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@febbra2
@febbra2 11 жыл бұрын
Damage done, I'm affraid
@coolmancool29
@coolmancool29 14 жыл бұрын
This Is Very Sad. I Watched This In School! But This Is Damn Sad!!!
@vengencefrom1979
@vengencefrom1979 14 жыл бұрын
@PainTrain87 a rise in CO2 in the atmosphere needs a reason. where would you propose that it is coming from? spontaneous creation?
@Lights3287
@Lights3287 14 жыл бұрын
@OZcheckm8 More life as in mosquitoes...yes? I did read that mosquitoes will tend to be abundant due to global warmings affect on seasons too. I'm still somewhat skeptical of your theory. How is it possible that more Co2 will make more life?
@bflatkitty
@bflatkitty 14 жыл бұрын
" The inquiry subsequently reported that it had found no credible evidence that Mann had suppressed or falsified data. "
@jacewolf301
@jacewolf301 14 жыл бұрын
The truth is the world could be changing because of global warming, Magnetic sphere shifts or even something we have not even researched. But what kind of problems would come from moving away from primitive fuels and moving to natural energy sources? Seriously, who would that hurt more, the 'average' people or the rich oil tycoons and the people they pay off to keep the world the same? What would it hurt for people to drop their pride and try to save the world for later generations?
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
@randomlaughingman Clara, Did you reserve your first class ticket to Marshal Applewhite's UFO taxi service? Where to first, Europa, Or Nibiru? Have you talked to Donestra lately?
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
@Niightversionn I checked out the report and noticed something in their graph. The rise in temperature from 1910 to 1940 was greater then anytime after that. So the rise in temperature since then, is well within what would be considered normal, and seems to have no effect from the industrial period. Also, the AR4 report didn't come out until 2007, yet the graph stops at 2000. Is this the other way they are trying to hide the decline since 2000? lol
@TemperatureVariation
@TemperatureVariation 14 жыл бұрын
This includes the recent transition to the current interglacial period, Monnin et al (2001) showed that at the start of the temperature increase, it took 800 years for CO2 to catch up. Another study by Mudelsee (2001) looked at the whole 420,000 year ice core and concluded that CO2 lagged behind temperature fluctuations.
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
Random, I was just joking with you. I love plants, took Botany in college. I have a green thumb, I plant natives, a major problem we can point at Gore for is his helping to expand GATT to the WTO, which made the invasion of Invasive plants that are destroying native ecosystems much more common You ever check out Vegetable Man by PF?
@arryhuk
@arryhuk 14 жыл бұрын
The BBC are running a new series,it is called 'Beautiful Minds'.The programmes centre on brilliant Men and Women in science who's thinking and discoveries have led to huge leaps in our understanding of the World and the Universe.The second programme in the series highlights the fantastic contribution of James Lovelock in recognising that the Planet Earth was a delicately balanced and self regulating system for the survival of life.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
Early in March, Arctic sea ice appeared to reach a maximum extent. However, after a short decline, the ice continued to grow. By the end of March, total extent approached 1979 to 2000 average levels for this time of year.
@TemperatureVariation
@TemperatureVariation 14 жыл бұрын
@MarkNobes, did you know that 80% of worlds volcanoes lie in the oceans? They do produce CO2. Also, may you explain how the acidity experiments were done? The alarmists leaked hydrochloric acid into the water, instead or releasing CO2 into the air and letting it work through the system. The proper experiment shows that coral reefs will flourish in CO2.
@arryhuk
@arryhuk 14 жыл бұрын
I am not a great supporter of the nuclear option but if helps reduce CO2 emmissions that has got to be seen more as a positive than a negative. I would prefer to see more sustainable and environmentally friendly options being encouraged and invested in coupled with a reduction in energy usage overall. However the latter option would require international agreements on reducing material consumption and energy usage as well as a new 'consumer' mindset geared towards sustainability.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
Among other things, the group, known as the Joint Inspection Unit (JIU), found: When it comes to existing multilateral environmental agreements, or MEAs - international treaties for such things as preserving biodiversity, protecting wetlands and migratory species, and halting desertification - the U.N. officials responsible for implementing the agreements told the inspectors of a "lack of high-level support" from the organization's collective top leadership.
@PureBlood1111
@PureBlood1111 14 жыл бұрын
@MarkNobes does that mean everything is going to be okay now Mark or will it not make one iota of difference who is in Downing Street.
