Good or CRAP? Zpacks Plex Solo vs Gossamer Gear 'The One'

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Zpacks Plex Solo vs Gossamer Gear 'The One'
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@musingwithreba9667 Жыл бұрын

The GG The One is actually made of nylon, not polyester. Nylon sags in the rain, polyester does not. I have an X-Mid and have had it out in some soaking rain storms and it never sags. It also doesn't soak up the rain like nylon does, so you're not carrying extra water weight. Just to clarify 😉

@_68niou1 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, preeeeety sure that tent is made of sil-nylon. Not sure why he keeps calling it sil-poly.

@RotasOpera Жыл бұрын

On GG's website, The One is listed as being made of SIL/PU, or silicone-impregnated polyurethane, or silpoly for short. Please consider amending your comment to avoid confusing viewers.

@_68niou1 Жыл бұрын

@@RotasOpera LOL. The material they list is 10 denier Nylon (which is super flimsy). The Sil/PU refers to the waterproof coating they apply which is a combination of silicone and polyurethane, which TBH makes it even worse due to the PU coating being crap. Sil Poly is silicone/impregnated coated polyester fabric.

@_68niou1 Жыл бұрын

@fuzyfuzfuz2 7 ай бұрын

@@_68niou1I feel like the amount of "Your Mom," jokes should be self explanatory 😂

@anthonysmith7280 Жыл бұрын

Great vid brother. I just got the solo plex this hiking season and used it twice so far, really digging it so far. I used a duplex last year during my AT thru-hike and really dug it. Good to hear you liked the solo plex. Be well out there and keep on hammering.

@MrsJoyism Жыл бұрын

I thruhiked with a dyneema tent and ended up with many tiny holes in the floor. If you can always be sure you'll set up the tent somewhere soft, you don't need a groundsheet, but if you ever have to set up on pokey things like pebbles, a groundsheet could save you a lot of money.

@Ryan-yi5ro 2 ай бұрын

Dyneema has incredible tear tensile strength but not good at puncture resistance. This is why I got the. Xmid with a silpoly floor. Stronger, packs smaller and heat bonded seams instead of tape that peels off too.

@earthlingannie3426 Жыл бұрын

Great comparison video! 👍👍 Very well done. I liked the categories.

@tt-of4xv Жыл бұрын

Great video honestly : well organized, specs, feelings, detailed shots. And for which people each tent would be good (because there is no perfect tent).

@twistedbb106 Жыл бұрын

Incredibly helpful video. Thanks man

@juanbackpacks Жыл бұрын

I have hundreds of miles on the GG “one” and the “two”. Some of that time was above tree line. I’ve had no issues with rain at all in both tents.. I will say that in the wind in open areas the GG doesn’t do as well as I’d like but its never failed on me. The nylon tent material tends to give more in the wind… but its not been overly problematic.

@thomaspaschen77 16 күн бұрын

same here... some wiiiiiild nights on the pct... it almost got frostet with 10cm thick ice on it in the morning... but stood strong... lovin my GG

@justrusty Жыл бұрын

I use the Duplex because basically I can only afford one $600 tent and when I go hiking with my adult son, we can fit in it together yet it's not too heavy (~24 oz - I got the heavier "camouflage" Dynema material) to bring alone. Basically, similar to the Plex but bigger. Only uses 8 stakes too. And I modified it slightly with some loops on the floor that makes the bathtub floor a little more effective.

@trickofthetrail Жыл бұрын

Whilst I have no experience with the Solo, I do have the Duplex and it's an awesome tent. I took it backpacking in Croatia and for the most part it was amazing. However it did get totally annihilated in a thunderstorm. All my gear got soaked and muddy. Heavy wind is really not its bag! Love your videos dude! Keep up the good work. 👌

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for watching!

@kurtdanielson993 Жыл бұрын

Most light weight tents are going to have a problem like that. To get a tent to be fairly wind resistant you would need good stakes, nice ground, and beefy tent poles. Going to be a lot heavier.

@robjames2322 Жыл бұрын

Hey Kyle, now that you have the Zpacks Duplex, what would your preference be for multi-day solo hiking? The space of the Duplex or the lightness of the Plex Solo?

