hey dudes - I want to quickly clarify some points, since it seems I didn't give them a proper explanation in the vid: 1) There are *definitely* items in TF2 that benefit teammates, such as Soldier banners, mad milk, sandvich, etc. These are great items but they are supplementary to each class "core" role - for example, a Soldier's "core" moveset is centered around high amounts of rocket damage. He has the ability to provide *minor* team buffs with buff banner (as a tradeoff for less shotgun damage) but his core kit is built to deal damage, not to buff teammates. By comparison, MANY Overwatch characters have a "core" moveset that is entirely based around benefiting teammates. Reinhardt's single most important move is his shield, and it DRAMATICALLY increases the power level and effectiveness of a team. TF2 Soldier can buff his team, but never in the core way that Reinhardt's character is designed to do, or Orisa with her shield, or Lucio with heal aura, or Dva with defense matrix, etc. The way I phrased this in the video sounded like TF2 characters have ZERO team buff abilities, which is obviously incorrect - that's a dumb oversight by me. The intended point was to compare Overwatch characters being fundamentally designed around team buffs, versus TF2 characters being fundamentally designed around damage output, but I should have worded this better. 2) I am aware competitive TF2 exists! I competed in a season of UGC Highlander, played a bunch of TF2 lobbies, watched tournaments, etc. TF2 is my most played videogame (1600 hours), so I've experienced every aspect of it. But in this video I was deliberately narrowing the focus to "Casual TF2" versus "Casual Overwatch", as I believe this is how 90% of players experience both games, and it's the part that I am personally drawn to. As I laid out in the video, I feel that the casual playstyle of these two games offer vastly different fundamental experiences. That being said, I think I failed to give competitive TF2 proper credit here, and even implied that competitive TF2 *cant* exist, which is absolutely not true. I love comp tf2, I will continue to play comp tf2, and absolutely didn't mean to shun the scene. With both points, I think I tried to oversimplify things and ended up leaving out major game elements in the process. I really do appreciate the feedback on these though - I'm brand new to the "video essay" format so I'm still making mistakes, but trying to improve at it as fast as I can and will keep trying to improve for future videos thanks again. Luv ya'll

TF2 Community: Yo Valve can we have a TF2 Heavy update? Valve: Heres a Durian

Overwatch: "You fight with honor" TF2: *SCOTLAND IS NOT A REAL COUNTRY, YOU ARE AN ENGLISHMAN IN A DRESS*

Overwatch: Please work together and be nice TF2: Here's an achievement for making someone ragequit

Overwacth: ok guys we have to work together as a team Tf2: I'm gonna use a fish to kill people

Overwatch Voicelines: Heroes never die! TF2 Voicelines: Stars and stripes beat hammer and sickle. Look it up

Overwatch: Teamwork is the only way to win Tf2: Here's a bottle of piss

update on the current state of the restaurants: overwatch has shut down its first location to make a second one across the street while still serving the same foods. tf2's restaurant manager has said "hey I'm gonna go home for a bit ill leave the door and the lights on, jerry the janitor will make sure no-one breaks anything, have fun" and the restaurant hasnt 're-opened' but jerry has kept things interesting and the community is still having fun.

Overwatch lines: Heroes never die Tf2: I have done nothing but teleport bread for 3 days

I like the fact that durian isn't even a character. It's just a *durian*

OW voicelines: "Heroes never die!" TF2: "Here lies Scout. He ran fast and died a virgin"

Overwatch: “We have to work together!” TF2: “hey guys lets push this afk person out of base”

Overwatch: If one person goes off track the entire team loses Tf2: PRESS KILL-BIND FOR FUNNI

Overwatch: We're a team! Spy with Kunai and Dead ringer: I am the team.

Overwatch voice lines: “I will fight for honor” etc. Tf2 voice lines: “WAVE GOODBYE TO YA HEAD, YA WANKER!”

Turns out this video was even more accurate than we realised at the time: Fruit and Veg rots way quicker than chocolate...

Bots in tf2 are basically finding a razor blade in your snickers.

