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Bailing out isn't a failure, never put vanity before safety anywhere you camp, wrong decisions can cost lives. You made the right decision Bro, glad you got off the mountain safely, thanks for posting.

Good to see you got back safe.

So long as you are safe that's all that matters. Love your videos keep them coming but stay safe

Mate, when you know, you know! Always good to trust your instincts. There’s a ton of cliches that you can use here but they’re true - walk away, come back another day. Glad you made it back down safely! 🤘🏻

Just watched this on the TV and had to come on the computer to comment. Just wanted to say thank you for uploading this video. The the massive amount of KZfaq campers these days, it's very easy for people to think that anyone can just buy a cheap tent and go anywhere. They make it look very easy and like nothing can go wrong. I think it's important to show the not so fun side of wild camping and that sometimes you just have to accept it, call it, and try again a different day. As you said, the mountains aren't going anywhere. Great video as usual, I'm sure your channel is going to blow up soon, keep at it. Edit to add: that's not me criticising the other youtubers, just saying they can be somewhat misleading to people who don't hike often.

Had an issue with my scarp 1 over Xmas, really strong winds destroyed it, anyway gone to hilleberg now, no doubt what most would suggest, I now have the nallo2. A really good tent is the fjallraven abisko 1 or 2, the 2 is very roomy, about same weight as the nallo2 but I couldn't get one when I wanted one. You made right decision to bail no doubt whatsoever, my tent failed at 2am I couldn't go anywhere, luckily I had my sleeping bag in bivvy bag so got my border collie in with me and stayed flat to ground till first light. Rule number 1 don't panic, I stayed put as it was safest option, you got off mountain as that was safest option. We live to fight another day. Like your stuff, keep going and keep safe pal

I'm sure glad you made it out okay. Like you said, 'live and learn',, we all been there. 👍

Good to see you survived, very sensible decision to get out of there.🙏👍

Personally I think it's important to show the fails aswell as the good camps people learn more from seeing those.you did right taking your time and getting off safe.remember the mountains will always be there for another camp on another day.but I always say it's worth spending money on good gear for winter gear your life depends on it.i use the kuiu storm star for winter it's not cheap but it's a great 4 season tent.

When your planning a route you should allow an extra minute for every 10 metres of altitude gained. And I carry emergency repair items like tenacious tape and even a needle and cotton don't think it would of helped you on this occasion but definitely worth a carry for a few grams. Least your good chalk it up as experience right decision.

Brilliant video! Helps us all with assessing safety issues. Keep up the good work!

Great video glad ya safe but please do the video on the thicker pole don't feel to bad just watched a video wiv a hillerburg and a scarp fail against a OEX bobcat have a look and feel better 👍👍

Cheers for sharing bud. Fellow Braford lad. I watched another video of the fjallraven abisko and that things bomb proof by the look of the conditions it took a right hammering. Maybe worth a look

That's a shame, but you did the right thing coming off the fell... I have that tent, but I also spent silly money on a Hilleberg Akto which will now be my main tent, not an affordable tent for many, and my wife was not happy, lol... But, it gives me 100% confidence as a complete amateur that I will be safe in anything the British weather can throw at me... Nice to hear your honest assessment of what happened...

I just purchased a cloud peak 2 and I put it up last weekend. I see the zippers as a weak point. Your video has confirmed my concerns. I will be selling the tent. Thanks for sharing your adventure!

Love the honesty of the journeys you take good and bad in this, recently discovered your channel but really enjoy it bud! Keep up the good work!

Great video never been in this situation before, definitely the right decision made there,don't beat ur self up over the tent choice it can happen with any shelter 🤙

a refreshingly different outdoor video - nice one.

Right decision there Liam, shit happens m8, but when it does, you got to be logical and throw feelings to the wind. Great lesson for us all. Bonus is now it gave you a good reason to get the Hilleberg Soulo Black Label!

Good video. I have done something similar without a tent in similar conditions. Just a water resistant sleeping bag. 6 miles of hike out at midnight. Was not easy. I always bring Soulo BL now.

