GMO Tomatoes Could Be Returning After 25 Years. Will People Eat Them?

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The Wall Street Journal

The Wall Street Journal

Күн бұрын

British scientists have developed a genetically modified purple tomato that is packed with antioxidants: the same compounds that make fruits like blueberries and blackberries “superfoods.”
In lab experiments, cancer-prone mice whose diet was supplemented with purple tomato powder lived 30% longer than those who got regular tomato powder. This GMO tomato could get approved for sale in the U.S. this year. But will consumers bite, or will GMO unease get in the way?
0:00 Tomatoes that are fully purple aren’t available… yet
0:38 Genetically modified organisms 101
1:16 Purple tomato nutrition
2:33 The shelf life of purple GMO tomatoes
2:56 Are purple GMO tomatoes natural?
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@DanielaHernandezWSJ
@DanielaHernandezWSJ 2 жыл бұрын
Would you eat genetically modified tomatoes? Why or why not?
@agisler87
@agisler87 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! GMO shouldn't be feared. Defining what is "natural" isn't simple either.
@DanielaHernandezWSJ
@DanielaHernandezWSJ 2 жыл бұрын
@@agisler87 How would you define natural?
@DanielaHernandezWSJ
@DanielaHernandezWSJ 2 жыл бұрын
@@JW-tl1is Are there other topics in the bioengineering space that you'd like us to cover?
@agisler87
@agisler87 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanielaHernandezWSJ I think I could come up with multiple definitions, especially with a changing context. Professor Alan Levinovitz has written some interesting books on the difficulty of defining natural.
@DanielaHernandezWSJ
@DanielaHernandezWSJ 2 жыл бұрын
@@agisler87 I'll check that out. Thank you.
@alexander15551
@alexander15551 2 жыл бұрын
Very exciting. I’m glad they are putting some effort into more nutritious foods and not just higher yields
@denysivanov3364
@denysivanov3364 2 жыл бұрын
Why you think it’s more nutritious? 🤷‍♂️
@world-karma9127
@world-karma9127 2 жыл бұрын
@@denysivanov3364 , sarcasm
@GM-xk1nw
@GM-xk1nw 2 жыл бұрын
are you high?
@thecelticforge
@thecelticforge 2 жыл бұрын
Like golden rice?
@cornspank
@cornspank 2 жыл бұрын
Actually GMO does exist naturally. Horizontal gene transfer happens all the time. Agrobacterium acts as a natural conduit for transferring genes from one organism to another. Sweet potatoes are a perfect example of this. Natures very own GMO!
@troyclayton
@troyclayton 2 жыл бұрын
The bacterium just inserts it's cassette, with it's genes (unless it was modified, as we've done so much). Any transformed seed from a plant modified by natural A. tumefacience would just grow callus and wouldn't be viable, so naturally transformed plants can't spread those genes to future generations (in the unusual case of germ line cells being transformed). It's not the same.
@charlesmrader
@charlesmrader 2 жыл бұрын
@@troyclayton Would you like some other examples of natural gene transfer? Here's one of my favorites. There's a big ugly caterpillar which feeds on tomato plants, called a hornworm. If you saw one on your tomato plant, you'd probably pick it off and kill it. But sometimes you see one with some white pupae on its back. It's been infected by a parasitic wasp. It laid its eggs in the caterpillar flesh, and the larvae were eating the caterpillar from the inside out, until they reached the stage of life when they pupate. Later they will emerge as mature wasps and hopefully go after some other hornworms. But why doesn't the caterpillar's immune system attack the wasp larvae? We know why. The wasp has formed a partnership with a virus. When the wasp lays its eggs, it also introduces the virus, which inserts certain genes into the caterpillar genome. Those genes disable the immune system. The wasp larvae fourihs, and so does the virus, so the growing wasp larvae have a community of viruses ready for when they lay eggs in another hornworm.
