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Global House Price Crash - Where will Prices Fall?

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Economics Help UK

Жыл бұрын

A look at where house prices are falling around the world and why some housing markets have fallen further than others. What the current economic situation means for future house prices in main economies.
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@SchubertDipDab
@SchubertDipDab Жыл бұрын
I just don't understand why people think house prices rising constantly is a good thing. We pay more stamp duty, higher fees and if you're up-sizing, that gap between what you have now and what you want just gets bigger. Absolute insanity unless you're lucky enough to be downsizing or selling an investment.
@iwasntaguntilimovedouttheh3961
@iwasntaguntilimovedouttheh3961 Жыл бұрын
Because the UK relies on raising house prices to attract foreign money. That's why all the new apartments in Manchester are marketed in Asia. No one local would think they are worth it, it's reliant on there being someone willing to pay more than them yet the lease hold is getting shorter. Same goes for the areas in Manchester and around the UK Londoners are buying in, they count on another Londoner coming along and being willing to pay stupid money for a property that as gone up 5 fold in less than 20 years. Londoners are buying houses in Manchester for £400K that last sold 80k. We have well overpriced whole postcodes where hearing a Southern accent is more normal than hearing a Manchester one. I talk about Manchester because it's the city in Europe with the most developments happening and it's well overpriced needing to be marketed abroad to attract customers willing to pay daft money to live in a rat infested, homelessness abundant hell hole. People are told to visit the same few streets to present a manufactured image of Manchester that is vibrant truth is its catching up to London in terms of being a disgusting place to live.
@RabJ208
@RabJ208 Жыл бұрын
There are pro's and con's to rising house prices. When houses drop in value; buying BMV is easier as there are more properties on the market. However, when I go to pull equity out of my existing propeties - that have also dropped in value - I don't have the funding or as much as I'd like.
@Eddi3f
@Eddi3f Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. The Manchester property ponzi needs fixing! I grew up in Manchester and I’m buying with a partner. We both make good money and have a decent amount saved up for a deposite and we’re still priced out of most of Manchester. Something has to budge eventually.​@@iwasntaguntilimovedouttheh3961
@roberttyler2861
@roberttyler2861 Жыл бұрын
Why does nobody talk about the fact in the US they have fixed rates for over 30 years. Completely different to the UK norm.
@One-tw5nw
@One-tw5nw Жыл бұрын
Love these videos, but can you please leave the graphics on for much longer whilst you talk rather than cutting back to you?
@economicshelp
@economicshelp Жыл бұрын
OK, thanks
@lozaboza6935
@lozaboza6935 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I had to pause and rewind, the graph still didn't make sense tho 😂
@user-mj7qw1cp3m
@user-mj7qw1cp3m Жыл бұрын
The house prices are ridiculous. Here in Australia the rich can literally print money by negative gearing their investment properties. The Government has literally inflated an already overpriced market with these tax cuts. As a young person looking at buying a home while having to pay sky high rent it’s infuriating. Knowing if I was just ten years older buying a home would have been a walk in the park with low interest rates and much cheaper prices. I can only hope interest rates keep rising to cap the market. If something doesn’t happen soon I can see a revolution on the cards with young people having no prospects in this current market
@jjcvk
@jjcvk Жыл бұрын
On the 'plus' side - interest rates will reach 6.5/7% EASILY. At 4.5% - it is already doubling peoples mortgages repayments. Only a small % have had to do so, though.. Over the next couple of years everyone will come out of term & need to pay the new (double/triple) rates... defaults will be a plenty, so it becomes a buyers market again
@guyh9992
@guyh9992 Жыл бұрын
Last time negative gearing was banned it caused a rental shortage so rents will go even higher if it is banned now. In order to "print money" as you put it you have to make a loss first. Positive gearing where rents exceed costs is much more lucrative than negative gearing. Immigration driven demand is the real cause of rising prices.
@andrewtaylor6737
@andrewtaylor6737 Жыл бұрын
Moving home with Charlie, has got it right !
