GoPro Hero 12 vs Hero 11 - Honest Comparison

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Check out what the GoPro Hero 12 looks like next to the GoPro Hero 11 before you buy...
I will be comparing in later videos, Max Lens Mods, stabilisation including Horizon Levelling which I need the Max Lens Mod 2.0 for, low light filming, battery life and a few other features, as well as putting it up against the DJI Action 4.
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10:35 Timewarp
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@GoPro 9 ай бұрын

Phillip, You’ve had quite the journey with HERO12 Black so far! While we understand you got the camera fair + square from a retailer, they mistakenly put it on shelf early. HERO12 goes on sale at retailers worldwide + preorders start shipping tomorrow, September 13. This means official firmware STILL isn’t available. Our teams are constantly working to fine-tune firmware up until on-shelf day + beyond. We encourage you to update your HERO12 to the latest firmware when it becomes available on the Quik app later today. Since we don’t know what firmware you have, you should first factory reset your camera to make sure the production firmware loads correctly. This will help with your comparison + future reviews 👍

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

It's great to finally hear from you guys, it would be great if you could drop me an email and we could talk a little more, I have a few questions that I'd like answered to help me with my upcoming reviews. Yes, retailer human error + KZfaqr go together like peas and carrots, I couldn't resist. I will of course follow your instructions and factory reset the camera before I do the official update via the Quik app to bring my audience and the KZfaq community the most authentic GoPro videos possible to help, educate and inspire. Thanks for getting in touch 🤜🏻🤛🏻

@cdjxwubcyex 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba I have noticed that after "getting in touch" many reviewers starts to praise these cameras, like there's no tomorrow...

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I like sticking to be open and honest, even when I work with other companies similar in size to GoPro, I am honest in my reviews. I believe this type of honesty helps companies grow, allows them to improve their products and if they listen, gains them a ton of respect from the community as well as loyalty.

@EspenJohan 9 ай бұрын

@GoPro what would have been smart is to send the camera for testing to smaller channels as well. It would make everything more believable. Many of the larger channels have lost all their credibility. They don't even use the cameras. Those of us who actually engage in outdoor activities are the ones you have to focus on. Just a little tip from a fan of GoPro

@ItzSKYVlogs 9 ай бұрын

Yooo that’s pretty dope that you guys reached out to P!!! You guys are some reals one! 😎🥷

@rodneyrobbie 9 ай бұрын

The 11 looks better hand down! Very clear & crispy! Not sure what the settings on both camera’s are set on, but yeah just my opinion from your footage!

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Both had the same settings, but later on hdr and flat profiles. The hdr vs natural ofcourse makes the Hero 11 sharper and more contrasty.

@Flyer2303 9 ай бұрын

Was the lense clean? Looks odd. Could be a dodgy firmware too of course. 😉

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

@@Flyer2303 I think it was, but I can't be 100%. It was when I started filming, that's certain.

@abekislevitz 9 ай бұрын

HDR automatically sets the ISO so during lowlight, HDR generally will have softer details due to needing to crank the iso higher for the dual exposures.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

@@abekislevitz I'm really enjoying hdr, I was playing with it more today, and whilst it does the iPhone sun-bed look on my face when it's getting a little too much sun as apposed to the shadow areas it generally does a superb job. The amount of detail it retains in the highlights is wild compared to the standard profile, and therefore really has its uses if taken advantage of in the right situations. Thanks for dropping by Abe, it's an honour. I've been buying GoPros since the late 00's, it's fascinating to think you've had an input on no doubt all of them.

@rasmushag 9 ай бұрын

is it only me or does the 11 look a little bit better outside?

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I’d say the same looking at the first shots in natural vs natural.

@rasmushag 9 ай бұрын

i have a gopro hero 9, should i buy the 11, 12 or wait until a new gopro comes out? @@PhillipSkraba

@iamralpgonzales 9 ай бұрын

I waited for hero 12 before I buy a Gopro but I think the difference on the 11 is not that a big deal (for me) - better to buy the 11. but great review Philip! cheers!

