Goku vs The Big 3 With Every Power is Unfair...

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Lonk's Takes

Lonk's Takes

Ай бұрын

#dragonball #anime #naruto #bleach #onepiece
The topic of Goku vs the Big Three has been discussed for ages, but the brand new debate of Goku vs the Big Three with every power is reletively new! Does Goku vs Luffy, Goku vs Naruto and Goku vs Ichigo change if they gain every hax ability from their respective series? Let's find out!

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@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
“It’s Just Big Me” - Goku
@jeremysprimestudio4756
@jeremysprimestudio4756 Ай бұрын
Seems like it
@void_fruit212
@void_fruit212 Ай бұрын
WHY ISN'T MR SATAN'S DYNAMITE PUNCH IN THE VID IM FNNA UNSUBB Also hi lonk👋
@menaceFasho
@menaceFasho Ай бұрын
BUM
@jeremysprimestudio4756
@jeremysprimestudio4756 Ай бұрын
​@@void_fruit212 the strongest move in fiction
@supercooljoeeman7268
@supercooljoeeman7268 Ай бұрын
@@void_fruit212 He said he needed to make them as strong as reasonably possible With Dynamite punch Goku would even have a fight, I'd just be an execution
@TangyGuest1
@TangyGuest1 Ай бұрын
"F*ck the big 3, it's just big me." - Kaka-Dot
@Kakarot64.
@Kakarot64. Ай бұрын
Oooo theres another me over there
@nickdirado929
@nickdirado929 Ай бұрын
K-Rot
@loth-alda
@loth-alda Ай бұрын
Kaka-Goat
@Dizastermaster.
@Dizastermaster. Ай бұрын
It's still K-Dot LOL
@RahulSleepwalker11
@RahulSleepwalker11 Ай бұрын
Luffy u right about fuck the 3 there's only Big D in Video PROFF
@bezel95
@bezel95 29 күн бұрын
Even after all this time it’s crazy to think that Guldo, freaking Guldo has a better control of time stop than Hit. So since Frieza doesn’t need to breathe, Goku can just hold his breath and stop time indefinitely.
@socketyellow3
@socketyellow3 23 күн бұрын
Damn you right, but I mean grand priest abilities have better control over time and can reverse it so that’s what always was supposed to happen (no flashpoints).
@AlphaAbyss_
@AlphaAbyss_ 17 күн бұрын
Goku can move in stopped time he doesn't need to worry about any of that as we say he can do this multiple times he has inaccessible speed
@Devilboy_1029
@Devilboy_1029 16 күн бұрын
Also, Goku has the power to turn people into carrots by touching them (That one Rabbit guy who was punted into the moon by pre hermit school Kid Goku)and also has the ability to kill people if they have even a HINT of impurity in their heart (Devilmite beam) and invisibility (Yamcha fight)
@LegoGoldenFrieza
@LegoGoldenFrieza 16 күн бұрын
Monkey wins
@averageyoutuber5393
@averageyoutuber5393 15 күн бұрын
​@@Devilboy_1029can't he also copy the other 3's abilities therefore their whole verse's abilities? 73 can do that💀
@TheFinalChapters
@TheFinalChapters Ай бұрын
Guldo's time stop lasts as long as he can hold his breath. A bunch of characters in DB don't need to breathe. Therefore, time is already permanently stopped for this fight.
@shahzarsshowshow4441
@shahzarsshowshow4441 22 күн бұрын
then Goku uses true erasure (Zeno's ability) to erase them from existence
@thegreatbeavers
@thegreatbeavers 17 күн бұрын
Also Goku can gain Immortality.. yeah bro be unbeatable 💀
@chaosmonkrill
@chaosmonkrill 14 күн бұрын
Because they don’t need too doesn’t mean it’s a ability
@kowicz_comedy3625
@kowicz_comedy3625 13 күн бұрын
​@@thegreatbeaverswell Luffy would be immortal, Naruto would technically immortal and ichigo is just effing bonkers with all the bankai, resurreccions and the Sternritter abilities
@Gamerdad3000
@Gamerdad3000 13 күн бұрын
Ssg surpasses time good try though
@chrisgomez8342
@chrisgomez8342 Ай бұрын
Goku would straight up be Son Wukong 💀
@chopper7867
@chopper7867 Ай бұрын
Son Gukong
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Ай бұрын
Far weaker but essentially very similar.
@personallypeson1007
@personallypeson1007 Ай бұрын
Walmart version of him but yeah that still means goku gonna beat the big 3
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
Nowhere near as strong. Not even Rimuru’s lvl. Still a lot of the anime’s that neg Db verse STILL neg him.
@mohammedshayan4163
@mohammedshayan4163 Ай бұрын
Cannon Goku Negs Rimuru In Base Bro. That Transgender Kid Has Been Debunked To Universal​@@jameschristopher2540
@denmla7982
@denmla7982 Ай бұрын
TFS Goku: "umm im going to hakai you now"
@razzo086
@razzo086 Ай бұрын
Why would he do that when he’s got a far superior ability in Zeno’s eraser ability
@z1nin
@z1nin Ай бұрын
​@@razzo086but he can use hakai he did it in the manga against zamasu
@razzo086
@razzo086 Ай бұрын
@@z1nin yeah I know, there is nothing that I don’t know about in db
@z1nin
@z1nin Ай бұрын
@@razzo086 he doesnt have abilities like zeno unless were talkin about kakumei goku
@razzo086
@razzo086 Ай бұрын
@@z1nin no I was talking about the premise of this video ‘if Goku had all the powers of the db universe’. It just a stupid what if scenario.
@Man_0f_Trenches
@Man_0f_Trenches 9 күн бұрын
A ninja, a ghost and a pirate can’t beat an alien god. Big shocker.
@Stunt877
@Stunt877 4 күн бұрын
Well technically Naruto is half alien and we would consider Luffy an alien since he isn’t obvious on a planet like earth.
@normalcrab
@normalcrab 2 күн бұрын
@@Stunt877 negawatt
@koolkam3571
@koolkam3571 2 күн бұрын
@@Stunt877do u know what an alien is? Someone not native to the planet. Luffy is native to the planet
@derekhakeem8
@derekhakeem8 9 сағат бұрын
⁠@@Stunt877yo, im not that big on naruto but is he really part alien ?
@RestlessGambler
@RestlessGambler Ай бұрын
you forgot that toriyama actually exists inside of dragon ball, so he can literally write the story
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
He goes from being stated strongest in the verse to saying he can’t beat Great Ape Kid Goku so I decided just not to include it😭
@Bleachisbetterthannarutocope
@Bleachisbetterthannarutocope 8 күн бұрын
@@lonkstakesthat shows how strong great ape is,even stronger than the author
@VeggyUwo
@VeggyUwo Ай бұрын
Big three: lets do this Goku: xenoverse ssj goku loading screen Edit:dont cause a war down there otherwise I'll have to spank all of ya'll with my sandal
@RED_RIBBON17
@RED_RIBBON17 Ай бұрын
We doesn't need xeno goku. Dbs goku solo them😂
@baconlord2545
@baconlord2545 Ай бұрын
@@RED_RIBBON17**Prowler’s theme intensifies**
@lazerbreaker4758
@lazerbreaker4758 Ай бұрын
God fusion goku:hey there we are goku
@AlwaysOfflineForever
@AlwaysOfflineForever Ай бұрын
Isn't Xenoverse Goku non-cannon?
@baconlord2545
@baconlord2545 Ай бұрын
@@AlwaysOfflineForever It’s a meme. Search: “Ssj Xenoverse Goku prowler theme”
@jax3845
@jax3845 Ай бұрын
Goku - raises his hand The big 3 - oh shi *Gets erased*
@danielgedeon6454
@danielgedeon6454 Ай бұрын
How is Goku erasing Naruto forever with Infinite Izanagi ?