@connormcleod9595
@connormcleod9595 Жыл бұрын
Charlie is by far the best at analyzing the future. He appears to be the only one who understands Basic maths.
@andrewtaylor6737
@andrewtaylor6737 Жыл бұрын
@@delgriffithification The way the worlds economy is going, hope it's more than than the 35%
@MM-pb1se
@MM-pb1se Жыл бұрын
I think as Charlie is close to the industry he’s obviously coming from an angle that’s more clued on..I personally think 35% may be too much as both electoral parties have an interest in not causing a crash albeit the current one in power more so than the incoming …I feel they’ll intervene to prop up the market like they have done in the past with schemes but I think they’ve realised that’s simply kicking the can down the road and eventually it will catch up and be a bigger problem …. They might just let some sort of correction occur it’s course rather than intervene on this occasion to win some votes … I’m predicating a 15% drop in value…any thoughts?
@cookiejar01
@cookiejar01 Жыл бұрын
He is just another doom monger IMO. Headlines about crashes sells
@MM-pb1se
@MM-pb1se Жыл бұрын
Your right to certain extent but I sense he isn’t about that …he brings on ppl on his channel to challenge his viewpoint so it’s one of the most objective streams online unlike them ‘Jamie York’s & Samuel Leeds’ who’ve realised good deals are few and far between knowadays so their changing their attention on selling education/courses… A quick Google/companies house check/land registry check would have these liars exposed ie: every set of filed accounts tell you a story if you know how to read them…it’s only about time someone makes an online video on them and it goes viral …
@petercassimatis9157
@petercassimatis9157 Жыл бұрын
I think the main reasonn for house prices still elevated is due to low unemoyment. It takes a few years for the housing market to adjust. Once unemployment and business failures increase as the economy slows then we will see more listings. In Australia, low listing levels are supporting prices as buyers are holding back given still low levels of forced sales. As we move in to the later part of this year and into 2024 I would expect prices to continue to fall again as many mortgages revert from fixed to floating rates. This will be a significant head wind and I would expect supply to increase while demand falls as the decline in real wages will constrain demand. House prices in Australia are at least 40 to 50% over valued given where incomes are at.
@stevenfernandes7285
@stevenfernandes7285 Жыл бұрын
House Prices have Not necessarily been going Up. It’s the Value of Currency that’s going Down. Very important to keep this Key Factor in mind when discussing property prices in nominal terms (£).
@QasimSarfraz24
@QasimSarfraz24 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your insights about whole world property situation. Please keep it up.
@davidjones190
@davidjones190 Жыл бұрын
What people must remember that most places in the UK, it’s still more expensive tobuild than to buy so I can’t see house prices dropping too much until building costs come down to many regulations keeping the price inflated
@kevinu.k.7042
@kevinu.k.7042 Жыл бұрын
Superb vlog. Thank you. I would love to see a ban on foreigners buying houses in the U.K. There are not an insubstantial number of houses which are bought as investments and never let out. The other issue we have is that so many people add their profits onto the house price, land speculators, builders, estate agents, surveyors and solicitors and then finally the banks get a bite. A house in the U.K is valued far higher than the cost of the land and the builders bill. The markets do not work in favour of those seeking homes. I know, I know, markets fix the prices... but I think we need to fix these market dysfunctions a little more than we do. Again thanks and let us hope the U.S. does not go into recession. That might just be the camel's straw.
@Finderskeepers.
@Finderskeepers. Жыл бұрын
Thats 95%+ London and its not a material number that are unoccupied for the whole market. The occupied ones, which would also get caught by a foreign buyer ban are supporting the rental market which is also under pressure. The outcome would be a bit of a drop in ALL property prices while rents shoot up. Supply is the problem not demand. Thats before considering the political support for dropping house prices. They dropped stamp duty at the start of the pandemic which goes straight onto the property price and shows this governments position as they increased NI. Got to protect the Tory donators, 20% of Tory funding came from the property sector.
