The Persona - The Mask That Conceals Your True Self
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Күн бұрынThe persona is one of Carl Jung's most well-known concepts, representing the social mask that we put on. We all embody different masks in different settings, as it is our way to adapt to the demands of society, playing an important part in shaping our social role and in how we deal with other people. But, it also has its dangers.
We will be discussing the dangers of concealing our true self. We may use the persona to help us conceal our vulnerabilities and other parts that we do not want to reveal about ourselves, or we may excessively identify with the persona.
The persona prevents us from what Jung considered the most important task in our lives, the process of individuation, bringing one closer to the Self.
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📚 Recommended Reading
▶ Man and His Symbols (1964)
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▶ Modern Man In Search of a Soul (1933)
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▶ Memories, Dreams, Reflections (1961)
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▶ Two Essays on Analytical Psychology - C.W. Vol.7 (1967)
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📚 Further Reading Material
▶ The Archetypes and The Collective Unconscious - C.W. Vol.9 Part 1 (1969)
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▶ Aion: Researches into the Phenomenology of the Self - C.W. Vol.9 Part 2 (1969)
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▶ Symbols of Transformation - C.W. Vol.5 (1967)
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▶ Psychological Types - C.W. Vol.6 (1971)
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▶ The Structure and Dynamics of the Psyche - C.W. Vol.8 (1969)
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▶ Psychology and Religion: West and East - C.W. Vol.11 (1970)
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▶ Psychology & Alchemy - C.W. Vol.12 (1968)
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▶ Mysterium Coniunctionis - C.W. Vol.14 (1970)
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⌛ Timestamps
0:00 Introduction: The Persona
1:23 Stages of the Persona
3:16 Being Unconscious of The Persona
4:57 Excessive Identification with The Persona
6:02 The Persona and The Self (Individuation)
7:10 The Persona and Bad Faith
9:10 The Persona and The Collective Unconscious
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📝 Sources
- Carl Jung, C.W. Vol. 7: Two Essays on Analytical Psychology
- Carl Jung, C.W. Vol 9. Part I: Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious
- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...)
- Living Archetypes: The selected works of Anthony Stevens
- Craig, R. P. (1994). The face we put on: Carl Jung for teachers. The clearing house, 67(4), 189-191.
- Taneja, N. Disintegration of Persona and Attainment of Self in Krishna in RK Narayan's “The English Teacher”: A Psychoanalytical Study in Relation to Carl Jung's Theory of Analytical Psychology.
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@attilaschweininger6867 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas man. Thanks for sticking with us.
@jondohnson5538 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is the best on Yt hands down.
@WafflezIsHere1 2 жыл бұрын
Another topic that I suggest is.. Using Persona without losing Oneself..
@WafflezIsHere1 2 жыл бұрын
I am subscribed and will be waiting because the video leaves us with unanswered questions
@matthewteal7134 2 жыл бұрын
There's no evidence of a persona.. there's the body and the personality (which is the byproduct of intelligence)..
@guyedwards22 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually comforting in a way. I'd be willing to bet that a lot of other viewers here have struggled for awhile with the split between being completely genuine with others for the sake of individuation versus putting on a show for the benefits it offers to their social, working, or family life. From Jung's perspective, the construction and employment of a Persona feels like it's something that humans as biological social entities do naturally, just like how birds sing songs to each other. We don't judge the birds for singing, it's just what they do, and it's very beautiful. Makes the whole "mask" thing feel a little less guilty as long as it's healthily maintained.
@non-ofyo-business3399 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it’s not way to many people become identical with their persona and even obsessed with it
@DJ5780 2 жыл бұрын
Well put
@takeuchi5760 2 жыл бұрын
@@non-ofyo-business3399 I know I am, I like many other lean too much towards the collective and tend to ignore or even suppress the individual often for the sake of conformity. But I am working on this.
@jessikablake4784 2 жыл бұрын
well im an outcast so rejecting society is easy i have a sort of inverse identification with my persona, sure i identify with it but im choosing the elements to incorperate into it i dont even believe in ID ive spent many a day not eating because i gotta individuate first and foremost ....when i do take up a day or two of putting on the mask for money i feel the strain and also in living in the world and concerns of the masses is a sort of background static drowning out my self actualization for me the persona is an ideal to live up too and inject with my favorite mythos, tho lately i been jus tryna put it out there raw and honest im a fk up for as much as im a success and thats jus the truth of it as is no filters.... prolly shows lmfao
@carlainsensed3858 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your reply I wish I need to step a long time ago learning it when you're old it's kind of like wanting to live now and you're about to die. Kind of f****** sad
@MalMotorDedo 2 жыл бұрын
I see the "mask" as a way of increasing your accessibility, if I was 100% myself all the time, ppl most likely would tell me to shut up or would say that I'm VERY pretentious. I see it this way, we have the wild spirit, the real self that is displayed when we are alone, and the accesible spirit, the filtered self that we show to other individuals. We could be our wild mind, but we all know that we ALL have some awful traits that shouldn't come out of the studio, so that's what makes the "mask" and this "mask" has a good percentage of our real spirit no matter what.
