History of Hypermodern Openings in Chess: Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

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2 ай бұрын

This lecture was recorded March 25, 2024 in Roswell, Georgia. Thank you to Eric Osgood for sponsoring this lecture!!
Games:
04:09 Richard Réti vs José Raúl Capablanca, New York 1924
12:07 Ben Finegold vs Melikset Khachiyan, US Championship 2013
20:18 Aron Nimzowitsch vs Stefano Rosselli del Turco, Baden-Baden 1925
29:07 Boris Kostić vs Ernst Grünfeld, Meisterklasse 1922
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Пікірлер: 101
@steven99456
@steven99456 2 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the game Frank Lee vs. Ree Diculous in the 1953 Zurich Supertournament
@xwngdrvr
@xwngdrvr 2 ай бұрын
S. Picious was the arbiter.
@flynncook7989
@flynncook7989 2 ай бұрын
H. Orable annotated
@xwngdrvr
@xwngdrvr 2 ай бұрын
@@flynncook7989 I recognize you. We served together in the Punic Wars.
@PatchworkPS
@PatchworkPS 2 ай бұрын
If you edit your comment to say "Reid Iculous" i'll delete mine
@mmmbellygirls
@mmmbellygirls 2 ай бұрын
Oh! That's the game with the famous Diculous blunder 9.f6??
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 2 ай бұрын
Dissappointed to learn after all this time that the Grunfeld Defence wasn't named after Grandmaster Defence.
@jaasonjones4419
@jaasonjones4419 2 ай бұрын
Wait until you hear who the Bongcloud opening was named after...
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 2 ай бұрын
@@jaasonjones4419 Grandmaster Opening?
@jaasonjones4419
@jaasonjones4419 2 ай бұрын
@@beeble2003 I'm not familiar with the works of mister Grandmaster
@jasmint6703
@jasmint6703 2 ай бұрын
"I may be old and bad but I'm up a piece." Ben Finegold
@smott7730
@smott7730 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Hypermodern Openings are named after Sir Lionel Hypermodern, who was also inventor of the microwave.
@xwngdrvr
@xwngdrvr 2 ай бұрын
He invented Global Warming.
@tutucox
@tutucox 2 ай бұрын
Hypermodern chess is the best , you can be the cool kid and be bad at the same time
@atwarwithdust
@atwarwithdust 2 ай бұрын
11:07 We should call that fork a "knork", combining a knife and fork.
@xwngdrvr
@xwngdrvr 2 ай бұрын
Rumor has it the Amish tend to frown on this type of opening. If you dont like the position at 13:31 you're Hippo Critical.
@user-or1vh5wf5j
@user-or1vh5wf5j 2 ай бұрын
Please, make part 2!
@Evilanious
@Evilanious 2 ай бұрын
The cow is not the hippo. It is a significantly more passive and suspicious setup where the knights are moved to b3 and g3, the center isn't influenced at all, and the bishops cry.
@douglaslarosa8782
@douglaslarosa8782 2 ай бұрын
As soon as I saw the lecture title, I was Réti to watch and comment it 🤓
@matthewpaul985
@matthewpaul985 2 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. Thank you.
@Iearnwithme
@Iearnwithme 2 ай бұрын
Really good lecture! Thanks for making these :))
@cardanoshield1326
@cardanoshield1326 2 ай бұрын
Very educational video, thank you!!
@sachatostevin6435
@sachatostevin6435 2 ай бұрын
oh man... that dig at Anna and The Cow!
@tarnumj7319
@tarnumj7319 2 ай бұрын
At 9:45 Ben didn't mention what would happen if black played Rxe3. I think that would be followed by fxe3, Qxd1, Ne6. Threatening Qg7 mate and black's queen, and black has no good checks.
@angrygary122
@angrygary122 2 ай бұрын
13:36 its a burn 🔥
@jire9831
@jire9831 2 ай бұрын
Kramling catching strays.
@shakohoto7901
@shakohoto7901 2 ай бұрын
Seirawan's birthday was Yasserday
@gcubegaming2756
@gcubegaming2756 2 ай бұрын
It's nice to see a lecture uploaded once in a while which wasn't recorded multiple years prior...
@isaacbragg-gardiner2456
@isaacbragg-gardiner2456 2 ай бұрын
Are they typically? I feel like most of his videos are recent. Obviously 5 minutes with Ben is recent if nothing else
@eoin6862
@eoin6862 2 ай бұрын
Both. Some are from a few years ago and some only a couple of weeks ago
@sergioaguis
@sergioaguis 2 ай бұрын
Thank you to the sponsors ❤️ Thank you Ben for the joy
@BawzGames
@BawzGames 2 ай бұрын
wish you all the best!