@xyzzyx101xyz9
@xyzzyx101xyz9 Жыл бұрын
It's a prime destination for ill gotten wealth from foreign countires to be parked in property
@jalalalap-akalala
@jalalalap-akalala Жыл бұрын
​@@Finderskeepers. I just wish there was a solid alternative to the Tory party
@barryoneill-ec9zz
@barryoneill-ec9zz Жыл бұрын
I’m in Cambridge uk, house prices are flying up, A hen shed costs at least £500000. Prices aren’t going any here but up up up, don’t fool yourselves.
@roberttyler2861
@roberttyler2861 Жыл бұрын
that's cheap compared to closer to London. People are pushing out and Cambridge is the cusp of acceptable to get into London.
@barryoneill-ec9zz
@barryoneill-ec9zz Жыл бұрын
@@roberttyler2861 We’ve got a two tier society coming, nobody will face the truth about what’s really going on, Where’s all the money being going? Up into the pockets of the elite, The working class are being priced out, and black rock are the new landlords.
@One-tw5nw
@One-tw5nw Жыл бұрын
Ha sure, so £400k mortgage over 25 years at 5%, let's see if most can afford that and if the market can therefore sustain that
@roberttyler2861
@roberttyler2861 Жыл бұрын
@@One-tw5nw Oh yeh. Its maximum risk, especially those that are first time buyers. I'm not sure I could deal with the anxiousness of where these IR rates could go.
@Finderskeepers.
@Finderskeepers. Жыл бұрын
2 things to consider on house prices. Economists, Accountants and professional valuers value ANY asset as the NPV of future income from the asset. NPV is the risk free rate which is the bond rate for that market plus the risk premium that one applies to that asset. So when interest/bond rates go up, the higher NPV reduces the asset value before considering the change to the risk premium. In property its the Yield. Higher worldwide interest rates will impact all asset values. The 2nd consideration is Price which is the equilibrium of supply and demand. Higher interest rates reduce demand but also supply, new builds may not be economically viable so dont get built, it takes circa 2 years from starting a development to closing on the sale and why development is high risk and hence a high discount factor. But Price is local, cant move a property and particularly for residential Price is the many factor. Its good to have statistics but they are averages and generally not at a local level hence the US market increases, drill down and some areas are dropping eg San fran down 16%. We are now in a normal interest rate environment rather than the downward pressure monetary policy environment stemming from the 2008 financial crash. In an ideal world interest rates would match inflation keeping everything neutral in real terms but thats not realistic but it is why inflation is so dangerous.
@mduffy4861
@mduffy4861 Жыл бұрын
Really informative ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@caru1094
@caru1094 Жыл бұрын
UK net migration just hit over 600k people, how can you keep up with building new houses to so many people? That’s why prices are very unlikely to drop much, on the other hand we are reaching the limit of affordability for average earners to buy anything at the moment…
@robbbbb
@robbbbb Жыл бұрын
570k people died last year. You can’t use 1 statistic as a sole justification for house prices. The moving market is too complex for that. House prices are closest related to real wages than anything else. With inflation eating into this, affordability lowers, demand then drops and supply increases as people cant afford to remortgage to higher interest rates. Inflation is followed by recession, people losing jobs furthering this.
@robbbbb
@robbbbb Жыл бұрын
@@delgriffithification how does that effect the moving market?
@leer9951
@leer9951 Жыл бұрын
And I suppose those migrants who came over in inflatables can walk into any bank and leave with a £270k mortgage?
@Finderskeepers.
@Finderskeepers. Жыл бұрын
No immigrants = higher inflation. Inflation drives property prices because it drives wages. But inflation ALWAYS outpaces wages, wages are set after inflation when the inflation rate is a year old and thats assuming the wage increases matches inflation. Just because you get paid more doesnt mean you can buy more because of inflation. On the back of a long period of interest rates lower than inflation house prices have increased but now there is a correction as that anomaly due to the financial crisis is reversed. Newborns will be in future demand and the effect is relative to the new born rate previously from circa 25 to 35 years ago ie new purchasers. There are a number of components to the demand side, migration, death rate, newborns, divorce , social changes, average wages to name a few.