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

If it’s between the two, I’d go with the Hero 12, it has all the options and more minus the GPS.

@octny 9 ай бұрын

no GPS is a big minus! many people use it even just to take photos when travelling in remote places, to view them later on a map!@@PhillipSkraba

@AlrotaMusic 9 ай бұрын

13:52 Had both of them the same hypersmooth settings? To me the GoPro 11 just worked so much better there. Not sure if it's due to HDR mode then?

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

It's possible, I will be updating my asap and trying out all the stabilisation settings in a dedicated video soon.

@michaelgiordano 9 ай бұрын

HDR mode looks good in this. I'm interested in seeing the lens mod. Battery life claims seem very exaggerated. Also, I'm going to keep saying there is zero reason the 11 can't have live preview. If it can stream to social media and record internally at the same time then it has all the capability, GoPro is just gatekeeping this feature to entice and upgrade to the 12. It's too bad GoPro doesn't offer some type of software upgrade for the 11 with the purchase of the new lens mod.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

The hdr looks great, and believe me, I was pissed from the Hero 8 and up that GoPro didn’t have live view record.

@Patrickunterwegs 5 ай бұрын

Great comparison. I still have one question which GoPro couldn't or didn't want to answer. For me I like to film im Flat or future then in GP-Log. For me it seemed that GP-Log also includes some HDR-features, because the background was not burned out in the parking garage at 8:21 before you started to run. The silver car in the background was with Hero12 very good to see, but with Hero11 completely burned out. Do you have an info/feeling about if HDR is also part of GP-Log?

@armando.visuals 9 ай бұрын

🙋HDR doesn't work when light is constantly changing in my experience. HDR works best when the scene between the shadows and highlights have more contrast. Which is why in 05:12 the 12 looks better and the in 05:39 the 11 looks better. So it all depends what situation you use it for. But the 12 having HDR is of course a good thing.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Yes, that's very true. Some situations make hdr look really bad, and it's our creative choice when we choose to use it. If you're using it in a professional way, you'll know that and use it to your advantage. I think it's a good thing too, we now have an extra choice.

@gurahamu4718 9 ай бұрын

I think had GoPro called this the 11+ (a bit like the 3+ all those years ago), I don't think there'd be as much negativity. My GoPro 7 black recently failed (power button and leaky seal) and after looking around and researching, I went with the OA4 for my specific use cases. Liking it so far, but I think GoPros are pretty good too. I'm more surprised how little GP12 coverage there is relative to other launches, but seems the odd embargo and perhaps not seeding as many units accounts for that? Sure, if you have a 10 or 11, maybe not a need to upgrade, but I have no idea how many people upgrade action cams annually.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Annually is crazy, every 3-4 years sure. I buy them or get them for reviews, that’s all. The OA4 is excellent!

@LookatBowen 9 ай бұрын

Hero 11 looked better in most of your video review. HDR in hero 12 looks good. Get rid of the gym membership, buy a concept 2 rowing machine. Sorted! Great video as per usual. Action 4 for me. I'm still on the GoPro Hero 7, so I think that will be awesome upgrade

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Lol gym membership doesn’t work. Hero 7 to Hero 12 is an awesome upgrade 🔥

@fromia1 9 ай бұрын

The worst criticism I hear for the Action 4 is the micro jitters from the stabilization. Would be interested to hear if there is a difference between RS and RS+, and if there is a difference compared to Hypersmooth 6.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I will be testing that pretty soon too. However I don’t notice any in my Action 4.

@maryetdave 9 ай бұрын

Heard that there is a DJI update that just came out to help with the jitters

@Kenflyer 9 ай бұрын

Fantastic comparison! Can you overexpose GP-Log like SLog-3 or not?

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Nah, I’d probably keep it clean, I don’t think this sensor will handle overexposure too well.