Just wondering here, have you heard or ever run into 'Kent Survival' and 'Simon in the Bloke' at any time ? Same country but I believe they don't wander in your areas.

Well what an adventure! Very lucky you came down safe. Lesson learned. You didnt only took an unsuitable tent for this conditions but you pitch your tent late before dusk. You planned your trip for 3 days and you didnt plan to pitch you re tent as soon as you could when you arrived on the spot. Always the first thing you should do is to pitch your tent and if anything failed you have time to return back in daytime.

We had a zip failure on a new tent, not cheap either. As a storm was raging I got my emergency sewing kit out, then put seam sealer all down it and it survived the rest of our trip. The company took it back to repaired but delivered us a brand new replacement. I have now reinforced where the zips tend to fail so here's hoping. Not had chance to test it out yet. You sure did the right thing and slowly descended. Last yr up mam tor, we saw a tent strewn over the mountainside, as if someone had trouble and just lazily left it there and went home.

There's a hack to fixing zips with pliers (I have a mini multi-tool with pliers) and also zip repair kits you can get. Not ideal in the dark in winter though, especially when windy.

Oh and I just got the Durston x mid. Massively impressed with it.

That's what happens when you get a cheap tent. No failures with any of my Hillebergs which I started using 30 years ago after a tent collapsed in a storm. Not worth risking your life with a tent failure as you said, to save money. You did well, een others panic when things go wrong instead of being calmly methodicaly working out a plan.

Bro, you did the right thing. The zip has been an issue on the Cloud Peak and like you said, it could have happened anywhere... The wind on summits is ruthless. Hillebergs are getting bent poles, Scarp Tents are having guy lines rip entire flys apart!!! Your safe, that's the main thing. I wouldn't Summit camp in winds, always find a sheltered spot lower down. With that said, good on you for making a decision and executing it, no point risking yourself for a video. 👍👍👍

I am glad you made the right decision. A hilleberg Allak 2 is probably the best but I have no experience on the mountains. someone asked me about camping on the mountains. I said no, my tents will be destroyed at that altitude. plus even hiking I don't want to do that solo (lack of experience) because the weather will change. I was in Dartmoor in Dec at a carpark near Cox Tor. I got out the car for 1 minute and that cold wind with force dropped my body temperature down rapidly. Then I knew these conditions are not for me. especially climbing up and down these condtions. I can imagine the focus you had to get down safe. plus adrenaline. shock. your body is in survival mode. As you said the mountains are not going anywhere. It is important you published this video. proof of this tent isn't up to extreeme conditions and it could be life threatening and probably life ending due to exposure. I am so glad you are safe and well. take care buddy and thankyou. God bless.

Well done for showing the video. Totally did the right thing, it's important to know when to knock it on the head. We get to see you again. 😊

Did right thing , always worth planning evacuation route for every camp ,even just to pace out first 100m of exit to memory stamp if possible, even if same way you came, and take a compass bearing in the tent for direction . You took some beautiful shots of the valley ,what a beautiful place !

Green gable is a very windy place as you've found out. Your better off staying off the summits in winter. Well done for getting off safely...

Crazy taking a cloud peak up there. Failed to prepare there mate 🤦‍♂️

First time I've watched you. What a shame. It was obvious how fed up you were. All your effort and plans ruined.but you were able to stay positive and still looking forward to future adventures. Well done and thanks for the video. Regards John Mac

Good call to get off that hill, once had a tent blown flat at styhead tarn but its cheapness saved it and the pole spread out on the floor without damage but the trust had gone , tents are like relationships when the trusts gone its over , knowing when to bail is what seperates experiences from catastrophes, i also own a cloud peak 2 so I'm going to watch the video of your previous trip

You did exactly the right thing, and I admire your honesty. Still a good video despite everything that went wrong.

