Why don’t we talk about the crime that these girls parents committed by putting them on the pageant circuit and they were six years old? And now the mothers are out there crying for their little babies? Give me a break.

​@buffalobilly6046 ok one has absolutely nothing to do with the other

I agree! I hope the Pageant queens get to speak out and tell their side of the story.

It is

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And Donald Trump used to own this organization...

@@lesleyatcofo No surprises there...

How can you be groomed as an adult or if you just say no to older men? And they both didnt quit from 1 experience from 1 contestant.

​@@lesleyatcofo- funny that many to most contestants want the Trump days back because it was run so well and the expectations are reasonable. The story of Trump being in the dressing room was completely de-bunked but media put that on the back burner. Ever notice how media doesn't use it anymore to discredit Trump?

​@@Tihnie- apparently a lot more is coming out on Thursday. So far, Noelia said she was threatened with her salary if she didn't do certain things. Smh.

You will not get the job if you don't sign an NDA... Many, many companies/corporations have them

​@@ejeanroh377- yes many companies have them to protect their intellectual property, tech designs, etc., but the Miss USA NDA is a predatory one.

Unfortunately many of them seemed pressured to sign because you do the signing almost immediately from being crowned :(

It’s always the MEN involved. Maybe they should be barred. Really! You can’t control what they say to young girls-!? But then you go and control what the young girls have to say about them-!?

I like that distinction!​@@jaynethyson4817

Correct. I am a former law student. You sound like an attorney. ; )

So there is now a crime in a man asking a woman if she likes older men? It’s creepy for sure but maybe she does many young women do! My God what we can’t talk now to each other? She just was in a contest that was all about her tits and ass. It certainly wasn’t about her brain… She’s not a neuroscientist she’s not an astronaut she’s not a wizard. She wasn’t you know inventing something to save humanity. She pranks around with her tits and ass out and One OK so some older guy thinks you’re attractive and hits on you.. she’s an adult! She can’t handle a guy hitting on her wow🙄

Too many usage of NDAs in inappropriate situations ! NEver sign one without having your lawyer reviewing it . And using it to hold someone hostage to truth and transparency…..Really ? So there was some misbehaving happening , huh ???? Shameful that these pageantry heads won’t hold people accountable for proper and descent behaviour. After all that we went through hearing about Weinstein ….. SMH 🤦‍♀️.

So there was no crime committed then

​@@rivenadeshizzle pretty sure the entire video was about unsafe working conditions including sexual harassment which would fall under both criminal activity and your person being in danger. I think in this case the girls know they're up against rich and powerful people and are scared of speaking out or they have been very misinformed about NDAs

Brave women.

Same.

The audacity in “we can’t control what they say to you but we can control what you say about them,”

Exactly not surprised

3 months for Savannah (& her mum) to experience what Noelia had gone through in 7 months. I suspect the organisation will be on its best behavior given the spotlight it is under.

How sad they should have left that alone instead of licking the boots of the Miss USA organization that was unnecessary and made both of them look very shallow

FUNNY when the only reason she even won is because someone stepped down - let her have her pitty win and look stupid along with her mother

@tootietootie9414 she didn't actually win she is a substitute an understudy her crowning comes with a footnote and the crown she wears has been discarded and tarnished

Savannah's soul is even more tarnished than her discarded crown

Same 💔

I’m so glad you said this!!!

Oh yes! Thank you 🙏 for saying it!

Yep. I hardly hear anyone mentioning her in relation to this!

Cheslie Kryst's own father said her depression / sadness was caused by "Family Dysfunction". So, maybe it all starts in the family while growing up?

Pageants will never go away because they still have a positive impact on those who participate in them. I think people need to know more about these contests in depth before making such judgments.

No

Nonsense, there are people who genuinely love and support the pageant industry. Miss USA is going through an incredibly rouch patch right now and that's all due to the wrong decisions being made by people who had hiring power. However, globally pageants have proven to be cultural beacons of country's (in this regard I think of the Miss France pageant which is incredibly well run and functions to be of service to the French people, they love it). Pageants when used and lead correctly can also become powerful platforms that affirm women and aid in giving them a voice to share and advocate for their causes (in this regard I think of the 'Miss South Africa' pageant which on an international level has challenged traditional beauty standards, has had amazing winners who till this day work with international advocacy and empowerment bodies to better the lives of ordinary people, women and children. It's not always about the glitz and glamour, playing dress up and walking in bikinis like a lot of you all in your limited perceptions understand pageantry to be. And it's really important that before making such blanket statements you take the time to research their value and purpose, thereafter you'll understand why they're a social good.

@@PungiFungiI completely agree. This has more to do with the organization itself than the contestants

I’m so with you

😂 empty words and claws come out as soon as a slightly petty girl who doesn’t make you feel absolutely delighted is in your presence❤ stop y the fakers please

Easy to say. Women are catty and so competitive.

@@zzizahacallarbecause society pits us against one another.

