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"Gone Girl" Case | Denise Huskins and Aaron Quinn | Dangers of Incompetent Law Enforcement

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

3 жыл бұрын

This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Denise Huskins and Aaron Quinn, which is also referred to as the “Gone Girl” case?
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@NotIfWhen
@NotIfWhen 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe they used her past sexual assault as an excuse to call her a liar. It must be devastating
@christina.m
@christina.m 3 жыл бұрын
That was so sick and twisted, my jaw dropped
@2007cgarza
@2007cgarza 3 жыл бұрын
Only 6 years ago. Still so much misogyny.
@sherunswithscissors
@sherunswithscissors 3 жыл бұрын
@@2007cgarza - it reminds me of the good old days where if a rape victim didn’t fight then it wasn’t pursued.
@pixielou3000
@pixielou3000 3 жыл бұрын
So true. Loved ones should never give police these kinds of details. ... including past mental health issues as well. Remember the case of Elisa Lam? As soon as her mother told investigators that she suffered from bipolar .... they basically stopped looking for her. At that point they decided she probably either ran away and didn't want to be found or that she committed suicide of her own volition and therefore it was not a priority to search for her anymore. These kinds of idiot cops are infuriating.
@sg-cg6lr
@sg-cg6lr 3 жыл бұрын
Qualified professionals would hesitate to make those types of assumptions like that. They had zero evidence behind that claim. And no right to say that to her family. Though I am not surprised I'm definitely disgusted. They deserved to be charged investigated and when they are found guilty they should be stripped of all accolades and any authority for the rest of their natural lives.
@noelstar1456
@noelstar1456 3 жыл бұрын
You know you’re terrible at policing when the perpetrator tries to convince you it really happened...
@bthomson
@bthomson 3 жыл бұрын
This comment wins the internet!🎖🏆🏅
@miriammanolov9135
@miriammanolov9135 3 жыл бұрын
Yes !!!!
@joulupukki1607
@joulupukki1607 3 жыл бұрын
Truly terrible. These little sherlock holmes wanted to appear so smart yet they was useless as bag of sand
@murphychurch8251
@murphychurch8251 3 жыл бұрын
They must have been trained at the Chief Wiggum Academy.
@MrKaypet
@MrKaypet 3 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson A perfectly expressed rating of @Noel Star's comment that's brilliant It's's on par and in the same style of Dr Grande's funny statements over this police dept." Bet Todd wishes he'd had said this."You know you’re terrible at policing when the perpetrator tries to convince you it really happened"
@tove236
@tove236 3 жыл бұрын
The most dangerous thing police can do is make up their mind on what has happened, and ignore everything that might point them in another direction.
@chad3232132
@chad3232132 3 жыл бұрын
I think the old saying "trust your gut" *usually* works for detectives. I'm sure in a solid majority of cases they use their experience and knowledge to look at the evidence and have a strong feeling for what happened in a case. Problem is putting TOO much stock into that gut feeling without exploring alternatives is something they sometimes do, which happened here. I suspect the fact that the spouse or boyfriend is usually the person responsible for a disappearance weighed very heavily. I get looking into Aaron here, but that despite zero evidence he did it and so much evidence he was telling the truth, it in inexcusable what they did to him. I think the police made up the hoax theory after that purely because they didn't want to admit how bad they screwed up, to save face.
@brad7566
@brad7566 3 жыл бұрын
Which they do all the time unfortunately. This is why we need a separate entity to audit and investigate the police
@chad3232132
@chad3232132 3 жыл бұрын
@@brad7566 Seriously, the whole idea of Internal Affairs (the police investigating themselves) is like implementing regulations on oil and gas companies, but instead of having an outside agency enforce the law, telling those companies to enforce the laws internally. The real world doesn't work that way.
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 3 жыл бұрын
Once they have made up their minds, they almost always ignore evidence to the contrary.
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 3 жыл бұрын
@@chad3232132 The clearance rate for solving homicides has fallen from what it was, say, 50 years ago.
@blanchfor
@blanchfor 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter if you are innocent, GET A LAWYER
@PaganGrace
@PaganGrace 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed but in this case he tried!! Vallejo PD wouldn't let him speak to his lawyer.
@blanchfor
@blanchfor 3 жыл бұрын
@@PaganGrace ok that's illegal I'm glad they got a settlement out of it but nothing is worst to me than cops who break the law.
@PaganGrace
@PaganGrace 3 жыл бұрын
@Jon michael True, and how are you supposed to behave in that situation. I guess refuse to speak until they give up. Also, I feel the $2.5 million settlement was not enough, especially since the woman was being sexually assaulted while they wasted time.
@yourinnerlawyer4035
@yourinnerlawyer4035 2 жыл бұрын
He tried to
@YTStoleMyUsername
@YTStoleMyUsername Жыл бұрын
This should just be posted at the top for all to see under every crime related video. Get it ingrained in people's heads.
@Valkalium
@Valkalium 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely preposterous conduct by the police. The officers on this case shouldn’t be trusted to manage an ice cream stand, let alone an investigation.
@elanahammer1076
@elanahammer1076 3 жыл бұрын
Why not? Are you afraid that the wicked witch’s ice cream is melting? Maybe it’s just a bad day all around and the flying monkeys are melting too! Lol 🤔😜
@maggieryan6988
@maggieryan6988 3 жыл бұрын
Police are not trained enough. Also, there needs to be a screening where not just anyone can be a cop. Perhaps start with a three or four year degree.
