Sign me up!

Athlytic is why I ditched the whoop and stuck with my watch. That and the Strong app. They are just too useful especially in the gym. I don't have to touch the phone. I just wish the Apple Watch was a little more comfortable. Though maybe I just need to stop buy-in the heavy stainless steel models.

@@SteveBIRK eh I think they’re all the same comfort. You could buy the ceramic one and it might be lighter but the form factor is the same. I gotta check out STRONG though! Thanks for the Reco

@@BrandonTalbot Hello, for me Athlytic is an excellent application, it is more than WHOOP. I liked it so much that I'm waiting to see the Apple Watch 8 and buy it to use this app. In addition, one very important thing, the development team is constantly working to implement new functions, for example, one of the last updates was Training Effect like Garmin.

what's the free alternative?

Glad it could help!!!

I have the opposite issue I need a strong haptic alarm to wake up, the regular apple alarm doesn’t wake me up it’s a struggle😵‍💫😵‍💫

Glad it could help!

Awesome glad you found what works for you and thanks for watching!

Yup, whoop’s price point is just atrocious….

@@Damian_S_ 1 dollar a day is atrocious?

@@cristobalbalenciaga7295 yes

@@cristobalbalenciaga7295one dollar a day, keeps the doctor away…🎉

Glad you enjoyed it

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 thanks for the support Petee!

Hey hey! Yeah I am Really hoping non invasive CGM hits the series 8 this year

@@BrandonTalbot is that in discussion? That would be pretty awesome.

@@MatAllred yes and for the series 7 but that didn’t happen

Solid combo.

You’re welcome Amy!

Hey Omar! I have:) click on my profile Click videos and scroll down till you see my must have Apple Watch apps video

Yeah it’s a great app.

Nice! You’re on top of it Sherv! I found a clone of whoop too

Excited on the whoop clone!

I agree with you on Training Today, it’s what I use even though I have a WHOOP 4.0 on as well.

what is the clone of whoop ? thanks @@BrandonTalbot

@@DBnoFLEXhow does Athyltic + Training today compare to whoop? Do you have any other recommendations?

Me neither:)

I kept my watch. I get questions about the whoop all the time as I wear both, and I just say “If you took the fitness, sleep, and recovery tracking of the Apple Watch, dial it up to 11, and prune away all the other smart watch things on the Apple Watch, you get whoop.” At the end of the day, I still want a smart watch, so I still wear my smart watch. But Whoop gives actionable feedback unlike anything I’ve been able to get on AW thus far.

@@Blackbeard0791 I LOVE that explanation!

There's been a few you tubers that reviewed the accuracy of the whoop, oura ring and apple watch. Long story short, Apple watch is a lot more accurate. Even the sleep tracking is more accurate than whoop.

Well I’m thankful you still “watched”;)

Absolutely! StrongLifts for weightlifting and autosleep is the best app I’ve found for sleep. But heart analyzer is not bad for general metrics.

Theres one called HEVY- does the same thing but also gives you old measurements

You should try the train app. It tracks movements and reps automatically. It’s not perfect but it does a pretty good job and you can always change it on the watch or your phone

Yeah I have been pretty good with my “routine” when it comes to workflow. It’s lacking in the accuracy department because of the Apple hardware and it’s limitation in algorithm but I do like the app and all of the features it offers. Thankfully I don’t need an alarm but good to know it has one.

@@BrandonTalbot Apple has the most accurate sensors though lol. It might not be as detailed as the whoop but the actual accuracy is better

@@kalebanderson6564 yeah but it’s also not, because the algorithm is only taking a reading once every five min

@@BrandonTalbot yea that’s true and I’m prolly a little biased but does that really matter when you can’t even see your heart rate during a workout? Because for me I like my Apple Watch because I have this app that automatically tracks movements and counts reps and it’s nice to be able to do that and also check my hr without going on my phone. So if you can only check your hr on the whoop after your done with your workout does it really make a difference how often it’s taking a measurement? And btw the app is train if you want to try it, it’s not perfect but it gets the job done

@@kalebanderson6564 that’s for the app recommendation! Just to clarify you can see your Hr in real-time with whoop

I am definitely interested to know. Like how is it improved? If it’s more data points taken then that would be amazing, but if there’s no change to that, but just more activities added or something along those lines then it wouldn’t really have an effect.