@tattat44
@tattat44 14 жыл бұрын
@Niightversionn Dude, I gotta give you props on trolling skills, simply on the basis of persistence. 8/10
@PureBlood1111
@PureBlood1111 14 жыл бұрын
Sunspot and solar radiation activity almost exactly parallel temperature changes on the Earth. It correlates well with the anomalous post-war temperature dip, when global carbon dioxide levels were rising very fast. The increase in solar radiation prevents the formation of clouds, which have a cooling effect on the planet, therefore the temperature rises.
@bflatkitty
@bflatkitty 14 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure the fossilsaurs need to worry about environmentalists using the baby drilling disaster in the gulf . Environmentalists just worn the public about stuff that isn't obvious, like potential for oil spills. Fossilsaurs may need to look out for angry fishermen. If I was Obama man I'd ask for an equal investment in alternatives for every dollar spent on the offshore baby drilling.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
It is very surprising that research in an area that depends so heavily on statistical methods has not been carried out in close collaboration with professional statisticians, the report concluded.
@bflatkitty
@bflatkitty 14 жыл бұрын
I read in the MIT documentation that 30 years is a standard for measuring climate. Not the only measurement. It is considered a sampling of weather over time so cycle trends can be recognized. El Nino was discovered not long after the Meteorological office started sampling data in 1851. It was rediscovered in 2010 during the Winter Olympics in Vancouver.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
Continuing habitat loss, due to activities such as agriculture and logging, is cited as the principal threat facing most bird populations, with invasive species and disease also having a serious impact.
@sniperontheroof123
@sniperontheroof123 14 жыл бұрын
@OZcheckm8 Yeah...except satellite temp records show the same thing: data (dot) giss (dot) nasa (dot) gov (slash) gistemp (slash) graphs
@arryhuk
@arryhuk 14 жыл бұрын
Well I think Nightversionn has it pitched just about perfect.
@motoxmainia
@motoxmainia 14 жыл бұрын
This brings home the salient point that mass shifts in Arctic ice have more to do with wind patterns than they do temperature, something Anthony Watts helpfully confirms in a recent post. As a result, Arctic ice extent is recovering from its 2007 low and is currently within a million square kilometres of normal and increasing as peak coverage approaches.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
in a moment nightversionn will clear the comment area, hopefully for the video. lol
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
@Didntsaythat Exactly. I just didn't think I had to break it down that far. But I guess I should have for the warmist. Thanks for clarifying that. :)
@bflatkitty
@bflatkitty 14 жыл бұрын
@Nightversionn The fish farming industry has suffered from warming oceans there. Most had to be relocated to more open waters from the inside passage inlets of Vancouver Island and some tanks. The new technique you are talking about farms multiple complimentary species that eat fish poop like kelp etc. That makes for a healthier surroundings and cleaner water around Sponge Bobs farm. A similar concept to land farming using complimentary bugs and plants to keep other bugs and plants at bay.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@randomlaughingman so you looking forward to that hockey stick? lol this room is too funny today
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@Spitfiremacx that was beautiful spitfire! lol I have a tear in my eye
@Dra60oN
@Dra60oN 14 жыл бұрын
As I see here in my country it is not warmer every year it is colder.
@jacewolf301
@jacewolf301 14 жыл бұрын
@OZcheckm8 I thank you for reply, and let me put it to you like this. We have two options, be taxed for oil which will run out and ultimately increase in price till no one but the richest can buy it or be taxed for energy that would be limitless and may save the environment and improve our world. One options leads to 'normal' people getting fuel for a short time and then ti being cut away and the other, to energy which could belong to everyone. You will have to pay either way.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
Sea ice extent seemed to reach a maximum during the early part of the month, but after a brief decline, ice extent increased slowly and steadily through the end of the month. By the end of the month, extent had approached the 1979 to 2000 average. During March 2010, ice extent grew at an average of 13,200 square kilometers (5100 square miles) per day. Usually there is a net loss of ice through the month.
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
@truthinstyle As Geddy Lee in the song "My Favorite Headache" puts it "Just between the Ice Ages anyway"
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
Can anyone else confirm the sea level during the MWP when greenland was growing grapes? I've only come up with about 1 meter above where we are now.