Overwatch: You fought with honor. TF2: *literally has an emote that allows you to kill somebody with a fart*

Valve counting to 3: One Two *Here’s a durian*

Overwatch: That restaurant round the corner that’s failing because they’re trying to expand business very badly TF2: That one food truck which has been going around the town for decades without changing but is still extremely popular

Fun fact: I used a Doug Doug style food analogy to explain the differences between the ways tf2 and overwatch have their characters and it was like this Playing a TF2 character is like buying a pizza, extremely customizable, you can play soldier normally with pepperoni’s and cheese and stuff OR you change into rocket jumper and parachute and eat Hawaiian Playing an Overwatch character however is like ordering a pre prepared meal from a restaurant, like sure you could totally eat that steak with your bare hands but you’re *supposed* to eat it with a knife and fork and as such Overwatch characters very much have a specific way of playing them that you’re *supposed* to do

Going off meta in Overwatch: **punished by teammates** Going off meta in Tf2: **comedy achieved**

You get banned in Overwatch for being Toxic in chat In TF2 there is a literally achievement for throwing *piss* at a enemy

Quick update: Overwatch is like a restaurant but they use burnt oil and deliver everything late, also, the server ate 3/4 of the meal and is screaming at you because you didint gave him a 30$ tip for a shitty 4$ meal.

This hits so differently after the news, I didn't think this debate would ever be "over". But now... it's done.

Overwatch: "Heros never die!" Tf2: " Piss in a jar. Take it or leave it."

So basically, Overwatch is a four star restaurant and TF2 is that one legendary taco truck.

Then there's overwatch 2, which is perfectly designed to _look_ tastier than the first cake, but then you take a bite and the frosting is just waxy (in a bad way), the cake itself is dense and tasteless, and then you go to leave and it turns out the single slice they gave you cost as much as the whole first cake, plus extra for the little chocolate flowers they added to make the plate look nice.

How poorly this video has aged, and it's an unfortunate case of Blizzard's negligence. Rest in Peace Overwatch 1, we will miss you. And... LONG LIVE TF2!

Blizzard: nOoO yOu cAn'T mAKe pOrN Of oUr cHaRaCtErS Valve: heheh scout's mom go bonjour

Overwatch: guys get on the objective TF2: if you cap, you have a small pp

And now overwatch's kitchen is burning... And TF2 won't add any new menu items... this really is the worst timeline

TF2 custom maps were what made me love TF2 so much back in the day. It made the game

Overwatch: “Fight for honor.” TF2: “This... is a bucket.” “Dear God...” “There’s more.” “No!”

Overwatch: "Hero's never die" TF2: "and when the patient woke up, his skeleton was missing, and the Doctor was never heard from again! Anyway... That's how I lost my medical license."

I'm a bit _late_ but i think Tf2 would be more comparable to a burger. every piece alone tastes great, and you don't need to change it, like a mea-vy (meat+heavy) is amazing alone. and some pieces tastes not as great alone, like med-bread, or cond-ineer (condiment + engineer). But can still be eaten differently, like battle med-ettes (baguettes). However, all together taste better, (in casual, sure mea-vy can taste fine alone, but with a med-bread, it makes it greater.) And you don't need everthing, you can have a mea-vy, a med-bread, maybe a cond-ineer if your on defense, but you don't need a pick-out (pickle+scout). It even goes farther like, having too much spy-matoes, can begin to taste bad, and for a stable team, you should probably have 2 med-breads.

Overwatch then: we multiple fruits and veggies ( heroes and characters ) Overwatch now: seems that the fruits and veggies has expired, what ever we will still put them on the shelf’s.

Overwatch:NoOoO hOw dArE yOu NoT cHoOsE ThE mEtA Tf2: 2 scout with a fish and a frying pan top scored

Overwatch: Teamwork makes the dream work. TF2: One Demoman is enough to destroy you all.

I wonder how is that Overwatch cake doing right now...

"what if i want to make my own meal?" OW: dude you're at a fucking restaurant go home

Overwatch: has fans making porn TF2: literally makes it themselves

OVERWATCH: banned for saying ggwp Tf2: _achievement for making someone ragequit_ (BarbeQueQ)

Overwatch: mixed together they can beat anything Tf2: RANDOM BULLSHIT GO!

I feel like you could also describe tf2 using s’mores. They are all great on their own, you got the mallows and chocolate and grahams, but then when you put ‘em together over a nice fire it is a amazing delicious unison of flavors.

So basically Overwatch is a military squad and TF2 is like a bunch of hired mercenaries.