@jax3845
@jax3845 Ай бұрын
@@danielgedeon6454 Goku can wish that nurato is a normal human
@VitunVatiVille
@VitunVatiVille Ай бұрын
@@danielgedeon6454 Zeno erased Zamasu from existence who had the dragon grant him invincible body which literally made him unbeatable through damage among other things and Zeno still erased him.(The entire universe at that point since Zamasu literally became it) In other words Zeno has power which gives the middle finger to immortality and other things the Super Dragon wishes could even do making him literally omnipotent or beyond.
@markjack9772
@markjack9772 Ай бұрын
I know this is a dumb argument but technically we've never seen super Shenron make a wish for itself
@EndlessPower520
@EndlessPower520 Ай бұрын
@@markjack9772 Goku makes a clone like tien and then wishes to himself ig
@DexLeroy
@DexLeroy Ай бұрын
"Cell's Multiform technique" Ah yes, the move he inherited from Tien-
@Sebby-Webbu
@Sebby-Webbu Ай бұрын
Fun fact: There's a character that 100% canon to dragon ball that would make every other power and ability goku has irrelevant and that's tori bot which would give Goku the power of the author
@Deon.Z
@Deon.Z 6 күн бұрын
Not necessarily. The author only has power within and over his own story, since other stories have different authors. So although he could rewrite anything in his own story, he can't do so with other ones. Within his story, he can only be stronger than or limited to whatever is shown in it.
@Sebby-Webbu
@Sebby-Webbu 6 күн бұрын
@@Deon.Z true but then again he'd just be able to write himself to be infinitely stronger but this is a big if as Goku wouldn't be the type to go this
@SD8bit_
@SD8bit_ Ай бұрын
Thinking about Goku ripping off a piece of himself to absorb someone like The Thing is so cursed
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
“Hey, you’re now me Goku!”
@void_fruit212
@void_fruit212 Ай бұрын
Hey it's me Goku 2
@KuroFrog
@KuroFrog Ай бұрын
Hey it’s me Goku 3
@l0sts0ul89
@l0sts0ul89 Ай бұрын
​@@void_fruit212 GoTwo
@l0sts0ul89
@l0sts0ul89 Ай бұрын
​@@KuroFrog Go3
@thatboialek4536
@thatboialek4536 Ай бұрын
bro literally got free timestop now
@HOLDENPOPE
@HOLDENPOPE 11 күн бұрын
That actually wouldn't work on Ichigo since he has Mimihagi's powers. Mimihagi is the embodiment of stagnation and could not be seen by The Almighty, implying it has Acausality, AKA, immunity to almost all timehax.
@OmegaHPK
@OmegaHPK 15 күн бұрын
Dude you nailed it.. I was thinking the whole video TIME FREEZE TIME FREEZE TIME FREEZE!!!
@blazingfuture259
@blazingfuture259 Ай бұрын
I'm surprised gremmys power of imagination wasn't mentioned
@nefdjc9492
@nefdjc9492 11 күн бұрын
Not even the Hōgyoku was mentioned either
@UltraRaptor123
@UltraRaptor123 10 күн бұрын
It wouldn’t change anything, Gremmy still lost with it. It’s not invincible.
@JerichoKyari
@JerichoKyari 9 күн бұрын
Ichigo would end up killing himself
@sean-jq7hs
@sean-jq7hs 6 күн бұрын
@@UltraRaptor123Gremmy lost because of he’s a child and wasn’t smart, he amped kenpachi in that fight by believing kenpachi to be an unstoppable monster
@UltraRaptor123
@UltraRaptor123 6 күн бұрын
@@sean-jq7hs Ichigo would do the same to Goku.
@nicholasaugello2534
@nicholasaugello2534 Ай бұрын
The image of a goku action figure just looking down at his defeated opponents is just hilarious
@froliy
@froliy Ай бұрын
timestamp?
@nicholasaugello2534
@nicholasaugello2534 Ай бұрын
@@froliy you have to imagine it
@powerjolt7215
@powerjolt7215 Ай бұрын
​@@nicholasaugello2534I need you in my life
@RealComixx
@RealComixx Ай бұрын
I’m about to buy big 3 action figures just to do this
@ivan_d_feets4495
@ivan_d_feets4495 Ай бұрын
Ill do you one better. The goku figure has that one sinister patrick star face.
@TriedYan
@TriedYan Ай бұрын
It’s ironic cos dragon ball hax is never hyped up but some how Goku still wins
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
Partially why I made this video at all
@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867
@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 Ай бұрын
It's because most Dragon Ball hax are overcome by simply being stronger than the hax. Don't want to lose to Hit? Simply be so fast and combat smart that when he "skips" time you are already beating his ass. Opponent has insane regeneration, hit them with a massive beam that covers their entire body 50x over and completely obliterate them on the atomic level. Is a Gag character beating you because they are a gag character? Just be so strong that gags cease to work on you and Hakai them. In Dragonball hack resistance is just a perk of being strong, in that regard Dragonball hax really don't fit the traditional definition.
@EdgeyStyle
@EdgeyStyle Ай бұрын
​@@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 dont want to loose to MUI? Simply be faster and you'll touch him
@yukipuki-gt6yc
@yukipuki-gt6yc Ай бұрын
horse sht writting
@TriedYan
@TriedYan Ай бұрын
@@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 this is interesting cos then in cross verses scaling shouldn’t this power, speed and combat intelligence be taking into account if a hax would be valuable against a dragon ball character at all sometimes it is but I feel like we don’t talk about it enough
@ZeroGForce
@ZeroGForce Ай бұрын
*Ichigo:* _[has all of Katen Kyokotsu's abilities to make children's games real]_ *Goku / Luffy / Naruto:* "Fuck." *Yugi and Kaiba:* "OH MY EGYPTIAN GOD, _THANK YOU."_
@The_Natalist
@The_Natalist 29 күн бұрын
That isn't Goku, thats Majin Cell the Destroyer 😂
@undedemperor4235
@undedemperor4235 Ай бұрын
Super shenron That's it
@Sansnmm
@Sansnmm Ай бұрын
Also Zeno
@IzBirch
@IzBirch Ай бұрын
​@Sansnmm zeno is basically featless beyond having a very overwhelming ability. In fact he couldn't even see some of the opponents in the tournament of power.
@Tappin_YT
@Tappin_YT Ай бұрын
Also Arale
@Sansnmm
@Sansnmm Ай бұрын
@IzBirch Zeno destroyed the universes of the losers of the tournament of power, destroying the gods of destruction, the only reason Goku won was because of his own attack that broke his limits into ultra instinct and the spirit bomb was deflected by jiren
@cookiesthedonkey2223
@cookiesthedonkey2223 Ай бұрын
@@IzBirchso he still wins
@revotempo2082
@revotempo2082 Ай бұрын
It's kinda sad that whenever we have a BIG 3 vs anyone type situation it usually starts with everyone agreeing that Luffy is the first one to get knocked out
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
Agreed. I haven’t watched op but how do you think he’d fair? What are the most op DF abilities. I know Op isn’t close to finishing. So he still might get more op (no pun intended). How op can he get? Like is their some powers left he still hasn’t touched. Something about will of D idk honestly.
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow Ай бұрын
@@jameschristopher2540Luffy has some decent hax and abilities but in terms of raw stats, Naruto and Ichigo out stat Luffy by a lot
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
@@jocoolshow so with every ability in his verse would he be able to affect Goku? Remember he also has equal stats so no blitzing and stuff.