9 ай бұрын

Hi Forest ;) First of all thank you for some semi low light test. I watched your video at my 50 inches TV to see detail differences between both camera and here it is what I spotted: 1. HDR is amazing if we talk about scenes in 05:16 (we see what is outside in 12, we see nothing in 11) and 11:55. Thats really something. 2. I was looking at your t-shirt and 11 gave a smooth as baby face look of it. 12 gave as bumpy texturres a bit grundge effect which is acceptable. 3. Cons of HDR we can see at you face. Its a bit overdraw 13:10 or maybe its just my feeling. Anyway it was quite nice compare. I am looking forward for next episods. I bet GP will release better FW which correct some issues. At the and to be totally honest - if not HDR I see not much differnces between those devices. Audio is same, overall quality as well. To be honest I am still do not have reason to be shame as a owner of GPH7. Lets see with direct compare test with DJI4. Greatings. PS: I am still holding like GPU potencial buyers ;)

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Yes, on the face HDR is overkill, especially in bright sunlight. I like the GP-Log, still need to test that a lot more.

@rickparkinmoto 9 ай бұрын

The 12 does seem like an overall improvement, albeit evolutionary rather than revolutionary, but from your footage it appears to suffer from considerably worse lens flare when the light is behind you @7:16. I've got one on order anyway. I've already got the 11 so now I'll be able to have one both front and back on my motorcycle (the 11 with the GPS on the front).

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Now that sounds like a solid setup. The Hero 12 will be great as you'll be able to have live view whilst you're recording now, big deal for mounting.

@TravelingwithAndrew 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for great comparison. Just wish to see LOG vs HDR to see who gets the best DR.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

GP-Log vs HDR on the Hero 12, I'll be doing that too.

@RetroBusker 9 ай бұрын

Can u shoot hdr with 4k60 lock horizen with and without max lens mod 2

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I will be testing that tomorrow when the Max Lens Mod 2.0 arrives 🔥

@Bullitain 9 ай бұрын

thanks for doing a proper log comparison vs the hero 11, just what I was looking for

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

The Log looks great on the Hero 12, looking forward to using it.

@hmmme3 9 ай бұрын

I bought the 11 on sale a couple of weeks ago not knowing the 12 was about to release. I live on an island and thought we wouldn’t see the 12 any time soon so I was content. Today I went to the store and saw they had the 12 in stock and I couldn’t pass it up! Luckily I was still in my return window for the 11.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Oh no way!! You lucky soul!! You'll love it, hdr will come in handy for some nice island shots 🔥

@EhCloserLook 9 ай бұрын

I did something similar… I bought the 11 before I left the USA for a long trip. That said, IDT I’m going to return it (in the near future) in order to get the 12. What do you guys think?

@jackpjk 9 ай бұрын

So the HDR in the Hero 12 is not BT.2020 in a HDR profile like PQ or HLG? Is it rendered in SDR (Rec.709) and simply given more dynamic range by blending frames and/or tone mapping differences? And are we able to apply GoPro's various colors profiles to their HDR mode, and is it 8 or 10 bit?

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Yes, I believe it's a couple of rendered shots at different iso's to give us a hdr shot.

@jackpjk 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba Okay cool, thanks!

@regislaveuve 9 ай бұрын

Hi, thanks for your video. You used HDR on gopro hero 12 during the test ?

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Sure, if you watched it, you’d know 😂

@lapuraneta509 9 ай бұрын

Hello I enjoy ur videos. Quick question was the hero 12 lens dirty it looks like a smoky film not clearlike the hero 11.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

It’s possible I touched it, it’s almost 30c out here, so hot and sweaty. As real as it gets, rarely is a GoPro lens crystal clear 😂

@DJPREZ 9 ай бұрын

I currently have a hero 9 and I’m looking to upgrade.. what would be the best option? GH12 or A4?? Thanks!

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Both are excellent options, and I’d say both are on par with each other. If you need hdr, GoPro has it, if you prefer a simple menu system and native quick release system DJI has it. I’ll be putting them against each other in the next few days, you can see what happens.