@thecocoleeno 3 ай бұрын

I had a seam sealing issue with my tent after a 4 week hike. GG did warranty replace the tent. I don’t have enough nights on the replacement to know if it might have similar issues. Overall I was really happy with the GG tent once I had some practice setting it up. One pro it is to put a stick prop under the front and back tie outs to give them a bit more lift.

@nicksam5518 Жыл бұрын

I picked up a Hexamid tarp last summer, and paired it w a sea to summit mosquito net.(6.1 & 2.9 0z) sub 10oz(zpack groundsheet is 3.2, tent spikes 4oz). I LOVE the weight and not having to deal w Zpacks rainbow zipper nonsense. I still find it a challenge to pitch this thing, but I really like net only option, when its cold, no net at all(every mountain or higher elevation.) Zpacks really makes great gear options- dynema, dynema, dynema.

@jeffreycarman2185 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@jenniferbarron2317 Жыл бұрын

Love my duplex. Has withstood some Hella wind and rain in the mountains of Colorado, and kept me and my stuff dry. I am 👁 the dan durston xmid pro....

@yasminesaboui5930 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the honest review. I used a kumo on the pct and had durability and fit issues (hip belt too big for women and shoulder straps too wide), gossamer gear deleted my review on their website 😂

@jimmac1953 Жыл бұрын

I have The One and it's a decent tent. I have had the tent thru a couple nights pf light rain without issues. But if you want to get rid on the ZPACK tent I'll take off your hands. I plane to buy the Plex Solo before a CT thru hike next summer.

@CalvertE98 Жыл бұрын

Dcf is actually worse for abrasion and better for wind. So you should really use a ground cloth of some type for the dcf bottom to make it last longer

@m34tba11 Жыл бұрын

Check out the Durston X-mid tents. Bomb Proof trekking pole tents that uh..are not shapedl ike the typical tent (some geometric principle that seems to hold up better in high winds and such).. Spent the night (well many nights, but this one in particular) in a 60+mph wind storm in Scotland this past year. That was 100+ nights out already with the tent. Plus the stargazer kit gives you some good star viewing for those nights you do not need the fly but it might be buggy.. Price and weight is about the same as the Gossamer Gear tent

@JosephMcCanne Жыл бұрын

Does the z-packs come with a warranty? Is the rip by the zipper something that they would fix?

@alexbuell9329 Жыл бұрын

Dude, are you at Alafia park in Florida? I'm super close. That's awesome! Also, why are you hiking in FL?!?

@1wolfgirl300 Жыл бұрын

A lot of people have ripping near the zippers of their Z-Packs because of over-tensioning the tent. The mesh is the most fragile part of a tent so I can see where it would be easy to rip it.

@Stryf3 Жыл бұрын

Good break down of everything! However the GG The One is Sil-Nylon/PU not Sil-Poly. Sil-Poly does not sag nearly as bad as Sil-Nylon. Did you run into any issues getting either tent set up in more confining camp spots on the thru-hike?

@Balue7 Жыл бұрын

GG The One is Sil-Nylon not Sil-Poly, which is honestly a big difference. Sil-Poly is the same as DCF in that it does not absorb water and will not sag. Poly is heavier than Nylon or DCF. Have personally written off nylon from a dangerous situation I experienced on the PCT. Ran into a situation where we had wet snow fall overnight, where the tent started to sag heavily from being soaked and the weight of the slush. Should have been able to retention the tent, but in my case the ridgelines were completely taut. I assume this had something to do with the stitching material in the tent I was using, not being able to stretch as it began to sag. Rather than risk buying a nylon tent and having to test if this will happen again, I just won't use nylon. Either pay extra for the DCF or accept the weight penalty of Poly.

@Jinxlikestohike Жыл бұрын

I use the one and love it but I can agree with you on weather. If you set it up and the wind changed and starts hitting that flat wall it feels like the tent is gonna fall over.

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

It's a little sketch for sure

@pungo147 Жыл бұрын

I used the Zpacks Duplex on my 2021 thru-hike. It's an outstanding tent and I thoroughly enjoyed using it. I'm switching to the Durston Xmid Pro2 for my 2023 thru-hike. It has an offset floor design that makes it more structurally sound in strong winds. The Duplex is great but using it in 40+ mph winds is nerve-wracking!