Missed oppurtunity to call Reaper a “Carolina Reaper”

Me: "Hey dougdoug can you make more content like this video!" DougDoug: "Heres a durian"

Here is me comparing all tf2 classes to treats, in accordence with the gameplay and this videos metaphore, because I play too much tf2. Scout is like a lollipop, tastes great but is best enjoyed seperatly, as putting them in the frey with the rest will just result in you chewing it to pieces get to the other candy, or removing it and putting it somewhere else because of his low hp and high evasion. Best on flanks, and in 1v1's. Solider is the classic candy bar, allways delichious, never mixes poorly with other candy, and capable of being a well rounded snack all on it's own. Everyone likes the solider, and picking him is never a bad idea, the ideal iconic tf2 experience (and incidentally my least played class, so no bias its just a great class). Pyro is like jeallybeans because it's very easy to like, and is nice alongside almost any collection of candy, but it mostly comes down to just being flavored sugar, and you at some point realize that even though the skill cealing is relatively high in theory, in practise mastery gives diminishing returns, making it easy to feel like developing skill doesn't do much, but tf2 is casual, and skill makes it more fun so definetly still worth it. Demoman is non-stop; a tasty and sweet treat, but only eating non-stop can feel a bit limited. Works great when mixed with other candy, and allways wellcome, unless there is too much spam. Heavy is like a bowl of ice cream, works excellently on his own but definetly benefits greatly from allies, being so slow to eat and vulnerable to flanking classes. Heavy benefits greatly from topping, and can provide a lot of damage and tanking to a team, but only if people play along with him. Engineer is more like a bowl of salted roasted nuts, that goes with anything, elevating their flavor notably, but is a neat snack on it's own just kinda limited, though this is made up for by the variety of nuts out there, and how just a little honney or sirup can make it a nutty bar, and suddenly you have a more worthy lone snack (battle engie). Medic is like a soft drink that helps the thirst so you can eat more candy, it definetly elevates the experience, and can be considdered essential, but you haven't really had candy with just medic. While a snack is allways nice, many would argue it's not snacktime without a tasty drink to go with it. Spy is like liqerish, due to it's unique flavor. It can be sweet or salty, depending on whether you have aquired the taste for it, but in the end it remains a candy that many find anoying in a bag of mixed candy, especially if there are a lot of them. Sniper is like boubblegum, you hardly ever mix it with anything else, and (unless you use the huntsman) probably messed up if you find yourself on the frontline. Some people find the chewing itritating, and don't like finding gum everywhere.

In OW, every person I’ve ever played with took the game incredibly seriously. In TF2, I once played with a guy who just sat in spawn and read Fahrenheit 451 into the voice chat the entire game. Safe to say, I prefer TF2

Overwatch: Alright everyone, let's do this! TF2: *_IF GOD HAD WANTED YOU TO LIVE HE WOULD NOT HAVE CREATED ME_*

Good ol’ classic. The first Doug Doug video I ever watched and now I’m a massive fan, godbless this bell pepper

We can all agree Overwatch and TF2 are both relatively niche communities of fun players with fun people who both deal with their fair share of shenanigans when they're just trying to come home from work and game, especially Mann vs. Machine II in TF2 pubs.

"Engineer is an obvious exception, as he is designed to help the team as a whole." Battle Engies: Haha, Gunslinger go VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Me: Valve please add more anti-cheat software Valve: heres wutville

Valve doesn't sexually asault their employees.

so overwatch is having to follow a set of lego instructions TF2 is just "here's a bunch of legos. do whatever you want" Or Overwatch is having a good nanoboost TF2 is having a customizable sandvich

But there's only one thing Overwatch can't achieve, *_Comedy._*

So basically TF2 is Chaotic Neutral and Overwatch is Lawful Neutral

The most ironic parties is they both ended up losing the war, not to each other but to there creators.

Im here today because the greatest rival of TF2 died. RIP Overwatch, you may have not killed TF2 (and in my opinion wasnt better), but you sure was a good one, you will be missed, by your fans but also by the ones who said they hated you

Overwatch: Bans You for being toxic Tf2: achievement for making someone ragequit as pyro

Missed opportunity to call Pyro “Papayro” is in Pyro and Papaya.

7:20 and then some rotten banana said "Hey Guys I took every way that is free of customizing your character and I packed it here" and that's how free item servers were born

What if you Wanted to go to heaven But god said : *_Here's a durian_*

Hey Valve, how about a solution to the bot problem? Valve: ... here’s a durian

Overwatch: You guys have to work as a team to make this cake! TF2: The kitchen door is open, GO NUTS!

Medic is Hershey’s And engineer is milk They work well by themselves, but go better with their team

3:55 that autobalance part makes me laugh every time

The fact saxton hale mode is now official

Overwatch: we gotta work together, stick to the plan! TF2: Guys, let's all play scout but only use the pan.

"Well, then it just tastes like a big, chocolate-y mess" But it's a good big, chocolate-y mess

And this... this is the video that made me find my favorite content creator... Parkzer.

