Gold Monster 1000 compared with SDC2300 and GPZ7000 in Western Australian mineralised soil.

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Gold Fools Prospecting WA

Gold Fools Prospecting WA

3 жыл бұрын

Comparing the difficulties of using the Goldmonster 1000 with the SDC 2300 and GPZ 7000 on small gold.

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@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 Жыл бұрын
What’s on for 2023! We will be back on our lease in April or May. We will be doing some more pushing and detecting. We have some costean’s to dig down to a tertiary level, that yielded some nice nuggets last year. Do yourself a favour and subscribe so you don’t miss out on the new content. I promise to be more upbeat and less negative as well, LOL.😂 Subscribe and catch the new videos soon.
@MrKeenaz
@MrKeenaz 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should watch the proper minelab vid on how to set up and use a GM 1000. I appreciate you doing this test but you really need to ground balance and speed up the swing speed. GM works on 45khz so it’s excellent for small gold close to the surface up to 6” deep on sub grammars. Keep hammering, do a great vid on the set up of a GM on highly mineralised ground. Check that out then retry your test.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
Mate. In the soil were in you can ground balance till your blue in the face. And yes I have seen all the other videos your talking about , I have tried to replicate the settings in our WA goldfields soil. I am telling you now. Unless the gold is right on the surface or is half a gram or more you won’t hear it. Auto 1 won’t go deep, auto 2 is to noisy. The highest manual you can run is manual 6 and it’s not enough to penetrate to any depth. I didn’t get this monster yesterday I got 2 of them when they first came out. I have have plenty of times to try all the settings and ground balancing methods you can think of. If you have never been to WA then you don’t have the experience with soil that is basically iron rust. Don’t worry I find plenty of gold “ounces” Not with the monster though.
@Gajafar
@Gajafar 3 жыл бұрын
Good honest review. I sold mine within a month unusable in Vic.
@Aaron-uf8wg
@Aaron-uf8wg 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta ground balance it. Mine works well
@user-jr1tk6nz1w
@user-jr1tk6nz1w 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! Ground balance!
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you have found plenty of gold with the GM1000.
@caremir
@caremir 3 жыл бұрын
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@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
@@caremir what did you recommend here🤣 Bill finding a bit of screen wire. Recommend one of your own videos finding gold and I’ll have a look at it.
@gavinclark3266
@gavinclark3266 2 жыл бұрын
Learn to ground balance it before you make a claim
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me what claim I am making?
@davidwelsh829
@davidwelsh829 3 жыл бұрын
You got to keep a VLF moving, in particular that one, as it will balance out those tiny signals. Speed up. The GM would be perfect with a near surface patch of pickers with the 5in. Everything else else of course a PI machine will be oodles better for fast deep searching coverage in WA or anywhere else.
@steviewonder2844
@steviewonder2844 3 жыл бұрын
All the advice/ videos states to ground balance first which you didn't do once..... Doesn't seem like a good demo if you haven't set the machine up per manufacturers instructions. I am a first timer.. used the machine once for a quick test run (QLD) and had heaps of hot rocks.. had to wind back sensitivity but I continued to find lots of metal/a coin and lead sinkers etc at depth... It wasn't a gold area BTW But it is AUD$ 1000.00 machine compared to $9000.00 for the minelab 7000. The GM1000 is going to be put to the test in two weeks time at Clermont where a mate has been detecting for four hard weeks without a find.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
I ground balance it. I know how to do it. You see how you go in Clermont. Ground balancing on auto one can help. It’s not going to help much in all metal mode. As long as your swinging the detector the micro processor is adjusting to the ground. It’s just that in heavily mineralised soil like WA you have to turn the sensitivity down so far it misses gold. When you are on gold bearing ground and all you are finding is junk. Maybe your missing gold. As far as the cost goes, Mine lab don’t make and sell the SDC and the Gpz because the GM 1000 can do as good a job. They sell them because they work where the monster won’t. If you see the narrative of my story, it’s got nothing to with Victorian or Qld goldfields. It’s about using a GM in Western Australian soil. I prefer to find gold when I go detecting. I find plenty. Sadly not with the monster. I bought two of them when I thought like it would do the job. After your trip please let me know how you went. If you do well I will be happy for you.
@cozmo1980
@cozmo1980 3 жыл бұрын
you need to ground balance it mate. Nugget shooter journals has some good videos on it.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
Bill Southern is in Arizona not Western Australia, You mustn’t live in Western Australia and own a Gold Monster.
@cozmo1980
@cozmo1980 3 жыл бұрын
No, from victoria.. sd2000/gp3000 and a GM. i was using Bill southern as a example of the ground balancing technique.