@DJPREZ 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba thanks for the response! I appreciate that! And yes.. all those points you mentions is what makes it so complicated to choose! Can’t wait to see your next video! 🫡

@bomatravels 9 ай бұрын

Honestly i dont see a noticeable difference 😅 Firmware update! I have hero 10 and got action4 last week. Thanks for the video 🙏🏻

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Well, I think the hdr, GP-Log and Max Lens Mod 2.0 will make a big difference. The Action 4 is an excellent camera, it's a good choice.

@ephemeralmoments 9 ай бұрын

Nice first testing! I can't stop wondering if you happened to touch the lens of your GP12 somewhere during the review. It might also somehing else, but to me the lens seems not to be perfectly clean. When filming against the light the contrast considerably drops on GP12 and the dark areas become too bright... Regarding the battery, it would be nice to have a test under exactly the same conditions. HDR on GP12 probably needs a little bit more power. On the other hand GPS should be switched off on the GP11 (if not already done). Looking forward to more comparisons.

@dbsranchr 9 ай бұрын

That’s what I thought too.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

It is very possible. Hot and sweaty 30c here today, but I guess that makes it an even more authentic test, as I think most GoPros are dirty. More comparisons on their way 🤘🏻

@dbsranchr 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba it’s been a brutal summer here too. Thanks for the review!!

@xXadambXx 9 ай бұрын

maybe it's too much of a request, but I'm curious about the comparison between gplog and gopro lab wide on in hero 11. for professionals, gopro lab can be set like a timecode (TCAL). supposedly you can change it yourself LOGB = logbase, offset only from hero 11. the question is whether this is all they introduced, maybe all these new things in hero 12 are proven experiments on gopro lab (I ignore the bluetooth connection). I see that in darker conditions the camera does not try to brighten the image so much, but rather maintains a fast shutter speed, they even changed the basic speed to maybe 1/50-60s, whereas in Hero 11 it is definitely 1/30 at settings 25/ 30 fps is better because I locked it at >1/100, where the stabilization still works.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I think little has changed, smoke and mirrors really. As I keep saying, the Max Lens Mod 2.0 is where the real magic happens.

@divyeshpatil7857 9 ай бұрын

I am going to buy GoPro 11 ..uts really heating problem? Please suggest

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I’d go with the Hero 12 if you have a choice.

@ThisOldGreenhouse 6 ай бұрын

Do you get a lot of sun streaks when filming with the sun behind you or is this just mine?

@PhillipSkraba 6 ай бұрын

It’s not something that is abnormal, most of these small cameras will have some kind of wild flare.

@garethaustin1212 9 ай бұрын

Best video I’ve seen. And based on it I’m about to order the 12! 👌🏻

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Well thanks for that! Glad you picked it up, it's a really nice action camera!

@AnthonyDiPalma 9 ай бұрын

Great video. Thank you. What bag are you wearing?

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Ahhhh thanks! The Wandrd 3L sling, it’s absolutely fantastic!

@gggg 9 ай бұрын

If you move your eyes to the center by connecting both images, you can achieve a stereo effect in this video😄

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Lol, you!

@liquidalloy 9 ай бұрын

Great video. I'm sticking with my 10 for a while. These upgrades on the 12 are nice, but i will hold off for the 13 possibly.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

The Hero 10 is great, mind you, the Hero 12 really feels like a good upgrade. I'm sure the Hero 13 will be a monster.

@liquidalloy 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba agreed!

@alwhitney68 9 ай бұрын

Love the 10 bit HDR colour on the 12, that alone is worth the upgrade

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I think it does a good job, except in bright sunlight on the face.

@octny 9 ай бұрын

i can barely tell the difference since I cannot enable the high bit rate due to SD card compatibility issues

@ItzSKYVlogs 9 ай бұрын

Ayyywew great review P!