@CaulkMongler 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely, I see it as an “introductory” stage of what you are and can be. Nobody typically has the patience to “try every dish on the menu” so to speak, but it’s up to the individual what dishes they can push forward. I can show you the dishes that are my personal favorite. The popular dishes. The dishes that are difficult to make and maybe not necessarily most commonly chosen. It’s up to the person.
@celiacresswell6909 Жыл бұрын
Well said. The persona is necessary because we live in societies. If you want to live fully authentically you will live alone!
@mikeleonel Жыл бұрын
@@celiacresswell6909 Yes, that is why prophets and sages go hermit
@celiacresswell6909 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeleonel you would have to be very strong or very crazy
@manuellanthaler2001 Жыл бұрын
Uhm NO. Everyone should show their true self 100% of time and when you misbehave or whatever kind of trauma society put on you there. If you misbehave you shape your true self instead of your mask self... you can change your true self... god this will take 100 years until people would understand this. I mean humanity collectively. If humanity survives that long
@spacebear916 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect for us who always end up in deep thoughts on the holidays.
@lorenzonocera7127 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@earthpearl3790 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, in addition to the the deep thoughts, humor is always welcome. :)
@thatgirl321 2 жыл бұрын
Space bear 🐻 😉
@bijanavvalentino4317 2 жыл бұрын
a👏🏽greed👏🏽
@latuya5887 Жыл бұрын
Not trying to be smart but could you explain what you mean by your comment?
@Metaphix 2 жыл бұрын
Losing a persona and the possible crisis that occurs after that i think plays a massive role in veteran suicide rates
@banjohole 2 жыл бұрын
Yes or if you are a type who loses yourself in relationships and then it ends, you also fall into some crisis.
@Frankaye 2 жыл бұрын
As a veteran, I agree with your assessment. We are all conditioned from a young age about what the military and the constitution stood for, and then conditioned what to say/think/feel/do from men we have never met to break us down and mold us into “men”. Most of these characteristics disappear once you are thrust into what I like to call the “real world”. But man, the military feels more like reality because we were allowed to be ourselves in a sense. I see a lot of veterans going through self-identity crisis’ because they have no idea who they are once they separate. I believe the best memories and experiences come from the military that the civilian world cannot offer. I would like to say most of us have a completely different perspective on the world because of our experiences, as we truly care about society, but society could care less about anything else. If you see a veteran going through a bad time, or even see a veteran living life to the fullest, a heartfelt, genuine, simple, “How are you?” can go a long way. Truly, be honest with your heart, let your guard down, and open up your emotions or the veteran will not open up at all. All veterans want is 10 minutes to sit down and have somebody, anybody, just listen AND understand how they feel. It can save a veterans life. I should know, Ive saved one of my brothers from walking down the path you can’t return from. Although, if you ask most veterans and myself, we would gladly do it all over again, which is a strange feeling.
@latuya5887 Жыл бұрын
@@Frankaye I'm all for getting veterans help and showing them compassion but to say they care about society is a massive lie. Most of these kids get into the military before their fully able to reason such a massive decision not to mention you're most likely an American which means your militarily responsible for some of the biggest crimes against humanity in the last 200 years.
@Frankaye Жыл бұрын
@@latuya5887 You are out of touch with reality. That is what has been programmed and conditioned into your beliefs. Im assuming you are very young with no life experience. Every nation commits atrocities. Do more research before throwing around your subjective perspective.
@latuya5887 Жыл бұрын
@@Frankaye lmao with the whatsboutism
@ironsnowflake1076 2 жыл бұрын
I think many people (including myself) consciously deploy the persona because we know our true self is too caustic & would cause negative reactions that we simply don't have the mental energy to engage with (aka picking the "hill" one dies on, if I'm arguing with you, I adore you)...hence the sugary persona that is a true barrier against interaction, but make no mistake, I'm very aware of the mask 🎭 Great vid, subscribed
@grayson1946 2 жыл бұрын
Not me. What you see is what you get. If you like it fine, if you don’t fine.
@charmedprince 2 жыл бұрын
Very much the same. As also being an introvert, it's so much easier for me to slip out of my persona because I know that only in my own solitude can I truly experience my awareness.
@matthewmeuleman3369 2 жыл бұрын
@@grayson1946 being yourself is a good filter, if people don't like the true you, they aren't worth having around
@spicymcchicken2272 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
@takeuchi5760 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmeuleman3369 I tell myself that a lot but still tend to bend my self out of shape for the persona and then feel awful about it, as even after being aware of it, I identify with it enough to still engage in that behaviour.