@kmarasin
@kmarasin 2 ай бұрын
Hypermodernism should be seen as a new way to look at chess, seeing it in terms of large scale structures and long term plans. While it doesn't work to ONLY think in these ways, it eventually was understood as a way to look for good moves; hypermodernism would suggest a move that should be looked at from a strategic perspective, and then it would be further analyzed tactically. This fusion was largely achieved by the interwar Russian/Soviet players including Alekhine, Botvinnik, Boleslavsky, and Bogolubow. They laid the foundation for the dominance of post-war Soviet chess and how the game would evolve right up to the turn of the 21st century, when computers changed things almost back to the way they were in classical chess, in their method of long precise calculation without any thought to positional ideas. Current players largely follow the computer's lead, leading to the decline of hypermodern ideas. With the discovery of the Berlin defense to the Ruy Lopez, classical 1. e4 openings returned with a vengeance.
@honeychurchgipsy6
@honeychurchgipsy6 2 ай бұрын
@kmarasin - thank you for your interesting and informative comment.
@jimmyballer7047
@jimmyballer7047 2 ай бұрын
Hey Ben! You only went 5 minutes before making a move on the board this time. What a wonderful appetizer!
@axeldenivet8421
@axeldenivet8421 2 ай бұрын
Merci Ben
@slimmamba7208
@slimmamba7208 2 ай бұрын
Solid analysis, clear explanations. Second only to Fabi.
@sanguine5108
@sanguine5108 2 ай бұрын
some crazy comment
@mario97br
@mario97br 2 ай бұрын
You can oftentimes sacrifice your d pawn in the advanced French in order to pin the knight with your bishop to the queen on b6 and create counterplay to the king on the queenside as white.
@stbauch1
@stbauch1 2 ай бұрын
This was a very hypermodern lecture!
@timothymiller806
@timothymiller806 Ай бұрын
This reminds me of Rufus vs Doofas 1869… rawr!!
@pauldow1648
@pauldow1648 2 ай бұрын
Hyper modern attack from flank only if opponent place pawns and pieces in the center
@Cobalt-Jester
@Cobalt-Jester 2 ай бұрын
I found my old travel computer chess machine. I was about 11 years old and it was my step granddad's... I learned how to play on that little machine. Because it was programmed in the early 80s with game variets of the time, it's really easy to beat on the highest level by playing the modern varients.
@skyline.....
@skyline..... 2 ай бұрын
i found i play better on the screen than over the board ,now i just need to try on the board
@werderlebenslang4576
@werderlebenslang4576 2 ай бұрын
Isn't the cow opening an invention of Anna Cramling? She is known for playing chess isn't she? Or does Ben mean she is known for streaming chess and not a professional chess player in the classical sense?
@sachatostevin6435
@sachatostevin6435 2 ай бұрын
I think he was just joking. I'm pretty sure they all respect eachother as professional chess-streamers, as they all collectively keep the subject interesting/popular, and together they increase eachothers views.
@derhonk6270
@derhonk6270 2 ай бұрын
@@sachatostevin6435Ben is never joking, how dare you!?
@opiedrums6969
@opiedrums6969 2 ай бұрын
Yea sounded like a slight to me. He just sounds bitter. I dont think she invented it but maybe made it popular.
@honeychurchgipsy6
@honeychurchgipsy6 2 ай бұрын
@@opiedrums6969 - I think she did invent it. I watched the video where she says that it had never been played before (or at least was not in any databases of games). Of course, if you saw some of the games I play with my 88 year old step dad it might lead you to believe the cow (or worse, much worse) has definitely been played.
@opiedrums6969
@opiedrums6969 2 ай бұрын
@honeychurchgipsy6 Bens literally playing it here back in the 90s. Again, I think she just made it popular and called it the cow.
@pulpsqwheeze7091
@pulpsqwheeze7091 2 ай бұрын
Go Hippopota-Ben!
@jefftaylor1186
@jefftaylor1186 2 ай бұрын
Invented by Aaron “Hank” Nimzo during the Spanish-American War
@kmarasin
@kmarasin 2 ай бұрын
Ironically, Yasser Seirawan wrote the forward to my copy of My System, purchased in the late 90s.