@Havanorange Жыл бұрын

Should people be camping in tents in 40+ mph wind? I learn something new every day.

@pungo147 Жыл бұрын

@@Havanorange Camping and thru hiking are two different things. When you're thru hiking you don't always have a choice.

@SteffenThomsen Жыл бұрын

I have heard that Dixie can smell a DCF-tent from 5 miles away.

@zakafx Жыл бұрын

maybe she is allergic to DCF and doesnt know

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

lmao what

@modestadventurers Жыл бұрын

@@KyleHatesHikingTrue story.

@modestadventurers Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. It’s a skill that’s bestowed on you when you complete the entire PCT 😋

@SteffenThomsen Жыл бұрын

@@zakafx I think that she is allergic to all her gear that are not DCF.

@kiizutsuita Жыл бұрын

Link to your sunglasses in this video? Thanks!

@rld32724 Жыл бұрын

A few videos ago you mentioned that you will switch to another trekking pole from Cascade Mt Tech since you could not replace the tips. Andrew Skurka has a long time review of these trekking poles on his web site, including how to change the tips.

@CastawayHikes Жыл бұрын

Do you not hate the moon shaped door of Zpacks tents? That and the storm flaps being connected only by a toggle and loop drove me nuts

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

Yeah honestly both of those things are kind of annoyign

@coltonsheets1414 Жыл бұрын

I had the same problem with a gossamer Gear 2 leaking along the seams

@bumblebeehikes Жыл бұрын

I'm really curious since both of these were so close in almost ever category except the weight and weather resistance what your opinion would have been if you had a more true direct comparison if the GG One was the DCF version? Do you think that there would have been a clear winner then? And would it have been the GG One or not?

@Clarissa-it5zf Жыл бұрын

The GG DCF tent still has the nylon bathtub floor which is the worst part about the GG tents. The floor soaks up water and holds it in so easy

@rya7642 2 ай бұрын

So different colors, different strengths. What color has best strength?

@EspenFrafalne 2 ай бұрын

Once you go with Dyneema, its hard to even consider going back to other materials. I really like the packability of nylon though. Being able to carry a smaller backpack saves weight too, so im often just as focused on packsize as weight.

@billprice6458 Жыл бұрын

I'll take the double rainbow li over either. Durston xmid pro better than both too imo. We all know what opinions are worth though. Good video

@mercedesaponte6201 Жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on the SMD Lunar Solo? I decided to get one at $50 off on Moosejaw. I have a Duplex as well but sometimes like the smaller footprint of a single w/ room for gear.

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

I've never used it! Hope you like it though!

@_68niou1 Жыл бұрын

Is the GG sil-poly or is it sil-nylon?

@zakafx Жыл бұрын

i followed your thru hike along with the other guys, fkn wicked trip. just before you left, i was also contemplating on getting the GG "the one" as an upgrade to the lanshan 1pro. after seeing you post about the tent failure, im glad that i stuck with the lanshan, because i would of been pissed af that i spent nearly double the price of the lanshan for it to fail similarly to how it did for you. have stuck with lanshans and they have yet to fail, even in -27C. kinda questioned the design of the GG "the one" with the rear of the tent being made how it is, kinda weird and looks like water would get in some way.

@djw8504 Жыл бұрын

I have the Lanshan 1 Pro and I’m stressed abt doing the seam sealer! Lol!

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

honestly the design was fine... it was more the seam seal issue and the material that was the issue for me

@zakafx Жыл бұрын

@@djw8504 its super easy, the only way you will screw it up is if you are careless and messy. use the syringe it comes with, take your time. it will come out fine.

@freecitizen7372 Жыл бұрын

I have yet to find a tent that beats Big Agnes’ Tiger Wall UL1.

@davelipsiea1553 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your videos! Can you give me a contact link for your buddy Brandon from the PCT. If I remember correctly, he was from Houston (so am I) and I wanted to ask him some questions about my '23 PCT attempt. Thanks in advance.