@murphychurch8251
@murphychurch8251 3 жыл бұрын
Ice cream policeman: "Sir, you want strawberry flavor!" Customer: "No, actually I..." ICP: "I said, YOU WANT STRAWBERRY FLAVOR! Don't try to fool me!" C: "But I'm allergic to strawberries." ICP: "Listen, your backstory makes you all the more suspicious. Now admit that you'll have strawberry flavor!" Strawberry ice cream: "um...actually, I would rather not have him eat me, because he really is allergic!" ICP: "SCAM! You just want to confuse me in order to get away with the ice cream without paying!"
@stellamaris5405
@stellamaris5405 3 жыл бұрын
@@elanahammer1076 ☘️ What a stupid, childish remark..🙄
@elanahammer1076
@elanahammer1076 3 жыл бұрын
@@stellamaris5405 which comment are you referring to?
@donnag7908
@donnag7908 3 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine the fear Aaron had knowing the police were spending all their time questioning him and not looking for Denise. She could have been dead while they were playing games. Then to top it off they accuse Denise of trying to get attention by reliving her trauma. I have a family member who suffered trauma. I also took courses in college in mental health and trauma. The idea that the police would even suggest that anyone would want to relive their trauma for excitement is insulting and shows their lack of knowledge, not to mention compassion and empathy. If this is how they deal with victims they are in serious need of retraining. Maybe police officers need to spend more time before they put them out on the street taking actual courses in psychology, mental health and trauma.
@mariarosemarie
@mariarosemarie 3 жыл бұрын
I hope JSC makes a video on the interrogation to show how to tell if someone is telling to truth.
@EXROBOWIDOW
@EXROBOWIDOW 3 жыл бұрын
Courses in trauma are not needed to know that a victim isn't eager to experience the "excitement" again. Common sense should tell us this. How is it that we are in 21st century America and some people still think being a victim is fun?? Haven't these police ever met victims of crime? Did they think these people were having a good time?
@JaredTG.
@JaredTG. 3 жыл бұрын
Right that makes absolutely ZERO sense. Someone wanting to relive a trauma. If they want the experience to keep happening well then it isn't a trauma is it?
@JOY-ye2us
@JOY-ye2us 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Now if I see a cop car I hyperventilate and think I’m doing something wrong. Even though I’m not doing anything wrong. This has destroyed my relationship with my daughter because she was taught to respect cops and they are always right, it also made tons of rumors that I was a drug user and or dealer. To this day not even my own lawyer believes me. He asked me how did I get so many drugs in my house. Not including jobs that have done background checks and I’m getting calls for then and until they check my background. I shake a lot and talk in my sleep and my family completely isolated me. Except my father who was upstairs when it happened and knew how they treated me. They handcuffed my hands and feet and put me in a patty wagon. I asked for a priest or a mental health professional and they said they would get one and never did. There was a string in my hoodie and they didn’t even notice! That’s how people hang them selves while locked up and isolated. I saw a court appointed therapist and he said “well you let him in your house!” I’ve lost everyone I love because of this. It was over 3 years ago and it’s not going away. I can see how people look at me and what they really think and I have no one to help.
@JaredTG.
@JaredTG. 3 жыл бұрын
@@JOY-ye2us I'm sorry that happened to you. I wish you the best and hope you find peace.
@emilyhollis4231
@emilyhollis4231 3 жыл бұрын
Another slogan idea..."Guilty until...well, just guilty" As per usual, my favorite part of the day is watching your videos, Dr Grande. 😊
@kemeee5407
@kemeee5407 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, love it. Another idea for a slogan: "Call us when in need; but we already know, the caller is guilty indeed."
@danimacke6937
@danimacke6937 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Dr. Grande very articulately and politely calls out the stupidity of these law-enforcement officers. Love your channel Dr. Grande!! Those three slogans should be adopted by the Vallejo PD
@elanahammer1076
@elanahammer1076 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it takes the heat off of other cities for a while? Go Vallejo Go! 🤔lol
@ryarbrough1195
@ryarbrough1195 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Todd's skillful application of low key shade hits ya' like a Jedi mind trick. The man is a master at his craft.
@pink_sock
@pink_sock 3 жыл бұрын
I just caught my thing in my zipper
@lisas8244
@lisas8244 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryarbrough1195 After reading your comment it occurs to me that you're quite skillful with words yourself.
@pink_sock
@pink_sock 3 жыл бұрын
@Hello World Welp, I found the girl with BPD
@nebraskafrankcourtny
@nebraskafrankcourtny 3 жыл бұрын
They got $2 million compensation WITHOUT admission of wrong-doing by police?! I'm glad they got the money, but NO admission of failure on part of police, no real public rectification of the characters/reputations of victims. Insane!!!
@pete5819
@pete5819 9 ай бұрын
This is why Conservatives like me also hate the police. Corrupt AF & no empathy or compassion nor accountability
@KrisD007
@KrisD007 6 ай бұрын
And the Mustard detective got an award the year and has had 2 promotions so far.
@OWOT-re5jf
@OWOT-re5jf 6 ай бұрын
But they are publicly exposed and humiliated
@Frasianfamily
@Frasianfamily 4 ай бұрын
$2m of citizens’ tax dollars.
@ChristinePerez903
@ChristinePerez903 3 жыл бұрын
Through all that they went through they got married and have a baby girl. That really shows their strength. I am happy that they have peace!! Great video Dr Grande!!