@garrettsgardenplants9818
@garrettsgardenplants9818 5 ай бұрын
I believe that flowers can be infected using a mixture of an infected plants galls. Or dabbed. This works between completely different orders. It can be used to move things from vastly different organisms. It's pretty cool.
@RovingPunster
@RovingPunster 5 ай бұрын
I ordered 10 seeds last week ... should be arriving any day now.
@williamravisburn2651
@williamravisburn2651 3 ай бұрын
Lemme know how they taste. 👌 I'm considering growing them, but wanna wait until people have grown some and posted opinions. My favorite tomato is the Sungold though, and that's some pretty tough competition ngl.
@RovingPunster
@RovingPunster 3 ай бұрын
@@williamravisburn2651 Progress update: I currently still have 3 of my 4 PurpGMOTs (started 2/27) in their 18oz solo cups that are overdue for transplanting into their 7gal grow bag final homes. The holdup is getting their hardening done b4 TPing them ... I hope finish later today. Meanwhile, ive been pruning my tomatoes aggressively ... all 4 plants have a min of 5 cut growth nodes (former tiers) that I will brush with rooting enzyme during final transplanting (to switch the nodes from foliage production to root production). I plant them all the way down to within 1" of the bottom, and add 5 gal of my potting mix to fully bury all the cut nodes. After 7-10 days, roots begin emerging from the cut nodes, causing the root column in each 7gal grow bag to expand UPWARDS.
@RovingPunster
@RovingPunster Ай бұрын
​​@@williamravisburn2651Ok, my 3 outdoor Purp-GMOs are setting fruit now. Im in zone 7b, and using 7 gal grow bags with full depth multi tier rooting, and ive groomed them to have 2 mainstems each for my vertical trellis. Anyway, the fruit are still green at the moment and havent turned purple yet, but should start within the coming week.. QUIRK: One odd quirk ive noticed is the tendency of the calyx to fork and produce double clusters instead of singles. Pretty cool, as long aa the added weight of fruit doesnt cause em to snap.
@jamesstepp1925
@jamesstepp1925 4 ай бұрын
The dangerous GMO's are the ones that allow farmers to use more pesticides and herbicides like Roundup. Tomato's already have much smaller amounts of this same antioxidant naturally. As long as it is not GMO's that allow mass chemicals to be used I would eat it. Especially since the tomato will be allowed to be grown organically by backyard gardeners with no restrictions on patenting issues. This means you can save seeds and grow it every year without buying a license or more seeds. This includes tomato's that get crossed genetically through natural pollination.
@DukeGMOLOL
@DukeGMOLOL 4 ай бұрын
There are no dangerous GMO's.
@gabedarrett1301
@gabedarrett1301 2 жыл бұрын
I love these types of videos because they remind us of how far we've come technologically
@deeliciousplum
@deeliciousplum 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. 🍅 I do not contest the fact that in its early days, there were legitimate concerns about GM products. More so due to companies which placed their profits above the health and well-being of the public. As the science goes, genetically modified foods along with a reasonable level of research/testing may be equally as nutritional and natural as the foods that have been grown for tens of thousands of years. Through bioengineering, we may one day be able to lessen the symptoms which do come with living longer and with other challenging health impediments. I am not claiming a cure, just a means to live a better quality of life during all of life's stages and regardless of what an individual's economic status is.
@sneakyirishman7090
@sneakyirishman7090 Жыл бұрын
All the people talking about how they’ll stick to non-gmo or “natural” foods, none of our vegetables or fruits today are natural by yesteryear’s standards. You think carrots and bananas were the size and color they are today naturally? Everything has been modified through plant breeding/husbandry. Now it’s just more precise. Bring on the super/health foods.
@DukeGMOLOL
@DukeGMOLOL 4 ай бұрын
Yes!!
@splinteredspace3469
@splinteredspace3469 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, carrots, corn, banana's , eggplants. The list goes on. A wild peach look that up compared to what we have now. Wild Peaches were as small as cherries and tasted nothing like what we have today!