@user-ze6ns9pq2y 2 жыл бұрын
For those fortunate enough to be here - I recommend you play the “videogames” Persona 5 & Persona 4 Golden. Phenomenal stories and implementation of Jungian shadows and personas. Incredible experiences
@lmao-mj4ee 2 жыл бұрын
nahh, play persona 1 and 2 duology which are W games
@TheEmperorRaidou 2 жыл бұрын
@@lmao-mj4ee Literally P1 and P2 are more loyal to the works of Jung too lol. The neo persona games are just a mockery of it
@TheEmperorRaidou 2 жыл бұрын
Why only those games M?
@thediabolicalempath7246 2 жыл бұрын
I love those games and I play persona 5 for hours. The quotes are great in this game and definitely shows you your true persona.
@basilofgoodwishes4138 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmperorRaidou Yeah, why are Persona-users exempt from having shadows, when all humans are supposed to have them? There is no such thing as a human without a shadow.
@blac_gat 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I have a persona anymore I used to act out a lot for the attention but I realized that it went against what I am as a person, I think looking so deep into myself has made it all to difficult to understand myself so now I just live and note my reactions to situations
@TinyMaths 2 жыл бұрын
First time I realized this 'persona' thing, I didn't have a name for it. I was around 14 years old and happened to be walking home from school with a couple of other kids. I was all animated and enjoying the interactions until one of them parted ways onto his home street. All of a sudden there was complete silence between the other kid and I. It was almost as if I had become a different person. It felt so weird and I was glad I had to turn off onto another street shortly after that. I understood it had to do with the 'relationship' between me and the remaining kid (or lack of relationship); but that was the first time I awoke to it. I get the feeling nowadays all these years later that a lot of it has to do with how I'm trying to come across to other people, as opposed to just being totally relaxed with what I present as a 'person', which might be an impractical possibility, at least some of the time.
@bakedcrystal915 Жыл бұрын
I mean, maybe talking to your friend made you happy and this other kid you just didn’t know that well
@Soothsayer937 Жыл бұрын
It is interesting how different we can be according to the person we are with. Some people we can "play off of" and some we cannot. I've been wondering about this recently. Some people open us up while some shut us down. Is it like attracts like or opposites attract, or situational? I recently thought how I "hated" a certain person, and my next thought was that must mean I love them (uh-oh). And is it actually myself I see in this person that is manifesting these feelings? For certainly we have these feelings of both like and dislike toward ourselves, our light and dark sides. Great comment, helping me to process some unruly thoughts that have sprouted around another...
@diogeneslantern18 5 ай бұрын
In all likelihood you hadn't matured enough or developed a sense of self enough to be authentic to others whom you did not really know. A person on the path to individuation does not fear expressing their authentic self - that doesn't have for most people until later in life, and certainly not during one's teenage years (when the sense of identity truly starts developing)
@garyoverman4393 2 жыл бұрын
I am a husband, a father, a grandfather, an artist, a technologist, a designer, a Lions Club member, a friend, a philanthropist, a sensei , a believer, a non-believer, a philosopher, a musician etc. etc. etc. I am a Jack of all trades and a master of some. I am but one person, and many persons, but not the exact same person for each of the roles. I try to be authentically “me” in each of those labels without artifice. I can change my role as faster than one can mask up. But I suppose that is what a persona really is. As soon as one attempts to wear a mask that does not genuinely belong to them then they aim to deceive. And only then does a persona become a impedance rather than an asset.
@hotsauce153 2 жыл бұрын
And what's the point of all of what you said, bud
@garyoverman4393 2 жыл бұрын
@@hotsauce153 And what is the point of your question ? You either get it or you don’t. Intended to be allegory. We all have roles… I know mine. Hopefully you recognize yours.
@francoisdeletaille 2 жыл бұрын
But you, as I, are in truth.
@andredelacerdasantos4439 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@eeg-rh7jv 11 ай бұрын
@@hotsauce153comically missed the point lmao
@maybe.next.life. Жыл бұрын
I'm a recovering alcoholic.. these talks and others like it are incredibly helpful to me when I'm frustrated with others, or situations, etc. I wish I had a better way to explain how, but it really does. Thanks for the heads up and insight!
@siorai2089 Жыл бұрын
I was aware of my persona yet still immersed in it heavily and didn't develop my own individuality. The awareness makes it so that it can't be shattered by other people but you are starting to feel extremely tired after every day. I couldn't take it anymore and shattered my persona 3 years ago and still trying to develop my own individuality. I think i did pretty good job considering that i am writing this under this video. But it was really hard and i still have suicidal tendencies. But it feels good to keep moving on the right trajectory at least i think it is right.
@goneson999 Жыл бұрын
I kinda enjoy my hard times you see things truly and different in a good way long story short we are greats just hold on 👁️
@fretnesbutke3233 2 жыл бұрын
Eternalised has some things in common with very few other channels like Academy of Ideas..great thoughts accompanied by great artworks. Entertaining while being ennobling. What an accomplishment and what a concept.