6:35 The best part of this bit is that Overwatch could've introduced more customization to their characters as they actually advertised unlockable character customization as part of the pve mode that they promised back in 2017... Safe to say that aged that fine wine

I've never thought I'd hear "Spiener" "Demonana" "Soldierflower" "Briguette" "Widowmango"

Very insightful! I skipped the "Explained with Food" part of the channel until now for some reason, but now I realize I was a fool to do so!

The biggest difference, to me, is that Overwatch takes itself seriously and TF2 does not.

Over watch: I couldn’t have won that without my team! Tf2: ENTiRE TEAM IS BABIES

Yeah, but now in TF2 it's like having a delicious Snickers, but a bot put a razor blade in it.

Since OV2 oofed itself! I've gotten to a conclusion of my own. That if it's frustrating to bake a cake, you can always turn to the sweets and goods from TF2

"Well the difference bein' one is a job and the other is a mental sickness"

OW: Winning With A Perfect Team **SATISFIED** TF2: Making A Conga Line With Enemy Team **SATISFIED**

Overwatch Team: WHAT KIND OF DEFENCE IS THIS that one demoknight: I AM THE DEFENCE

Medic is nuts in general and Engi is Caramel, since you would snack on nuts and maybe add some flavor to it and caramel goes good on it's own and can be mixed up but they both work well with other candies.

I LOVE tf2 because the players are chill and winning is not the main objective. This is why servers turn friendly and I love it. Deployed a dispenser and the scouts on the other team surrounded in yelling for one. I think tf2 and overwatch shouldn't be compared since they are two games meant for different types of players. You can't compare them like one apple and one better tasting apple. You have to compare them like an apple and a cucumber. Still comparable but not the same thing.

Aim bots are like candy bars as well but they snuck razor blades inside your snickers

Ow: you can get banned for typing "ez" in chat Tf2: you can whip a black man to make him go faster

This is one of my favorite Doug Doug video saga’s

I was once in a TF2 game where we talked about early 2000s cartoons and our early days of TF2, and eventually both teams formed a giant conga line to push our payload to the end of the level lol, this was just about 6 months ago, its good to see, makes me feel like this game will be around for a long, long time

Ah yes, my favorite candy bar: Hershey’s Chocolate Syrup

Ow: you will be more effective and each person progress affect more TF2: *Scout flank 1v10 the enemy and everyone dies cause of 2 spies*

May I point out that while other classes have benefit items, and Medic and Engie both benefit the team quite obviously, Pyro is advertised as an Offense when they can be used to: Assist your Engie, Airblast (to extinguish teammates and reflect enemy projectiles), and even at some points win battles that could greatly assist your team when they are trying to cap the point, intel, or deliver the payload. Technically, I see there to be 3 support classes in TF2, those obviously being Medic, Engineer, and Pyro. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Side Note: Yes, I saw the pinned comment, but he never mentions Pyro so I thought I should clarify.

Overwatch is like that one old man who is on life support while tf2 is the guy who might not be as young as he used to be but still living life to the fullest. Long live tf2

Interesting fact: TF2 has a "Custom weapons" servers. That means that community also creates the ingredients, not only food

One of my favorite things about TF2 is they achieved game balance by making EVERY class overpowered. Any single TF2 class would be insane in almost any other game (especially at the time of its initial release). Heavy's main weapon is a minigun for God's sake, and spy can literally turn invisible and one-hit kill you, then pretend to be you and kill your team mates. That would be INSANE to add to any multi-player game, especially a competitive FPS... but then when you also have a guy with a fucking flame thrower that can repel projectiles, and a guy that can instantly heal any team mate and turn them invincible for a short time, all the insane overpowered bullshit, weirdly, start to balance each other out, which I think is part of the reason TF2 characters feel so good. If you're playing a TF2 class well, you feel like a god, or a badass video game end boss at the very least.. and when you die, it either feels like you didn't do good enough and you know it, or you can blame the other guy's overpowered nonsense. When you die in overwatch, you feel like an idiot, and people let you know it, and when you succeed you do so knowing a large part of that success came from good teamwork, not you alone.

0:29 "Eating a candy bar taste great on their own like you don't need any other foods to make Snickers taste good." The Snickle: *Am I a joke to you?*

Im new to this channel and I’ll have to say, it’s a very interesting way on how you’ve explained the 2 games. Really creative way of explaining it 👍

Overwatch: had a problem with tracer pose TF2: "Yeah I slapped My bum!"

Me: "Can you please remove bots" Valve: ...................... *HERE'S A NEW MAP*

but ow2 you can customiz- oh they canceled it