@sebastiangeschonke9756
@sebastiangeschonke9756 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy the seeds?
@DavidB-tj3rj
@DavidB-tj3rj 5 ай бұрын
I just ordered my seeds. I worry more about engineered produce that is designed to resist pests and herbicides than one that is designed to be healthier for you. GMO’s get a bad reputation but the impact they have had on worldwide starvation and famine cannot be ignored. Often when I see protests I just think to myself “first world problems “
@DukeGMOLOL
@DukeGMOLOL 4 ай бұрын
GM crops are safe.
@eavyeavy2864
@eavyeavy2864 2 жыл бұрын
Balanced reporting from both side of arguments. Nice
@carbunklestine
@carbunklestine 5 ай бұрын
Will they ripen to purple on the counter if picked early the way red tomatoes do?
@KCBRYAN_1525
@KCBRYAN_1525 2 жыл бұрын
Carrots were originally purple, did you know that? They were made orange for a Dutch king, if my memory serves me right 🧐 “correct me if I’m wrong on that bit”
@jonhruiz215
@jonhruiz215 2 жыл бұрын
carrots original color is violet
@KCBRYAN_1525
@KCBRYAN_1525 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonhruiz215 no they were purple.do you’re research.
@OutsiderLabs
@OutsiderLabs 2 жыл бұрын
@@KCBRYAN_1525 Same thing man, not everyone is an interior designer
@KCBRYAN_1525
@KCBRYAN_1525 2 жыл бұрын
@@OutsiderLabs shouldn’t you be saying that to the person that left the comment saying they are violet???
@troyclayton
@troyclayton 2 жыл бұрын
Daucus carota roots come in a number of colors. Here in Maine, they're light yellow.
@raymondroberts3878
@raymondroberts3878 2 ай бұрын
I have ordered purple tomato seed. I will be trying it.
@beaker4311
@beaker4311 2 жыл бұрын
i dont see why not. i dont get the hubbub of anti gmo's. if you are willing to eat things that are super processed, drink soda, eat almost any fast food, why would you draw the line at "but, its genetics!"?
@VxiceheartxV
@VxiceheartxV 6 ай бұрын
Does anyone know where these can be bought? I saw that they have been approved but I can't figure out where to get them.
@DavidB-tj3rj
@DavidB-tj3rj 5 ай бұрын
Norfolk healthy produce. You had to get on a list to pre order. Should be available to everyone in March
@candypodratz
@candypodratz 5 ай бұрын
Available now
@IAMGiftbearer
@IAMGiftbearer 4 ай бұрын
I love purple tomatoes and I have seeds from several naturally occurring ones, and just bought the GMO purple seeds. I wonder though how Norfolk Healthy Produce can have the patent on these if they were first developed in the UK. It seems they both have the same gene from the snapdragon, so are they identical or did the American company add something else to be able to own the patent? I watched a video in which they were tasted and the guy tasting them said they were better than other tomatoes so I wonder if the American company improved the flavor from the UK version. I did not realize this started in the UK until watching this video.
@rephaelreyes8552
@rephaelreyes8552 5 ай бұрын
This is a quality video. I can't believe it's a year old.
@viperking6573
@viperking6573 Жыл бұрын
People who fear GMO are like people who believe in astrology 🤦🏻‍♂️
@DukeGMOLOL
@DukeGMOLOL 4 ай бұрын
Bravo!!
@josephhale8924
@josephhale8924 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Genetically modified food will be key player in a sustainable future.
@Estella0707
@Estella0707 5 ай бұрын
You cannot be more wrong in this statement.
@davidadcock3382
@davidadcock3382 Ай бұрын
@@Estella0707 He is correct. GMO technology is used in many many things besides agriculture! Your are clueless!