@Aukenieuwenhuijzen. 2 жыл бұрын
True!
@Dark_Peace 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing !
@ReynaSingh 2 жыл бұрын
This channel deserves way more viewers. Keep up the great videos
@ramnair4402 2 жыл бұрын
You're everywhere 🤣
@bettermanchannel770 2 жыл бұрын
She throws good wisdom wherever she goes.
@ram42 2 жыл бұрын
There she is my KZfaq crush
@NeuralOscillations 2 жыл бұрын
Weirdos lmao
@ram42 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeuralOscillations lmaoo
@infinitelyconciousness Жыл бұрын
Remember my persona developing in the adolescences. Suppressing all my impulses and wishes because of shame. Remember seeing other teens suppressing their intuition too and walking mechanical like a robot. And others being more fluent. I Couldnt interpretate my strong new perception and awareness of my body. Now I want achieve this state of being again and listen to my body instead of suppressing its function.
@loveinthematrix 11 ай бұрын
As someone who has been in a narcissistic abusive household since I was born and I'm now going into my 30's, I have found my 'persona' is getting incredibly wonky. It was formed haphazardly and my persona when I'm around my parents was specifically curated to survive my environment and recover from the constant psychological trauma which I am currently facing CPTSD because of. As I'm becoming more aware of my social mask and trying to take it off and be more genuine with myself - I find it pops up very strangely when I'm around my parents. It's becoming to the point where I can step outside of that curated persona more with myself and even strangers - but it seems to uncontrollably take over me with certain people I don't feel safe around. There are certain people I change my voice around to make myself sound innocent and stupid - which was how I survived being around my parents, so my voice would never threaten them which it naturally did when I didn't dumb myself down. This changing of the voice makes me seem weaker than I am, less sure of myself - so when it springs forth when I'm around my parents it triggers a lot of shame. I have to pretend I'm not the survivor I am around them - but that weakened, broken child somehow comes through. I wonder how the persona specifically affects those recovering from childhood trauma because the curation of that persona coincided with some soul-crushing identity ruining circumstances. I'm on the autism so the persona is something I'm very conscious of.
@ricliu4538 8 ай бұрын
Observe your reactions. Become objective. Watch others reactions then control when and how you react...and you will have power beyond your imagination.
@ameliagentle7873 5 ай бұрын
Oh wow I do the same things, revert back to a child like state I really hate that, but I'm trying to do whatever I can to build the confidence to be myself.
@bugpray 2 ай бұрын
i’ve had been going up with abusive parents and too have cptsd. i do this. i thought i was alone🩷
@terencehennegan1439 2 ай бұрын
Becoming authentic doesn’t happen over night especially if one has been broken by one’s parents or partner, it can take time but it will develop if put into practice bit by bit, day by day.
@manuellanthaler2001 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how I learned all of this as a young teenager and that video explains why I am seeing people so differently than everyone else. I always see their true self. And most people are just NPCs thats very... dystopian
@delfobaroni 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve been really taken with Jung of recent, and have provided some fascinating insight into his work. I studied him for years, reading all his books. He’s one of those rare life-changing discoveries… and those kinds of people NEVER come along
@fouadtoumi5402 2 жыл бұрын
They do, read the Quran...
@kyriemanny2800 2 жыл бұрын
They do but ultimately get misguided or mislead from/by society
@user-karo262 2 жыл бұрын
Which books would you recommend?
@kyriemanny2800 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-karo262 “The World as Will and Representation” - Arthur Schopenhauer
@firstangry1010 2 жыл бұрын
I, similar to thou, have noticed this channel’s recent inquiry upon the teachings and philosophies of the GREAT Jung. May I add that mine self is EVER so grateful that this channel may provide such compelling insights. Yo im not lying about liking this channel but you talk too proper for a youtube comment section lmao. It’s just one of my pet peeves -like when the youtube video includes intellectual shit everyone in the comments suddenly has to sound fancy… like bruh. Shut it lol
@nickhowatson4745 Жыл бұрын
sometimes when doing DMT, i would experience the obliteration of the self, the death of the ego and being reborn as a pure consciousness. the feeling that one gets during this is indescribable. its amazing to experience.
@cynically_insane Жыл бұрын
i wanna start doing DMT when i turn 25, do u have any advice? at all?