Definitely, check out Eclipse Yourself app

Hey Miguel, yes the health app will show you all of your HR data if you’ve got an Apple Watch, but it doesn’t interpret that data and doesn’t help you to know what to do with it. Apps like Athlytic are valuable because they guide you.

Hey Dwayne! I did a follow up video:)

Baller!

Not yet but there will be

@@jc9371 maybe🤷🏽‍♂️ haven’t used it

Well Athlytic is kind of hamstrung because it has to rely on how often the hardware (the Apple Watch) takes readings, which isn’t a lot. Especially on the HRV side.

@@BrandonTalbot Apparently the Apple Watch takes HRV readings more often if you tell your phone that you have been diagnosed with Atrial Fibrillation. I haven’t done that yet.

@@staffnsnake Yes it can, that's what I've done on mine but it's still not a lot of readings.

I hear ya on the data it certainly can be overwhelming! Stoked you enjoyed the video:)

for sure nearly every fitness tracker will read heart rate related metrics - the Apple Watch doesn’t do it nearly at the same rate whoop does but it’s very accurate

Nice!!!! Great app combo there

It’s hands down the best option for Jiujitsu

the whoop 3.0 impact sleeve fits the apple watch. You need to turn on "unlock apple with iPhone" in settings. Start a workout out and then enter it in.

@@tomwebb10 that’s good to know: I am using it because of the peripheral heart action cardio that is involved in BJJ fluctuates heart rate more than other types of cardio which the Apple Watch because of its 12 readings per minute usually misses. The whoop will measure this because it can take far more measurements per min.

@@BrandonTalbot thank you both for the feedback!

@@BrandonTalbot I’m thinking about switching from whoop to Apple watch. For this reason do you know if there’s a way to continue to use the whoop sensor for HR tracking during BJJ without continuing the subscription?

As long as it meets the watch iOS requirements it definitely should

I need to hop on with android so I can find some good options for you!

I’d love to, they’re just price prohibitive but I know a lot of people love them Including my wife

Have a Garmin Fenix 6 but the HR monitor just does not compare to the Apple Watch. AW has the most accurate Hr for optical on the market. So important. Garmin really struggles with weight lifting and HITT.

@@Bjustis2222 I waited specifically for the Fenix 7 to get the new Hr sensor. Comparatively the Apple Watch seems to be the better option for someone who wants a streamlined and minimalistic view of their workouts while the Garmin’s provide a much more in depth breakdown.

@@dipatch945 eh maybe for running but for weightlifting the Apple Watch is really nice because of the app selection. I have this one app that automatically tracks the workout I’m doing so I can track my progress

Bought a garmin fenix 7 returned after a week , sorry but the HR monitor is just pure trash 🗑

Hey friend that’s awesome I hope you love it! You can also get the bicep bed in accomplish the same thing :-) and that will fit you

@@BrandonTalbot thanks I'll have to look into the bicep band and probably a extra battery so I have less downtime like I have with my garmin watch when it needs to be charged...

@@justplanefred let me know how it works for you!

@@justplanefred you won't need the extra battery pack! The whoop lasts ~4 days per charge, and the battery pack charges in like 30 minutes. Only time you'll need a second battery pack is if you lose it.

How did the whoop work out for you so far? Are you satisfied with it?

It’s a great app!

@@BrandonTalbot Yeah, only when it works. It’s not consistent all the time. It’s a shame that Apple Watch doesn’t have a recovery score built-in specifically now that the Ultra exists.

@@pinkvpn agreed.

Yeah that’s the main reason I bought it

Yeah I like having both.

no the whoop is much smaller

Well I think two things make whoop more accurate, whoop has the distinct advantage of its algorithm calibrating to you the individual, and second the sheer amount of data the whoop can take in a day compared to the Apple Watch and I say the watch because analytic can is being hamstrung by the watch only measuring 12per min during exercise and once every 5 minutes when at rest.

