about on a steady cam it's every axis.
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+mrcapello hi, the roblem is the z axis. At the Steadycam the up and down is compensated by your arm (handheld) or the Steadycam/Glidecam arm. At the electronic Gimbal there is no z axis comp.
@mrcapello
@mrcapello 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Czech what? I don't understand. don't you control the z axis on a gimbal with your arms and legs too? same as on a glidecam?
@StefanCzech
@StefanCzech 8 жыл бұрын
+mrcapello not so efficent becouse of the weight and the economic. You have the weight not over one point you can grab on like the centerpost of the steadycam.
@mrcapello
@mrcapello 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Czech interesting. I thought the fact that you don't have your arms in front of your body would make it easier for walking but apparently the weight distribution is a bigger issue
@CiReC-GmbH
@CiReC-GmbH 8 жыл бұрын
schönes video ;) ich denke, beide systeme haben grosse vor und nachteile, und benutze beide, je nach bedarf. meine meinung: der grösste nachteil der elektonischen gimbals sind der "technische" look, und dass man tatsächlich zwei operators braucht (mit allen vor und nachteilen die das wiederum beinhaltet, wie du schön erklärt hast). wobei sich das ja sicher auch bald enorm ändern könnte (hoffe ich)! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rayfZZSp16yromQ.html&t=300 abgesehen davon: den focus puller brauch ich auch mit der glidecam ;) der grösste vorteil: die dinger werden immer besser und auch kleiner. ein osmo mit X5R bietet mir (hoffentlich, wenn es das denn bald mal gibt) die möglichkeit, aufnahmen zu machen, die ich mit ronin/glidecam und meiner fs700/odyssey combo niemals erreichen könnte! dazu noch: absolute wind-unanfälligkeit, als steadycam operator weisst du was ich meine ;) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7Sii5SG1LjZqo0.html ich liebe meine glidecam - leider hab ich nicht die grandiose "Davin Graham Signature Series" - aber sie ist dennoch oft im einsatz! wie du sagst: "Enjoy your day, be nice, and KEEP FILMING"!
@ronineditor9920
@ronineditor9920 5 жыл бұрын
I did a film a couple years ago where the producer brought the Ronin to set and I had my Steadicam as a back-up... I balanced the Ronin no problem but I hated that I couldn't just set it down or pick it up, it was always a process. And, like mentioned in this video, I hates waiting for the damn camera to turn. I was doing a 'oner' where it was 14 points of interest and the thing wasn't even close to keeping up so I just said screw it and got out the old school Steadicam with vest. However, this Glidecam looks amazing... best of both worlds.
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