@iamjoshkoop Жыл бұрын

GG end of life’s the DCF versions

@jeffreycarman2185 6 ай бұрын

Sucks that the GG tent wasn’t seam sealed. Not trying to poop on dyneema, but the lack of stretch in DCF is a liability in that it will fail over time. Silnylon does stretch a bit, but it’s matter of personal preference and specifics of the pitching job on the night of rain, whether this is a problem (assuming the seams are correctly waterproofed).

@felixantoinetremblay Жыл бұрын

The Plex Solo is a fair weather tent. Water will get in from the back where there is no elastic cord keeping the tub higher than the wall. As soon as you put gear down in this area, it will sag and water will pool there. Moreover, the guy line is so short on the front side that it runs almost verticaly, which offers no wind resistance whatsoever. I've had this tent collapse in three separate occasions and had to replace this guy line with a longer one. It is ridiculous that such simple issues on haven't been corrected before hitting the market. This is supposed to be a "premium" tent.

@deerless999 Жыл бұрын

What if anything would change if you compared to the DCF “ the one”…. Just curious

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

I'd be curious too!

@ursdubel3585 6 ай бұрын

Dyneema is superior material for tents, if you punch a hole in Dyneema you just simply patch it up and in 5 minutes your tent is ready for the night or your next adventure. You can't do that with Silpoly or Nylon.. another big pro is you can completly soak up the condensed or rain water with a towel if you have to.

@obxchas Жыл бұрын

I still have never used hiking poles or a hiking pole tent in my backpacking. Thus, I'm curious. What the heck do y'all do if you snap your hiking poles during a hike! How do you set up your tent?

@Joeb4iley Жыл бұрын

Find a suitable branch 👍 any pole around the correct length will do.

@johnhaywood9030 Жыл бұрын

Or you can tie one end up to a tree, but you also have to rig up vestibule tie outs. You will have the same issue with free standing tents if the poles break.

@Ryan-yi5ro Жыл бұрын

Easier to use a branch for trekking pole tent then trying to fix a broken tent pole in a free standing tent.

@omglolwots Жыл бұрын

I used The One on the entire PCT last year, but there's no way in hell I'd take that thing on the AT. I loved that tent, but I wouldn't want to take it out in an area with a lot of rain.

@yorkiemeetsworld2224 Жыл бұрын

Now you need an x-mid pro.

@syberphish Жыл бұрын

Kinda surprised you didn't mention the size of my mom's vestibule...

@CanCanHikes Жыл бұрын

I’ve enjoyed The One for a couple years now. No tent is perfect. The One works for me

@CanCanHikes Жыл бұрын

Also, I recommend always carrying a light ground cloth because-when in a shelter-it doubles as a little something extra between a sleeping pad and shelter floor.

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

You're right, no tent is perfect! I'm glad it's worked for you Shannon

@jeffreycarman2185 6 ай бұрын

Clearly the z-pack tent is a superior tent. The ability of DCF to provide a more consistently tighter pitch, with less sag and stretch inherent to silnylon, will make for less condensation.

@timlois Жыл бұрын

If I was trying to save money and passed on the Zpacks, I would just get a 3FUL Lanshan Pro for half the price of the GG.

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

good tip! never used that tent

@Andy-Mesa Жыл бұрын

DCF is not stronger than nylon. Nylon is more abrasion and puncture resistant. This is why the X-Mid Pro (a DCF tent) uses nylon for its floor. If you look at a recent thread on /r/Ultralight where a bunch of tents suffered a hail storm in Alaska, all the DCF tents failed and none of the nylon tents did. Nylon also packs much tighter than DCF, because you can stuff nylon but have to gently roll DCF. DCF has a lot of impressive qualities but durability is *not* one of them.

@jpanosky Жыл бұрын

Not going to comment on whether DCF or nylon is stronger, but I will say that I was caught in a nylon dome tent during a hailstorm with literally tennis-ball-sized hail, and the tent did astoundingly well. For the most part the tent simply deformed and sprang back, allowing the giant hailstones to bounce right off. I'm not saying people should base their purchasing decisions on the likelihood of a hailstorm like this, but it's another point in the data.