@christinecorrrea5402
@christinecorrrea5402 2 жыл бұрын
This is really freaking cool, but to play devil's advocate, why couldn't people simply just eat those blueberries and other foods that already have antioxidants?
@octanesc2
@octanesc2 2 жыл бұрын
firstly, it’s just one of the benefits. the food waste thing on its own is huge. that said, psychologically changing human behavior and habits is way harder than sort of just swapping in an improved version. so if we can swap in these tomatoes that are better for the world, we can improve the world at a scale way more huge than convincing people to eat more berries.
@roscosanchez4649
@roscosanchez4649 2 жыл бұрын
@@octanesc2 that's if these tomatoes are everything they say they are. We have no idea how the lab rat experiment was even conducted.
@benishborogove2692
@benishborogove2692 2 жыл бұрын
@@roscosanchez4649 We know that the experiments met the stringent criteria for acceptance of the results by peer review. That's good enough for me.
@jacobgoldenofficial4321
@jacobgoldenofficial4321 2 жыл бұрын
Organic is only a different label Believe me I worked on a farm Sorry hippies 😒🙄🙄
@splinteredspace3469
@splinteredspace3469 3 ай бұрын
I know! I used to run an Heriloom garlic business, you wouldn't believe how much red tape there is just to get a label that says "organic" when you can still use natural pesticides etc. It wasn't worth have someone from gov tell us we had organic garlic for all the money and inspections
@baileealligood7862
@baileealligood7862 2 жыл бұрын
They already have heirloom purple tomatoes.
@noahmeme2
@noahmeme2 Жыл бұрын
I want some seeds to grow.
@JidduVillarin
@JidduVillarin 2 жыл бұрын
Would I try it? I eat food from food carts in the third world. I don't even know what parts of the animal they're using so yes. Definitely
@MooMooManist
@MooMooManist 2 жыл бұрын
I'd absolutely eat it! This is the future of food production. We need to leverage technology to make our food more nutritious, healthier, cheaper, safer, less energy intensive, and use less land.
@miltonfriedman3593
@miltonfriedman3593 2 жыл бұрын
In the past GMOs only purpose was to be able to grow more food even when it lowered nutritional value, today the purpose is quite different
@GM-xk1nw
@GM-xk1nw 2 жыл бұрын
Not true, but wait..... Name checks out, Melton friedman, hehee
@miltonfriedman3593
@miltonfriedman3593 2 жыл бұрын
@@GM-xk1nw yeah your name is really clear too "M G" 😂
@louisborges6675
@louisborges6675 2 жыл бұрын
how do I get the seeds when they are available?
@garrettsgardenplants9818
@garrettsgardenplants9818 5 ай бұрын
Available now. Search for Norfolk Healthy Produce.
@baburo101
@baburo101 2 жыл бұрын
Spain has left the chatroom 🍅🍅🍅
@thecelticforge
@thecelticforge 2 жыл бұрын
All for antioxidants? As far as I know, there has been no conclusive evidence that antioxidants have any affect on health one way or another. For me, this brings up ethical questions. I think foods should be produced for the greater good of humanity, not as a marketing scheme. It's something to think about.
@2Clairvoyance
@2Clairvoyance 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah I would try one! Give me alll of those good blueberry anthocyanins
@gregjackson3360
@gregjackson3360 2 жыл бұрын
Can I get the seeds?
@MyMrSuperstar
@MyMrSuperstar 2 жыл бұрын
I would definitely try it. I work in the produce industry and look forward to purple tomatoes being sold to grocery stores!
@dogstar6822
@dogstar6822 2 жыл бұрын
Would you like some beats with your tomatoes. Me: it had to be beats 😑
@candypodratz
@candypodratz 5 ай бұрын
They are crossed with snapdragon flowers. Not beets.
@Elrich272
@Elrich272 Жыл бұрын
Tomaco!. The Simpsons did it again!.