@wendyladybug355laurie4
@wendyladybug355laurie4 3 жыл бұрын
May God Bless Them👼👼✝️✝️
@Lady_Vengeance
@Lady_Vengeance 3 жыл бұрын
Millions of dollars didn’t hurt
@melaniegs5952
@melaniegs5952 2 жыл бұрын
Um two mill minus tax is very little for the trauma/lies
@KrisD007
@KrisD007 6 ай бұрын
@@melaniegs5952plus lawyers get part of that
@davymac92
@davymac92 5 ай бұрын
​@melaniegs5952 you don't have to pay tax on a legal settlement.
@audreysark
@audreysark 3 жыл бұрын
She made up the assault to, "Relive the excitement of the trauma." Right, because having your autonomy & dignity diminished is SO exciting. Another slogan: "Seize the Incompetence."
@MsSilverTulip
@MsSilverTulip 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely vile of them. I've never heard of a more stark ignorance of mental health.
@kadyk4185
@kadyk4185 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievably disgusting comment. Who the hell trained these cops? Such a screwed up case.
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 3 жыл бұрын
Right, as I'm sure all victims want to relive the 'excitement' of their trauma. Did these cops go to CLOWN school to get hired? smh.
@Fionixx1
@Fionixx1 3 жыл бұрын
It's more than just 'incompetence'. This attitude of theirs is straight up misogyny.
@audreysark
@audreysark 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fionixx1 Preach.
@Rasputin443556
@Rasputin443556 3 жыл бұрын
"This demonstrates [the police] know nothing about trauma, but then again, it doesn't appear as though they understood anything about police work, either, so at least they were being consistent." I need to not be sipping soda during these videos, since this almost made me spit out my soda with laughter.
@patriciabentley850
@patriciabentley850 3 жыл бұрын
TOTALLY thought you'd say something like: "Mr. Mustard in the library with a candlestick"
@reneelibby4885
@reneelibby4885 3 жыл бұрын
me too! and def a candlestick
@trustmemysonisadoctor8479
@trustmemysonisadoctor8479 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, how can any one take Det. Mustard seriously, we all know it was Col. Mustard in the library with the candlestick.
@kemeee5407
@kemeee5407 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say something like that lol 😂
@lisas8244
@lisas8244 3 жыл бұрын
Bahaha! My mind's eye was instantly visualizing the "Clue" gameboard upon hearing the name "Mustard".
@Maxwe11Z
@Maxwe11Z 3 жыл бұрын
This story makes my blood boil! No wonder people are reluctant to trust the authorities.
@pete5819
@pete5819 9 ай бұрын
In my experience they significantly lack empathy
@danielx555
@danielx555 3 жыл бұрын
Ancient philosophers taught that one should live one's life in such a way that one does not have to have one's professional errors discussed by Dr Todd Grande.
@meowmeow5592
@meowmeow5592 3 жыл бұрын
😅
@lorismith621
@lorismith621 3 жыл бұрын
Good one ☝️
@nellajoensalo2316
@nellajoensalo2316 3 жыл бұрын
”...at least they were consistent.” I LOVE these little jokes that have such deep meaning to them and give us tool to deal with the triggering subjects. The slogans were perfection. Thank you. ♥️
@evelynmason6628
@evelynmason6628 6 ай бұрын
My favorite aspect of Dr. Grande’s videos 😅
@Emily-ck9ji
@Emily-ck9ji 3 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about this case. It still blows my mind that the police failed to do their jobs in such a spectacular way.
@stevus23
@stevus23 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely crazy
@tankthearc9875
@tankthearc9875 2 жыл бұрын
yet the right wants us to just trust them . right id rather trust a squirrel with my nuts
@pete5819
@pete5819 9 ай бұрын
It leaves me speechless and quiet. Which equates to internally livid. I hate when people are victimized
@KrisD007
@KrisD007 6 ай бұрын
And none of them were reprimanded
@piperjaycie
@piperjaycie 3 жыл бұрын
Literally cannot imagine going through something like this and the one group of people, the police, who are meant to save, protect, and get justice for you, refuse to believe you for no reason at all.
@bthomson
@bthomson 3 жыл бұрын
The definition of a nightmare!
@alexvega7893
@alexvega7893 3 жыл бұрын
In some way this couple was lucky, specially her, that the perpetrator was a so called gentleman felon.
@CJ-fs9gt
@CJ-fs9gt 3 жыл бұрын
It happens more often than not in domestic abuse calls. Unless the victim is bleeding the police take the easy explanation. Less paperwork, no court appearance on their day off duty.
@porpoisstanley5209
@porpoisstanley5209 3 жыл бұрын
Police motto is supposedly “protect and serve,” but really, the job attracts the type of man who only seeks to exert power over others. This id why male police officers have absurdly high rates of domestic abuse, these men are filled with the desire to hurt other people, especially women.
@ThisIsLikeM
@ThisIsLikeM 3 жыл бұрын
People often judge wrongly and end up in disbelief when a victim differs form their picture of a victim.
@iciajay6891
@iciajay6891 3 жыл бұрын
This happens a lot with victims/ survivor's or sa or csa. As a survivor of csa, I get it all the time. Because I did the work and got therepy for 30 years they doubt that I was abused as a kid. And that was from a mental health professional.
@iciajay6891
@iciajay6891 3 жыл бұрын
Another reason ppl prob attacked her, is because of the bias of what victims/ survivor's should act like after an assault. Example is how the cops in the ares thought a woman would enjoy reliving or get excitement from being csa. They assume a 12 year old enjoyed there assault. Therefore thinking csa is not a serious trauma.