@mikemathlete Жыл бұрын

Super informative review, subbed… to your mom

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

😂

@felixantoinetremblay Жыл бұрын

The "rainbow" door on the Plex Solo is the worst. It clearly has been made by someone who has never heard of bugs, since you can't get a tight opening as you would with a regular door. This means you can't cook in the vestibule or get things in and out without dozens of bugs getting in. I likely will have to get the front mesh replaced to correct this issue, which is insane on a 600 USD tent.

@_68niou1 Жыл бұрын

Miniature camper: this tent has PLENTY of space. Me: well duh, you're a mini.

@higler. 18 күн бұрын

8:28 😂

@smily2208 Жыл бұрын

My biggest issue with all tents is that I have size 13 foot which for my understanding the z pack is unusable for me

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

you know what they say about big feet

@darrinmcgann Жыл бұрын

@@KyleHatesHiking Big Shoes 👞!

@smily2208 Жыл бұрын

And socks

@johnotte8097 Жыл бұрын

HOWEVER X100 😉

@shawnr6117 Жыл бұрын

Maybe you can convince GG to send you a DCF version of the one so you can do a direct comparison

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

i don't think they will after this video haha

@shawnr6117 Жыл бұрын

@@KyleHatesHiking who knows, might be their chance at redemption. An apples to apples kinda thing.

@davidprovost3537 9 ай бұрын

Don't ask me why it works, but if you stake out the floor of the One, you stay dry. Just like Kyle's...

@SJones-hk4tw 7 ай бұрын

Dude that one tent is made of sil nylon, not sil poly. Sil poly does not sag nearly as much like sil nylon.

@brycetheshredder Жыл бұрын

The gossamer gear “the one” is not sil-poly. Its 10d nylon with a sil/pu coating. If it was sil-poly you wouldn’t get that sag when it gets wet as sil-poly doesn’t hold on to nearly as much water as nylon.

@20Hikecdt23 Жыл бұрын

Wow. My bivi is heavier than these new type tents(16 oz).

@PaulsWanderings Жыл бұрын

You need to put a warning on these videos: Warning: eating or drinking while watching this video may cause choking or spitting of food or drink.

@brentgraves8165 Жыл бұрын

Id rather carry a brick around than The One shoutout to my plex solo i love you more than my first born child.

@alexhauser332 Жыл бұрын

Hiked the CT with GG The Two. It sucked.. had the same issues as you. Would not recommend 👎

@dustyoldhat Жыл бұрын

X-Mid 1P is the best tent

@dustyoldhat Жыл бұрын

I've had it on the PCT this year. Never once was I wet. Never once did I worry about it in the wind. Never once did I lack for space. Heavier than both of these tents by over 300g, but I simply do not care. Weight worth carrying for the best shelter on the market. Now, whenever the 1P "Pro" version comes out (DCF) - you bet your arse I'll be getting one and by my estimation it will be comparable in weight to these tents.

@modestadventurers Жыл бұрын

Will these tents help my crypto investments ?

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

absolutely not

@Metalalbumreviewers Жыл бұрын

I click for the content, I stay for the mom jokes.

@kyle_ogrady Жыл бұрын

first

@CastawayHikes Жыл бұрын

Commenting on your own video doesn't count 😆

@freeheel748 Жыл бұрын

BULLSHIT !

@petermarshall582 Жыл бұрын

I don't want to be wet. I would pay the money

@MeOutside Жыл бұрын

You said “however” way too many times in this one.

@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын

same with 'both'

@dustyoldhat Жыл бұрын

@@KyleHatesHiking same with tents

@pdxraves Жыл бұрын

The fact that gossamer gear wants you to pay for seam sealing is insane. They’re giving you a tent that doesn’t work properly yet.

@teagueoconnell7530 Жыл бұрын

Like the channel and the videos, but the ridiculous confused-face you put on the opening of some videos is THE most annoying thing KZfaqrs do. Make good content, not stupid faces.

@georgemaxwell3997 Жыл бұрын

Both are CRAP, actually, for a serious hiker.

@Takeouthetrash727 Жыл бұрын

People donate so many tent to us homeless, and then that same night the police take them from us. And the next day a brand new tent is handed to me. And these are expensive people tents.