@DoctorAB282
@DoctorAB282 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for interesting and informative efforts and am buying your books soon ✌️
@lukeseven8155
@lukeseven8155 Жыл бұрын
What about Irish property market sir
@putttrue4314
@putttrue4314 Жыл бұрын
As housing and rental prices soar, more people are opting for roommates and sharing their home with others to save money. This will make more homes available for sale
@kellywalker4494
@kellywalker4494 Жыл бұрын
Many UK politicians have large property portfolios, they won’t crash the market. They might crash the market temporarily so that they can scoop up some more at cheaper prices but it will bounce back quickly.
@ZazenDersim
@ZazenDersim Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video!
@amilaperera1
@amilaperera1 Жыл бұрын
Good illustration
@everythingtechnew7400
@everythingtechnew7400 Жыл бұрын
I had a quick look last night & to my surprise banks are offering 4% 5 year fixed terms. They must be making a loss offering these product it makes no sense. Don’t believe goto COOP Bank & search fixed rates but select I’m an existing customer to see rates.
@barryhamm3414
@barryhamm3414 Жыл бұрын
The bank is betting that interest rates will fall in the longer term and that over the duration of the loan they will still make a profit.
@everythingtechnew7400
@everythingtechnew7400 Жыл бұрын
@@barryhamm3414 Possible but it could be they are desperate to sell products. UK mortgage lending has reportedly hit record low levels indicating people are not borrowing. This isn’t good for banks so maybe they’re lending below base rates as they’re desperate for new business. It’s unprecedented banks offering fixed rate products below BOE rates. Whatever it is it’s not a good sign.
@Finderskeepers.
@Finderskeepers. Жыл бұрын
5 year bonds are at 4% not that Banks pay their depositors Bond rates. You got to compare like with like hence the 5 year Bond rate. A swap will convert the variable rate deposit cost for funding the loan to the 5 year Bond rate. They can make money on that or at a minimum cover the overhead and stay in business but it is tight. Remember lending also keeps property prices up as it fuels supply and so protects the existing loan book which is a far more significant number than new business. A 1% hit on new loans is small beer compared to a 1% hit on all existing loans just to show the wriggle room. Thats a good fix, take it if your in the property for the long term.
@ratttttyyy
@ratttttyyy Жыл бұрын
Unexpected high inflation? This dude must work for the BOE!
@ratttttyyy
@ratttttyyy Жыл бұрын
@Health is wealth listen plebs, it just transitory. We won't do anything for 12 months then blame someone else for our incompetence
@beautanner8409
@beautanner8409 11 ай бұрын
Foreign buyers weren't the only (or even the main) contributor to Canada's overall housing crisis - although they have devastated some key population centers. So even if the ban worked perfectly, more would need to be done. That being said, the 'ban' was created with so many loopholes that it was easily avoided by any foreign buyer wishing to do so. This is now held up as a reason to dismiss this as an important factor to unaffordability: "we've tried to address it, and failed - let's look elsewhere for answers." This is a smoke screen, and foreign buyers are still an important contributing factor to the crisis here. Not the only one, but one that cannot be left as is.
@neilward6668
@neilward6668 Жыл бұрын
It might be worth doing a video on how those people who were hedging against inflation hoarded residential property by buying it up and may have distorted the market and how these people may react when seeking to sell during a falling market
@erfgyhkjlk
@erfgyhkjlk Жыл бұрын
Amazing job, keep going! 👍
@connormcleod9595
@connormcleod9595 Жыл бұрын
Moving home with Charlie explains the situation in layman's terms. Alas the populous are still non the wiser listening to the guff.
@cookiejar01
@cookiejar01 Жыл бұрын
PE is useful, but the high PE doesn't have to mean falling prices. Earnings could also rise and have been rising. In the UK, house prices have been stagnant while wages rose 6-7% only so far in 2023. If this continues for a few more years, combined with moderate inflation, then the PE will normalise without a crash. Also the British obsession with housing means that in the UK there probably is always going to be a Premium on the PE compared to other countries like Germany
@Goady1000
@Goady1000 Жыл бұрын
Global except uk
@dalskiBo
@dalskiBo Жыл бұрын
Great content as always- thanks
@mango4ttwo635
@mango4ttwo635 Жыл бұрын
People not selling houses in the US s NOT evidence that prices are not falling there. They are not selling coz potential sellers can't get the price they want - so it is evidence of falling prices. Refusing to sell merely stops indices which track sales from showing what is happening, ie that the market is falling
@Finderskeepers.