I'm not 1st to comment but I'm always here showing support for a brilliant channel 👍see you on the next adventure pal 🙏

Ah man, I can't imagine how tricky that would have been descending in that weather in the dark together with being miffed off and then that drive home 😫 Well done for getting back safely. The weather here in the Lakes is so unpredictable and I imagine it would have only got worse had you stayed up there, so that zip breaking might have actually been a blessing in disguise!

I just upgraded my 30+ year old 1 person mountain hardware,great wee tent.for a Nortent Vern 2.as I now go out with my big muckle black Labrador Yelo.he done a couple of pirouette’s in the tent and plonked himself down,leaving me squashed up against the side 😂.hopefully the Nortent Vern 2 will stand me in as good stead as the mountain hardware did.👍

Always Safety first, good decision 💯💯💯😎

You did the right thing. Good thing you weren't 3 days from the car. But, yea, you know that. Its good you posted this because it serves as a reminder to others. Consider one of the Hilleberg four season tents. They aren't cheap. But in my experience they are pretty much fool proof.

Lucky bastard getting off safely. Good choice made

You overcame the mishaps of adventure safely and learnt more than if it had not happened. Mountain weather forecasts are becoming increasingly unreliable!

Safety first bro, glad you’re alright.

The MT 900 one man trekking tent from Decathlon is tested in wind tunnels up to 60 kilometers an hour winds on a rotating platform. And only £150 quid if your on a budget. I've never tested mine personally in those conditions . And they only weigh 1.3kg

Knowing when to bail is an important skill. You did the right thing. No fun in ending up a popsicle trying to stick to a plan that's no longer feasible.

Shame about the zip, had issues with them myself on my Vango, I always look for proper YKK zippers and sturdy storm flaps that don't get caught. Probably worth getting it repaired and keeping it as a summer tent, it does perform well enough in peaceful conditions. Great Gable, Green Gable are sandwiched between Windy gap, and it has it's name for a reason ha, one of the windiest places in the lake district for sure.

Have a Cloud Peak myself.. On taking a closer look when first pitched, could noticed how poorly designed the zips to the inner were.. Noticed how there are gaps where the zips meet. Hardly Midge proof when comes to seeking protection from the elements. They'd find their way through into the tent no trouble.

Awww i know this is disappointing and you can tell how disappointed you were but you did the right thing and some things happen for a reason you now have nan opportunity to get a much better tent for the conditions and future adventures and now you can plan and enjoy it again soon as I know it helps you so much

Glad you got down the mountain safely

Thanks

I did a video testing a naturehike tent in high winds on the summit to show its not a 4 season tent - so regarding your damaged tent - naturehike were extremly helpful for me by replacing bent poles, might be worth dropping them a message!

Had to turn back also one time ago, can be mild down below but up top can be tornado. they didn't name it 'Windy gap' for nothing.!

Some good decisions there bud. We all make mistakes. Learn from it and move on. It’s all experience in your armoury for the future. Well done, man👍. ATB - Dave

I got rid of mine after one camp, the zips were a nightmare snagged every time I opened. Nearly pissed myself when I was trying to get out in the night, snagged with the top open ended up stood up through the hole trying not to piss on the tent

Good video mate and interesting to get your feedback on what went wrong, good luck with your future camps. You have a new sub.

You did well mate, made a decision and stuck to it, for the money the CP2 is a brilliant tent but like you said its not a 4 season tent. Glad your safe buddy, don't let this slow you down, it's all experience.

Gutted for you about this brother!❤️ You definitely did the right thing, safety first, always. A bail is definitely not a fail! Just about to watch your new Green Gable vid🏔️

Fair play for posting the Cockups as well as the good trips. Quality is imperative in the wild winter winds. Have you watched Bushman & Blue? He does some real extreme camps in The Lakes. Hope the new tent give you many great camps. We can feel your disappointment coming through, but as you say; they’ll always be there. I try to get over from Harrogate every three weeks or so, even if only for a day so know your pain re the fuel cost 😖

Safety 1st my friend well done 👍

Still a good video.