@jmyazzie08
@jmyazzie08 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldfools5445 Arizona has some hot grounds comparable to Australia's soils.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
@@jmyazzie08 that’s true. That’s why when Bill Southern is detecting on shallow bedrock and creek washes, he uses the gold monster. When hunting the deeper mineralised ground he uses the SDC 2300 or the GPZ 7000.
@simonm1528
@simonm1528 3 ай бұрын
Couldn't hear the 1000.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 2 ай бұрын
Because it wasn’t picking anything up.
@JRAVENTURAS
@JRAVENTURAS 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍💯🍀
@dfox344
@dfox344 3 жыл бұрын
I see how it could be extremely frustrating to use the 1000 in WA. I experience the same thing in Arizona and California in highly mineral areas. I primarily use the 1000 along creeks and rivers now and stick to crevices to locate the heavy materials that have dropped off during heavy rains. It doesn’t always display gold but locating heavy material has proven to me that gold is likely mixed in. Thank you for sharing.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I admit I could have done this video better and I was having a problem with the sound on the phone. Never the less, the pont of the video was to show the real life problems that people face when choosing the Goldmonster to detect in heavily mineralised soil. It was to help people understand what they are going to face if they chose this machine for their prospecting trip to Western Australia.
@dfox344
@dfox344 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldfools5445 I agree. Your video and your point was hopefully understood. I really like this hobby of prospecting. I haven't found anything of size yet. I seem to have found almost every led bullet know to man..... lol.. want some..... lol.... keep up the good work..... and thank you for sharing. Daniel...
@dantemadden1533
@dantemadden1533 2 жыл бұрын
I know of some prospectors who go by sound instead of the metal indicator, as there’s a slight difference in sound they make and if you can pick up on it you don’t necessarily have to dig up everything, but on the otherhand sometimes they sound alike and so can be indistinguishable
@eragon2450
@eragon2450 3 жыл бұрын
Buddy you better just leave the gm in the car if you’re not going to use it properly along with your credibility
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I do. I’ll just go and find real gold with the 7000.
@user-ou8nx6vo7z
@user-ou8nx6vo7z 3 жыл бұрын
It's meant as a bedrock machine. I would recommend it top any prospector I know. Pi for hot dirt and deep big gold Vlf for bedrock. Do some research before making defamatory videos. It's the best beginner's machine made
@kogkoko3603
@kogkoko3603 3 жыл бұрын
Γειά σου πατρίδα
@gavinclark3266
@gavinclark3266 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@benwoodbridge4967
@benwoodbridge4967 2 жыл бұрын
Which machine would suit a serious beginner in FNQ?
@user-ou8nx6vo7z
@user-ou8nx6vo7z 2 жыл бұрын
@@benwoodbridge4967 sdc2300 is a great beginner machine gpx6000 is expensive but it's probably the best. Easy to use to.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. That’s what I would recommend. You can set secondhand ones for under $3,000
@DaveR-lo6hq
@DaveR-lo6hq 2 жыл бұрын
The NOX 800 with the 6” coil should be in there too! Thank you
@NoCentsMetalDetecting
@NoCentsMetalDetecting 3 жыл бұрын
New sub good video!
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers. We’re going out again at Easter. Hopefully can make another video.
@miguelsalazar6703
@miguelsalazar6703 3 жыл бұрын
Don't care what we think mate, you allready a winner with those three beauties...
@richardminer1863
@richardminer1863 2 жыл бұрын
You don't know how to ground balance it correctly? I run mine in moderately hot ground with no issues. Proper ground balance and correct settings is all it takes. I could see where it could be an issue in extremely hot ground or by improper balance and settings. In those conditions the 6x more expensive 6000 should do better, but who has an extra 5k to spend? The GM1000 is a fine detector and a great value if you can say any detector is. The good one's are all over priced, more so the 2300, 5000, 6000 and 7000.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 2 жыл бұрын
All detectors are over priced if you see them as the worlds most expensive bits of plastic. That’s not the point though, is it. The pi detectors are good value by way of producing more finds. You ask “who can afford the 5k to spend” It’s those that know the spend is worth it. Check out my other videos. The 7000 has paid it self off many times, and I still have it. So maybe many times more. The monster didn’t even find its worth in three years.