@Finderskeepers. Жыл бұрын
Price is only transacted deals. Your highlighting a drop in supply because the price available is enough to motivate supplying. There is a difference between Price and Value, Value is personal, Price is the market.
@mango4ttwo635
@mango4ttwo635 Жыл бұрын
@@Finderskeepers. value in your definition is a feeling, not economics
@Finderskeepers.
@Finderskeepers. Жыл бұрын
@@mango4ttwo635 Actually the economic definition is based on feeling because its based on personal perception of risk. The formal definition of value is the NPV of future income as used by economists, accountants and professional valuers.
@mango4ttwo635
@mango4ttwo635 Жыл бұрын
@@Finderskeepers. Those "feelings" will change when people realise bailouts will not re-occur, when central bank base interest rates at 5% become normal, and they see prices dropping all around them. If you want to sell for a high price, you do it asap. You will get less than last year, but you will not get the same price again for many years
@Finderskeepers.
@Finderskeepers. Жыл бұрын
@@mango4ttwo635 Agreed subject to the local supply demand situation.
@eyazdani4537
@eyazdani4537 Жыл бұрын
House price wouldn't crash as the price of raw materials and labour are rising. The impact of rising interest rates on house price is minimal, so would take few years to rise again.
@robbbbb
@robbbbb Жыл бұрын
US inflation data shows it is falling, but that is because for 2023 they changed the formula to only use 1 year of data as opposed to 2 years. Add this onto last year and it is not coming down as steep and core inflation is actually increasing
@drscopeify
@drscopeify Жыл бұрын
That's not how it works the USA has many different metrics and they are available in monthly data or yearly data. The FED usually picks it's favorite metric which right now is Core CPI. They believe this is the most honest and real data so they are acting based on that. You can easily google USA Core CPI MoM and now you can see the monthly data and for sure it is falling but slower than the FED would like to see so they might raise rate a bit more but it's hard to know. Rate hikes take years to impact housing and that is a major part of CORE CPI so this is not a fast process.
@michaelmallal9101
@michaelmallal9101 Жыл бұрын
Harry Dent has been saying this for years
@swojnowski453
@swojnowski453 Жыл бұрын
The answer is : everywhere nearly. The reason is a slowly unfolding collapse in population growth and fewer and fewer people in the market for houses over years. In most of Europe we have reached the peak already. In the UK we are at the peak, actually Brexit has hastened it. There will be no return to what we saw over the last 20 years here, but there will be more and more available houses as more and more older people move to care homes and die there, while there are fewer those who want an can afford to buy. This population decline can't be stopped by any gov policy, it is a global trend that has started 40 years ago. Over two generation this country will have 30% fewer natives ... and soon natives will be a minority in the UK. Fall is inevitable, for now it is being managed, but that's just a prelude to a collapse over the next decades as seen in Italy, Spain, Japan, Portugal etc ... only some large cities survive this slightly longer. Prices go up where there is demand ...
@cobbler40
@cobbler40 Жыл бұрын
If all house prices fall and you just want to move it makes no difference to you.
@hafidhafid7902
@hafidhafid7902 Жыл бұрын
Sound like some one working for Rightmove
@george6977
@george6977 Жыл бұрын
👍
@FreaksSpeaks
@FreaksSpeaks Жыл бұрын
Simple amswer,, everywhere 😂
@paullewin8615
@paullewin8615 Жыл бұрын
They need to fall by at least 50% before people can begin to afford them again. Devaluation of the confetti paper.. Oops. We're all in deep shit mate
@charleskellymoneytipspodca9121
@charleskellymoneytipspodca9121 Жыл бұрын
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