@Dinonuggie399
@Dinonuggie399 Ай бұрын
@@jameschristopher2540no lmao
@thatonerandommf
@thatonerandommf 26 күн бұрын
@@jocoolshow Naruto doesn't out stat Luffy at all. Sanji's brothers, who are literal background fodders compared to Luffy can use lightspeed attacks and move even faster than those attacks. Next take into account how much larger everything is in One Piece. Luffy has enough fire power in one punch to destroy the Leaf Village 50 times over
@abdullahsaa96
@abdullahsaa96 19 күн бұрын
Hey bro cool video , got a few random video requests: - Obito and Madara ( war arc versions) vs S class heroes ( excluding blast) - Awoken Hit vs SSR Goku black - Cell vs Cosmic Garou - DMS Kakashi vs Indra mode sasuke ( final valley) - could Dms Obito defeat Madara? - Gojo vs luffy - Gojo vs Each Akatsuki in a 1v1 - Sukuna vs Each Akatsuki in 1v1 - Dangai Ichigo vs Baryon mode Naruto - Gojo vs Each s class hero in a 1v1 - Darth Vader vs each mcu villain or each avenger in a 1v1 - Sauron vs Palpatine ( EU) -Doomslayer vs Dante or Kratos - what if Ichigo and Naruto switched fights? - what if Kratos and Goku switched fights?
@WeedBat
@WeedBat Ай бұрын
for the hobi hobi no mi i think that a case could be argued for that because "It would seem that Devil Fruit powers also become unusable, as Nico Robin was rendered helpless by her new form." meaning that could be the case for any power as even the persons physical strength gets taken away. Plus ontop of that sugar can issue commands to the toys, so luffy could say "don't try and change form" or whatever
@NinjaXFiles
@NinjaXFiles Ай бұрын
At first I thought this was a wacky video, but it actually makes you appreciate all the crazy stuff that has happened all over Dragon Ball history.
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
And the other big 3
@sojournertaylor6897
@sojournertaylor6897 Ай бұрын
Even without the overwhelming reality warping powers of the dragons and Xeno, Time Skip alone pushes Goku over the edge of absurdity. He’s over millions of times faster than light. Even if Time Skip only lasts a fraction of a second imagine how much he could do in that short amount of time. The other three would be dead instantly
@GODEATER2
@GODEATER2 Ай бұрын
goku even without everyones powers is beyond infinite speed he does not need timeskip
@thatonerandommf
@thatonerandommf 26 күн бұрын
You're forgetting that the basis for the video is equal stats. The person who made the video also forgot about the power of the Soul King, basically God. It's Zeno's powers but better
@GODEATER2
@GODEATER2 26 күн бұрын
@@thatonerandommf zenos power isnt anywhere near gokus best ability in this fight so that doesnt really matter and one devilmite beam and ichigos dead
@thatonerandommf
@thatonerandommf 26 күн бұрын
@@GODEATER2 Zeno is the strongest thing in Dragon Ball
@thatonerandommf
@thatonerandommf 26 күн бұрын
@@GODEATER2 Also it wouldn't work since Ichigo, as a Soul Reaper, is a higher dimensional being. This is backed up using dragon ball logic where characters tank attacks by outscaling it. And that's just regular Ichigo. In this situation he'd have the Soul King's abilities which literally just make him God
@sanchoporkwiches9871
@sanchoporkwiches9871 27 күн бұрын
Fantastic video I think Wabisuke combo'd with Senbonzakura allows thousands of hits that double a person's weight each time. Add on Katen Kyōkotsu Shunsui's zanpakutou ability to force anyone to play by the rules that are set, and Ichigo basically becomes a reality warper as long as he can stay a step ahead. Goku still obviously blitzes but Considering the sheer number of unique abilities in Bleach i really think Ichigo would give him a fight he would never forget even without getting into Inoue's ability to reject anything in the bleach universe which might even give Ichigo an edge that could block Xeno's powers.
@RaymonPrivgeTRusit
@RaymonPrivgeTRusit 25 күн бұрын
Nice vid bro but Base Goku is already at Complex Multiversal his sheer power alone can already bypassed all of this hax but it is a very interesting take that they have all the powers in their series though
@hotlaseryt
@hotlaseryt Ай бұрын
Goku literally becomes Omnipotent. Wish granting, reversing time, skipping time, travel in time, erasure, regeneration to the point of unkillable, immortality, absorbion, telekinesis. And that's only what my lazy ass is writing for you Edit: DAYUM im famus
@MrFish-oo2vx
@MrFish-oo2vx Ай бұрын
also androids dosent need to breath so its just a inf time stop
@MonkeyHater435
@MonkeyHater435 Ай бұрын
@@MrFish-oo2vx Oh dear god you're right. and this doesn't even scratch the surface of what goku could do. someone made a video about if goku had every ability in his verse and it would be just INSANE.
@zanzax6438
@zanzax6438 Ай бұрын
I think goku could beat superman at this point
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Ай бұрын
He'd be below Xeno Goku or CC Goku still sue to verse cosmology.
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Ай бұрын
​@@zanzax6438depends on the version, there's versions such as Pre Crisis and Sword Of Superman and Prime One Million that this Goku could pretty easily beat but there's other versions such as Strange Visitor, Superman Blue, Sting Superman, Lee Superman, Milk-Man Man, Post Crisis Boom Tube Amped Superman, Cosmic Armour, Rebirth, Story Of Superman, etc..... and all of them could solo both this theoretical Goku and Xeno Goku effortlessly.
@odd-eyes6363
@odd-eyes6363 Ай бұрын
Goku having multiple kinds of immortality in this what if is so fitting considering his roots as a version of the Monkey King, whom became immortal five different times or something
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Ай бұрын
I think he had 100+ levels of Immortality.
@fizbutreal
@fizbutreal Ай бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki6, actually
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Ай бұрын
@@fizbutreal my bad lol, I mightve been thinking bout someone else who had hundreds of layers of Immortality and hax abilities.
@fizbutreal
@fizbutreal Ай бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki yeah its alr
@mr.q337
@mr.q337 Ай бұрын
Yeah lol, Sun Wukong immortality comes from: 1) Erase his name from the destiny book of the underworld 2) Drink the elixir of life 3) Eat the immortality peach 4) Eat the immortal pearl while inside the magical furnace that suppose to kill him only make his skin so hard it turned impenetrable and give him lazer eyes =))) 5) After finishing the Journey to the West, he ascended Buddhahood and name "Victorious Fighting Buddha" prety sure he also granded another immortality on top as well LOL.
@e-toli636
@e-toli636 Ай бұрын
that ultra golden frieza render genuinely startled me. the shaft follows me everywhere
@kiagusabiyan8410
@kiagusabiyan8410 Ай бұрын
Goku with every abilities in DB would literally be Cosmic level threat within many verse. Just imagine his aura alone can passively erased someone out of existence at conceptual, information, and historic level.
@Zihark_
@Zihark_ 17 күн бұрын
I mean he would have Zeno's powers so he can just decide that his opponents don't exist anymore and he wins
@itsbrright
@itsbrright 16 күн бұрын
@@Zihark_majority of stronger verses have erasure resistance, or straight up just can’t be erased so yea
@sebastiandalsgaard8694
@sebastiandalsgaard8694 16 күн бұрын
he gets the abilities of the super dragon balls, he can just make anything appear and or disappear at the will, he also has xeno's power just erase them from exsistence
@Lance-wn9dc
@Lance-wn9dc 13 күн бұрын
​@@itsbrrightYea but the big 3 don't
@HOLDENPOPE
@HOLDENPOPE 11 күн бұрын
@@Lance-wn9dc They actually do. Yhwach said 'no' to Ichibei trying to erase him, and Aizen later did the same to Yhwach.
@iammas.511
@iammas.511 Ай бұрын
this isn't close because if he 'has every power in their respective anime" then he has zeno's powers which means he'd just have to erase them lmao
@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985
@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985 Ай бұрын
Depends on if xeno can affect other realities or just the dragon worlds version of reality
@Jernix-hugo
@Jernix-hugo Ай бұрын
​@@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985 add more context.