@littlegrails4207
@littlegrails4207 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, so, you are using the machine as you would use the sd and gp. But that is incorrect. You have to really manually adjust the monster to every specific ground, sometimes quite a few times in same area. I think if you learn the machine more, and not use it how you use the others, you'll realize the potential of the gm is 10x better than the way you're miss using it! Definitely not as good as a gpx, but much better than portrayed in this video. Cheers for the info anyway and appreciate the video
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
How do you keep manually adjusting it? You only have the sensitivity to play with. As I showed, auto loses the chirping and the gold. Lowering the sensitivity also looses the gold. I could hear the gold on high manual setting but only because I knew it was there. If I was just sweeping over this ground the detector the sound would have been lost in the cacophony of other noises. My point is, and I will reiterate. This video is not about the monsters ability to find gold, it’s about this machine being recommended to beginner prospectors in the WA goldfields. In pipe clay and quarts piles it works good. It is also good on shallow bedrock. I had two of these machines and spent a lot of time learning how to use it and mastering the sounds. It’s no beginners machine when hunting in iron ore. I don’t have a GPX either, it’s a GPZ.
@BruceschultzAU
@BruceschultzAU 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldfools5445 you turn the machine sensitivity down and ground balance it over a metre square area until you find the highest sensitivity level that you can run with the machine stable. Your not ground balancing it properly and if you knew the monster you would either run it as I described or on auto 2 full bars lit up Auto 1 is shit. You ground balance it properly on auto 2 and see what happens mate. Hope this helps. Remember is a VLF. Cheers Bruce
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
@@BruceschultzAU next time I am out there , I will do as you say. I will then try it on various gold targets I find with the 7000. I will video the results.
@BruceschultzAU
@BruceschultzAU 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldfools5445 that will get thousands of Veiws . It's worth a go mate
@williambriggs8189
@williambriggs8189 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruceschultzAU was gonna say the same thing. He just picked it up, turned it on and started detecting. No balance not adjusting the instrument what so ever. And he wonders why it was making random beeps… obviously because it wasn’t balanced
@MrDJE1970
@MrDJE1970 3 жыл бұрын
So if money wasnt a problem what do you thinks the best detector for gold?
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
If you want a detector that’s good at everything. The GPZ 7000. It can find small gold shallow and big gold deep. It probably can’t find as small as the SDC or GM1000 but it will find a 1 gram at 8 inches, the others can’t. It will find a 1 ounce at two feet. The others can’t. A well tuned GPX will probably find the deeper targets but might struggle on the very small bits. So my conclusion is the GPZ 7000 is the best all round machine currently available. Something new could come out tomorrow and be better, who knows. The GPX 6000 is still to be tested.
@MrDJE1970
@MrDJE1970 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldfools5445 Thanks for the great info, I'm stuck in Japan for next 2 months but be back WA and want to prospect with my children, one of each be the go so we can have a turn
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrDJE1970 just remember, the detector is only a small part in finding gold. You have be in the right place too.
@fallcrack7175
@fallcrack7175 3 жыл бұрын
Gold monster 1000 simply doesn’t work on highly bad ground..not at all
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
True
@thesurfingprospector6345
@thesurfingprospector6345 3 жыл бұрын
Top tips Mark sharing on my page bro ok Great job mate Crouch
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
The Surfing Prospector No worries. Thanks.
@searchmachine
@searchmachine 10 ай бұрын
Good
@robertmackey5608
@robertmackey5608 3 жыл бұрын
You don't know to use the Gold Monster 1000 properly . You have to ground balance it first and sampling the ground not in one spot only. you are swing it way to fast at the beginning. Read the manual you pump it up and down to ground balance it and not in the same spot. It works great in mineralization of soils if you know how to use it. And watch you it is obvious you don't know to use it properly. Pitiful demonstration.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
Please send a link of how to do it. Show me how you ground balance and how fast you detect. Finding gold would be good too.
@abdirahmanmohamed5649
@abdirahmanmohamed5649 2 жыл бұрын
Gold monster 1000 is not good for mineralized soil
@daz41262010
@daz41262010 2 жыл бұрын
great test :)
@user-lf2od9sl7s
@user-lf2od9sl7s 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@davidwolff8903
@davidwolff8903 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed the Monster can be bloody hard work and do ya head in.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 2 жыл бұрын
Sure can.
@mariodibenedetto4160
@mariodibenedetto4160 3 ай бұрын
People should be refunded for the gold monster for misleading the buyers,i mean didn't they test it on ironstone ground during the design,what incompetence,mean whilea White's GMT picks up gold in a bucket of black sand,i kid u not,when ground balance
@mariodibenedetto4160
@mariodibenedetto4160 3 ай бұрын
Back to the drawing board for gold monster, unbelievable.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 ай бұрын
This machine is for quartz, mild clays and bedrock. It’s a poor performer in mineralised ground.
@maffewx1716
@maffewx1716 Жыл бұрын
The GM1000 It's Not suitable anywhere in Australia except maybe beach or garden soil I regret buying it
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 Жыл бұрын
I fully understand. I regret buying mine for general gold detecting. There are certain situations it can be useful.