@iROLL24 Жыл бұрын
I agree my experience with dmt has been the same
@ray_x6959 Жыл бұрын
you can do that without dmt but it can take awhile to develop that subconscious program*
@Anttys_WeyTua_CTa_Eu986 Жыл бұрын
I experienced that with a lot of shrooms
@superspartanman4480 Жыл бұрын
@@thomaseriksen6885 dude is not even a bot lmao
@janicestevenson6496 2 жыл бұрын
The writings of Marshall Vian Summers refer to these different aspects of the mind as personal or surface mind and Knowledge or Impersonal Mind. He writes "Knowledge represents your bond and your intrinsic relationship with all life. Knowledge is your connection to everything. Knowledge is the part of your mind that is spiritual and permanent.... You live life at two levels. You live life at the level at which you think, and you live life at the level at which you know. It is to bring you into life at the level at which you know that is the purpose of true religion in all of its forms. This reunites you with your Creator and with your greater purpose for being in the world. This brings you back to Knowledge, for God can only be known." (Greater Community Spirituality, MVS)
@francoisdeletaille 2 жыл бұрын
I heard of someone who told to love God..
@alwalw9237 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this here. I have looked into Mr. Summers work and was genuninely blown away by it. For me the work he has brought into the world confirmed all that I could feel was true about life, but then added dimensions I could never have imagined. I am convinced humanity has the potential to become a free and compassionate race thanks if more people studied "The Steps to Knowledge".
@johnchapman5125 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Janice.
@thedothandle Жыл бұрын
Psychic equilibrium is a balance between oneself and the collective conciousness I love this
@kristinamullen4066 2 жыл бұрын
I need to return to my art which comes from the collective unconcious, and is full of archetypes.I' m not doing that now and I feel depressed and apathetic.The art you use in your videos is bringing me back to my self.
@Brooder85 2 жыл бұрын
It's much easier to look at oneself in a mirror than in solitude.
@Luipaard005 Жыл бұрын
Personas are necessary to simply get through life in a civilized fashion. They can become dysfunctional but they're simply a part of being human, as natural as breathing.
@ryanp7546 11 ай бұрын
bruh,you had Yosuke Hanamura as ur pfp.That is crazy
@chessdad182 2 жыл бұрын
The picture at the all night cafe is a classic. An emptiness with the individual with his back to us. What is his persona? What is his inner self? I think he must have two personas. His attire makes me think he must engage with people as part of his job, but here he appears unengaged.
@stevehartwell1861 2 жыл бұрын
Your answers reside in the mind of the now passed artist.
@bettermanchannel770 2 жыл бұрын
Accept the roles for each part of your life. Let the persona be integrated with one aim. Kicking life's ass!!
@gracefitzgerald2227 2 жыл бұрын
What a nice quote. Made me smile
@WessideBeats 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this comment.
@bettermanchannel770 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zaklust we try!
@bettermanchannel770 2 жыл бұрын
@@gracefitzgerald2227 😄
@bettermanchannel770 2 жыл бұрын
@@WessideBeats 👊🏻
@PWizz91 2 жыл бұрын
Love your vids man, your soothing unique voice helps me take in whats being said
@MrMarktrumble 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos on Jung appear to be the clearest and easiest to understand that I have seen. Thank you.
@supremereader7614 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. So thankful for these 🙏
@cam-inf-4w5 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Ive been an absence persona for a long time now and....its almost impossible to survive in society
@gabriel.omniversal Жыл бұрын
Wow man. Thank you very much for this video and your channel. It is really giving me a broader perspective about all these concepts. For years I thought I have already figured it all out about this, until I started to ask myself some questions and read Jung's works (which is not an easy task I should say, but your way of explaining in your own words makes it so much easy to digest the information).
@Ravensdrum 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! I am currently in the process of doing some shadow work… It is humbling and empowering at the same time.
@queenofeastafrica7853 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel, I feel you really stimulate our thinking and provoke a deep awareness. I thank you 😇🙏 great video and content.
@Vaite123xD 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know who you are, but your videos are invaluable. Thank you for sharing them with us. Merry Christmas!
@leetsui 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video it is a fantastic filtering down on such a complex behaviour set.
@francoisdeletaille 2 жыл бұрын
Just some thoughts: The choice to consider the origins of persona as only the mask, or face we put out with, is defining the whole approach of this video. But persona, has another origin as well. Which evades the Jung universe. A mask, has basically 2 sides. One that shows outward, one inward. Thus, and obviously, the mask reveals the bearer of the mask, as another entity. The whole idea of a mask, is to be perceived. It is therfore, superficial, emphasizing the covering aspects of the mask. This persona interpretation, is 2-dimensional. Interpreted from outside, it will inevitably reflect. Which is to say, it won't tell us much about the bearer, in truth. The waiter in the café, is not seen as other, as the acting of his role, the participation in a societal play. And of course, from the point of view of this "planar" surface, so called indivuation, or consciousness reflection, is basically lost. Giving room for all kinds of attempts to recognize the bearer in multiple setup categories loosing themselves in "collective" abyssinal constructions. There is another meaning to persona, which is coming from "per-sonare" or sound through. Although there are some obvious similarities, the main difference is, that persona is not 2-dimensional, but represents the whole set through which the "being" of an individ, is manifested. This doesn't exclude a superficial reflecting mask. But includes much more, to the extend of it's being. Like a trumpet to the blow. How consciousness emerges, is very much given by its name con(with)science(knowledge). All these artifacts we put op to analyze the objective self, are doomed to mislead, be deflected. In all honesty, one should attend to know oneself. In truth. The first thing, is to acknowledge, that individuation is a given fact. Not something to achieve. We may feel lost to who or what we are, but we are. And like anything that is, each distinct element, we are unique. Being free, we assume that it is us playing the trumpet. But we are more trumpet, than trumpeter.. Actually, I do not see myself as a bare instrument. I am given. I may play. The whole recognition of the gift of being, is at the core of who we are. Our oneness is a path to understand that "who". As I see it, the abyss, is everything else than what we recognize to be true. ... Time for a cookie
@martitinkovich4489 2 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@francoisdeletaille 2 жыл бұрын
@@martitinkovich4489 the mask etymology of persona refers probably to greek prosopon, meaning "to the view", a name given to the theatrical masks of the time.