@JudgeHolden13
@JudgeHolden13 Ай бұрын
There are 999 repeats of hyper moderns in this video
@compassionate_badger
@compassionate_badger 2 ай бұрын
happy belated birthday yasser :)
@raskalnekov
@raskalnekov 2 ай бұрын
Ben nearly gave me an existential crisis once I realized I'll need a new favorite Beatles song at 64
@Mark8v29
@Mark8v29 2 ай бұрын
As a beginner would it make sense for me to have a harder-to-play hyper-modern Grunfeld or other such opening as one of the few openings I learn and use so I realise there is more to chess than classical and to confuse or educate myself and my fellow beginner sometimes and efficiently add variety to my games?
@ftr841
@ftr841 2 ай бұрын
Yes and no. I learnt the london as a classical chess opening. then learnt b3 because I realised I would know way more theory then my opponent who wasn't expecting it. But you have to accept it will go horribly wrong from time to time. See larsen v spassky
@JanKowalski-je7qf
@JanKowalski-je7qf 2 ай бұрын
@@ftr841 London is not a classical chess opening, it avoids conflict in the center. Classical chess opening would be some d4 with c4 fighting for the center by creating pawn tension.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 2 ай бұрын
As a beginner, there's no point learning a bunch of opening theory, because your opponent won't know the theory, so you won't get to play the moves you've learnt. They'll start making up moves from move two or three, and you'll be just as confused as them. The other problem with trying to play in a hypermodern style is that it's easy to end up in passive positions, and you quite often end up having to defend, which is hard. Give it a go and see if it works for you. But don't put a lot of time into it unless it'd going well.
@dm9910
@dm9910 2 ай бұрын
Honestly if you're a total beginner it doesn't matter that much: you haven't played enough to develop strong preferences yet and frankly, beginners don't find the tactics in sharp positions or the strategic plans in positional openings. Any sensible opening that involves getting pieces out and castling tends to more or less much converge into the same kind of chess at that level. Once you've got a bit more experience, openings start to matter a bit more and it mostly depends what you want to practice, what you're good at, or what you enjoy. For a sharp opening like the Grunfeld you want to be focusing on opening theory, tactics, initiative and dynamic counterplay. Whereas if you learn the London, it's more about finding a plan in a mostly-symmetrical position, understanding and exploiting positional weaknesses, and endgames. If none of those words I just said made any sense to you, you're still too early in your chess career to worry, just pick the opening you think looks the prettiest and you're good to go.
@mario97br
@mario97br 2 ай бұрын
Then I would add from „Chess King“ the app opening mistakes. There they show pretty good why a lot of stuff fails at some point. Hypermodern openings are for very patient personalities, who don’t feel too stressed when working with a lack of space and painfully unexpected f4-f5-f6 pushes from your opponent, so not necessarily the best for beginners who want to attack and calculate and see some action.
@mrcleanisin
@mrcleanisin 2 ай бұрын
When you are analyzing games based on their openings and you announce one side made a blunder how do you expect us to know if the opening is good or not?
@Stephendedalus044
@Stephendedalus044 2 ай бұрын
Has anyone counted how many times Ben says "Hypermodern" in the video?
@joefawcett2191
@joefawcett2191 2 ай бұрын
i often get told im playing the reti... nice to know he was a great player 😅🤣
@lush1us
@lush1us Ай бұрын
As a beginner, trying to ask chatGPT what's 'fee and keto' in chess 😂😂😂 (it got it right🎉)
@peace_in1move
@peace_in1move 2 ай бұрын
Truth liberates ✨️💋
@heyumnew1401
@heyumnew1401 2 ай бұрын
Grünfeld looking like inspector lunge with glasses 💀
@lqtmn
@lqtmn 2 ай бұрын
Like + comment for the algorithm etc. Mostly etc.
@alhfgsp
@alhfgsp 2 ай бұрын
I like to play hypermodern with black but classical with white
@calebparks8318
@calebparks8318 2 ай бұрын
22:18 Except for those of us watching on KZfaq.
@Kommaer
@Kommaer 2 ай бұрын
First I played flank openings most of all. After million blunders Now I am crushing the center with gambits and able to beat up to 1500 in daily with 100+ games opened. And it is my 10th month in chess journey! Your content is what I love the most, GM Benjamin Finegold!
@elevenears4785
@elevenears4785 2 ай бұрын
Hyperventilation is luft in the Pirc.