Yep whoop steam rolls anything … the price sucks but unfortunately you pay the price for the technology.

Yup I hear ya, I’m trying to minimize my “Stuff” as well.

No unfortunately.

You’ve got a lot goin on hahaha:) thanks for Watching!

I do agree that you should factor in that whoop doesn’t charge for hardware but the Apple Watch has so many other features making it worth the hardware cost.

David that’s a great question, unfortunately I’m not on the android platform so I’m not sure. But I should get another phone so I can be better versed on the android side

Right on! Glad you found something you love

That I don’t know, but I don’t see why not. Does the SE lack the sensory array the non SE does?

Just checked apples site. The SE doesn’t do ECG or blood oxygen.

@@rymo1314 I’d say reach out to them on IG they’re very present there and ask him, cause it’s a great question

To be honest at £369 for a series 7 I think I’ll go with that. Whoop was winning for me but I really didn’t like the idea of still paying such a high(ish) monthly subscription after the initial 2 year subscription. Watching this video with your review of Athlytic has totally sold me on the apple watch with the pro version of Athlytic. I doesn’t seem like there’s much between both and it that’s the case then Athlytic is the clear winner for me.

*if that’s the case.

I have, but when I tried it, there was a lot to be desired, but that was quite some time ago

Right on. My friend said they switched to a paid version and made quite a few upgrades. Hoping to come across a few others for their take.

@@jordanvance1731 Nice! I'll have to circle back around to it.

Yeah I wish they’d integrate that

Noted!

I’m not sure if it was the latest Watch OS update, but you can in the native workout app

@@BrandonTalbot sorry, what i meant was on the iphone

Yeah there’s a lot of differences going on. HRV isn’t the only stat that contributes to recovery so remember that, and each company has their own algorithm in accessing recovery. But RHR, HRV, the output from the day before, neurological stress, sleep, sleep stage amounts, they all contribute to recovery. Apple Watch takes readings once every five minutes unless during a workout - it’s around 12x per min. You can see all this data in the health app. For HRV the Apple Watch records less than that. Only 8x in 24 hrs(I’m using my records) & If I remember correctly they take the lowest number for HRV. Now you can turn on afib detection and improve the number of times HRV is recorded. I haven’t turned it on yet though. I will. For the whoop they are taking metrics 1000x per minute of everything. They use all the data, and in a roundabout way the info from the journal. They average out the HRV readings from a certain stage of sleep that research has shown the most reliable and relatable way of pulling HRV. What I have seen is that the Whoop is the closest to how I actually feel with recovery. Apple Watch has better sensors, more accurate sensors but perhaps the algorithm running them, and how the data is interpreted is not as accurate as whoops real world application and interpretation of their data.

Sounds cool but I’m not going to rely on a camera for that time of diagnostic

@@BrandonTalbot That was my first thought too, but it’s scientifically validated. Also they work with professional teams and athletes!

@@BrandonTalbot And you can also use the data from the Apple Watch instead, if you want.

There’s a way you can get it for free actually! Check out my 14 features that make whoop worth it to find out how

I’d assume the percentage of money Apple Takes, but yeah I’ve been asking them for years now to make one

It does not, not yet anyway

The sensor for the new Apple Watch series 8 and Ultra are supposedly the most accurate

I don’t, I wear the whoop.

@@BrandonTalbot noice

Is that an app?

@@BrandonTalbot yeah, it’s an iPhone app and I think it’s pretty cool.

@@DBnoFLEX I’ll check it out!!!

That and a few other reasons

The optical HR sensor is way, way, way more accurate in the Apple Watch than the Whoop 4.0, in fact it is the most accurate wrist based optical sensor on the entire market and not by a small margin. However it only samples constantly during workouts and then outside workouts only checks you every 5-15 minutes vs whoop which is always measuring you. Whoop is also accurate during these restful times so Apple’s advantage is mainly limited to workouts in particular those where Whoop is really poor such as weight lifting etc. Apple also gives you all the same data as whoop like HRV, respiration rate etc. but does very little to interpret it unlike the whoop app which gives you the info in a more actionable way. That’s what the video is about… leveraging 3rd party apps willing to give you actionable data with the apple watch’s superior hardware. I still like Whoop but it has very real issues with accuracy and if it isn’t accurate then all it’s recommendations may be off. Apple Watch is incredibly accurate but doesn’t really give you recommendations.