@starkilla102
@starkilla102 Ай бұрын
@@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985seems like he can
@Munchycrunch456
@Munchycrunch456 Ай бұрын
@@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985under this scenario it would work, also Zeno isn’t stated to have any restrictions on his power he’s not like alien x where he has 50 statements of random weaknesses.
@gamercentral2417
@gamercentral2417 Ай бұрын
@@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985zeno literally erased a timeline which holds one DB multiverse. In fact he’s shown he can erase past one timeline as infinite zamasu was traveling past the db multiverse. Zeno is easily hyper with no limitation otherwise the angels probably wouldn’t have rebelled
@Yuta-oGOATsu9000
@Yuta-oGOATsu9000 Ай бұрын
Counter to Deamon hax? Passively reflect any attack or killing intent is mad OP
@filipe_paixao
@filipe_paixao 5 күн бұрын
Luffy and Naruto aside: Ichigo also has acess to time stop (kido) and wish granting/reality manipulation (Hogyouku/Visionary/ many others). The Main advantage I can see for Ichigo to possibly win, would be Mimihagi's stagnation. Since both Ichigo and Goku would be able to erase basically all existence in all dimensions and timelines, Ichigo having the abilities of the characters that existed before those concepts existed (5 Ancestors of the 5 Great Noble Families / Ichibei / Soul King) he would be able to not only exist there, but also Stagnate Goku. And since he has All Mighty combined with Book of the End, he can make Ichibei's bankai be a fixed future/past 💀
@burnscooper892
@burnscooper892 Ай бұрын
Lonk didn’t even bring up the Tori-Bot, who can manipulate the narrative since it’s the embodiment of Akira Toriyama.
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
Ok let’s not go there. Or we’d have to use Ten Ten and Teuchi to even the odds.
@TheUncivilizedNation
@TheUncivilizedNation Ай бұрын
Goku has the Farmer’s Shotgun
@patrickzepol1893
@patrickzepol1893 Ай бұрын
​@@TheUncivilizedNationOH GOD NOT THE SHOTGUN
@cheez313
@cheez313 Ай бұрын
arale
@lmaobox4068
@lmaobox4068 Ай бұрын
That would be funny but this video does only use canon characters
@mlmf2012
@mlmf2012 Ай бұрын
Theres also whis' time rewind ability. We know time manip in dragonball causes an alternate timeline, but whis specifically can rewind every single timeline all at once. Which 100% counters almighty. Cant choose a future when every timeline is being reversed
@Mr.Arcade10
@Mr.Arcade10 Ай бұрын
Super Shenron basically has every single ability known to Dbz/DBS because of his wish granting abilities with no draw backs.
@ThyBait
@ThyBait Ай бұрын
wtf are you talking about that’s not what whis does
@ThyBait
@ThyBait Ай бұрын
Whis also doesn’t counter AllMighty since AllMighty negates any powers he can see/perceive.
@GODEATER2
@GODEATER2 Ай бұрын
@@ThyBait he cant negate an infinite amount of gokus abilities
@ThyBait
@ThyBait Ай бұрын
@@GODEATER2 “an infinite amount of goku abilities” if only you could read
@clashdevil2925
@clashdevil2925 Ай бұрын
Remember that sternritter who can think something and that becomes the reality.... Yea... Bleach has that too
@thesnail4671
@thesnail4671 Күн бұрын
And the hogyuko
@aliestor3273
@aliestor3273 7 күн бұрын
Tier 2 vs Tier 5 characters how will this go such a mystery
@deltalord6969
@deltalord6969 Ай бұрын
Its unfortunate that every dragon ball power includes arale and toribots script manipulation. The big threes powers are still confined into their own fictional verse.
@shirosatsuma4946
@shirosatsuma4946 Ай бұрын
toribot isn't a character in db verse
@yourm8596
@yourm8596 Ай бұрын
​@@shirosatsuma4946toribot appears multiple times throughout the manga and a couple in the anime, he infact appears more than arale, though goku could just replicate author powers with all the powers he has.
@shirosatsuma4946
@shirosatsuma4946 Ай бұрын
@@yourm8596 yeah no he never appears in the actual verse, just in manga covers or notes. He's not actual character in it
@PhantomZone15
@PhantomZone15 Ай бұрын
​@@shirosatsuma4946yourm is right
@AArchetype..
@AArchetype.. Ай бұрын
​@@shirosatsuma4946might be Mandela, but I'm sure he talks to Krillin
@thehonoredone2361
@thehonoredone2361 Ай бұрын
It definitely won't make a speck of difference however I could totally see Luffy being a little jokester and use the Horu Horu no Mi on everybody just to see their reaction.
@patrickzepol1893
@patrickzepol1893 Ай бұрын
Whats that devil fruit ability again i forgot 😅
@TrollingYes
@TrollingYes Ай бұрын
​@@patrickzepol1893someone's skipped thriller bark 😢
@crescentwolf1
@crescentwolf1 Ай бұрын
Or the jacket jacket fruit
@igswh8whdjdi684
@igswh8whdjdi684 Ай бұрын
​@@TrollingYesCome on he is not the only one, i watched every OP episode 2 years ago and i cant remember an arc barely passed through because i didnt have time at that moment just tell us if you know
@Red_04
@Red_04 Ай бұрын
@@TrollingYes that's the Horo Horo no Mi not the Horu Horu no Mi
@user-dk5nx3yg4v
@user-dk5nx3yg4v 22 күн бұрын
His zenkies bout to be crazy
@eddieharmon8873
@eddieharmon8873 Ай бұрын
I don't really know how much it would affect the fight but if Ichigo have every ability from his verse, he'll have the abilities the hogyoku gives Aizen, which is, manifest the desires of those around it, immortality, regeneration, and the power to create illusions, also btw having Aizen's perfect hypnosis would work against Goku, it doesn't matter how strong his will or brain is or if he isn't using his brain, I doesn't just mess with the brain, it messes with all senses, so him attacking without thinking would be almost a down side to him, plus he gains the abilities of Orihime's spirit abilities which actually have time manipulation that would allow him to move through stopped time and reality rejection, so that wouldn't help Goku, horn of salvation to manipulate fate to his will, he has the imagination ability (I forgot the characters now he get's it from) but he could use that to imagine that Goku got hit by Ichibe's name change ability and he'll actually get hit, just like how the guy with the ability imagined that Kenpachi was sent to space and he was literally sent to space, don't forget about weapons from bleach either and they're abilities he has the power of the soul king, but idk if this would help either, but he could open portals to hell whenever he want because his son Kazui, who is canon btw
@Aizen_Sosuke1111
@Aizen_Sosuke1111 8 күн бұрын
Finally someone with an iq above 130 points
@tiagorosario4661
@tiagorosario4661 5 күн бұрын
Cool and all but of you compare them to gokus abilities its over
@tiagorosario4661
@tiagorosario4661 5 күн бұрын
Bro literally has the author power
@Sword_Man_YT
@Sword_Man_YT Ай бұрын
Don’t forget that since Tori-Bot has appeared in the Manga before, Goku would have his abilities too (and since he’s basically the author, Goku can just make the story whatever he wants).
@FagnerLSantos
@FagnerLSantos Ай бұрын
Indeed and Toribot can be considered a character since Krillin directly mentioned him in the Buu Saga.
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
@@FagnerLSantos I thought it was a gag...
@flowclown9179
@flowclown9179 Ай бұрын
​​@@jameschristopher2540 toribot is a living character in Dr slurp, since Dr slurp island is somewhere in DB map it considered canon
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
@@flowclown9179 so what exactly can ToriBot do?