@brianpratt3224
@brianpratt3224 3 жыл бұрын
This is why its best not to blindly believe the police, because they are also people and can have flaws like everyone else.
@toocutepuppies6535
@toocutepuppies6535 3 жыл бұрын
And, because they see the things of life we usually don't, they have a huge tendency to immediately blame the victims. Because, blaming anybody else might actually mean they have to do a little actual police work. Pretty difficult when you're entire career is based on bullying people and acting superior.
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 3 жыл бұрын
It is deeper than that. Police lie as a routine tactic. They are allowed to do this.
@member5488
@member5488 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone that isn't always suspicious of "authority" is a fool of the saddest kind. Never trust the government.
@mwilson7842
@mwilson7842 3 жыл бұрын
Ask for an attorney immediately if the cops start to suspect you.
@sarcasticallyrearranged
@sarcasticallyrearranged 3 жыл бұрын
M Wilson If you're being interviewed /talked to, you're already a suspect. That's why every lawyer tells you not to talk to them.
@horrortackleharry
@horrortackleharry 3 жыл бұрын
Even if you believe in polygraph tests, administering one after 12 hours of interrogation right in the middle of a traumatic experience will obviously make all 'results' meaningless.
@bthomson
@bthomson 3 жыл бұрын
After all this isn't Russia!
@MsSilverTulip
@MsSilverTulip 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing to believe in. All they measure is stress. After being interrogated for 18 hours, everyone would feel stressed!
@KrisD007
@KrisD007 6 ай бұрын
The results are all meaningless
@lnorth3560
@lnorth3560 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Dr Grande woukd tell us how he really feels about lie detectors.
@TheMsdmeanor
@TheMsdmeanor 3 жыл бұрын
I often wish dr grande would unleash the beast and offer a judgement heh...then again, it why he is a decent professional. Thanks Dr Todd! Your voice alone brings nice grounding plus....
@joycemarie9702
@joycemarie9702 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect comment! 😂
@EXROBOWIDOW
@EXROBOWIDOW 3 жыл бұрын
I think he may have slight feelings of distrust towards them...
@lisas8244
@lisas8244 3 жыл бұрын
LOL! Spot on.
@lolazal1
@lolazal1 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@user-cs1un6sp1wRennata
@user-cs1un6sp1wRennata 3 жыл бұрын
Awful...They were victims of the intruder and police 👮... Thank you Dr. Grande for your extremely helpful analysis.. 💜
@daveandgena3166
@daveandgena3166 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why municipalities continue to permit this kind of negligence from their police forces. How many millions of dollars are spent defending and paying out to victims. You would think the financial considerations alone would make it worth ensuring your police force is halfway competent and practicing some form of ethics.
@MelindaMc
@MelindaMc 3 жыл бұрын
The police union......
@bluecollarlit
@bluecollarlit 3 жыл бұрын
People have their own lives and challenges -- they don't have energy to focus on one more problem
@brad7566
@brad7566 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Mustard was in league with the kidnapper. There's no way someone just blatantly turns a blind eye to all the evidence or is that incompetent.
@cupcakeninjaandlama
@cupcakeninjaandlama 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a *Clue*
@gph752
@gph752 3 ай бұрын
What about the FBI agent??? Netflix made a connection that makes no sense and can’t be a coincidence
@antiquesrestoration3874
@antiquesrestoration3874 3 жыл бұрын
Savage eval of Vallejo PD that they TOTALLY deserve.
@waitwhat3547
@waitwhat3547 3 жыл бұрын
isn't this the same department that let zodiac killer go because they thought he was black even though witnesses saying he was white, something's wrong with Vallejo PD
@vaughnmiller185
@vaughnmiller185 3 жыл бұрын
@@waitwhat3547 No that was S.F.P.D that likely let Zodiac go; cops in Solano Co are only thought to have heard his voice on the phone. Most departments in the area are pretty bad though.
@DonPeyote420
@DonPeyote420 3 жыл бұрын
the Vallejo cops however dismissed reports of shots fired by the Zodiac on 07/04/1968, thinking it was fireworks as far as I remember
@phoebehill953
@phoebehill953 3 жыл бұрын
My personal motto for the police has always been “To protect and serve -our own self interests”
@ThisIsLikeM
@ThisIsLikeM 3 жыл бұрын
Wow Aaron and Denise should try getting a lot of personal injury compensation for what the police did to them. I'm (once again) shocked by law inforcement.
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 3 жыл бұрын
They did. The settlement was 2.5 million. Small, in my opinion. This is the Bay Area.
@chad3232132
@chad3232132 3 жыл бұрын
I actually understand looking closely at a spouse or boyfriend/girlfriend in cases like this given how often that person is responsible. But this case feels to me like the police overlooked the actual evidence, then refused to admit they screwed up and instead pivoted to another nonsensical theory (hoax) that had no real evidence in order to try to save face. I think they knew it wasn't a hoax but were hoping one would make a false confession against the other so the case would be "solved."
@ThisIsLikeM
@ThisIsLikeM 3 жыл бұрын
@@chad3232132 exactly
@sdsurfgirl60
@sdsurfgirl60 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a clue. Detective Mustard definitely won't make Colonel now. 🤪
@Mama_Bear524
@Mama_Bear524 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@susanneashton1340
@susanneashton1340 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely dijon, not english!