@bigboss-qv7pe 2 жыл бұрын
@@martitinkovich4489 I fell asleep as well
@francoisdeletaille 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboss-qv7pe This reminds me of Proust. Were you sleeping? The mother asked. I replied "no" while waking up. Strange things we leave falling in and out of sleep.
@andredelacerdasantos4439 2 жыл бұрын
This explanation was so confusing. It felt like I was having a stroke. Like I was reading something perfectly understandable in terms of period structure, but couldn't take the meaning out of it, but I was glad to read some kind of sensible critique of Jung psychology, which is rare.
@flyingpancake6573 2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this video. i think you just changed my life!
@kohldonnellyskates 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible description of the persona! One question that always arises in me when studying Jung is whether or not he would consider himself to be a psychiatrist/psychoanalyst, philosopher, writer, etc. or if he considered these to be personas? How does one distinguish between a known purpose of the self and a persona when we're inevitably interacting with the outside world?
@lanettee4398 2 жыл бұрын
Can Occupation/ Career Choice belong in same box as Persona? And Purpose? Am just curious.
@earthpearl3790 2 жыл бұрын
In my view both are okay. Underlying both expressions, you might say, is a basic need to belong or to feel okay.
@luciedescoteaux944 2 жыл бұрын
They say we got three faces or masks (persona) One public One private One secret
@theresefournier3269 Жыл бұрын
Some of us, simply cannot be put in a box. And? We are one!
@gunnasintern 2 жыл бұрын
i’m glad to have discovered this channel! it’s on par with other great ones such as Einzelganger, i hope to see your channel blow up even more this year it’d also be cool if you could make a video on Alan Watts too and explore the philisophies he talked about in his lectures, it’s amazing to see more people talk about these subjects more
@portiamartinez9002 Жыл бұрын
I would add - you could look up Alan Watts on KZfaq-😊
@dave9401 2 жыл бұрын
You make some of the best content on KZfaq. Absolutely fascinating stuff. Your voice is also smooth like butter 🍞😀
@fatcat8598 2 жыл бұрын
Great timing. I was just thinking about this idea of persona
@normanclatcher 2 жыл бұрын
Indicative of a rich inner discourse. You may very well know yourself.
@kaneclarke4825 2 жыл бұрын
Very well made video here, congratulations on your efforts!
@narcisoanasui246 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video 💫
@thomasandersen9310 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video.
@FelixSkura 2 жыл бұрын
It's not too much fun to know yourself too well or think you do - everyone needs a little conceit to carry them through and past the falls.
@mippim8765 2 жыл бұрын
........stuff like this seems scary or something.
@andredelacerdasantos4439 2 жыл бұрын
Conscience cannot grasp the mind completely, as it is contained in it, it can only grasp portions of it, and only if it is small enough. Else, it over identifies with the contents it's trying to grasp and loses itself. (Like Nietzsche)
@mippim8765 2 жыл бұрын
@@andredelacerdasantos4439 ......did nietzsche lose himself?
@andredelacerdasantos4439 2 жыл бұрын
Well, he had a psychological meltdown at the very least, and Jung said it was because he overidentified with the contents of the unconscious.
@takeuchi5760 2 жыл бұрын
@@mippim8765 he did, he had a mental breakdown at the age of 45 I think.
@bettyhaines2570 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great information ❤ and light 😉 Merry Christmas 🎄
@MakeHaolesSkedAgain 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and excellent channel, reminds me of an early Academy of Ideas. 💯
@myouounoanjii 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely video. Can't get enough of Jung.
@LeoCarverr 2 жыл бұрын
Great video !
@ToeMass123 2 жыл бұрын
Great content 👍
@ericddl 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really great explanation of the Persona! Great video as always.