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
Hi Bellicose, The usual crop of Red Cabbages are currently on a collective mental break. They all should be returning soon, at the same time of course
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
Tarded, Have you made plans yet to watch the Himalayan Glaciers melt in 2035? Are you also a Model railroader like Choo Choo Pachurai?
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
"So, in answer to the question, the warming rates for all 4 periods are similar and NOT STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER." 1860-1880 0.163 1910-1940 0.15 1975-1998 0.166 1975-2009 0.161 So where in those numbers from Jones do you see the massive increase in industry and population having an effect?
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
@Spitfiremacx Thats too funny. :) Can't help but laugh at that one.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
I imagine the lack of atmosphere means no transfer of the heat around the globe too while half the planet gets none for months and the other side gets it all with no night for months
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
Mark Serreze, director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) in Colorado said he was "surprised" by the Arctics recovery from the great melt of 2007 when summer ice shrank to its smallest recorded extent. "In retrospect," he says, "the reactions to the 2007 melt were overstated. The lesson is that we must be more careful in not reading too much into one event."
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for 2 thumbs up on your post shortly Have you ever tried Slimfast?
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@mcatbs9 Hey, I had a thought, if most of the world quit buying gas, what would happen to the price of gas? Ever heard of a concept called "supply and demand"? Would it become incredibly cheap to buy? Hard to resist for struggling countries and economies?
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
@laurelbush Hope you feel better! Wrap yourself up from the warmth! GN
@bflatkitty
@bflatkitty 14 жыл бұрын
@tybouk by offsetting gas.
@bflatkitty
@bflatkitty 14 жыл бұрын
@laurelbush When you fart in the tub it rises to the top. The same thing happens to co2 emitted from an underwater volcano. You could try to invent some method to keep the co2 down there. You guys loved volcanoes when you thought they were outputting more co2 than humans in your swindle video. They had to remove that part because they were off by about 13,000%
@40joel
@40joel 14 жыл бұрын
@goog2k Where are you getting this information? Because this winter was the harshest in the U.S. since 1983
@mcatbs9
@mcatbs9 14 жыл бұрын
@KnighttVision hmm...but what is important, our lives or economies?
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
looks like goog accepted the checkmate and moved on? lol it's a beautiful day!
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
@Nightversionn I see you're lonely again :(
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
@Nightversionn Maybe the rivers which are fed by melting glaciers are drying up because the glaciers are frozen and not melting. That would explain the lack of water. You see, when glaciers melt, rivers flow, when they are frozen, the rivers are small....get it?
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for that ellusive sign of global warming. Oceans are the same temp as when I was a kid, earths temps are pretty much the same as well. Anyone else find any extreme temps compaired to years ago?
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
Nightv, Which lunatic would fit you best from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? Martini or Cheswick? Maybe you can fit them both into your various Sybil incarnations?
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
@Spitfiremacx LOL, how true my friend. Mark's post on the MWP was pretzel logic at best. I wonder if he's starting to lose it. Maybe all the kooks that are in his company are starting to wear off on him?
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
@Troglod8 I see you had to use the nursery rhyme in order to be at his level...clever LOL
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
Working on behalf of the United Nations, the scientists organized under IPCC's umbrella -- including Phil Jones -- regularly prepare prognoses on the Earth's looming greenhouse climate. Without the IPCC reports, governments would not be embroiled in such passionate debate about phasing out the age of oil and coal.
@motoxmainia
@motoxmainia 14 жыл бұрын
The amount of sea ice covering the Arctic dramatically increased last month, reaching levels not seen at this time of year for nearly a decade. Returning ice - after years of declining cover - has astonished climate scientists who blamed unusually cold weather over the Bering Sea. Researchers said they recorded the most ice in March since 2001 - and that the cover is approaching long-term average levels for the first time in ten years. at 12:00 AM on 03rd April 2010
@philonetic
@philonetic 14 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. Our wretched species is so made that those who walk on the well-trodden path always throw stones at those who are showing a new road -Voltaire
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
@Spitfiremacx A very good statement. Glad you brought it back to life. No wonder why it was spammed out by the warmist.
@motoxmainia
@motoxmainia 14 жыл бұрын
On Friday (30 April), it was revealed that UK tax authorities had raided 81 different offices and homes earlier in the week, arresting 22 individuals - 13 in England and further eight in Scotland. The swoop, which occurred two days earlier, involved roughly 450 staff from Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs.