@troyclayton
@troyclayton 2 жыл бұрын
The real question isn't about if genetic engineering of plants is "Good" or "Bad", but what types of genetic pollution we are going to introduce into populations of formerly non-genetically modified plants. That's not so easy to 'clean up'. Look at our history, we rush into new technologies with little to no foresight of the impacts in the future. How about we go at a pace that is less likely to cause problems for those who come after us? Are we really still that myopic? Having worked in a 'prestigious' plant biotech research lab while in grad school, I can say the majority there don't give two craps if bad stuff happens as long as they get their grants/funding and papers in good journals. I remember the blank looks of the other grad students and advisors when I suggested mechanisms to make sure transformed plants couldn't breed with non-transformed plants of the same type. "Were's the money in that? That would be a lot of work, it's not easy" was one response. We'd likely have that today if there was any biotech company that would fund the research. That was 20 years ago at UC Davis.
@DukeGMOLOL
@DukeGMOLOL 3 ай бұрын
And none of your fears have come to fruition.
@troyclayton
@troyclayton 3 ай бұрын
@@DukeGMOLOL Um, you never heard of the problems with modified crop pollen crossing with the crops on other farms? Where have you been? There were all sorts of lawsuits. edit: Nice to see you're still a shill.
@DukeGMOLOL
@DukeGMOLOL 3 ай бұрын
@@troyclayton Um, not a single lawsuit from "modified crop pollen crossing with the crops on other farms". NOT ONE. EVER. Nor can you post even a shard of evidence for your claim. I'll be waiting for direct evidence of your claim. "Shill"? Naw, I mock you entirely for free.
@troyclayton
@troyclayton 3 ай бұрын
@@DukeGMOLOL So, you're saying Monsanto never brought farmers to court after their crops were pollinated by GM crops? I find it strange you can't even use a search engine but pretend to know this subject.
@DukeGMOLOL
@DukeGMOLOL 3 ай бұрын
@@troyclayton Yes, to be very clear, I am saying that Monsanto NEVER brought a single farmer to a courtroom or even sent at warning letter to a single farmer regarding YOUR claim that Monsanto sued farmers for "modified crop pollen crossing with the crops on other farms". NOT ONE. EVER. ANYWHERE. I find it the usual nonsense that this enduring myth keeps getting repeated. And I know the subject quite well, bring your knowledge up to speed. I see that all you can do is puke up prose instead of posting even a shard of credible evidence for your claim.
@OgCurrylvl
@OgCurrylvl 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t this just a version of tomato from Russia?
@benishborogove2692
@benishborogove2692 2 жыл бұрын
No, even the variety "Black Krim" has significant red inside. The GMO variety is solid purple inside.
@jasonrock5220
@jasonrock5220 Жыл бұрын
I’ll try it but unless it’s tasty 👅 then forget about it. lol I don’t want to ruin a perfectly good sandwich with a bad taste. That being said I recall Heinz having a purple ketchup and a green ketchup in the 90’s and even though it tasted the same with my eyes closed it literally made me nauseated to eat it on French fries with my eyes open. The color DID make a difference.
@michaelwallace8612
@michaelwallace8612 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not! ....but I won't eat a natural red one either! I hate the taste of raw tomatoes.
@DeepValueOptions
@DeepValueOptions 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt the mineral content is anything compared to a non modified GMO.
@DirtCheapFU
@DirtCheapFU Жыл бұрын
I work and volunteer in a cancer/advance care hospital. Things like this, purple tomato, scares the crap out of me.
@DukeGMOLOL
@DukeGMOLOL 4 ай бұрын
Safe.
@elgringo7633
@elgringo7633 2 жыл бұрын
No. By means of patents on seeds, large corporations try to gain a monopoly on agricultural production and food. This allows them to dictate who is allowed to grow and sell what, under what conditions and prices.