@ka_killers2088
@ka_killers2088 Ай бұрын
@@jameschristopher2540it’s basically the creator of dragon ball
@malikmcfarlane6060
@malikmcfarlane6060 Ай бұрын
Yet people have the nerve to say Dragon Ball doesn't have enough hax abilities and are weak😂
@shido_rimru_
@shido_rimru_ Ай бұрын
Plus goku can use super shenron powers to have any wish he wants lol
@darnellwoods8986
@darnellwoods8986 Ай бұрын
@@shido_rimru_shenron can’t grant his own wishes lol
@faceless5472
@faceless5472 Ай бұрын
​@@darnellwoods8986he can always force wishes onto the big three like "I want to fucking die," and boom, they're dead as fuck
@shido_rimru_
@shido_rimru_ Ай бұрын
@@darnellwoods8986 it's not that serious lol
@darnellwoods8986
@darnellwoods8986 Ай бұрын
@@shido_rimru_ it’s not just correcting u by telling u shenron can’t grant his own wishes. ichigo can’t imagine goku out of existence lol
@savagecabbagedank3771
@savagecabbagedank3771 21 күн бұрын
Does anyone know the artist of the Goku in the thumbnail?
@midgameplay2
@midgameplay2 Ай бұрын
the specail beam cannon is a peirce type ki and dystructo disk is a slice type so in different situations it can be used over the kamehameha
@8bitutopia182
@8bitutopia182 Ай бұрын
I don’t think the people who made that battle royale truly understand how broken Goku with EVERY ability in his verse would be. Cuz not only does he still massively outstat the Big 3, but he can now destroy them with hax. Immortality, Broly’s adaptability, Zeno’s more broken erasure, time skip and stop, Big Gete Star duplication, Moro and Babidi’s magic, Frieza’s potential, Goku Black’s space-time ripping, Super Shenron wish powers, Whis’s time rewinding, whatever deus ex machina powers Grand Priest has, Buu’s absorption, ability to breathe in space, Shin’s Kai Kai technique, Android’s infinite stamina, literally so much more. And that’s not even getting into non-canon abilities and characters yet!
@TheFinalChapters
@TheFinalChapters Ай бұрын
Cooler isn't canon.
@khalifeh22
@khalifeh22 Ай бұрын
Turning people to carrots
@markjack9772
@markjack9772 Ай бұрын
Ichigo with every ability in his verse is also extremely broken the only ability that really Goku has that's a big thing is instant existence Erasure buddy has worse hacks Ichigo except for that
@SKai2609
@SKai2609 Ай бұрын
I dont think infinite stamina matters cause the nikyu nikyu no mi can just reflect tiredness wnd fatigue
@Therealbeastgohan
@Therealbeastgohan Ай бұрын
​@@markjack9772bro can just wish him away
@TheeSinnerman
@TheeSinnerman Ай бұрын
Honestly this would've been more fair if it was just Normal Goku but even then Goku just casually Fondles. It really is just Big Him.
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
I mention that at the start. If it was unequal stats he still just blitzes. But if it’s equal stats and normal Goku, he’s cooked
@he_who_has_no_name
@he_who_has_no_name Ай бұрын
​@@lonkstakestrue. But still, Goku cooks here.
@TheeSinnerman
@TheeSinnerman Ай бұрын
@@lonkstakes If it's equal Stats normal Goku literally gets Packed by Either Luffy or Naruto or Ichigo I 1000% agree Stamina is not that great, he doesn't have that many Abilities or Haxes. The only thing would be his Battle IQ but even then Naruto has Battle IQ as well he's keeping up.
@TheeSinnerman
@TheeSinnerman Ай бұрын
@@lonkstakes Great video by the way I'm already subbed but you need this 100k bruh it's a Necessity 🐐
@zayway5649
@zayway5649 Ай бұрын
​@@TheeSinnermanhe's a much more skilled martial artist than all of em(that's the only rebuttal I have towards your comment) but when equalizing stats thats kind of hard to use in an argument against 3 other people then when you throw hax on there it's really not looking good for goku at all
@Alassandros
@Alassandros 11 күн бұрын
There's two Xeno's in Goku's universe. If he has all his verse's abilities, he wins. He destroys the entire universe with ease.
@themanwiththeplan676
@themanwiththeplan676 Ай бұрын
11:07 He also has Whis' time stop/reversal abilities.
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Ай бұрын
I'm glad that the equal power caveat was put in. It made it so that there was actually a discussion, instead of just "base Goku still wins before the others can even think." That said, Dragon Ball hacks are low key pretty intense. They are just generally outshined by shear power scaling, since DB characters overpower hacks with power.
@cptwablybtw11
@cptwablybtw11 Ай бұрын
0:02 IS THAT LR AGL ULTIMATE GOHAN’S INTRO OST!?!?? (W vid btw, I’m just in love with Gohan’s OST)
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
Just wait for when the active skill ost starts :)
@rudraroopbhattacharjee6191
@rudraroopbhattacharjee6191 Ай бұрын
I mean if you include Eida's ability, you also need to include Daemon's which is basically that if you even think about hurting him the same scale of attack reverses back to you. So if you think of erasing him from existence, you would get erased instead.
@WatermelonCatX
@WatermelonCatX 22 күн бұрын
But that cant happened if time stopped
@Skkia
@Skkia 21 күн бұрын
I forgot the character name But one of the character in dragon ball has a body that transports the damage into different dimension So Goku would take no damage
@gwenthard3817
@gwenthard3817 Ай бұрын
If you do decide to do a part 2, including non canon or abilities with shaky canon could be interesting. Madara's time rewind ability for example could potentially make it a stalemate in the time category where Naruto uses his many layers of precognition, energy reading, ocular prowess and infinite Chakra to reset the battlefield if time is about to be stopped. Omnipotence could then simply be used as a counter measure for the brokenesque Zeno/wish type abilities or to amp his own time reversal effectively making him immune to Goku's and vice versa. This would allow Ichigo and Luffy to go at Goku with much more freedom and maybe make Ichigo landing one of his broken hax more feasible.
@nuclearwaste2062
@nuclearwaste2062 Ай бұрын
Of we include non canon then that means stuff like fortnite and jump force can be used, SDBH to. Xenoverse to. That would make the battle closer, as all of the big 3 and goku show up in jump force. And many in forenite. And luffy is in sdbh.
@C1ph3r420
@C1ph3r420 15 күн бұрын
2 words buddy....xeno goku
@C1ph3r420
@C1ph3r420 15 күн бұрын
​@@nuclearwaste2062it'd be even more of a wipe, cause now you got xeno goku hax and abilities
@Docteur_Hex
@Docteur_Hex Ай бұрын
He has Zeno's erasure, is already faster than time infinte ultra instince and ultra ego *and just the super dragon balls are enough*
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
Yh but normal Goku would lose neg diff
@Docteur_Hex
@Docteur_Hex Ай бұрын
@@jameschristopher2540 nah, he'd blow up the universe
@user-tv3pg2og9p
@user-tv3pg2og9p Ай бұрын
Nah goku would win
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
@@Docteur_Hex and Ichigo alone is universal at base. With the hax he’d erase him.
@Docteur_Hex
@Docteur_Hex Ай бұрын
@@jameschristopher2540 explain how
@riatrapgaming6415
@riatrapgaming6415 Ай бұрын
Simple, Goku Solos.
@dominikjoestar9842
@dominikjoestar9842 Ай бұрын
Goku is just BIG STRONK
@SB_rising
@SB_rising Ай бұрын
Goku solo
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
A close match tho
@_Deleto_
@_Deleto_ Ай бұрын
​@@jameschristopher2540no lmao 💀
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
@@_Deleto_ how? Every verse has existence erasing hax. Idk about one piece cos I didn’t watch it. But maybe his gag abilities with equal stats give Goku a hard time.
@jun3sfall
@jun3sfall Ай бұрын
what about the balance or the antithesis?