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
@MrOTLChamp I mean 130 yrs of inaccurate data
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
wow, nightversionn has been off for 50 minutes! and all her clones. How long is that break?
@FrarmerFrank
@FrarmerFrank 14 жыл бұрын
I had great teachers that loved teaching for teaching sake and even paid out of their pocket for supplemental educational materialand spend endless hours in the Liabrary and looking through book stores to make sure that the kids education didn't suffer from the limited and outdated material on hand and not only thought me how to read,remember,and recite but to also research,rationalize,reason,reanalyze and Revolutionize,(other 5 Rs for critical and creative thinking)
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
Continuing habitat loss, due to activities such as agriculture and logging, is cited as the principal threat facing most bird populations,
@PainTrain87
@PainTrain87 14 жыл бұрын
@MarkNobes Well I'm glad that you have figured this out. You should mention this to your other alarmist friends who continue to use the multi-account thing against me, so that they don't have to address my question.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@Spitfiremacx Wait a minute, are you saying random's real name is Massa? I thought someone told me random it's Clara
@PureBlood1111
@PureBlood1111 14 жыл бұрын
An important and complicated study looked at the plankton record in a deep sea core of the North Atlantic while also conducting experiments with living cultures of one of the most common small phytoplankton organisms, the coccolith Emiliania huxleyi.
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
@laurelbush Well, that prediction sure seems to match up well with whats been going on in our climate the last hand full of years.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
March 2010 compared to past years The average ice extent for March 2010 was 670,000 square kilometers (260,000 square miles) higher than the record low for March, observed in 2006.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@Nightversionn oh thanks for the advice nightversionn! That was really nice of you! :-) How was your holiday?
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@TheGNNgreentube Nice to meet you Andrea!
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@Nightversionn now would be a great time for you to flush the screen to remove the results. lol :-D
@PainTrain87
@PainTrain87 14 жыл бұрын
@MarkNobes Wow, how ground breaking. Did you really have to go and find something that is virtual common sense? I applaud your effort, but this statement concludes nothing, without proper knowledge. Now, you are saying that CO2 has not been near 400ppm in the past 20my. You're right. Yet, temperatures were much warmer than today. How interesting. Good job Mark...you have proven my point.
@Levon9404
@Levon9404 11 жыл бұрын
I dare to any body who call them self scientist, & they are more touchy about the title than knowledge. Let them explain me one thing, what will be more useful when they are on the edge of the cliff & about to go down the cliff. The "knowledge or title"?
@PureBlood1111
@PureBlood1111 14 жыл бұрын
(cont)This coccolith is a major contributor to calcium deposits in the oceans (50%). Contrary to other studies that found a decrease in calcification, this study found an increase in calcification. Whereas others changed the pH by adding external acids or bases, this team mimicked the real world more accurately by bubbling air with known concentrations of CO2 (280-750ppm, pH=8.1-7.7) through their cultures.
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
@laurelbush Six fire places? He must be expecting more cold. lol
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
@YourKidsArentSpecial Nice fast 3 thumbs up. You are working allot of accounts. How was your cheese today? Ty again for bringing out the OIl and banking ties Gore has Which is better Casey Jones Pachurai or Choo Choo Pachurai?
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
This is a big departure for German media who have been one of the strongest advocates over the years for action by governments to head off climate change. The idea that a leading publication would devote so much space to explaining why Climategate is so important is a good sign that skepticism is making some headway - at least overseas.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
isn't the warming rate the same as it was in 1860 (before cars) according to Phil Jones chart?
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
Knight - A defender, champion, or zealous upholder of a cause or principle Vision - Unusual competence in discernment or perception; intelligent foresight Nightversionn- something to do with New Wave music or Duran Duran lol Need I say more?
@TemperatureVariation
@TemperatureVariation 14 жыл бұрын
Dr. Fred Goldberg- "We could have an ice age any time," Dr. Goldberg says, "Over the past one million years, we have experienced eight ice ages. Eighty percent of the last million years was ice age. We are lucky to live in this short inter-glacial period." english . peopledaily . com . cn/90001 /90777/ 90853/6959757 . ht ml
@MrOTLChamp
@MrOTLChamp 14 жыл бұрын
@Thisawareness Great points! Everyone should take note!