@charlesmrader
@charlesmrader 2 жыл бұрын
elgringo, your problem with patents is related to GMO food only very weakly. A very large majority of patented seeds and plants are conventionally bred. Even among newly bred organisms the majority of the patents have no relationship with genetic engineering. But even if you concentrate on patented GMO plants only, you are still wrong. That's because almost all crops of one species (say corn or cotton) come in numerous varieties because different varieties grow better in different circumstances. Corn, for example, can be bred for thriving in warm or cool environments, wet of drier places, spring or fall planting, resistance to insects that thrive in the east but not in the west, etc. etc. So there are hundreds of varieties. That's not even counting other features, like how the corn will be used, as popcorn, corn on cob, cattle food, far making ethanol, etc. The company with a patent on a transferred gene cannot hope to supply the gene edited version of all these different varieties, so they license the patent to many other seed companies. The economics of a monopoly on a given transferred gene is that the developing company wants to make it as widely available as possible. I'd be very interested to see if you can give a single example of a company with a patented GMO crop which has tried to limit its use by any paying customer for any reason.
@dalor4906
@dalor4906 2 жыл бұрын
One can always select a non GMO seeds. And there was no mention about a need for cross pollination. If open pollinated patents won't stop small producers
@tomj.l7988
@tomj.l7988 2 жыл бұрын
Compared to the patented tractors, fertilizers and other farming equipment? How is having a patent for a new variety of plant any different to having one for a piece of software? The free variety remains available. More importantly you don't need genetic engineering to have patents, that has occurred with normal selective breeding.
@roscosanchez4649
@roscosanchez4649 2 жыл бұрын
We let this tomato slip in, the next thing you know were eating purple apples, purple oranges, purple corn, purple rice, purple chicken.
@charlesmrader
@charlesmrader 2 жыл бұрын
@@roscosanchez4649 So what?
@Gemma-lg7lf
@Gemma-lg7lf 2 жыл бұрын
NO! Won't eat them!!!
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@DukeGMOLOL 4 ай бұрын
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@whatduhheell Жыл бұрын
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@jackhandy4406 2 жыл бұрын
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@VeryHighCholesterol
@VeryHighCholesterol 2 жыл бұрын
Gmo is the future
@karunald
@karunald 4 ай бұрын
I hate Antho tomatoes. Many people don't like them. I can't fathom what these taste like with it on the inside. And what of pollinators mixing this with heirlooms etc. Big no. I'm sad to see people getting suckered into this BS.
@DukeGMOLOL
@DukeGMOLOL 3 ай бұрын
That's ok, we're glad to see progress passing you by.
@karunald
@karunald 3 ай бұрын
@@DukeGMOLOL Progress? Did you taste them? LOL
@gregjackson3360
@gregjackson3360 2 жыл бұрын
Lit me know
@govind9402
@govind9402 2 жыл бұрын
Any seedless food is a disgrace to motherhood
@rocksofoffence.righteousam2422
@rocksofoffence.righteousam2422 Жыл бұрын
No one asked for these horrific things and no, mutations aren't a natural occurrence in Nature.
@mrmaxcarter2306
@mrmaxcarter2306 Жыл бұрын
People have mutated genes. It's why some can drink cows milk. People have naturally been adapting forever. Plants too. This is just recreating what exists in nature.
@rocksofoffence.righteousam2422
@rocksofoffence.righteousam2422 Жыл бұрын
@@mrmaxcarter2306 I take it, you believe in evolution?
@mrmaxcarter2306
@mrmaxcarter2306 Жыл бұрын
@@rocksofoffence.righteousam2422 Yes. Mutations are very common in nature. It's oftentimes harmful. Obviously people have changed.
@rocksofoffence.righteousam2422
@rocksofoffence.righteousam2422 Жыл бұрын
@@mrmaxcarter2306 No one, naturally has mutated Genetics unless, they're manipulated, and altered
@mrmaxcarter2306
@mrmaxcarter2306 Жыл бұрын
@@rocksofoffence.righteousam2422 Some people have a genetic mutation to drink milk into adulthood. Most of the world does not. It was acquired by drinking milk before they were able to properly digest it. People have adapted to their surroundings forever.