@susanhepburn6040
@susanhepburn6040 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@gabe-po9yi
@gabe-po9yi 3 жыл бұрын
If Matthew wanted to get away with more crimes after Denise's kidnapping, all he had to do was keep victimizing in that jurisdiction. His downfall was going into an area where the police actually investigate.
@TheRealBamboonga
@TheRealBamboonga 3 жыл бұрын
3:56 - Wait wait wait a second... The detective's name is actually MUSTARD?!?!?! Did he have a revolver in the kitchen too??? Wow.
@barbjacobs9333
@barbjacobs9333 3 жыл бұрын
LOL!!
@carpediem3044
@carpediem3044 3 жыл бұрын
Candlestick, in the library...
@pterodactylpie8825
@pterodactylpie8825 3 жыл бұрын
The fact they never admitted to wrongdoing (the police). And they wonder why people don’t trust them??
@Jen39x
@Jen39x 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what really makes me mad - how hard would it be to say they were wrong?
@paulinegallagher7821
@paulinegallagher7821 27 күн бұрын
Police NEVER admit to wrongdoing. Ever watch those traffic stop bodycams where it turns out to be an unjust stop? They will never admit to not having a justifiable reason. There was one, where yes, the man acted like a total ahole when stopped, ripping up his money and shit, but he was stopped for not wearing a seatbelt when in fact he was wearing his seatbelt. The cop refused to accept he pulled him over for no good reason.
@ryarbrough1195
@ryarbrough1195 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Todd's skillful application of low key shade hits ya' like a Jedi mind trick. The man is a master at his craft.
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dr. Grande has the fairest and best critiques of police misconduct on the web. This is not easy to do so thoroughly and dispassionately.
@THE_CDN
@THE_CDN 3 жыл бұрын
"The police didn't want to truly accept responsibility." Not surprised.
@kidcharlemagne926
@kidcharlemagne926 3 жыл бұрын
Another slogan for the cops "Better at gaslighting than City of Palo Alto Gas Company".
@mrs.reluctant4095
@mrs.reluctant4095 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the slightly sarcastic evaluations of the quality of the policeofficer's statements, though my husband works in a policemen's union. Or because of that. In the police it is like it is in every other profession people work in, some are very smart and competent, others are ... less smart.
@Olive131
@Olive131 3 жыл бұрын
And others watch too much TV.
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with that, Mrs. R. I also think these cops were a bit lazy. First, he murdered her. Then, they made up the kidnapping. Case closed. They really didn't seem like they wanted to investigate this one. Tunnel Vision?
@mrs.reluctant4095
@mrs.reluctant4095 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustDr.S Yes. A lack of critical distance to one's own premises. This type of lazyness you mention - over here we call it "Wurschtigkeit" , a devil-may-care attitude - may have played a role, too. Just as you say.
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this Dr Grande and pointing out the incompetence of the police, It's a bad day when even the "kidnapper" has to tell the police they're barking up the wrong tree.
@TeKnoVKNG23
@TeKnoVKNG23 3 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the stupidity of any group of "officials."
@vsanchez7158
@vsanchez7158 3 жыл бұрын
This is terrible. The cops should be ashamed.
@scottricci5063
@scottricci5063 3 жыл бұрын
No, the pigs should be in prison!
@ReaperCH90
@ReaperCH90 3 жыл бұрын
That was the worst police force I have ever heard of. Thanks god I don't live innthe United States.
@brendaforevergreen7436
@brendaforevergreen7436 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis! Even though this case doesn’t include the murder part, I hope you make this a topic for a Bella Grande Media podcast. I envision you and your compadres further shredding this story in the name of justice.
@markfroggington335
@markfroggington335 3 жыл бұрын
What murder part?
@littlefishiesinthese
@littlefishiesinthese Ай бұрын
Statistically, the fact that Denise survived her kidnapping is a miracle. This could have so easily been a case of a woman dying because police didn't believe a witness's account that she'd been kidnapped.
@anonymousstrangeness7348
@anonymousstrangeness7348 3 жыл бұрын
The police motto: "To protect and serve criminals, and blame the victims"
@kristenwilliams5006
@kristenwilliams5006 3 жыл бұрын
"This demonstrates they know nothing about trauma, but then again, it doesn't appear as though they know anything about policework either, so at least they're consistent" Yesss, Dr. Grande giving me life with his deadpan burns once again
@3minutes374
@3minutes374 3 жыл бұрын
*The perpetrator:* The kidnapping wasn’t a hoax. I did it. *The police:* That sign won’t stop me. Because I can’t read.
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 3 жыл бұрын
lol. I think the mall cops would have done a better job than these cops.
@moni6290
@moni6290 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that case. I'm speechless. Really. I have no words. Imagine the horror the couple had to go through.
@patriciabuuck5277
@patriciabuuck5277 3 жыл бұрын
Never talk to cops without a lawyer present. They just want to blame somebody and go home. I thank the magical alien lizards for not changing the plant stand today. Feeling better already🙂
@ThisIsLikeM
@ThisIsLikeM 3 жыл бұрын
Often cops don’t care about your right to consult a lawyer before talking to them or when being arrested.
@GoldenGarden9
@GoldenGarden9 2 жыл бұрын
The alien lizards are in charge of the plant stand(s)?? Who knew?! They must have listened to their psychic voices that said "Today's not a good day to re-arrange things. Give it a rest."
@Carole67182
@Carole67182 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't blame yourself for being a victim; that's our job." Hahaha! But I do wonder how the taxpayers of that city felt about those particular cops.
@annal7364
@annal7364 3 жыл бұрын
Detective Mustard in the Interrogation Room with the Lie Detector!
