Im in east ontario and im hesitant to start goats because of their escape artists and last time i ate a goat i did not like it...do breeds taste different?

@@elijahsfarmsteadjourney I would give goat meat another chance. I’ve lived all over world and have eaten everything from camel to yak. What I’ve learned is if you eat meat from an animal about 5-10 times you’ll learn to love it. Greg Judy’s electric high tensile fences will keep them on your property, but you won’t be able to rotate the in the Judy style with a single hot wire like you can with cows and sheep. Electric nets will work but they are very labor intensive.

@@elijahsfarmsteadjourney Check out Gregs video with Mark Kennedy on keeping goats in. I used his technique to train them to hot wire for interior paddock divisions. I personally was never able to train goats to 6 wire high tensile perimeter fence. Not for a lack of trying though. My goats ALWAYS want what's on the other side of the fence. Over a decade ago I was assured by those helping me build fence that with a powerful enough energizer 6 wire high tensile would keep goats in. Unfortunately I put up close to 12,500 feet of 6 wire high tensile here at the farm. Don't do what I did. I slowly began converting the 6 wire high tensile to 4x4 woven wire. It works but it's very heavy and difficult to work with and it's EXPENSIVE. I've had great success with using poultry netting with goats. Why poultry netting because I also use it with my geese. Like Joel Salatin likes to say "Don't invest in single use capital intensive infrastructure". If using electric netting I highly recommend using a wheeled string trimmer to cut where you are going to install the netting. Mark Kennedy was kind enough to point me to a woven wire product that is 36 inches tall with vertical stays that are 24 inches. It's light and relatively inexpensive. I bought some this past fall. It cost about 35 cents/linear foot including freight. I'm removing the bottom 4 wires of the high tensile and installing that woven wire product and leaving the 2 hot wires up top. I'm sure you could also run 2 strands of barbed wire up top that isn't electrified. No matter what my goats always seem to want whatever is on the other side of the fence even if there is the same thing on the inside of the fence! This is why I'll only use woven wire or electric netting as perimeter fence. My preference is woven wire though. Goats are gonna goat. It's their nature. If you learn to love it and learn it you will have no problems keeping goats fenced in.

@@elijahsfarmsteadjourney Re: the meat. All the different breeds I've raised have tasted the same. Fully intact males over a year old will have a more "goaty" taste. Buckings and doelings less than a year old will have almost no "goaty" taste. The meat will readily take on the flavor of your seasonings. Cook the stew meat slow and low in a crock pot. One of my favorite ways was/is taco seasoning with goat stew meat cooked in the crock pot slow and low....best part is it's SO easy. When I was retailing cuts of goat I recommended that to a lot of my customers. Goat meat tacos were always a hit. Don't think I ever had anyone say that recipe wasn't great.

I seen his goats, we bought one. The real deal. He is committed to his guns! #naturalgramma To see our "Romeo"!! Natural Gramma LLC RevHank and Laura Reid

@oxford821 Whatever grass that grows in the nearest ditch is what you should use.

Aw cmon. There’s a lot of good young folks making that return journey. I know a lot of good hard working people under 30. So long as the boomers in charge don’t let the nukes fly I think we’re going to be alright.

@@swamp-yankee I’ve been around about 50 years and I try to be positive but the last 10 years or so have been pretty messed up. It is very true that younger folks don’t want to work. Unbelievably, slow to work and no drive. They take little initiative to learn. People of all ages simply want to the government to do everything for them and to force others to their will. It’s bleak. I see no indication that nukes are what we need to worry about. The destruction is self inflicted.

Speed up your rotation, smaller paddocks with more frequent moves.

3-4 strands of polybraid

Video was made in October

All grazing animals perform much better if they are not tethered to a stake. It will work, just very labor intensive.

A fence that you can’t throw water through!!

Yes, you do. 😀

It is electric

I used 6 strands of high tensile wire (3 hot) at 8 joules on 20 acres and my goats escaped nearly everyday. Had to sell the goats and just stick with raising cattle.

​@@EvozacI'm giving goats a try. What spacing did you have between your wires? What breeds of goats? How many volts did your wires test at? Were you able to try any hot wire training?

If you want to kill the biology on every manure pile and urine patch coming out of your animals, then worming them is a great way to accomplish that task. You have turned an asset (manure & urine) into a toxic liability that kills you soil critters!! Great way to go broke with ruminants.

Still would make more sense to worm certain animals and then cull them rather than lose animals. Dead stock is a lost opportunity

Some people seem to think it is a badge of honor to have a pile of bones in the pasture. I would prefer to treat them, put them in a cull pen, and feed them until the next truck goes to town. Cull ewes are about $1.20 per lb right now.

That's great if you want dead soil, judy is right they are livestock not pets. The herd needs nutrients from the forage not poison. The forage is worthless without the proper minerals. That why we are in the situation we are destroying the planet and in turn ourselves.

@@farmtuber7815 we don’t let them die on our pastures, we sell them .

They are not old enough. His son is five and just reaching the age where he can open/close the gates.

Goats convert woody plants into a highly nutritious meat like no other animal can. If you have lots of woody sprouts and thorny brush, goats are your tool. They are delicious to eat as well.

@@gregjudyregenerativerancher As always Greg, thank you.