May 16th I believe

Not like the Saka Bayern one. Unless your talking in general terms of it being manufactured by the attacker. What Saka had to do to manufacture it was considerably more and visibly awkward looking (spotted by the ref due to his vantage point); it was unnatural. What Havertz had to do was was leave his trailing leg on the ground within his stride to make contact with the goalies outstretched leg, (unnatural but not as visible from the refs vantage point and also without a replay) It all comes down to the rules how VAR is implemented and what people want. Do they want a far play game or a cheating game and acting speaking to gain unfair advantage, or a game of gladiators playing competitively but fairly and safely. If you want the later neither were penalties from a contact perspective because they were manufactured by the attacker

@@fuzzywuzzy599 yeah that’s what I meant it was a pen because there was contact it was soft but he kind of created it

@@fuzzywuzzy599 same time the keeper should’ve known better then to go forward with his leg I was listening to harry symeou chronicles of a gooner and he said even though Havertz is blatantly trailing his leg travers comes out and gives that contact at the end of the day de bruyne Kane grealish many players do this to win games it’s small margins but it’s all part of the modern game players win penalty’s even when they are soft and var is useless anyways because they have the wrong people behind it imo

@@Themaskedcannon I'd prefer to have people play football and see what they could actually do if they tried, instead of looking for reasons to go down. The right to go down is not football it's cheating and lowers the standard of the game and the spectacle it could be. VAR should be a tool for the ref to use to reach the fairest decision. Why should a vantage point be denied to the ref when it's available.

@@fuzzywuzzy599 stop moaning and writing essays your allowed to have your opinion but at the end of the day we won how many times have decisions gone against us just be happy with the W I agree some of the decisions favoured us but how many decisions have favoured city etc how many mistakes in general have the pgmol made it’s happened we won the game just be happy it could’ve been like last year were we drop off the title race and rivals start calling us bottlers again

You seem to care

Would actually be a good piece of business for both clubs if they're willing to pay a fat fee.

Jesus certainly works hard enough to suit the Atletico style, so might just be 2+2=4 easy link to make

Lol

@@TheGoonerTalkTV 😂😂 is what it is 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

Didn’t know I was moaning 😂

@@TheGoonerTalkTV you were going on about it being a dive, poor Bournemouth, that’s moaning in my book 😂😂 anyway. Everyone’s opinion is valid, yours is just wrong 😂😂 it’s a penalty, it’s given 10/10 these days and raya would of got a clean punch on the ball if he hadn’t been moved by even a centimeter - let alone the nudge, it moved his hand enough that he didn’t get a clean punch - there by a foul. And it’s all irrelevant anyway because they should have been down to 10 men. Get that decision right, the rest is history. So I agree it’s soft and shouldn’t be a pen… who cares what I think, it’s a pen in this day and age

Must’ve listened to a different pod 😜 really doing think I was “going on” mentioned it only when prompted and did move on

Solid to be our number 2