- this is the first year of Laylah Rose as CEO/president but before her was Crystal Stewart who not only had conflicts if interest but her husband s-e-x-ually harassed some contestants...sending out 🍌 videos to them and more.

Previous winner's experience will be different because Noelia and UmaSofia were the 1st titleholders under a new leadership of Layla Rose

Some mothers probably pushed their girls into these competitions, kind of like stage door mothers for children. They live their lives through their daughters. It would be interesting though, if other mothers, shared previous experiences from several years ago.

Yes these two stepped down but nothing will change! That's the problem! The bad people aren't prosecuted. They are just transferred and they move on... We need protesting! .

​@@ejeanroh377"bad people prosecuted"?? I'm sorry where was a crime committed in this story?

​@@Tihnie- reportedly there are lawsuits and in this case, more is coming out on Thursday according to some in the know.

@@Tihniewe didn't get any information because there is an NDA in place, implying crimes were committed though. Also sexual harassment is not supposed to be allowed.

these pagents shouldnt even exist anymore. It's 2024, how sick is it we parade little girls around??? And make that their defining career? Ugh.

Wow sure so sorry aunt 🙏😢

Women are already valued. They are exempted a lot of the things that men go through.

@@PungiFungi How someone is valued in society has no correlation with what they are or aren’t exempted from. Furthermore, one has to read the entire sentence, not cherry pick phrase within it, to capture the entire context. A context which is self-evident given the story I am commenting on.

@@xx133 it certain does and do not try to deflect with word salads. Women in general listen to argue, instead of listening to understand. Since you brought up economic inequality, it will continue because women are exempted from working the dangerous and labor intensive jobs that men do,

@@PungiFungi famously, coal mining is a very lucrative profession, and white collar jobs are low paying. Right. “Women listen to argue…not understand.” (Isn’t that what you are doing now?). Anyway you are proving my point-that women need to be valued more. Thanks. 🙄

@@PungiFungi test

Um, hate to break it to you, but females don’t have those.

​@holylandfan3275 We have them on the inside 😂

⁠@@holylandfan3275hate to break it to you. Some men, act like they don’t have them. 😂

@@variousJnames I’m female and I have courage, or faith that makes me strong, or brave, not testicles. It’s a filthy expression for men, or women.

@holylandfan3275 a lot of men. don't have them either they have testicles but no balls there is a difference!

They shouldn't have even won...NOW IT's BALANCED.

Exactly! Then, they win a literal BEAUTY pageant and can’t handle it when men hit on them. They act so innocent and horrified!

@@173eldthey are minors, no man should be hitting on a minor, that’s pedophilia! So sick of excusing men who are sexual predators, that’s not normal, it’s a mental illness and dangerous.

When she died she already passed her reign 2 years back

@@arin7981 I know I guess I mean, could there have been lasting truama from her time there. I also recognize that this girl had some demons she was struggling with.

@@watermelonieshait was different President back then .

@@emcemc7506 I'm sure. I'm not very familiar with the whole system of miss USA. Just saying maybe there could have been long term truama from her time there, I do acknowledge that girl had her own demons but competitions in general especially those in the limelight can be very very toxic.

That was under a different director. Plus Cheslie had issues before she even did Miss USA from what I understand. Her mother documented her hospitalization years before hand in her book.

Tell me you’re unattractive without telling me you’re unattractive.

We can’t control what they say to you, but we can control what you say about them…😮😮😮😮

Layla Rose is a Control Freak... but she cannot control abusive behaviour from others or herself on the queens...

Yep, I experienced sexual harassment at every job I held, until I worked for a feminist organization. It’s commonplace and management often looks away, even though it’s illegal by law.

In Mexico and Venezuela, speaking English sounds like a foreign accent. Almost as many people in the world speak Spanish as do English!

Great to see you guys talking about her, she changed the game for me.

You'll surely reach her

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You really don’t think men propositioned young Miss Universe girls before? Probably even more so. The only difference is that all those girls kept quiet about it.

This is not about the rules, these girls (minors) were working for the Miss USA organization. They have an obligation u dear US law to provide a safe workplace for minors and adults. They didn’t, and the girls suffered. Case closed.

Agreed...a bunch of old men hitting on young girls..Toxic

Society still doesn't really value women for anything more than their looks...until that happens these exploitative "competitions" will continue happening, along with the mess they bring

They go for scholarship money and better career opportunities. Networking with wealthy business owners.

Well society still values women primarily based on their looks, until that changes these "competitions" will continue going on and so will the mess that comes with them

Not really important in countries that are developed. But I wouldn’t say old fashioned bc it teaches girls how to be well rounded individuals. U clearly don’t understand the concept. Girls from Latin American, Asia and Africa do this to help themselves. Also being beautiful is just the marketing

She could be 18/19

You have to wonder because this is a woman that had everything going for her and maybe she was already suffering from depression but I've heard stories for years about how hard these girls are worked during their reign the pressure they're under not being protected from sexual harassment this is nothing new

@@johnfulton4061 This is just so shameful. Who knows what struggles they had before their reign.