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@mikkel1470 20 күн бұрын

I NEED SOME HELP. I am going to buy 11 or 12. and honestly, i dont think that i have so much use for the upgrade. i am going to use the gopro when hiking, fishing and maby freediving. The problem i have is that i dont really know how much i am going to use log and HDR. And when it comes to the wide camera stuff, i mean that not alot of people have 4k or 5k monitors, so am i going to have use for the upgrade from 11 to 12 camera quality? I dont really care about the prize difference, just think that i can get a tripod with the 11 and still be under the prize of the 12. If someone can give me some answer, then i would be very happy

@DimmanExploring 9 ай бұрын

i got the new gopro 12 but i cant get the gopro update the lastest firmware did you got any issue?

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

You can’t yet, it won’t come out till tomorrow. I have a GoPro “special” firmware update 📛

@DimmanExploring 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba aha thank you i was getting crazy all day hahahaha then i though only big Yter can use it ,but i wanted to be 100%, thank yoi for the reply

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

@AbroadWithJimmy yeah, tomorrow it will be usable.

@ExcellentfilmsTube 9 ай бұрын

Your run is simply... epic - like "Chariots od fire" - you're definitely GOing PRO :D

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

hahahahaha 😂

@KamilZabost 9 ай бұрын

Dlaczego obraz z kamery która była na rigu po lewej umieściłeś w kadrze po prawej? 2:48 haha, kurde jaki zonk, nie wiedziałem co się dzieje na początku...

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Taki mindF dla was 😂

@unclewillie7921 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Phil I just went and bought one please do all the tests that you can the let us know what the capabilities are thank you

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Trust me, working hard to keep testing these. Congratulations on the purchase!

@simonlynch1412 9 ай бұрын

I think the 11 looked better in most of them shots and what happened to the stabilisation as it didn't work at all ? You say let us be the judge as you have not seen it yet but now you have I would like to hear your opinion.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Well, I had stabilisation on oldschool stabe, no horizon lock. Once you turn on horizon lock, stabilisation takes on a completely different look. I will be testing all the different stabilisation modes as soon as the Max Lens Mod 2.0 arrives that I ordered.

@simonlynch1412 9 ай бұрын

But surely now you have seen the footage you can’t say the 12 was better than the 11. By the way I have never owned a GoPro before so I am not anti GoPro and intend buying the 12 but I am disappointed with the 12 in this review

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I would say in natural profile, they are the same...but, there is an option for hdr, there is an option for Log footage, there is live view in record, there is time code, there is a new easy UI, there is an easy menu, the battery is a little better and it has a few more bells and whistles. Did you see Apple added a usb-c this year, a titanium body and apart from that, eh. We can't strive for huge steps every year.

@kamilhusna94 9 ай бұрын

Lets go OA4 vs Gopro 12… please cover the low light. And maybe some selfies photography. Love your honest review, subscribed for all the dji vs gopro rivalry series. Hahah. Please make indepth interesting review. Keep em coming.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I will be dropping the DJI Action vs GoPro Hero 12 soon, thanks 😂

@kamilhusna94 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba actually i bought the OA4, used so its surprisingly cheap. Waiting for a good comparison to justify trying out the gopro 12. Main usage not for extreme sports, just vlog & a lil photography for me and my wife. As we dont like to bother other people asking to take our photos. I think what bothers me, shadows on face can be quite dark on the oa4.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

That's why I like making videos like these, out there in the streets, like 99% of action camera users do. I'll drop my comparisons in the next coming days.

@allenmyers8568 9 ай бұрын

The reason the Hero 11 and Hero 10 don't display live preview while recording is that GoPro was sued on copyright infringement for this technology. I guess they've re-designed it. Whether it is a good as originally intended, I don't know. Whereas DJI has been using its own proprietary preview for several years.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Apparently so, those are the rumours on the street.