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@Nightversionn "Geologists are about to consider whether humans themselves have started to influence the geological history of the world." There ya go nighty! Finally you agree in the population being the biggest factor in harming the environment! That will be so cool when everyone sees the only thing that can save the planet is balancing population with nature. Awesome! Right on nightversionn!
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@Nighttversionn you have totally lost it I'm afraid to say. lol I like it! :-D
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
"Vegetable Man" Continued They don't make long of my nylon socks, The watch, black watch My watch with a black face And a big pin, a little hole, And all the lot is what I got, It's what I wear, it's what you see, It must be me, it's what I am, Vegetable man. I've been looking all over the place for a place for me, But it ain't anywhere, it just ain't anywhere. Vegetable man, vegetable man, He's the kind of person, you just gonna see him if you can, Vegetable man.
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
Gore's business partners set to cash in, again! Goldman Sachs Wants You to Pay-by-the-Mile to Drive on U.S. Roadways Wall Street banks, led by Goldman Sachs, started advising states across the nation on how to raise fast money by diverting the most necessary publicly owned assets-roads-into private ownership Goldman Sachs has played a remarkable role advising states on how to structure privatization deals-even while positioning itself to invest in the toll road market.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@BellicoseVeins please explain!
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@buchedda Nightversionn's comment: "Weather in one region over days or months should not be confused with climate or the patterns of weather over decades and centuries" Is it always true or not? Why doesn't it apply to the topic we were discussing about France?
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@Nightversionn wow you got to work early today nightversionn! Great to make a little overtime pay eh? say hi to Lloyd Blankfein for me
@Lights3287
@Lights3287 14 жыл бұрын
I also read in the year 2050, around 1/3 of the world species will also go extinct due to global warming. =(
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
Nightv, Is Eric Massa the groper your relative?
@Thisawareness
@Thisawareness 14 жыл бұрын
"Vegetable Man" In yellow shoes I get the blues Though I walk the streets with my plastic feet With my blue velvet trousers, make me feel pink There's a kind of stink about blue velvet trousers In my paisley shirt I look a jerk And my turquoise waistcoat is quite out of sight But oh oh my haircut looks so bad Vegetable man how are you? So I've changed my dear, and I find my knees, And I covered them up with the latest cut, And my pants and socks all point in a box,
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together. beatles
@philonetic
@philonetic 14 жыл бұрын
A quote from his speech - "The issue of catastrophic global warming, which I would like to speak about today, fits perfectly into this mold. Much of the debate over global warming is predicated on fear, rather than science."
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
@Niightversionn We have to stop water vapor now! Anyone caught hanging clothes out to dry should be fined.
@philonetic
@philonetic 14 жыл бұрын
Your willing perversion of wit and intelligence though are in abundance, and portray a persona of elementary rhetoric and prose. I applaud your endeavors in evasion of substantiality, and the knowledge that one cannot commit to your brave stand against adulthood and maturity, and stand by your side in the dismissal of the true state of being, truly pains me. You my good man can discern facts and form predictions with the acumen of an economist. If you think this means you, you're right.
@KnighttVision
@KnighttVision 14 жыл бұрын
lol that's too funny! buchedda basically just said nightversionn is a liar! lol
@TemperatureVariation
@TemperatureVariation 14 жыл бұрын
Recent news via iceagenow: Snow showers in Rose, NY -8 May 10 Record snow in Rapid City - 7 May 10 Snow invading the northern Plains - 6 May 10 8 - 10 inches of snow for North Dakota - 6 May 10 Snow in "sunny" Spain - Coldest May since records began - 6 May 10 Snow In Southern France - 5 May 10 Again? Yet another Alberta snowstorm! - 5 May 10 "Very rare" snow in 18 municipalities in Mexico - 2 May 10 Back to Ice Age?- Coldest in Korea in 100 years - 28 Apr 10
@PainTrain87
@PainTrain87 14 жыл бұрын
@MarkNobes What "other" 4000+ years are you referring? I cannot answer a question that is not written well, and doesn't have a specific time frame. That is on you.
@FrarmerFrank
@FrarmerFrank 14 жыл бұрын
Take the Pre-supposing that CO2 drives Tempature that has to be manually programed into the Computer Simulations The Only way that the Glorified Simearth Program can ever be right with that parameter is if Co2 actually drove tempatures (It does notm the CO2 is comming from the same source as the added heat,Mantle Pluming)
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