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 3 жыл бұрын
lol. And all *they* did was lie! Told him he failed the polygraph, told him nobody came to see him. It's like they're all just walking around with a bad case of liabetes. smh.🤣
@annal7364
@annal7364 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustDr.S Haha- liabaetes. I like it! Right-makes you wonder how many other people have been wrongfully convicted at the hands of someone no wiser than a chubby yellow Clue character! 😂
@annal7364
@annal7364 3 жыл бұрын
In all seriousness though, I am tired of the Old Boys’ Club construct. I’ve dealt with it firsthand and it is not fun-so much allowance of unethical practice, and when you finally get the courage to go to someone higher than them, it usually dead-ends because it’s another old boy in the club. Their actions severely and permanently damage people’s lives and they don’t care.
@BrickbyBrick4U
@BrickbyBrick4U 2 жыл бұрын
Just because something is unlikely, does not mean it’s impossible. - Thank you! I have had personal experiences where people in authority acted/thought like this. So frustrating to deal with that narrow mindset. Appreciate your balance!
@decafmocha211
@decafmocha211 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Dr. Grande for setting the record straight on the nonsense of the lie detector.
@lindalmiller429
@lindalmiller429 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible police work. Shame on them.
@moxiemaxie3543
@moxiemaxie3543 3 жыл бұрын
Grande:So called "LIE detector test" Me: I hear his disdain 😂
@Lisared023
@Lisared023 3 жыл бұрын
Detective Mustard! Of course, the police were incompetent!! LOL Why didn't Aaron's FBI brother get involved in this "clown show"?
@4Mr.Crowley2
@4Mr.Crowley2 3 жыл бұрын
In their book they go into great detail about this - it’s terrifying honestly
@northerngirl1637
@northerngirl1637 3 жыл бұрын
Police should never ever be allowed to investigate themselves.
@anneiconex1473
@anneiconex1473 3 жыл бұрын
Detective “MUSTARD” ??? Really!!!! What does police did is absolutely nuts.
@lindalmiller429
@lindalmiller429 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly Detective Mustard didn’t have a CLUE
@octowuss1888
@octowuss1888 3 жыл бұрын
He just couldn't cut it.
@SueP-D
@SueP-D 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I heard he’s Colonel Mustard’s nephew. 😂
@MelindaMc
@MelindaMc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for my second laugh of the day!!!
@lpr5269
@lpr5269 7 ай бұрын
Some other people involved in the case. Professor Plum. Miss Scarlet. Mrs. Peacock. Mr. Green. And Dr. Orchid. 😂
@EricPetersen2922
@EricPetersen2922 3 жыл бұрын
The police and CJ system in America as a whole needs to be overhauled. Starting with education. The incompetence of law enforcement is deteriorating every year it seems. It certainly isn’t improving. Law enforcement is too focused is spending money on more equipment and show of force than investing in training. Great analysis Dr
@sahartahvili5081
@sahartahvili5081 11 ай бұрын
08:15 The kidnapper was trying to convince the police that he actually kidnapped the victim" First time I'm seeing Dr.Grande chuckling at his own joke :D
@taylor4618
@taylor4618 3 жыл бұрын
I could only get more and more enraged as Dr. Grande continued. Exactly how incompetent must one be to get it wrong on numerous occasions??? After they were proven wrong in their “Aaron murdering Dennise” theory and Dennise corroborating Aaron’s telling of events, you mean to tell me not a single officer thought just maybe they should actually look into the case??? And how egotistical must one be to sink down to accusing a victim of sexual assault of fabricating a second assault to “relive the excitement” instead of admitting to being wrong??? Absolutely disgusting! I promise the last thing a victim of sexual assault is reliving is the so called “excitement” of what happened to them.
@theresar4617
@theresar4617 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the hard work Dr. Grande and good day :) Your videos make my work tolerable.
@theresar4617
@theresar4617 3 жыл бұрын
And I like how so many of the officers in these stories break more laws than the people they are questioning. Not to say all cops are bad of course. Being skeptical is one thing, but completely disregarding claims and denying him his attorney?
@TecOneself
@TecOneself 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was thinking of his work ethics by maintaining loyal to his posts and how it has made my life more understanding, lets say tolerable to myself so I quit my job, (making sense with a lawsuit and appreciating my resources and the goodness of taking boundaries. An example he shows often.)
@mcd5478
@mcd5478 3 жыл бұрын
My choice would be “Don’t blame yourself for being a victim, that’s our job.” 😂🤣😂 But seriously, the more I hear, the more it seems that the whole law enforcement system needs an overhaul with training focused on mental health and critical thinking skills. “Defund the Police” is a horrible slogan, but the idea behind it (more $ towards mental health intervention to descalate volatile situations) may not be as kooky as it sounds. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Excellent video! 💕💖💕👍🏼
@simonw1313
@simonw1313 3 жыл бұрын
From a UK perspective there seems to be an incredible number of law enforcement agencies in the United States and some of them, especially the smaller ones, don't seem overly endowed with competence or integrity. We've went the opposite way in the UK. Perhaps too few which don't have strong links with their locales. For instance I'm in Scotland and we went from about a dozen police forces, each serving a population of several hundred thousand, to one for a population of 5½ million.
@lindalmiller429
@lindalmiller429 3 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@mcd5478
@mcd5478 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonw1313 yes, that sounds like too few law enforcement personnel for that population. I’m definitely not for decreasing the number of positions but maybe a cop could have a well trained mental health professional partner riding with them? OR maybe the police academy needs to change the focus of their training.