Exactly the same happened to me with that tent. I managed to get it zipped back up though. never used it again though. Defo not a tent for summits. 👊🏼

Zips are awful on the the cloud peak, main reason I sold mine. To be fair I bust one on my Fjalraven as well. Shit happens, overkill but I always take a bivvy bag as well just to be on the safe side in winter. Fair play for getting down safely in the dark. Some steep bits coming down that Ghyll into the farm.

That was a mad one lad! Just subbed 👍🏻 much love from hudds ✌🏻

You did the right thing on bailing out. I Recommend the soulo. I’ve got the red label and it’s bombproof. I’ve got an Akto as well but don’t use it now I have the soulo.

Great video (just subscribed) I was brought up wild camping in the Lakes and my first tent being Vango Force ten! i learnt a lot of lessons as a teenager. Now (54 yrs old) I have many tents My Terranova Quasar is my go to for bad weather bomb proof and totally trust it. sod the weight, it wont break! then ill piss about with my Banshee (which i do love ) great decisions made and a great after 'incident' chat great job :)

Hey fella. Only just started watching your videos/subscribed. The lakes is my favourite place too for wild camping. Glad to see you made it down safely & you def made the right choice to abandon considering. I also owe the cloud peak 2 & used it a lot until about a year ago. The little niggles annoyed me too. You probably (if money is not an issue) will be wanting a Soulo? Black Label? As these are (in my eyes) the best ‘weather tolerant’ mountain tent available. However, if you are looking at something cheaper, I bought the 4 season Terra Nova Voyager as an upgrade to the CP2. It retails around £600. But I picked it up at a ridiculously cheaper price when on offer & can honestly say it has been amazing to date, it’s had some punishment over the past year, including 50mph winds on Kinder. Keep up the wainwright bagging pal (I’m currently on 161) & keep these videos coming, I really enjoy watching them 👍

i would try the hilleberg soulo bl it's a beast! i absolutly love it!

Just watched your vid mate. Firstly great you are safe most important. I have the peak 2 had the zip go on me. It was more my fault but it’s defiantly a weakness in the design. I took mine to a tent repair place. Cost a bit but I have a soft spot for that tent. Look forward to seeing your new tent. Just sub you. Cheers Graham

I guess having the appropriate gear is important to cater for all eventualities. You never know what you're facing up there and winter makes it all the more hazardous. I've got a Cloud Peak 2 bit I'd use my Robens Starlight 2 which is a similar price but well know for being tested to withstand high winds.

Decent. Had a go. Keep it up, it's good stuff. What tent did you go for,?

Good call bro

Great viewing lad...new subscriber

How come 6k people have watched this video but less than 300 have liked it.what’s not to like good hike bit of drama on the tops gets of safely explains it come on guys give him a like.

Glad you got down safe mate. I have had to abandon a couple of camps, and its disheartening at the time, but got to be safe. Is that waterproof any good you had on?

Shame that mate! I was hoping to copy the thicker poles like you in hope it would stand up to the winds of the cheviots. Are you still planning on releasing the video on the new thicker poles?

Hi mate, you did right mate 👍. How about a vango 2man tent. It's called hydra I think? By the look of it, it can take it all. Wind rain, snow. I'm saveing up for one. Hope this helps mate 👍🇬🇧

Watch MCM Outdoors Destroyed. One 1000 £ tent destroyed by the wind, one damaged. Those guys had to leave the mountain in the dark too. Keep Your pecker up. Sh*t happens. I do know though that it can be absolutely frustrating.

Did you ever mend the tent ? I was thinking of getting one

Where did you get your eye glasses mate?

ive had 2 cloud peak 2 tents and the zip went on the outer on both tents, i gave up in the end, invested in a scarp 1 but ive since sold that as i purchased the terra nova pioneer 2, i cant recommend it highly enough if you want a good idea of a good piece of kit id jump on the pioneer 2, terra nova sometimes have an offer £399 with the footprint that covers the vestibule area as well, its a wicked tent, check out our vids, you see it feature in a couple of them, 4 season as well, good solid tent and its only 1.8kg

Yet another great video mate 👍 never look at this as a failure, because you still had a memorable time, you have learnt and you have taught us, and that makes it a big success 😊 cheers Liam, a real good bloke 👍😊😊🙏🙏

Seen a soulo and a scarp1 on here today fail so your not alone .