@user-no3nu7wv3h
@user-no3nu7wv3h 2 ай бұрын
Iam fifth one
@user-ul2kc3wx1h
@user-ul2kc3wx1h 2 ай бұрын
it's funny that you don't even mention the central themes of the hypermodern chess school, e.g. blockade and overprotection, as explained by Nimzo in his book in detail. That's what his entire "my system" is all about. You don't just give your opponent the center and that's it. You have to try to blockade these pawns and overprotect the squares before the pawns. As a matter of fact, you use them as shields for your pieces. It's not just about "fianchettoing the bishops and playing on the side". That's a far too simplistic way of explaining hypermodern. There's a famous game which highlights these principles perfectly, I can't remember at the moment against who, wasn't it even his arch nemesis Tarrasch? Nimzo crushed him by applying exactly those principles. Although you do generally the best lectures of all chess youtubers, this one's missing the mark a bit as it diminshes hypermodern to just "playing on the side". Simplification is fine, but taken too far it creates a false impression of what it actually is that you're trying to explain, if I was Eric, I'd be a bit disappointed, but as you admitted yourself, "Mein System" wasn't exactly your thing, so maybe worth reading it once more and then you could even demonstrate that Nimzo game in one of your next episodes.
@zacharyheflin6794
@zacharyheflin6794 2 ай бұрын
Well said
@sachatostevin6435
@sachatostevin6435 2 ай бұрын
he pretty much explained why - cos he read the book but found it boring, and then admitted that it might have been cos he was too young at the time.
@user-ul2kc3wx1h
@user-ul2kc3wx1h 2 ай бұрын
@@sachatostevin6435 so what? That doesn't justify to give a lecture on hypermodern without even explaining hypermodern. (except for "playing on the side") The truth hurts! ;-)
@rainerausdemspring3584
@rainerausdemspring3584 2 ай бұрын
Of course, "Mein System" was written in German.
@elevenears4785
@elevenears4785 2 ай бұрын
don't put your paws in the centre
@derhonk6270
@derhonk6270 2 ай бұрын
Is there a way to fight 1. e4 as black in a hypermodern way, that is well respected among top grandmasters? The Alekhine and the Pirc are not really. You might call the Sicilian dragon hypermodern, but it is not well respected either. Would you consider a Sicilian Najdorf or a Sveshnikov/Rossolimo a hypermodern opening?
@ludology7757
@ludology7757 2 ай бұрын
It doesn't. Matter what grandmasters play unless you are one, just play around with different openings till you find one you like😂
@derhonk6270
@derhonk6270 2 ай бұрын
@@ludology7757 Who do you think you are to judge what matters to me? I wanted to know, I am curious, so it matters to me. Why are you so rudely disregarding my curiosity? Of course, I will never need this kind of information to prepare against a Super-GM (and even if so, this would be a weird place to get my information from anyway), but that has not been the question...
@msye
@msye Ай бұрын
I think you can try the Nimzowitsch Defense (1.e4 Nc6). Carlsen used to play it when he doesnt want to get into home prep. If white plays d4 you continue with d5 and if white takes then you get what you wanted like in grunfeld defense. But if they push the pawn you can play Bf5 and transpose it into French defense where your light squared bishop is not sitting on c8 I checked games of Nimzowitsch. He generally plays the Nimzowitsch Defense, French Defense or Caro Kann against e4. You can play the Hippo but i cant say its well respected by top gms
@duncanglen3452
@duncanglen3452 2 ай бұрын
Get Ben a Perrier ffs
@zahirhamdard2213
@zahirhamdard2213 2 ай бұрын
Hey, i can't beat your chess bot😢
@skyline.....
@skyline..... 2 ай бұрын
get a bigger stick 👀
@zacharyheflin6794
@zacharyheflin6794 2 ай бұрын
And you can tell this is a hyper modern recorded lecture due to Ben’s old man lip smacking 😂. Jokes aside though I hope you see a doctor once in a while, I’m probably overthinking this but it as someone who is trained to observe and report signs & symptoms my first thought it’s a Neurological disorder & or a progressive degenerative disease. I’m not a doctor and my college credits amount to nothing as the school I attended lost it’s accreditation.
@spyroninja
@spyroninja 2 ай бұрын
Or maybe talking non stop for 40 minutes
@carneades4409
@carneades4409 21 күн бұрын
Osgood is not good? Very suspicious.
@carneades4409
@carneades4409 21 күн бұрын
I guess there's good and there's Osgood. That's Osgood.
@Raphael-rh6ru
@Raphael-rh6ru 11 күн бұрын
The amount of saliva in your mouth must be insane in the amount you’re smacking and slurping your spit in your mouth when you talk it’s so hard to listen to
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