@simonw1313
@simonw1313 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcd5478 - Its not a question of staff numbers which will vary with the size of the population they have to serve, it's a question of whether lots of small agencies (I think the US has 4,000+ law enforcement agencies) have the expertise or quality of staff to deal with unusual or difficult cases. It seems unlikely that they all will have the capacity to do that.
@rebelliousraven
@rebelliousraven 3 жыл бұрын
I think you missed your calling as an actor. You deserve an academy award for keeping a straight face 😑 while delivering these cases. I sure as hell can't while listening to them. This is one of the best.
@dantauche7917
@dantauche7917 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else burst out laughing at Dr Grandes "dull" jokes like I do?
@elizabeth-ty3he
@elizabeth-ty3he 3 жыл бұрын
Id say dry not dull
@lisas8244
@lisas8244 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing dull about Dr.Grande's witty, dry execution.
@dantauche7917
@dantauche7917 3 жыл бұрын
Dry or witty are definitely better words for it, I couldnt think of those or anything better at the time. I love his jokes.
@m3528i
@m3528i 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the Cops and the Media share a motto. "To Protect And Serve (the narrative)"
@milestonowheres
@milestonowheres 3 жыл бұрын
The hiker “ mostly harmless “ would be an interesting subject..
@geraldfriend256
@geraldfriend256 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a mostly peaceful riot I mean protest
@notasdemy
@notasdemy 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Mindy849
@Mindy849 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and analysis on this matter. I'm glad the police department was held accountable.
@drdrai7479
@drdrai7479 3 жыл бұрын
I heard this story on the Criminal podcast, absolutely incredible how poorly the whole case was handled, even if it was extremely unusual.
@SanamJanamian
@SanamJanamian 3 жыл бұрын
I like the “ if you call us you’re already guilty” 😆😆 sounds about right. I know Vallejo doesn’t have the best reputation and has a lot of criminal activities, but still this case is outrageous. I think this case shows how easily serious crimes can be overlooked in less safe neighborhoods.
@dortesandal4303
@dortesandal4303 3 жыл бұрын
This was so well made♥️. Police forces around the globe are experiencing an unfaltering drop in intelligence on All levels - it is highly disturbing.
@sarabeg6924
@sarabeg6924 3 жыл бұрын
The shade thrown at the police 👏🏼 this is why Dr. Grande is my favorite counselor educator - an LLPC
@lnc-to4ku
@lnc-to4ku 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video from beginning to end, Dr. Grande! The police officer's conduct was very disturbing! "I guess detective Mustard figured that because he was an awful police officer, he might as well try to be an awful mental health professional as well." 😂 Loved your slogans as well! ;D
@howdycowboy247
@howdycowboy247 3 жыл бұрын
I just read their book and was blown away. I had never heard their story and really liked it...I haven't watched the vid yet but I'm excited to hear your thoughts!!
@nebraskafrankcourtny
@nebraskafrankcourtny 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh I want to get that book!!!
@howdycowboy247
@howdycowboy247 3 жыл бұрын
@@nebraskafrankcourtny it's called Victim F!
@nebraskafrankcourtny
@nebraskafrankcourtny 3 жыл бұрын
@@howdycowboy247 Thank you!!
@brucegelman5582
@brucegelman5582 2 жыл бұрын
As always I appreciate the sarcasm!
@rebeccaholmes1982
@rebeccaholmes1982 3 жыл бұрын
Have you considered doing a video around the history of the polygraph? That would be super interesting.
@HaleThePanda
@HaleThePanda 3 жыл бұрын
Someone fire this whole police squad, please! 😂🙃
@SimbolicProductions
@SimbolicProductions 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of this case until now. So sickening. Cases like this make it so difficult for future victims to trust law enforcement
@3rdson100
@3rdson100 3 жыл бұрын
When ordering the police always hold the Mustard.
@kemeee5407
@kemeee5407 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO 😂
@tessajones9393
@tessajones9393 3 жыл бұрын
I've missed so many of your videos as I've been studying. The first thing I did when finished my studies.. priorities.. catch up on Dr Grande videos 😎☕
@DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT
@DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT 3 жыл бұрын
Given the witless acceptance of ludicrous conspiracy theories by a disturbingly large percentage of the population of this country, it is apparent that a significant number of Americans either have abandoned any semblance of critical thinking skills or never had them in the first place. It follows that this fact would also apply to a significant percentage of law enforcement officers, which is scary as hell.
@bthomson
@bthomson 3 жыл бұрын
Boy do I like the word "witless!". So much of what we hear from people either makes no sense at all or is so dangerous as to be terrifying!
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat 3 жыл бұрын
Savage takedown of the incompetent cops! ❤
@nebraskafrankcourtny
@nebraskafrankcourtny 3 жыл бұрын
Also, it always seemed bizarre to me that, as the story goes, the kidnapper "knocked out" the victims using over-the-counter sleep meds.
@donnag7908
@donnag7908 3 жыл бұрын
It depends how much they were given. Also, had they been drinking before the kidnapper arrived? Were either of them on any type of medication that might interact with a sleep medication? You would think the police would want to ask all of those questions before they make an assumption.
@nebraskafrankcourtny
@nebraskafrankcourtny 3 жыл бұрын
@@donnag7908 I agree!
