Happy to hear it! And yeah, one of the reasons for me to start this channel is to show folks what the configuration, which a lot of the YT reviews seem to miss. That said, happy to hear you found it useful. (This message was typed on the Glove80 by the way)

Thats a fair comment! I have tried it briefly and while it does work ... I can see myself build a more extreme tenting solution for my needs. There is a nice and inspiring community in their Slack channel and I am eye balling what folks do in the meantime.

Ah yeah I can imagine those super lightweight keys to be very interesting. My moonlander currently carries tactile sunset switches which are also very nice in terms of tactile experience.

Oh the Glove80 totally can be tented, just to be clear. But it does involve more handywork on the users' side.

Yeah, it is really great at forcing good typing habbits.

Happy to hear it!

Interesting! I find the typing experience while using the palm rest to be very nice. But will give it a try!

That is true for most keyboards, but according to the MoErgo guy on their Discord they designed the palm rest for typists to rest their palm lightly while typing. Not the whole palm, just the “ball”, I guess. I find it extremely comfortable whereas resting my palms on padded rests when using other keyboards causes pain and numbness. In fact, MoErgo has released STL’s for parts of the keyboard but won’t release anything of the palm rest as that seems to be their most prized creation.

I would not mind giving that a spin, but I do find the device to be *very* expensive. I am keeping an eye on 2nd hand sites for them. I also hear that their software is pretty poor, especially given the amount of money that you pay for the device.

I am eager to give that Advantage device a spin but found it to be *very* expensive given the other options that are out there today. But I do agree, the layout you program on the board can make such a big impact!

All in due time. This hobby 'aint cheap 😅. If you are willing to sponsor one I will gladly give it an extended look though!

Its more coincidence than anything else that the Raise cable lies there to be honest 😅 The HHKB suprises me a bit yeah ... isnt that positive tilt something that you end up feeling in your wrist?

@@calmcode-io haha i use also that cable really a lot, i was one of the first Persons, which got the first Raises have the Serial Number 31 the wrote it on the PCB per Hand haha 🤣😅. Its a good Keyboard, i have really to say it 👍❤️. For the HHKB, i think its the angle of they Keys, the Layout and the Topre Switches ❤️. I dont have wristpain anymore, no Burning in the Fingers, my pinky feels alive after 10 Hours of Working and i type really a lot... I type like on clouds on the HHKB, its smooth, you have a little Tactile Bump, and then the pushback. Hard to describe, a mushy but Crispy Marshmallow keystroke, without this hard buttonout. They Layout, short ways, easy to learn, on Mac easy to programm via Karabiner and on Win with AHK. First day i was meh i dont like it, but i kinda like it. Second Day i type and type, i felt in Love. Now its even lubed, i give all my Keyboard just to keep the HHKB really... Give it a try its also on Amazon if you dont like it Return it. I fight almost 3 3/4 years with RSI, with the HHKB its gone, i have Glove 80, Dygma Raise incl Tentingkit, K860, Wave Keys, E GO-Split, Kinses Frestyle and Advantage 360. All this keyboards have a flaw, the keys and the Pinky stretch, in my opinion. A mechanical switch ist 90% a hard Buttonout, the silent switches a kinda softer but wenn you have RSI you want it soft, like a pillow. The Famouse Pinky strech its gone really... The short layout, even the arrow keys press fn, the arrows are next to it.. incredible simple but clever Design... And the biggest Problem what all make all wrong, dont wrest on the Palmrest, hoover a bit over the Keyboard. It feels strange but the fingers have to point a bit down the wristankle have to be straight with the arm, the best you make a V with your arms, Ellbows Out and the hands together like you split the Raise in a V Shape. Then you dont need any splitkeyboard and any palmrest, i made also always the mistake Palmrest ahh i dont lift my arms, but you have really... What i wanted to say Maybe it helps me, the HHKB and others not, but if you can try it then try it. RSI is difficult, can be a Pain, a burning in the fingertips, can be a Discomfort, a blocking fingers, fingers you cant feel, ellbow Pain, lifting arms problem... Once you have it and you work on PC, you want to get it rid of RSI. But everyone feels different.

Sorry for my bad english, im from Austria, Speak 5 Languages perfect, but my english was always bad 😅.

@@JakobRosenstein88 I was eager to give the HHKB a try but it seems like that keyboard does not allow for homerow modifications. If that were configurable it would be a lot easier for me to consider.

@@JakobRosenstein88 interesting. Yeah, the HHKB is interesting enough to me that I am keeping an eye on ebay for it. If a good deal comes around then I will definately buy it. I am pretty sure I will miss the split nature of the other boards, but who knows ... time might tell

I might explore a cheap, albeit programmable keyboard first. A split keyboard can really take a while to get used to, especially if the layout is different from what you are used to.

You're not the first to comment on it. But the simple truth is that this is a small little corner in an attic of a small Dutch house. You may enjoy looking at my review of the UHKv2 in the meantime or the Dygma Raise. Will also review another split keyboard with row stagger soon that is also worth a look. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pKmFfa5q36q8oH0.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ocx8Y6pm3seteGw.html

Just imagine: a version of the Glove80 that also carries a trackball for mouse movement. Might get seriously close to an endgame keyboard!

@@calmcode-io How would you compare the Glove80 vs the UHK ? I saw you also have that one, I'm on the fence between these two and also considering the Voyager but less so than these two. Which one would you recommend? The Glove80 seems more ergonomic with the keywell but the UHK seems more sturdy and has the flexibility of adding modules later. Anyway just looking for feedback from someone who has used both. Thanks!

@@martmelee they are both great. I have found recently that if I use the UHKv2 for a long time that my wrist issues flare up again. This is not unique for the UHKv2, all row staggered boards have this effect it seems. If you do not suffer from this, the UHKv2 can be a great option but if RSI is your main concern I would explore the Glove80. Recommendations are very tricky though because so much of this is personal. I mainly hope that my videos help give a reasonable impression in a way that helps.

I only use two thumb keys really so the thumb does not move in my setup. For proper advice please check in with a medical professional as well.

I was simply to early in the video with this question, but for anyone wondering the same thing, it's the red pros.

Yep! Pro reds!

It's hard to quantify "a lot". But here's an attempt. If 10 is the unachievable level of perfect comfort and if 5 is a macbook pro keyboard ... then the Moonlander is a 7.5 and the Glove80 is a 9. Don't forget about the quality of the Moonlander software though because it really shines there!

@@calmcode-io yeah I imagine it's pretty subjective too. I love my Voyager but it doesn't always feel comfortable, especially when using layers. Maybe I'm still adjusting.

@@cp3io one of the things that I really enjoy from exploring these different keyboards and layouts is that they also force me to consider different ways to configure the boarrd. For example: it seems that enter works better for me under a layer. I only learned this by forcing myself to use a split keyboard that only has one button per thumb. My advice here isn't to go on a shopping spree. But perhaps to take a piece of paper and to start from first principles and design a layout from scratch. It can also be great to pay attention to what actions you often do on your machine and to figure out shortcuts for that.

Did you mean voyager instead of moonlander here? i'm deciding between a voyager and glove80 so really appreciate your reviews!

Imo the concavity is the killer feature of the glove. You could also have a look at the kinesis but i chose the glove because the lightness make it really easy to put in the backpack when i go to the office