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Where I am, the Iceco costs $700 MORE than the Alpicool... yeah, not happening.

Actually, I got it going again so I'm still using it. Doesn't work correctly if plugged into straight 12 volts. I am running it if 110 volts and it works great. No since in replacing it yet. Going on 7 years of running 24 hours, 7 days a week.

My pleasure!

That’s a bummer.

He’s great!

Yea! Mine's been rock solid. Runs 24/7 in my garage and been on several trips with zero issues.

That’s wild. Do you know the specific numbers? I run off of solar and a jackery 1000 and have not had any power issues.

@@GXOverland To make a fair comparison, I test in the same environment which is my basement where the temperature varies from 66 deg to 70 depending if its winter or summer. I noticed that the TR-60 pulls around 3.5 amps on Eco and 5.0 amps on Max. It varies a little. I usually don't bother with Max mode........just use Eco mode because I'm use to the Engel which only pulls 2.5 amps and has no Max mode. And that has been sufficient. So when on its pulling 3.5 amps from a 13.2v LiFePO4 supply. That is 46.5 watts. But there is a duty cycle where its off for awhile as you know. The ambient temperature will affect the duty cycle. Turns out that average power over a weeks time was around 8 watts and I didn't open and close the lid much at all. I had a power meter in-between the battery and the TR-60. I've got a Battleborn 100Ahr LiFePO4 battery pack that I built up like your Jackery and I ran it for 6.5 days before I stopped the test. Unfortunately my Watt's Up power meter stopped at 65 amp hours before resetting. Dang if I had known that I would have taken readings before it reset. So I didn't see the point in continuing. The battery was at 12.71 volts so there wasn't a lot left. I know when I looked at earlier it was in the 8 watts average area. I estimate that I might have hit 7 days before the BMS terminated things. I usually don't like to take it down that far but only when wanting to know how much capacity I have. Assuming that Battleborn is fairly accurate with their specs that means 100Ah x 13v = 1300 amp-hours. 1300Ah/8 watts is 162.5 hours is 6.77 days. That is close to what I was seeing and so that validates the power at around 8 watts over that many days. I see from Jackery's web site that the 1000 is a 1002Wh (46.5Ah) battery. Those two numbers don't match because 1002Wh/46.5Ah = 21.6v. So I wonder if your 12v output is the raw LiFePO4 voltage or if there is a conversion to make it closer to 12v. Hopefully its the LiFePO4 value as that would take advantage of the LiFePO4 technology. But I do know that other brands convert the voltage down to 12v. I would hope that Jackery would not do that. So the question is what voltage does 46.5Ah represent? What is the actual voltage of the 12v outlet port. Lets use 46Ah and 13v LiFePO4 average for the 12v outlet. Then 46.5Ah x 13v = 604 watt hours. 604wh dived by 8.0 watts = 75.5 hours or 3.15 days without charging. If we use 1002Wh / 8 watts = 125 hours or 5.2 days. So I'm missing something with their specs. At any rate there is plenty of buffer capacity in the battery to account for dark solar nights, etc. Thanks for asking.

What did you end up getting?

That’s awesome. What solar panel and battery are you going with?

@@GXOverland Amazon had a couple of Renogy100 watt eclipse lightweight folding panels (they are out for delivery ATM, yay), the website does not have them anymore. I am still looking for a mppt and will probably just go with an agm deep cycle to keep the cost down. I am still figuring this out. It will only power the refrigerator, maybe lights, not much really.

Nice!

Which one is your favorite?

@@GXOverland I love the look and feel of the VL series, but man the TR60 is pretty sweet too. Either of those are my favorite! I'm trying to get my hands on the VL74, the king of budget fridges! You're lucky to live so close to ICECO, tell Lu I said hi when you stop by for your video of all of his fridges.

I will. The tr60 has been awesome for us.

So wild.

Right?!?!

Totally. Excited to take it on a trip.

@@GXOverland It has been a year. You going to do a review on this fridge?

I prob should. 😬

Nice! What size are you getting?

@@GXOverland I have the VL60

Oops I'm getting the 1000 watt

Nice! It’s a beast.

I have a Rockpals that’s a beast and and runs my dual zone just fine!

You’re welcome! Hope it was helpful.

The first two I got refunded. I think the iceco is the sweet spot. Same compressor as the dometic But less expensive.

It’s a solid compressor.

That’s awesome! The TR series is pretty killer.

@@GXOverland Can't wait to put it to use! STay Up Fam!

So true

It’s killer! What made you pick it?

@@GXOverland I needed something other than a cooler in my truck when I camped and fished, and when I went down the rabbit hole of 12v fridges the SECOP compressor was what led me to order it.

Totally.

I should do an update!

Thank you!

You’re right. It’s not cheap but compared to Engel and dometic, it’s really inexpensive. But that has to come with trade offs which I think they make with the compressor.

@@GXOverland I suspect there was nothing wrong with the compressor on your Alpicool, but the controls, thermostat, sensor or relay.