@Sarablueunicorn
@Sarablueunicorn 3 жыл бұрын
Some people turn like zombies with allergy medicine and can barely keep their heads and eyes open. It's sleep medication anyway, the purpose is to make you sleep, the more the more effective
@nebraskafrankcourtny
@nebraskafrankcourtny 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sarablueunicorn I'm sure you're right - I guess I thought an over-the-counter sleep meds couldn't possibly work on people loaded with adrenaline during home invasion and kidnapping.
@johntaranto29
@johntaranto29 3 жыл бұрын
@@nebraskafrankcourtny go take 30 benadryl (Diphenhydramine)tablets, 30 melatonin tablets, and 30 doxylamine succinate tablets (the nyquil sleepaid)put it in a blender with a cup or so of orange juice and chug it down, even if you smoke some crack beforehand for the adrenaline effect, let me know how it goes when you wake up in the hospital rambling about the spiders on the ceiling and how the tigers won't stop popping your balloons in Mexico. You might have to haunt the coroner or mortician to do it for you though, so I take it back, do not do anything I previously stated OTC medicine can do much more than knock you out, it can kill you or cause permanent brain damage.
@debbiec4530
@debbiec4530 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Another case I never heard of. Sounds like a movie plot. Crazy. Another great vid by Dr Grande. Love that shirt- looks purple on my device. ( Dr Grande is so cute to me. And smart too!😉 )🤠💕
@paintthesky3770
@paintthesky3770 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dr. Grande, can you look into the case of Dannette Millbrook and Jeannette Millbrook who disappeared on March 18, 1990? And try to bring more light to it?
@annalisegiovanni7032
@annalisegiovanni7032 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the new video😁 I found your channel not too long ago & I'm super thankful that I ran across it!!
@Karadoxical
@Karadoxical 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear your take on the Cheshire home invasion murders. The perpetrators seem like such an unlikely pair to me and I'm curious what your take is on how their personalities influenced one another. Excellent analysis on this one, as usual, Dr. Grande. Thank you for creating such interesting and intelligent content!
@nebraskafrankcourtny
@nebraskafrankcourtny 3 жыл бұрын
So many bizarre facts about this case. Like, the kidnapper was actually hoping to get the ex girlfriend, and was surprised to find he had kidnapped a different girlfriend. Means he had known or been stalking the guy? And the part where the victim, once recovered, refused to talk to police because of how they were disbelieving the facts.
@kemeee5407
@kemeee5407 3 жыл бұрын
Another slogan for this police department would be: "Our first thought that comes to mind, will determine that you're guilty of a crime."
@beeimaginative
@beeimaginative 3 жыл бұрын
Detective Mustard in the police station with no Clue!
@trailerparkretirement
@trailerparkretirement 3 жыл бұрын
Love the slogans they were absolutely perfect. Well done
@johnfraser8116
@johnfraser8116 3 жыл бұрын
It just keeps getting better and better! Thanks!
@camuscat123
@camuscat123 3 жыл бұрын
This exemplifies the dangers of bias without appropriate training and motivation for reasoning. The police have acquired a victimizer role in many cases: all while assuming an authoritative role.There are great police officers, and they should be livid at those who abuse their civic duties.
@JasperCatProductions
@JasperCatProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Geez that poor lady.
@toocutepuppies6535
@toocutepuppies6535 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people have lost their lives because of these kinds of "investigations?" Monty Python had a funny/sad line, "Even the police began to take notice!" That just about sums it up.
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 3 жыл бұрын
The clearance rate for murder is very low, despite sophisticated forensics available today.
@natalielawyerchick
@natalielawyerchick 3 жыл бұрын
This is horrible. I’m so sorry for them. What terrible police work
@JoyceKetcherside
@JoyceKetcherside 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, I have to say one of the results I am experiencing from binge-watching your videos, particularly the true crime stories, is a growing distrust of law enforcement! From many of the "true crime" programs I watch, I had the impression that most police and investigators were very dedicated and competent.
@nebraskafrankcourtny
@nebraskafrankcourtny 3 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a movie, actually a documentary, about this case!!! I don't want to see actors portraying them in someone else's interpretation, I want to see a nice documentary showing all the press conferences, interviews, letters to police, etc, laying out all the facts. interrogations, etc. What a horror story!!
@sdsurfgirl60
@sdsurfgirl60 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. The movie is called Gone Girl. Check it out. 🙂
@nebraskafrankcourtny
@nebraskafrankcourtny 3 жыл бұрын
@@sdsurfgirl60 I hope you're joking. If not, you are completely uninformed about this case.
@sdsurfgirl60
@sdsurfgirl60 3 жыл бұрын
@@nebraskafrankcourtny I thought you wanted to know if there's a movie? Not joking. I humbly apologize if I've offended you.
@katyr2382
@katyr2382 3 жыл бұрын
@@sdsurfgirl60 The plot of Gone Girl and this event are not the same
@nebraskafrankcourtny
@nebraskafrankcourtny 3 жыл бұрын
@@sdsurfgirl60 Gone Girl is about a woman faking her own disappearance. In this case, the woman was actually kidnapped. See the difference?
@kewrock
@kewrock 3 жыл бұрын
I hear Walmart is hiring door monitors. Maybe Detective Mustard can get a career more suitable to his skills.
@goldblu6729
@goldblu6729 2 ай бұрын
Oh my God!!!! Unbelievable story!!! Thank you so much for sharing! Love your slogans! I feel bad for the citizens who live in that city. 😢
@annfisher3316
@annfisher3316 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Vallejo slogans! Embarrassingly hilarious 🤣
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