@TheLucas0828
@TheLucas0828 Ай бұрын
Equalized Stats Idea: Goku (either just him or whole DB series like this) vs Jotaro but he has the power of every character in the series (anime and manga). Who wins that? Bc you've got GER, D4C, Soft and Wet, Tusk, WoU, and MiH and tons more all combined into one stand. Body/Mind of Ultimate Kars, speed of Pucci, I mean that's a strong opponent right there.
@Shinigami-gm9mf
@Shinigami-gm9mf Ай бұрын
This is just on Ichigo's end, as I felt like he was being cut short compared to say Naruto. But if you want my honest thought (this is based on my current knowledge of One Piece): Goku beats all of them, but with Ichigo, he will have the toughest fight between all 3. I don't think Goku will have much trouble with Shinjutsu, since it hasn't manipulated reality to the same extent Infinite Zamasu exists in (plus its kind of low tier reality warping compared to what Ichigo may have, as all it did was change their memories but its currently not working fully). Ichigo has better offers through the following: Hogyoku can grant wishes and make them reality. Gremmy's imagination hax. Reio's reality warping powers by maintaining the concepts of life and death. Orihime's causality manipulation, Haschwalth's the Balance, and Uryu's Anti Thesis, all of which are the best options Ichigo has to get around Goku's deadlier abilities or Ultra Instinct (if possible). With the Almighty being better than all those powers (Ichigo would also have Reio's version). A few other things as well that weren't mentioned or are better versions than what was brought up. Mimihagi's stagnation (which can counter a few other options for Goku like prevent him from evolving). A better option from Loyd's copying ability (outside the fact Ichigo would have his growth rate, alongside Kenpachi, Aizen, Toshiro, and several more in one, and Ichigo has the best growth rate in verse), would be Pernida's ability to evolve by absorbing the information from its target. Fullbring's powers to control the soul within matter, but the more insane part is that it gets to where it manipulates the laws of physics. Much like Goku, Ichigo would also be immortal (can live for an eternity, regenerate from his soul being erased to nothing, exists between life and death, can ressurrect, has reliant immortality through an item, etc.) on top of infinite stamina through Aizen and Reio, and several options, as well as various forms of spatial and temporal hax (he can BFR someone to another point in time with the Kototsu, stop time with a Kido, etc) And lastly since its pretty late and I don't feel like listing every possible hax on Ichigo's end, its Askin, I think he was cut short, he can not only manipulate poisons, but he can also make himself immune to your attacks. This is all just a surface level look btw, I just feel like on Ichigo's end he was cut short, especially since by feats, I feel like Ichibei's hax is above Omnipotence but it was glossed over.
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
Ichibei’s power is incredibly strong and I didn’t go into much detail. But it is far more conditional than Omnipotence when used by Shibai, at least how we understand it.
@Shinigami-gm9mf
@Shinigami-gm9mf Ай бұрын
I mentioned other things outside of Ichibei's hax that would work better than Shibai's Omnipotence and they wouldn't be as conditional, or they suit better, like Haschwalth's the Balance.
@-Arcueid_Brunestud-
@-Arcueid_Brunestud- Ай бұрын
@@Shinigami-gm9mf that ability can create worlds not only mind hax It's reality warping not low tier imo
@Shinigami-gm9mf
@Shinigami-gm9mf Ай бұрын
@@-Arcueid_Brunestud- I said compared to what Ichigo would have in comparison.
@real4756
@real4756 Ай бұрын
I agree, even if the outcome doesn’t change, ichigos powers were incredibly neglected and made it seem like a one sided curve stomp for goku, when that isn’t the case, ichigo very well puts up a fight i feel like more research could’ve been done for ichigo before making this video
@muro_mayo4134
@muro_mayo4134 Ай бұрын
Love the Lr Ultimate Gohan intro ost you got. Nice
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
The day I stop using Dokkan ost is the day I stop making videos
@evanrideout3246
@evanrideout3246 Ай бұрын
@@lonkstakesdo you play? Or are you just a connoisseur of peak
@io913
@io913 Ай бұрын
​@@lonkstakesdude you forgot an important ability from bleach and that's gremmys shcrift. Idk how you forgot, even goin as far as putting a panel of him and he still went overlooked. This is the only ability that can beat Goku because the characters in this scenario will do anything to win, implying that Ichigo literally got rid of gremmys weakness. So Ichigo can imagine him dead, non existent, never existed, etc. Make himself intangible, invincible, maybe infinite stamina as well. I feel like you missed on something very big that could change the tides of this battle. As well as the soul kings powers, aizen kyoka suigetsu and hogyoku, uryus damage transfer, jugrams shrift, and if LN counts, Ichigo clears.
@io913
@io913 Ай бұрын
​@@lonkstakesand for time stop, the moment Goku lays eyes on Ichigo, Goku is in his world. He could be defeating Ichigo in his world, in reality Ichigo has imagined Goku non existent. True existence erasure can be tanked by hogyoku, as NO MATTER WHAT, as long as it your will hogyoku will keep you alive. (Aizen literally surviving mugetsu.)
@deeo24
@deeo24 15 күн бұрын
goku being in ui and using something like hits time skip with friezas death beams would be crazy work
@Iruka1991
@Iruka1991 Ай бұрын
I would like to hear your thoughts on how would they fair if they all have around the same power level.
@Thing_of_somes
@Thing_of_somes Ай бұрын
Does zamasu’s time-ring which allowed him to do that count as a ability? Its more like a item/accessory since it doesn’t come from his own power
@DannyBoyblue12
@DannyBoyblue12 Ай бұрын
Awesome video bro 👍
@JustSomeGokuEnjoyer2
@JustSomeGokuEnjoyer2 Ай бұрын
do you think Devilmite Beam will work on the big 3? btw you Kind of touched on it already however its important to mention that Infinite Stamina mean Infinite UI and probably infinite time stop via holding his breath.
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
It would likely be indefinite given how he would have the abilities of multiple characters who don’t need to breath ever (Android 16)
@fmrc93
@fmrc93 Ай бұрын
Not to mention he’d have the mastery of UI of Grand Priest who is still Top 3 in the verse.
@strxyclips7475
@strxyclips7475 Ай бұрын
He doesn’t need to hold his breathe because Androids don’t need to breathe
@underratedunderdog2770
@underratedunderdog2770 9 күн бұрын
As soon as you mentioned arale, its already over for everyone
@rowenagamil2359
@rowenagamil2359 22 күн бұрын
Sorry for the late post but if you counted Zano And Grand Priest then it wouldn't be fair bruh.
@TheEternalFlame57
@TheEternalFlame57 Ай бұрын
To add even more to this. That means Goku gets Gas’s wish of being the strongest in the universe which means no matter what he is stronger then them on top of the potential
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
I mean he’s literally shenron. He even gets Zalama’s power of creation. Zeno’s ultimate power of destruction. Both trump the lvls of supreme Kai and destroyers. He also gets ui of say grand priest which again trumps Whis and others like him.
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
He also gets the strongest demons powers. And blah blah
@ThyBait
@ThyBait Ай бұрын
That’s not what that means🤦🏿‍♂️omg you are a prime example that DBZ fans can’t read
@TheEternalFlame57
@TheEternalFlame57 Ай бұрын
@@ThyBait Why is Gas’s wish of growth not counted as an ability?
@ThyBait
@ThyBait Ай бұрын
@@TheEternalFlame57 because it isn’t hax🤦🏿‍♂️that’s also not how it works. Has got surpassed by another person so no it isn’t
@Cio_d-borba
@Cio_d-borba Ай бұрын
Goku also gets other hax abilities like magic, the carrot touch from early db, devilmite beam, near omnipotence, stone spit, timestop (guldo & hit), time reversal (whis) and time skip, copying techniques by seeing them with the third eye (tienshinhan), forced spirit fission, creation (kaio shin's), destruction (GoD's),
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
There were so many other things I didn’t have time to talk about them all😭
@Cio_d-borba
@Cio_d-borba Ай бұрын
@@lonkstakes yea, i wrote the comment before finishing the video, you mentioned it in the end😅 great video by the way
@dsm2417
@dsm2417 Ай бұрын
and zunos omnicience plus furtune babas future visions would make goku know everything them three can and will do with all the info about the abilities
@isaacbell5156
@isaacbell5156 Ай бұрын
And 73 abilities.