Could you have left the zip snagged and tried going in the other side?

Did you manage to fix zip, Liam? Ballsy but good decision to bail mate. No other option really. Also is you z mat from temu by any chance? Thats not a criticism btw, just seen a similar one on there

Nortent Vern 1 😁

Well done for keeping a cool head and getting off the mountain safe Liam. That was the right decision . Not sure if you are interested but i am selling an unused Hilleberg Jannu with a spare set of poles worth 200 quid so in all the shop price is approx 1,350 quid but i will take 900 for it. I only purchased it because i wanted a two person 4 season tent but it made sense to get rid of my bird and now i dont need it :) If you are interested let me know before i put it on eBay for a grand, i would rather give you first choice. No bother if you are not interested pal.

YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY GUTTED MATE. BUT A BAIL IS NOT A FAIL. DYING ON A MOUNTAIN THAT'S A FAIL.👍👍👍

What size did you get that OMM jacket in mate? I am 6ft and 13 and a bit stone

Have seen a few videos where the zip as failed on that tent still a good video well done getting back down safe lad 👍

Zips........... If it's not a YKK zip it ain't worth shit.

Have you contacted manufacturer ? Worth a try?. Test out their aftersales service..

Why take a cloud peak out in those conditions.

I was watching another camping vid last week, and a 2 big brand tents failed, both 4 season and a £50 quid oex was ok, no probs at all. So, the cloud peak 2 maybe budget, but if you are saying it's partly your fault.... What I'm saying is, just because it's a big brand and expensive, doesn't necessarily mean you won't experience the same or different probs..

It happened to me after only the 2nd time of using it, I was lucky and i just tore the black zip flap which I know I can use some tenacious tape on and it will be ok. The zips are a huge issue in my opinion, lesson learnt for both of us, I've actually not used it since, it did piss me off too. I really hope when you get your soulo you'll be pleased 🙏, I'm sure you will be buddy 👍 😊. I would love a Durstan x mid 2 solid. Though I'm saving for a bike atm and my terra nova pioneer 2 will suffice lol. Thanks for sharing and see you on your next adventure ✌️ 🤟 🤙

ya big silly sausage🌭🌭🌭

unlucky man.. third ch an vid in aday wi failed tent ..mcm s ploes gave out n iz matesone st8 up ripped wide open... bobcat survived go figure lol

That's one of the reasons I got rid of the cloud peak 2 and won't recommend it.

You did the right thing mate seems like you weren’t the only one with tent issues kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nr2md8WE1Za-hXU.html

I am often quite surprised how routinely so many UKers I see on different channels heading for their alpine camps (exposed well above tree line or set-ups on/near summits) equipping themselves with junk tents poorly suited for the mountains. Is it the case that lots of folks are just on too thin a budget? Are people buying into hype and false promise? Are gear selection priorities somehow misinformed, flawed, to impaired? Is good stuff too cost prohibitive and not readily available? Also, appears you had little to no contingency for a shelter failure. As stated... travel to and from is valuable time and involves whatever expenditure... why not protect the logistical investment by having suitable gear that has some build-quality reliability? Everybody can have the walk-out, bail-out scenario unfold no matter what gear or whatever environments/conditions. Good that you where decisive, conservative, and not overextended in an exposed environment turning the situation potentially more consequential. Endgame here hopefully is to: A.)Seriously upgrade to suitable and sustainable gear selections B.) Familiarize with new gear and how to make field expedient repair C.) Preparedness addressing backup gear D.) Some more contingency planning regarding camp and bivouac spots vs. full bail.