I’m sorry this has been your experience but it’s also an Atypical experience.

The apple watch is the best heart rate and o2 saturation tracker of all tho

Well it does and it doesn’t - the sensors are reported to be “the best” but the watch’s algorithm is what hinders it. Because it’s a smart watch and it’s got a screen, apps, and a million other functions they couldn’t allocate enough power to make use of the sensors. So it only takes one reading every five minutes, or 12pr min when running a workout, that pales in comparison to whoops 1000pr min.

@@BrandonTalbot yes true youre right about the algorith but there’s a guy on youtube who did a scientific study and he used the polar h10 chest strap wich is one of the most accurate device to mesure the heart rate and the apple watch 6,7 and se was better than whoop and 50 other smart device but somehow when he did the study on the sleep test accuracy it the apple watch perform very poorly so how knows 🤷🏼‍♂️ i dont think there is a device that perform well in all categories

Did you watch the video?

Yeah Whoop wants it to be a very focused no distraction tool

Agree to disagree haha

@@BrandonTalbot Great video by the way. I'm trying out the athletic app, seems to be working pretty good so far.

@@BonanzaPilot Yeah Athlytic is pretty darn solid and thanks!

Hahaha no. Pillow doesn’t even know I exist

Not perfectly no, but they've been measured around 80% of PSG

Not for me, but it is a way for some to say goodbye to Whoop

@@BrandonTalbot ya i grabbed those apps thanks dude

@@JRClubbIII for sure! I’ve found a few more I’ll share

I agree it’s a pain point. Apple is powering much much more than Garmin that’s why you don’t get the battery life like a Garmin.

@@BrandonTalbot yep but Garmin was 6 days and now 30 and also solar options. In reality I think most people charge their watches at nighttime so how can they get sleep data. I’ve two Apple Watches and one Garmin. The Garmin data is way more accurate than the Apple data on a watch rotation basis hence having two of them. Thanks 🙏

Yeah I get that, but it's not a 2000 nit screen running millions of computations a second... it's just different. It would be awesome if Apple added solar, but I doubt it's gonna happen. And the Ultra has much better battery life so there's no longer need to charge at night you can get 36hrs solid of battery unless you're doing an ultra that day.

It’s not for everybody, personally I love it

@@BrandonTalbot you love the UI and UX of the app? funny guy. Triple menus, hidden stuff, invisible buttons... yea, much to love

@@First.Last.99 holy shit yes someone has a different opinion than you. Here’s why I like it, because everything I NEED to know is on the first page that opens. I don’t dive into all the super deep stuff but every once in a great while.

@@BrandonTalbot cool, I'm looking at most important things one good brand as WHOOP should solve in their app ASAP to be a better successes. Having such a bad UX and UI and a steep and unnecessary learning curve is not acceptable on their level. And whoever knows apps, UI and UX knows their team who created this experience is not a good team. There is no question about it. I respect ur amateur opinion and I'm glad ur happy with UX in the app. Would never put that on my 2+ million users, specially not after 12 years in the field.

@@First.Last.99 yes I’m not an expert at UX but I also for this job an exposed to a LOT of different apps, and communicate extensively with my community on these products. And the app isn’t something they complain about.

Dead panel?

@@BrandonTalbot Weren’t you one of the people with the broken bluetooth module in the P60x?

@@ScottBalkum Oh dude I totally spaced that conversation but yes I am I’ll shoot you an email is it on your Instagram or KZfaq page?

@@BrandonTalbot on the bottom of my video descriptions

@@ScottBalkum Perfect thank you Scott!

So demandy

Oh that’s awesome! Thanks Tom! I’m doing a follow up video and this will be really helpful