@Gareebaa84
@Gareebaa84 2 жыл бұрын
Natural = from nature, naturally evolving. Which also means nobody owns it and this is a central theme for food security strategies. Most of our foods today are mono cultures which are also IP of large companies, they have also been modified to increase yields which has had the following impact 1) increases intensity of resource consumption which often isn't sustainable and 2) creates further dependency on producer becoming further locked into the IP owner and wider ecosystem... Look at the situation in India #farmersprotest where after the green revolution has now resulted in debt traps resulting in thousands of farmer suicides, the state of the soil from pesticides, water depletion, modern day slavery... Now the solution from the govt is to partner with Meta and Alphabet to develop digital markets controlled by large industrialists. US has similar issues with water, lack of diversification due to few large companies, overall sustainability. Not against GMO per say, against the technology being used to effectively enslave the farmer and not engineering a sustainable crop
@charlesmrader
@charlesmrader 2 жыл бұрын
From your name, I presume that you are from India. Here is the situation regarding GMOs in India. There is only one GMO crop allowed for planting in India, a variety of cotton with an added gene that makes it poisonous to most moth larvae. For several years before 2003, the crop was only grown in field tests conducted by farmers working for the developer, farmers paid for the evaluation, not for the crop, all inputs provides free, no possible financial risk to farmer, cotton crop destroyed not sold. Clearly, none of those farmers committed suicide due to a debt trap. At some point during those trials, someone stole some of the seeds and sold them secretly to other farmers. In 2003, in one part of India, the pest problem was so severe that cotton farmers lost almost the entire crop, except for a few fields that did well in spite of the pests. These were the farmers growing the stolen seed. The Indian government sought to have that cotton destroyed but Indian cotton farmers, in large numbers, rebelled and forced the government to approve the GMO cotton variety. An interesting side comment relating to your comment about IP (intellectual property) of large companies. India does not allow such intellectual property. The person who stole the seeds and sold them was never prosecuted and still sells them. Other Indian seed companies have taken the GMO cotton and crossed it with their own varieties and they sell the seeds to farmers. Almost the entire cotton crop in India is now GMO cotton. So much for the "farmer protest". Farmer suicides due to a debt trap are a real problem in India, but not for cotton farmers growing GMO cotton. The major advantage of the GMO cotton is that farmers don't need nearly as many pesticides, so they have lower costs and higher yields. There are a number of other GMO crops developed by Indian researchers, mostly in agricultural research colleges. None of them have been approved, in the nineteen years since 2003, although some are grown in other countries. Your portrayal of GMO crops as a cause of farmer slavery, suicide, intellectual property controls, etc. is so clearly not the case in your own country that I wonder how you can post such.