@maryetdave 9 ай бұрын

Per GoPro the 11 should get it in 2024 as an update

@ItzSKYVlogs 9 ай бұрын

I get mine tomorrow at a gopro event here in the Netherlands. Can’t wait to do a review! 🥷😎

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

You’re going to love it!

@zl1booker 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Phillip

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@timmark4190 9 ай бұрын

Looks like 12 under exposes a bit when compared to 11 and thus recovering the highlight. 12 has more saturation and contrast

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Yes, that's possible.

@burakyegul876 9 ай бұрын

Is this good something or no?

@krzysiekwtokio 9 ай бұрын

Nice one! Let's wait for the gp12 update and let the fight between OA4 and GP12 begin 😃

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I have both updated now, will carry on tomorrow.

@krzysiekwtokio 9 ай бұрын

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@T4nkcommander 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, just a software updated 11 without the GPS unit - so you are paying for downgraded hardware. The HDR saves post-processing but better results can be gotten out of the 11 if you are color grading. I'm usually the first to say get the latest GoPro as they are worth it but this is the exception that proves the rule. Shame GoPro won't update the 11 to have some of these features, since the hardware is clearly capable of it.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I think the real difference is the Max Lens Mod 2.0, I’m looking forward to that.

@T4nkcommander 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba That's true - the enhanced FOV is nice. But is is frustrating knowing my 11 could do it, if GoPro just released the firmware update for it.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

It's possible, maybe, I have no idea.

@thieudtcvlogs6312 9 ай бұрын

Ủa sao xem bền cam 12 lại hơi hơi bị mơ và tối vậy,,rất khó hiểu

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

No idea.

@YouTubeshortsandreelsface 9 ай бұрын

Which one i buy for my travel vlogs I dont have any experience of gopro and dji action 4 Suggest me which camera i should have to buy

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I’d probably still go with the Action 4, I know it’s reliable.

@dman5703 9 ай бұрын

Hdr look amazing! The highlights are amazing

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

It really takes care of those highlights, that's true!

@jpandrews2791 9 ай бұрын

Hey Phil, when you mentioned auto boost I thought you were talking about your superlative running 🏃‍♂️

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

hahaaha, I run like I'm chasing someone who stole my GoPro!

@liquidalloy 9 ай бұрын

HDR making a huge difference, all that is needed in the new Gopro is a larger image sensor

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

HDR makes a massive difference here.

@liquidalloy 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba I'm impressed with how nice it works. Great video btw

@BobAquatic 9 ай бұрын

12 seems like it has more pink in the skin tones. Great test dude

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

It does seem to go into a slightly cooler tone, yes. Thanks!

@paularckless7254 9 ай бұрын

When you used HDR i still thought the Hero 11 on most of the video looked better and when your video got to about 6.31 the Hero 11 footage was far better than the Hero 12, i think in all the videos i have seen so far the Hero 12 is no better and in some footage worse than the Hero 11, i will stick to the Hero 11 and see what the competition brings out.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I think it's basically the same, and for hdr, you'd have to be a hdr fan, which I am not, but it does have it's use, in low light for example, there it works magic.

@AlrotaMusic 9 ай бұрын

5:45 "Maybe that's something they'll add in a firmware upgrade" - That firmware update takes a year and is called GoPro 13 😂

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Lol, you guys!

@TommyDanger5 9 ай бұрын

this is odd, but it seems like the GP11 is sharper than the GP12? Noticed that on your face the most. That seems weird to me.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I think they're pretty comparable when it comes to the standard profile.

@allanruiz9252 9 ай бұрын

Hello! Great work! For diving, short photos and filming, in your opinion, 11 or 12?

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Thank You! I'd go with the Hero 12, it's new, it's got a load more pro options, it's clearly the winner.

@allanruiz9252 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba Thanks! Here in Brazil I have a gap of +/- USD$100 between GP11 and GP12....😩 This has made me think a lot, although your opinion had a lot of weight in my decision!

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I'd go with the Hero 12.