@nunu4evaaa 2 жыл бұрын
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@JohnLucPicard98 Жыл бұрын
I really learned a lot after watching this. Great video
@iudexgodyr8810 Жыл бұрын
For I do not exist: there exist but the thousands of mirrors that reflect me. With every acquaintance I make, the population of phantoms resembling me increases. Somewhere they live, somewhere they multiply. I alone do not exist.
@landotter Жыл бұрын
Streams
@beastoftalvar 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the great stuff that you put out. I really appreciate it!😊
@Avicena-tf5uj Жыл бұрын
This was so good and ended so perfectly
@evaolsson2805 2 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for these beautiful informative videos.
@umtangamandapiano9729 2 жыл бұрын
thank you! great great video!
@AzeKannagi Жыл бұрын
I have heard and comprehended every word, and it’s shredded my avoidance of my solution. All of this can be summed by saying, “Walk your own path.”
@davidjohn9006 Жыл бұрын
Well explained and presented 👍🏼
@MiladJP 2 жыл бұрын
This Channel is so underrated. It is redicolous. I love your content so much. thank you!
@satnamo 2 жыл бұрын
My true self is the only part of me that wants to grow because life itself is will to power.
@KitFross Жыл бұрын
The Art in this is Incredible.
@DeadManVlog 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent look at individuation.
@stephenjoyce5528 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@MusclesAreMagic Ай бұрын
As someone who was diagnosed with PDD as a child, I knew nothing was wrong with me. Only others wanted to pretend/conform more than I wanted to. I liked being myself and let me emotions be what they were. The only thing that was different was that I didn't express them in a way that made others happy. I was true to myself. Always continue to look within, most answers are there. Pretending just makes things more difficult, find your path.
@meh.7640 2 жыл бұрын
i was aware of the existence of personas but i never understood why people do that. i theorize that i have some kind of inability or inhibition to form a persona. i can (after decades of thoughtful and concious training) act nicer than i actually am but i notice that i'm uncomfortable doing it. and i'm always relieved when i can drop the act. i think that's where my extreme selectiveness in terms of people i want to spend time with as opposed to i find exhausting comes from. maybe the former are people who feel similar, who don't like to fake being someone they aren't while also having a personality similar to mine. you could imagine the number of these is extremly small. this also may very well be the reason why so many people i tried to interact with throughout my youth thought i was weird but couldn't tell me why. i think it's weird that being genuine is perceived as weird.
@eyalshlomo1654 2 жыл бұрын
Im so glad KZfaq recommended your video to me, great channel you can be sure I'm gonna sub and recommend you
@tiffanyirvin5318 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@asmaetifaf2257 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always been in a conflict with my self because I thought the person who ppl around me think I am has nothing to what truly I am or at least to how truly I see myself and now after watching this video I understand that it’s not my fault but that my surrounding that is expecting too much from me and what lead me to create this persona that fit with what they want but has nothing to do with me. It’s just feel good and weird to know about that I feel peaceful because I don’t blame myself anymore for that and also I feel like I get closer to understand myself it’s like I am able now to see the line that differentiate between who am i and my persona
@takeuchi5760 2 жыл бұрын
good for you, man
@KrystelSpicerMindArkLateralThi 2 жыл бұрын
The deadliest demon vanquishing. Watch out. On taking my last 2 week vow of honesty, instead of battling demons, I was surrounded by dust & there were none. When the dust settled I saw the ground was covered with little turtle shells & they were light & I could pick them up & kick them around. They went by names "Shannon Doherty", "Phoebe" (from friends), & Winona Ryder & others I'd walked into parties looking like (because, who likes being looked at when they walk into parties right?). I thought they were harmless to move, but they're not. You deal with them very very carefully. For that real estate, you chance being killed. Take it easy with those masks you wear.
@drewford3205 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@tiniesha_b7297 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@777dolf1 Жыл бұрын
The art work called "Archetypes" is for some unknown reason greatly important to me. There are three wagers on the table, yet four players. Who wagered the cross and beads ( perhaps a Crucifix?) . Who did not wager and yet still plays? So many possible answers, truly a great meditation!!!
@franwilby1254 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful ⭐❤
@mayranoguera838 Жыл бұрын
This is so true thank you
@4BrycesBattle 2 жыл бұрын
THAT WAS INTERESTING!!!
@Jose-ur7jz 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I'm going to think long hours about this info.
@jerriharvey4641 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@winter2282 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lord for the my life with Jesus! God Bless 🙏🏻
@whitenose9264 28 күн бұрын
Thank you lord jesus for creating atomic bombs, world wars, starvation, cancer, HIV, and even parasites that lay eggs in peoples brains that once hatched eat away at peoples brains from the inside. Such kind god you are
@jaylo7426 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@tylerlog8732 6 ай бұрын
In addiction, everyone I hung out with was a addict/ criminal , and u had to shape shift all the time because these people you hang out with will look for weakness and try and take advantage of you . I did this for 10 years , and can now read people on a different level
@cherylbristol5144 Жыл бұрын
The persona is our social behavioural self. The true self is our ‘myself’ when you are alone is when you can be you.