@maffewx1716
@maffewx1716 Жыл бұрын
@@goldfools5445 the SDC2300 is the Perfect Machine for Serious first time Gold Prospectors in Australia . I just wish it said VLF on the box of the Gold Monster 1000 but in saying that it is probably best VLF metal detector out There today
@fkucutube
@fkucutube 2 жыл бұрын
When you changed the gm to high manual setting you forgot to ground balance of course its going to chatter, do the test again but properly pls.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 2 жыл бұрын
Will take the monster next trip and I’ll do what people have asked for. I’ll put the results in another video.
@rickardo4167
@rickardo4167 2 жыл бұрын
Start up was wrong and ground balance was wrong and your using the wrong coil 5in I’d recommend for bedrock or alluvial exposed reefs pipe clay tight spots etc the 10in coil is moor stable in hot ground and will pick up a sand grain sized piece of gold in the most highly mineralised ground if ground balanced correctly your machine was faulty or your taken the piss you have to understand the vlf’s microprocessor to fully understand the machine it’s self I’m not comparing vlf to pulse induction in any way as it’s two different species of machine but in short this video is a how not to use a gm1000 I’d suggest head over to nugget shooters journals and apply his ground balance techniques . The gm has its place
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 Жыл бұрын
I am not working on bedrock or pipe clay. If you read the description, it says . Why the GM1000 is unsuitable in Western Australian goldfields. I am not interested in sand grain sized nuggets either. VLF detectors are not good in ironised ground as they have no way to regulate, except to reduce the magnetic response. Which in turn makes them ineffective in deeper ground. If you have success with your GM I am happy for you. I will try all the things you suggested as I wish I could make it work better. I will let you know with a new video I am going to make the next time we are on our lease.
@jeremyayers2281
@jeremyayers2281 2 жыл бұрын
First all learn how to ground balance the gold monster 1000 properly before trying to do a demonstration with it
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 2 жыл бұрын
Ok. I have only had two of them for years. I know how to ground balance them. Read the description before you comment. I didn’t say they don’t work, I said they don’t work in West Australian goldfields soil. I mean they don’t work good enough to be a useful detector in these highly mineralised ground.
@jeremyayers2281
@jeremyayers2281 2 жыл бұрын
Well you pump the coil in different places then you throw a couple swings until the machine is balanced.....didn't look like you did that...you just swung that shit around my dude and definitely weren't giving the machine a chance............just saying yes the other machines are better machines.....but good monster works just fine for what it's made to do.....find smaller nuggets in shallower depth
@michaeli1212
@michaeli1212 3 жыл бұрын
Short Bus
@gavinclark3266
@gavinclark3266 2 жыл бұрын
You should take this vid down. It's clear you have no idea how to use this machine. How do you expect to find anything when you don't know how to ground balance it
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 2 жыл бұрын
Do you prospect in the goldfields of Western Australia?
@chrisgross4720
@chrisgross4720 3 жыл бұрын
You need to learn how to use the GM-1000 properly. You do not use like a pi machine and if you listen closely you can definitely hear the difference between the high mineralization and the gold targets. So next time you decide to make a video comparing it to two completely different machines (being pi detectors) understand that the GM is a vlf machine designed for shallow small gold closer to the surface it was never designed to scour the Australian gold fields looking for deep nuggets
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
That was the whole point of the video. I never said the GM isn’t a good machine. I said, it is recommended as a first detector to scout the Australian bush for deep nuggets, by people on Facebook. My point was this. As you have pointed out, it’s not suitable for this purpose. That’s all I was saying. I know how to use the monster, I use it when I need. I bought mine when they first came out. I know it’s uses and limitations.
@TheParrotGuy
@TheParrotGuy 3 жыл бұрын
You need to ground balance. Yes, in WA you would have to always use it in discrimination mode or you'd get very frustrated. Once properly ground balanced and in discrimination mode, you would completely ignore the LCD screen display (as it will show iron targets, but give no audible signal, so no point looking at it). Just listen for, and dig strong targets. That being said, I agree it certainly isn't the best detector for WA conditions.
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not quite that simple. I have been working with this machine for four years. I have tried all the recommended ground balance steps and more. Even Minelab state this machine is not suitable in the WA goldfields. The main gist of this video is a warning to those thinking of purchasing this machine to hunt gold in WA, on the recommendation of people on Facebook forums from people who probably don’t own one, have never been in the WA goldfields. More than likely have never found a speck of gold in their lives. See where I’m coming from.😁💪
@mariodibenedetto4160
@mariodibenedetto4160 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely a piece of garbage, useless gold monster actually gold garbage
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 2 ай бұрын
It’s very limited in highly mineralised ground.
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