@Gareebaa84
@Gareebaa84 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesmrader @Charles Rader that's a pretty ignorant presumption I'm sorry. That's like me assuming your from Surrey UK because of your name. Not from india as an FYI. Happy to concede that I'm not an expert on the precise areas you mention, below video by VICE for me was a good explainer of the situation in India kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7mfl82LzcrHj5c.html My point around GMO is that that sustainability should be thought of at all levels. Ever higher yeild crops to sustain population growth is dangerous for water sustainability and risks of monocultures and those should also be taken into account besides simply maximising profits alone. This video was a good example by increasing shelf life and health properties but isn't a complete overview of the other risks and my comment around the IP
@charlesmrader
@charlesmrader 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gareebaa84 My goodness, let's first dispose of your insult. I didn't say you were from India! I said that I PRESUMED you were from India. I guess you don't understand the difference, or you purposely overlooked it so you could justify calling me ignorant. The statement {I presume from your name that you are from India.} makes it clear that I can't be certain about from where you come. Your name sounds Indian. You did, after all, bring India into the anti-GMO discussion. You also associated it with slavery, a wild extrapolation. As to ignorance, you admit that you know very little about " the precise areas" I mention. But here's what I reacted to: {Not against GMO per say, against the technology being used to effectively enslave the farmer and not engineering a sustainable crop.} So you know very little about it, and yet make such a strong statement about it? (By the way, "per say" is wrong. You mean "per se". Do we need to trade evidence of each other's ignorance?) Now onto the other substance of your reply. Of course sustainability should be considered. But the way to consider it is to consider it. You seem to think that just using the word sustainability is enough, even when you have it backwards. Take water sustainability and the green revolution. The entire technological innovation of the green revolution in India was to introduce short stalked varieties of rice and wheat. These use LESS WATER per grain. So when you actually consider water sustainability, you reach the opposite conclusion from that which you imply. Take monoculture. It is easy to make the case that monocultures are vulnerable and that biodiversity is important. But monoculture is the way the vast majority of farming has been done, for millennia. The connection of monoculture with technology is a fiction. During the feudal ages in Europe, farmers introduced the valuable innovation of using a field for different crops in different years. Clearly monoculture was the pattern then. There weren't corporations. There were serfs. Finally you made a reference to higher yield crops to sustain population growth. Since the only Indian GMO crop is cotton, I don't see it as having any obvious impact on population growth.
@funDAYsmiling
@funDAYsmiling 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll eat genetically modified anything but NOBODY should ever eat tomatoes, even though they taste great, like many other things that taste great, they’re not good for us.
@rok1475
@rok1475 2 жыл бұрын
Some scientists are like teenagers with under-developed pre-frontal cortex, never ask “what could possibly go wrong with this stunt?”
@kolliwanne964
@kolliwanne964 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think you understand the amount of safety evaluation that goes into this process...
@rok1475
@rok1475 2 жыл бұрын
@@kolliwanne964 too bad you can’t recall any scientific achievements that many years later proved to be a disaster for humans or the environment
@charlesmrader
@charlesmrader 2 жыл бұрын
@@rok1475 That sounds like a fair question. But wait! Can you think of some scientific achievements that have not been disasters? What accounts for the fact that I have already lived twenty five years longer than my grandmother lived? Why is there no more smallpox? Is electricity such a bad thing? On the other side of things, weren't there some non-scientific achievements that went badly? Planned genocides? People enslaved? Have you been to see a doctor lately who encouraged you to bleed yourself, or perhaps to sleep near a pyramid that directs the earth's ley lines into a healing configuration? Have you been inspired by the achievements of the Taliban?
@rok1475
@rok1475 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesmrader please read the first two words of my post again for some context. There are many, many scientists working on research aimed at improving human condition. Better health care, agricultural methods, clean water, etc, etc - no discussion here, this is all good, even if occasionally the results turn negative. But then there are some scientists working to only improve profits of corporations or destructive power of the army, where considerations for anything outside their immediate goals are ignored (with notable exception of a few scientists on Manhattan project) I am fairly certain Dr. Yoshiyuki Takasaki did not intend to cause global obesity epidemic. But he did not try to solve world hunger either. He only tried to develop cheap sugar substitute for industrial food production. If you are unable to distinguish those two groups then too bad. In any case, my comment was a reaction to the “messing up with genes is 100% safe” attitude presented in this video. No self-respecting scientist would ever make a statement like that. Nobody can predict everything that may happen to the results of any research or technology in next few decades. But here we have an arrogant young one claiming that whatever they are doing is 100% safe. Not even a shadow of caution. This attitude is what bugs me.
@isaacarellano5118
@isaacarellano5118 Жыл бұрын
@@kolliwanne964 and I say you're full of crap. Genetically modified foods have been turning cancer some people's bodies. There's countless FDA foods and chemicals that have been approved by the FDA that now you can sue for because they kill people and cause cancer I do not value your opinion. I would like to stick to nature but evil is sticking its hand in everything and it's people like you who back it you make me sick.
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