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
@@Cio_d-borbaok let’s not go there. Naruto, Luffy and Ichigo also get another 100 more op abilities. I mean what about the existence or universal erasing tso? Or the time stopping from Momo? Or the shrinking any non living thing from ishi? That’s just Naruto. Ichigo gets every hado, every hollow ability, and the even more broken Quincy ones. I mean Grammy can wish anything. What about... I give up. You get the point.!
@NateA_
@NateA_ Ай бұрын
What about Zeno or zalama or super shenron powers?
@amineouachao4625
@amineouachao4625 29 күн бұрын
Itchigo future sight can perfectly predict every move of goku so he is definitely touching him " same for itchigo vs juha where he layed traps for him in the final battle " . And when itchigo touches him its game over , no name , and he will be conquered by fear and many other abilities. Also the miracle is a thing, and imagining anything into reality. I think itchigo is the most broken under these conditions
@Dpsdark
@Dpsdark 28 күн бұрын
How do you predict and counter getting completely how do you hit someone with ultra instinct how do you even do anything against someine who can stop skip forward ad go backward in time exist in multiple timeliness absorb others which woukd be a counter to miracle and ca continousy get stronger broly freeza and ayone elses potential combine would 10x your stats every minute of a fight
@paco2869
@paco2869 24 күн бұрын
Just 1 word: wishes
@HOLDENPOPE
@HOLDENPOPE 11 күн бұрын
@@paco2869 Does Shenron have any feats of wishing away abilities that negate his wishes?
@paco2869
@paco2869 11 күн бұрын
@@HOLDENPOPE I dont think super shenron typa wishes can get negated
@razzo086
@razzo086 Ай бұрын
This is a cool discussion
@TheCabalNoob
@TheCabalNoob Ай бұрын
So basically Goku just became Sun Wukong. Also I just realized you used Dokkan music in the background. I didn't notice at first because I hear it all the time.
@eaglest0554
@eaglest0554 Ай бұрын
I would say that technically arale could be considered outside of goku's abilities since iirc she's technically an existence hopper from a separate series, but even then he would still have a lower tier version of gag powers thanks to characters like the buus (for example, the time super buu fully regenerated instantly from a powerful blast for the sake of laying on his side with a spontaneously summoned magazine and drink.)
@strengthandfist1294
@strengthandfist1294 Ай бұрын
I would say that sternwiter B’s ability to reverse damage inflicted on to him would give Goku much trouble. Let’s not forget about the power of sternwriter A’s ability to recover from all damage inflicted on to him used by Uyru, and Yamamoto’s Bandai which has destructive power if used too long would eventually destroy the plant.
@kingenderraptor
@kingenderraptor Ай бұрын
Dbz also has one funny thing where if you're just outright stronger than someone by a significant amount, their hax just straight up don't work on you.
@Jpx0999
@Jpx0999 Ай бұрын
Yep,ki straigth up ignore hax's if youre powerfull enough to do soo There are soo many examples its jot even funny,but the best one is vegito still fighting even after beijg turned into candy,mf has no brain or heart or even flesh but it is still kicking ass
@fizbutreal
@fizbutreal Ай бұрын
equal stats so that doesnt come into play
@Jpx0999
@Jpx0999 Ай бұрын
@@fizbutreal brolys,Gohan,Cell and Freeza potential do come into play,which means Goku Will get almost all of his Power back in pratically a instant
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
Yh but that’s DBZ Naruto’s hax work on anyone significant stronger. Sakura punches Kaguya, Boruto blitzed Momoshiki, Borushiki stabs Sasuke, Naruto tricks Zabuza etc.
@jameschristopher2540
@jameschristopher2540 Ай бұрын
@@Jpx0999 we get that but the hax thing will work.
@SSJRyu1
@SSJRyu1 Ай бұрын
Agreed on the conclusions. Without stats equal even standard Goku blitz and one shots, and even with stats equal comp DB likely beats comp big 3. People underestimate the hax of DB. The only one I see the big 3 winning is standard Goku with stats equal vs big 3 due to numbers and more hax between them, but at that point if you neutered Goku's speed and power your taking away fundamental aspects of his fighting abilities since he is primarily a physical fighter who focuses on increasing his physical abilities. It would be like saying no jutsu for Naruto, no Bankais for Ichigo or no devil fruit for Luffy.
@Hardracist
@Hardracist Ай бұрын
Even without equalized stats ichigo with every ability in the series cannot be one shot as he has various layers of immortality 🤦 the people over at the power scaling sub were actually knowledgeable on this match up unlike this idiotic video
@thatboi134
@thatboi134 Ай бұрын
While I agree that Goku has a lot more win cons than the big 3, your comparison doesn't really work. Since at least with the video, we gave every single advantage to Goku, but not the big 3. We stated racial abilities from all of these races for Goku to give Goku infinite stamina and immortality, but we didn't do the same for the big 3, such as with the Hogyoku for Bleach making it's user literally immortal and constantly evolving. Also with stats unequal we just say Goku wins because he's physically stronger, and because he's physically stronger, he also resists every single hax from all of the other verses, and also because he's physically stronger, all of the dbz hax automatically work as well with the other verses being unable to resist. See where I'm going? This video also works under the impression where the stats are equal, but still gives Goku hax where the stats that would be given if stats were unequal, like resistance to hax do to him being stronger, but he shouldn't be because the stats are equal.
@matiasmoreno9683
@matiasmoreno9683 Ай бұрын
​@@thatboi134 Dude arale toon force it's all that Goku needs
@DiafolMedrus
@DiafolMedrus 28 күн бұрын
​@@thatboi134 The problem with your theory is... their stats aren't equal. Set them all to 1. Kaioken means Goku is now a 2. x20 means he's now a 20. Super Saiyan, he'd be a 50. SSJ2 he's now 100. No amount of 'transformation' changes any of those lot to the same degree as Goku's transformations do. Theoretically (not sure the exact multipliers because Toriyama decided to ignore them after a point, but the general consensus around is) SSJ4 is a x3000-x4000 increase. SSJG then includes God Ki, which is said to be on a different level altogether (none of the mortals could even sense it, and SSJ2 Vegeta couldn't do much of anything against Beerus, even when they said his 2 went beyond Goku's 3, but SSJG kept pace with (albeit a barely actually trying) Beerus. We can assume SSJG knocks out any power scaling he has before this point, period. Blue then is even stronger than that, described by Goku as the 'Super Saiyan version of SSJG', meaning we can assume he's likely around 50x stronger than SSJG, which is already SO much stronger than SSJ3 they're not even comparable. If he gets Vegeta's Blue Evolved, he's even STRONGER, and MUI on the scale of Angels? None of the big 3 can touch him. The issue will come from verse. Which rules are we using? Naruto rules, they might still have something... maybe... if they can use the power of 'bitchslapping stronger foes for damage' enough to pull a win. If, however, it's DB rules... NONE of them have a scaled power beyond those transformations. Not the Wandenreich, not the Soul King, none of them. A), before any of them can move, Goku's speed and IT powered by MUI would put him in a position to clap them all. B) the only one that might stand a ghost of a chance is Rukia Bankai Ichigo. We don't fully know how Absolute 0 would function in this situation, but if he turns the area around him to Absolute 0, it is possible any energy blast Goku sends out gets sapped by the properties of Abolsute 0. If that is not how it works, and the introduction of energy adds enough energy to disrupt the properties of no particles and atoms even vibrating anymore, it is more likely that Goku would undo and shatter the Bankai, making it useless as well. That's not to mention her Bankai is dangerous for herself, as well, and we never get any canon sources that say she can sustain it indefinitely. Goku can Ki blast from a massive distance, so he doesn't have to get close, and can run out the clock. When Ichigo lets it go, he closes the distance and kills. It all boils down to universe rules, but really, MUI Goku or UE Goku, powered by Blue or other such transformations, or simply going full GoD and Hakai aura, he's likely not getting touched by anyone, or every time they do something to him, they power him (UE), his power scaling is just on a different level.