Yea. Way beyond my abilities. 😂

I got a c40 second hand and it's been working just fine

That's the thing with Alpicool though, quality is hit or miss. I bought 2 units and 1 worked perfectly for a year, and the 2nd one worked well for 7 months before it totally crapped out

I’m not sure but mine had been rock solid. Used it as a freezer and as a fridge.

Woah. Wild. I’ve heard only good things. What failed on the units?

@@GXOverland you should reach out to those buyers. They are all verified and seem very legit. I recommend saving up and doing what i just did.... buy a Dometic or ARB. This is one of those thing not worth skimping on.

EBay is cheaper than Amazon on almost everything.

@@exodusventures373 Dometics not reliable.

Absolutely.

That’s a bummer man. Yeah, I would buy a Volkswagen if I plan on keeping it for less than 100,000 miles the Toyota if I plan on keeping it long term.

from what I understand Alpicool refunded his purchase price on both of them? and let him keep the units too??

They replaced one with another one which also failed.

Valid. So far this one has lasted longer than The other ones. I’ll update if it fails.

@@GXOverland Thanks. As far as the Alpicools, some say getting the LG compressor ones makes a difference.

I heard that the lg is not from lg proper but from a subcontracted partner.

Sorry, this guys math doesn't add up. He says in the video he has had the alpicool for a year. Posted this video 8 months ago and responded to this comment a month ago. As Randy points out he says he JUST got the ICECO which means at posting of that comment he has had the ICECO for 7 months so it has not in fact yet lasted longer than the Alpicool. ICECO just happens to be so close to his house he drove to their factory. To me this all adds up to an unofficial sponsorship from ICECO and this guy is their shill. Not saying it's not a good fridge but if you're going to tell people they should get one thing over another you should have your own story straight.

I think iceco has some 50/50 split models

I have had good luck with the T60 by alpicool

Nice. How long have you had it?

Did you take it overlanding?

it's in my boat in the summer or in the back of my truck when I'm out camping

It’s not silent but quiet. I’m not sure on exact power draw but it can run off of my external battery for a couple days.

I got the Alpicool T50 and I haven't had any problems for over 6 months. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about he's probably getting something to promote this. Customer service is good and pretty quick to respond that it self is good, don't fall into what anyone says until it happens to you. Keep what you have its a good company if you need help. I haven't had to call them as of now, but I did call one time to get some help with the App I wasn't sure about and the girl I got in contact with was nice and polite in explaining the difference functions.

control board looks different thank on my t50 I've never had problems in 1 year of use

I gave them both away to other gx owners. If this one breaks you can have it. 😂😂

Yep. Totally agree.

How long have you had it? Any issues? Mine has been rocksolid.

@@GXOverland About 1 yr

I got mine aprox. 2 years ago, it's been cross country, desert sand blowing in vent slots on plastic, taken some hard bumps, still works great. It was $224. On eBay. New

It’s running solid. It keeps my drinks cold in the garage when I’m not out overlanding. It’s been rock solid.

@@GXOverland Is the discount you mentioned for being connected to your youtube reviews available yet?

Woah you’re right!

Wow. Prices must have gone up. They were around $500 when I got mine.

Dairy Queen will sell ice? The fast food Dairy Queen?

Ha! True! Same with home appliances. Our dishwasher, oven, washer and dryer all connect over wifi. But why tho? 😂

But also I had 2 alpicool’s go out in less than a year.

Super solid. Has not failed me yet and it has been in some really hot and dusty off-road environments. I use it as a garage refrigerator when I am not camping.

😂😂 It’s such a great idea though if they nailed the execution.

When mine is loaded with food or ice im afraid to use the telescoping handle because it's heavy and might break it. I saw one with wheels on the narrow end, and handle that looked more functional.

Nice!

They were cheap. Maybe $200. They replaced the first one and the second one failed too. If I knew about iceco, I would’ve gotten it from the get go.

Truth except these are marketed as off-roading fridges. They’re being used as they were marketed to be used. Now whether they were engineered correctly is the question. Brands like dometic and Engel have been crushing it for a while with legendary reliability but at a cost. Iceco is coming in somewhere in the middle. Nothing fancy with design but solid German compressors and priced right in the gap between Chinese clones and the big guys. Super sparse competition in that space.

@@GXOverland I hear you. But manufacturers can put almost anything in their brochures, things like, "we're the best" or "high altitude". I'm a mechanic by trade and and vibration and shock can kill a lot of mechanical devices, no matter how "Heavy Duty" they're made. Heavy duty...theres another overused phrase. Thanks for the reply GX

Yup. Took it all apart and look for any signs of broken solder, faulty wiring or burned up parts. Everything looked in order. My theory is the compressor. I think that’s the weak link.

Going strong. About to take it on another trip in a couple weeks.

Danfoss rebranded as secop. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secop

Have had my ICECO VL 45 for a year now, runs nonstop in my semi. Holds 38* 24/7. I would buy another one.