@MichaelSmith420fu Жыл бұрын
But when you really think about it.. nothing about you could be what it is without other. From physical reality to your genes to your stimulation, language, attitude..and for the very reason that you are even talking right now..is dependently connected to other people and environment. Imo, your self that everyone is talking about is actually, in truth, analogous to a black hole.
@Luca_683 Жыл бұрын
That’s not how being your true self works.Growing up as a child I’ve always been my self and was my happiest doing so till I was in 5th grade.I began to build a persona and the longer the time passed the more angry and upset I was because I wasn’t being myself and I didn’t even realise it I just thought I was just a moody person.Covid then hit and it gave me time to look into myself and my older bro helped me out after Covid to be myself and meet ppl whilst being myself.It was a hard journey but I finally embrace my inner child and true self
@Luca_683 Жыл бұрын
But even though I am my true self outside of school I still act the same towards the ppl I portrayed my persona too idk why but it’s like my soul doesn’t want to show my best true self to these ppl so I always feel lonely in school but I try to think about my friends and the memories I made outside of school to keep pushing
@Luca_683 Жыл бұрын
Persona is only made through conditioning and its bad because your true self could be very energetic and outgoing like myself but your persona could be introverted and quiet which is myself in school and it drains me so everyone must strive to be their true self.Being your true self doesn’t mean that you going to express everything you can still express yourself appropriately without weirding ppl out which is where social skills come in
@MichaelSmith420fu Жыл бұрын
@@Luca_683that's healthy that your best doesn't want to give itself away.
@takashisenseiiiii 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful.
@camilonavarretealfonso5634 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful channel, nothing more to say.
@eli333y Жыл бұрын
so true bestie!!!!
@Chumama69 Жыл бұрын
thank you
@drimdram 2 жыл бұрын
this artwork in this video is all very interesting. where did you find all of this? would love to look through more stuff like this.
@coyoterooves Жыл бұрын
"Psychic equilibrium," fucking fantastic. Thank you
@nancyhanscom1374 Жыл бұрын
Great voice...great content ty
@infographie Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@happy_life779 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video XOXO
@lalaraeray777 Жыл бұрын
The shadow self is so incredibly complicated and interesting. I have done about 6 years total of therapy where I revealed this shadow and uncovered a part of it.... but even though I THINK I can always recognize my shadow coming out ..... sometimes it just takes over. Psychology is endlessly fascinating and I desperately wish I felt I had the time to go get a degree... I'm only 28 but with the economy it really feels too late or just kinda hopeless for me.... this is also a shadow coming out... crazy stuff
@zippermonster9596 Жыл бұрын
Dude, I’m 39, going back to school. Raised my kids, still married, just want to make myself have a different use now that I’m past one stage going into another. Find balance somewhere. I work and still have many chores Is going to be slow . Don’t let complete societal collapse stop you from making yourself useful.
@TheFuschiaDragonfly 2 жыл бұрын
Just found this video and I think I'll fall in love with this channel. Can you cover also Emil Cioran?
@ozzylogano6732 2 жыл бұрын
Why meditation is necessary. A way to go “out there” without totally jumping in with no way back. Almost all fear the abyss as they are not ready for what they may find.
@ogoyimichael6100 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@rogersol572 2 жыл бұрын
I want to congratulate you for your amazing videos. Keep making them, please.
@chrissyweikoop7931 2 жыл бұрын
i always felt like i dont know who i am. and then, after years of years of trying to please everyone and fitting into society and doing "important" work, i had like some sort of mental breakdown. i cracked, and now i feel like am gone. like, i still dont know who i am, nor do i recognize who i was. but somehow, it doesnt matter. which is nice.
@arianalovelace1133 2 жыл бұрын
Realising that you are nothing but energy that is your existence the external is not important it’s freedom
@caramelsmith1878 2 жыл бұрын
Just found ur chainel....and i love it
@GenericInternetter Жыл бұрын
2:09 there is another option you missed, and it's probably the most common... 4. In private, live without persona. In public, create or draw from memory personae that suit the moment. To prevent any kind of multiple personality disorder or similar, it would be important to only alter the way you present yourself while maintaining your true opinions, principles, and morals. What you present is real, but the way you present is drastically altered. For example, how you conduct yourself at a job interview versus at a drinking session with friends. I'm not saying it's the right option or a healthy option, I'm saying it's quite possibly the most common.
@JohnJohn-cu7nk 2 жыл бұрын
As I listened ,(sought of) I was moving parallel and just ahead with my own ideas. It amused me that as I unpaused the video it reaped what I had just thought and the questions I had asked.. Where these then my individual thoughts or had they been triggered or guided by the initial questions the video had asked.
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