@thatboi134
@thatboi134 28 күн бұрын
@@DiafolMedrus Again, I agree that Goku would probably win since DBZ has a lot of win cons, but winning off stats is just lame. What's the point of making a video where you make the stats equal, but then you say Goku just wins because he has higher stats. Would have been an interesting video/topic since you could probably bring up and explore some of the more obscure abilities that might surprisingly be a win con with Goku/one of the big 3 Mcs as its user, but instead we're just gonna say Goku speed blitz's and win like that wasn't already obvious.
@cinnabarmanx4214
@cinnabarmanx4214 16 сағат бұрын
Something that wasn’t brought up is that Luffy would be even more screwed here. Not only can Goku counter his gag powers with Arale’s abilities he’d be straight up immune to his gag powers since Beerus isn’t affected by Arale’s gags.
@TheRocksayz29o
@TheRocksayz29o 11 күн бұрын
The almighty + the visionary is a scary combo though. Yes Zamatsu was in other timelines but he wasn’t aware of what took place in the timelines prior (which is why Beerus got to kill him) so ichigo going to a timeline that benefits him the best and making ANYTHING he wants come to pass via the visionary, is scary. Plus he’d adapt fast in battle like Goku but arguably faster bc of Pernida
@fengshuimaster7880
@fengshuimaster7880 Ай бұрын
Another thing that makes goku immune to time manipulation stuff is that he probably has the time ring which makes him immune to any alterations in time, even if it was erasing a version of himself from all timelines. But even if we dont give him that, arale can just run fast enough to go forward or backwards in time so they aint escapin him xd
@Takatacion
@Takatacion Ай бұрын
Some did this with the hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby meme template but they changed it to Dr. Manhattan vs crying baby x 3
@m.sendrio8422
@m.sendrio8422 Ай бұрын
Total facts 🗿🔥❤️👍
@swayxzz
@swayxzz Ай бұрын
does he know ichigo with all schrifts!?!?
@HeavyWeaponsGuy3
@HeavyWeaponsGuy3 Ай бұрын
Why you didn’t mention gremmy’s ability from bleach?
@C1ph3r420
@C1ph3r420 15 күн бұрын
He did when he mentioned the duplication ability for Ichigo (which I know ain't his ability but it still wouldn't matter due to Goku's had just being better, nothing he could imagine could kill him)
@ssj_junior
@ssj_junior Ай бұрын
Goku with regeneration alone would be insane
@joseproro5099
@joseproro5099 3 сағат бұрын
So Goku has infinite energy; so then he can throw an infinite sized Genkidama or use Kaio-ken times Infinity* and if he explodes for the kaioken, he regenerates and has a zenkai. Wth
@MurphyxW
@MurphyxW 4 күн бұрын
If you read the manga, you would know that the highest tier gods in dragon ball isnt just zeno, zeno (omnipotent) is a separated being from zalama (omnipresent/everywhere,everything) and zuno (omniscience/knows everything) So in other words, zalama is in fact, cannon so goku in this scenario would be omniscience, omnipresent and omnipotent, also zalama is better than fused zamasu because zamasu fused with the whole timeline only scale to nigh-omnipresent
@umbrellaxrd
@umbrellaxrd Ай бұрын
number 3 is kinda weird for goku. because how the dragon ball universe work things like xeno, xenoverse, gt ect would be "canon" because they are just different timelines just like trunks's future
@IzBirch
@IzBirch Ай бұрын
You could give a argument for luffy being light speed with the light light fruit if you had the speeds low enough, But then Goku's counter is dyspos light speed mode.
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
It was equal stats so speed doesn’t matter
@shirosatsuma4946
@shirosatsuma4946 Ай бұрын
Please don't tell me you think dyspo is only light speed when he transforms
@yourm8596
@yourm8596 Ай бұрын
You know the light speed mode is a mistranslation, it correctly translates to something along the lines of super speed mode.
@TriedYan
@TriedYan Ай бұрын
I’m not gonna lie to you big homie dragon ball has an argument for light speed as early as well… dragon ball
@issacclavelo6395
@issacclavelo6395 Ай бұрын
Even kid goku faster then light
@jos10ac
@jos10ac 24 күн бұрын
Ichigo also has a version of omnipotence via Gremy
@lamiahunter
@lamiahunter Күн бұрын
I dont think the infinite zammazu works as its an effect of the time ring right?
@Lk21336
@Lk21336 Ай бұрын
Do next (Gt Goku or Whis Vs Aizen or Yhwach) please
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
You want Aizen to get bullied that badly?
@Lk21336
@Lk21336 Ай бұрын
@@lonkstakes yep and Yhwach , the bleach community have gotten out of control thinking bleach is on DBS/GT level smh
@shirosatsuma4946
@shirosatsuma4946 Ай бұрын
@@Lk21336 you don't need whis for that
@issacclavelo6395
@issacclavelo6395 Ай бұрын
​@@shirosatsuma4946fr
@mishaamyousuf1834
@mishaamyousuf1834 Ай бұрын
​@@Lk21336bleach got overrated when it turned in powerscaling
@gogetomasterultrainstinct5768
@gogetomasterultrainstinct5768 Ай бұрын
Luffy w every power in his vers is here just to get one shot by pan again
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Ай бұрын
LMAOO
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Ай бұрын
Anybody that can blow up a planet automatically solo's the entire verse.
@speedyweasel681
@speedyweasel681 Ай бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki the one piece world is many many times larger than a planet level feat
@joyboy3461
@joyboy3461 Ай бұрын
@@speedyweasel681doesn’t really matter imo
@speedyweasel681
@speedyweasel681 Ай бұрын
@@joyboy3461 the strongest characters can tank a single planet level attack, but pretty much doesn't matter
@hex9061
@hex9061 Ай бұрын
Imagine if it was a combination of Both Zamasu end results, infinite Gokus and some merged across timelines.
@jianandreiraut4502
@jianandreiraut4502 Ай бұрын
Hey lonk if you see this comment can you do tanjiro with every power in the verse vs deku with every power in the verse too
@Diezel_Mayweather
@Diezel_Mayweather Ай бұрын
How much more cracked would this Goku be with the Intelligence of Bulma/Zuno ? It might be a worse stomp.
@fmrc93
@fmrc93 Ай бұрын
Not just Bulma, it’d include Gero & Hedo as well
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Ай бұрын
That's not an ability but more so personal character stat's.
@Goji-C
@Goji-C Ай бұрын
Peak video as always lonk
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Ай бұрын
It sucks that a good KZfaqr is so unknown on here, you should always get top comment and most likes.
@ver_2
@ver_2 21 күн бұрын
What about orihimes abilities?
@kemogames2084
@kemogames2084 Ай бұрын
Actually, in this case it would be a stalemate because of combination of Hogyoku, Book Of The End and The Almighty, as Ichigo would be immune to existence erasure as Aizen wasn't able to be erased, and if somehow Ichigo was he would come back with Almighty, and Hogyoku would remove any possible weakness with infinite adaptability. No matter what, this Ichigo cannot be defeated by anything in these 4 anime. You'd need something like Milkman Man Superman to defeat him.
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