@@GXOverland actually they sold Danfoss Compressors (the company that originaly made Danfoss compressor) and then made a new more global company, based in Germany, called Secop, but Secop isnt a part of Danfoss Group, its a company for itself. But Secop was in 2017 sold to a German company called Nidec, then in 2019 Secop was again sold to a company called ESSVP IV. So it has no longer anything to do with Danfoss. It might be based on their old technology and design, but the quality isnt like when Danfoss made it. Shouldnt trust everything you read on Wikipedia. 😅 I have worked as a Cooling Engineer, I live in Denmark and have worked with Danfoss cooling systems and with their control systems. My education was as cooling engineer was based on Danfoss 😅

@@TheGuyFromDenmark95 this is very interesting! What do you think of these secop compressors? Are there any of these refrigerators that you really like it do not like?

@@TheGuyFromDenmark95 Good point about Wikipedia. I don’t cite them for anything.

MSRP for the 60 L is 699.

Walmart.com is selling for $499 just checked

Great deal!

Nice!

Woah not cool! Did they warranty it?

@@GXOverland Waiting to hear, perhaps this week.

Hope it’s covered!

Not yet

@@GXOverland did the coupon code ever happen? Looking to get one of their Dual Zone's in the next couple weeks. Would love to use the code it if its available, thanks.

I spoke to them in English.

Bummer? They refund you?

Email the developer and tell him gxoverland sent you.

Email me. Gxoverland@icloud.com

You are totally right. Relatively it’s cheap but it’s still a lot of money. Too much to spend on something that is not dependable.

Haven't owned one because I've heard they are like BMW, unreliable and expensive.

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what parts need to be cleaned to keep it working?

True. The iceco is a killer bang for the buck tho. Same compressor as dometic.

Dometics not reliable. See RAN sailing on youtube broke down between panama and Hawaii, they lost their milk and ice cream.

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Oh super helpful because we're going to get one or two maybe three

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I would’ve but alpicool was kind enough to send me a replacement. But when the second one failed the same way, they refunded me.

Right on! What makes you guys unique?

@@GXOverland Our strength

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Bummer.

where did you buy it?

Amazon

With a family of four in the middle of nowhere in the hot sun and your fridge becomes a hot box, yeah, wife and the kids are not gonna be happy.

I will still go with the cheap one. I always expect the best and if it fails, i will just buy ice to keep the food cold. Its not the end of the world.

@@walpolecatholic when the nearest ice is 30 miles from camp.... yeah! No thanks! 60 miles is 4-5 gallons of gas. Per day! Plus $3-$5 for ice. Thats $15-$20+ a day to have ice just so you don't get ptomaine poisoning. (Yes, a medical term not used anymore!) So Yeah, for the 3 week vaca, plus the cost of the lost food--- one might as well get something RELIABLE to begin with. And save yourself from a miserable time with the old lady and a bunch of bawling brats! If you know what I mean! And if you can not afford reliable equiptment then you should not go camping! It is not like you can just MacGyver a fridge in an 'unusually' warm desert, for 3 weeks of rock hunting. Just ask me how I might know this!!!!! Good or great equiptment is worth every penny it might cost. And I never leave home without such stuff. Plus backup. LIFE IS JUST TOO SHORT TO DO OTHERWISE!!!

Exactly.

"End of trip"? That would be the least of some folks worries! If you catch my drift. Had that been me and my first serious girlfriend---- one of us would not have walked out of that desert! And only 50-50 on which one it might have been! Intense but very ugly! But I grew! I now vaca alone. Just sooo much easier! And a whole lot more peaceful!!!

Dometic, Engle are more expensive. Also depends on what you are looking for. Compare the warranty ICECO gives on the compressor compared to Alpicool, Costway and the others.

@@glenn5876 No, Dometic and Engle are the same price as Iceco. NONE of them qualify as "affordable", that's a complete lie. Sure, they may have benefits, and it may be worth spending more, ($700 more?) but stop lying and saying they're "affordable" in comparison to others, they simply aren't. They are the exact same price as all the most expensive ones.

@@Green__one As I said, it all depends on what you are looking for. Dual zones are more expensive than plain fridge units. ICECO 75L $999, Dometic 75L $1399.99 and Engel 60QT $1659.99. Right now, ICECO 45L fridge with wheels less than $350.00. Dometic 46L $1099.99 and Engel 43QT $1199.99. So, affordability is to the individual. ICECO gives a 5 year warranty on their compressor. Compare the others.

@@glenn5876 You're hillarious! Iceco doesn't make fridges in the sub $500 range. so stop lying about the $350. The cheapest iceco unit I can find right now is $600, and is only 20L. I *AM* comparing to others. Iceco is an expensive brand, same prices as ARB, Dometic, Engel. If you're talking "affordable" look at Alpicool, Vevor, BougeRV, etc. You can argue that Iceco is *BETTER* than the cheap fridges, and you may be right, but it's hard to imagine they are actually worth 3 times the price! but you can't say they *ARE* a cheap fridge, doing so is just flat out lying.

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The fridge also keeps veggies nice and cold. 😜😂

Thankful I live in America I have options to drink or not to drink that is the question🙀

I wish I knew too! I opened them up and couldn’t figure it out. Nothing burned up. Gave them away and never heard back from them.

I think you are stretching things a bit... Well, quite a lot.

Wasn’t paid a dime to do the video. Just giving my honest thoughts on the product. Still going strong today and it’s been run through it’s paces. Feel free to think what you want about me.