@allanruiz9252 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba Perfect! I just "clicked" the buy button! hahahaha

@bbofficial6544 9 ай бұрын

Facing heating problem in Go Pro 12?

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

No, it hasn't overheated on me yet, no.

@hoineenietjij3331 9 ай бұрын

I was really waiting for the 12 for my first GoPro. But when I heard that they removed the GPS I was kinda confused. For me it looked like a nice feature so I think I am going with the 11.

@juthair 9 ай бұрын

O mesmo aconteceu comigo já comprei minha 11 😢

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

The GPS has made a lot of people sad, but I’ve never used it, much like 99% of people, so personally I’m okay with that. I do understand it might be a pain for some, and I guess GoPro will have a workaround like a GPS remote like DJI.

@T4nkcommander 9 ай бұрын

Good choice. The 12 is just a software updated 11 without the GPS. I am convinced the 11 remains the best action camera on the market. You won't regret it!

@sebastienmeunier1643 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba This 1% claim by GoPro is such a load of crap!!! They are only counting people using the GPS stickers in the Quik app... Seriously, how retarded do you have to be to edit videos using that horrible crappy app?!? People who use the GPS telemetry use third-party software and edit their videos on a real computer, which GoPro cannot include in their stats! And if they hadn't murdered the Dashware software when they bought it I guarantee you more people would be using the GPS telemetry. Even if you don't want to use the GPS to add gauges in your videos, I still use the GPS to make sure all my cameras are set to the correct date and time (using the GoPro Labs firmware) and I LOVE that my photos are geotagged. Concerning a new remote that could include GPS, this is also a major fukken pain in the ass because I already have the Remote and I don't feel like getting a new one just to get GPS, which was included in previous cameras. Right now I own 11 GoPro cameras so if I wanna go race karts with friends we can all have our own GoPro and we can all get our own GPS telemetry. With the Hero 12 I would need to buy a separate remote for every single GoPro camera in order to get GPS data (assuming they do come out with a GPS remote)... You can quickly see how that doesn't make any frickin sense and why I'm so pissed that they removed the GPS.

@hoineenietjij3331 9 ай бұрын

@@T4nkcommander Yes i totally agree. They just removed the GPS that you can also disable on the 11, so they could claim better battery life and less overheating. Pretty weird selution to a problem and almost looks like a downgrade to me. Personally i want to use the gopro to film my karting races so the GPS feature is something i would like to have.

@watarchives 9 ай бұрын

Hi, question. At 12:41 did you turn on the HDR here?

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

That right there is the flat profile on the Hero 11 and the natural profile on the Hero 12.

@watarchives 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba thank you so much, with this answer you convinced me to go with Hero 12 instead of 11. I appreciate you 🙏

@kymmoulds 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great review and comparison as always Phillip. I'm sticking with my Hero 11 at this stage. Would love to see a review of the Hero 12's bluetooth and wireless GO. That said thanks again for a great and honest review and a BIG thumbs up.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Kym! I'll be testing the audio shortly, I'm very interested in that subject too.

@8passdimagfast 9 ай бұрын

Amazing hero 12 buddy

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@merryanncabajes 9 ай бұрын

After reading all the comments. I couldn't decide now which one is better to purchase. 😂 I added to cart the 11 and 12,. Let's see the final decision. 🤭

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Tell me about it!! The comments really do not help in choosing lol.

@merryanncabajes 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba I just checked out my GoPro Hero 12. 🥰

@piotr.wozniak 9 ай бұрын

Kurcze nie zauwazyles ale miales oplackowany obiektyw podczas krecenia 12tka. Eh

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Bylo 28/30 dzisiaj w Lodzi, bardzo mozliwe, tak zwany - real life test.

@BillBilly-hy6px 9 ай бұрын

I buy gp12 and video resolution is awesome!! And stability.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

The GoPro Hero 12 is a good choice!

@agator88 9 ай бұрын

Bought your new designed feet. Hoping they come in before my next trip in the 22nd.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Oh you're going to love those, they make life so much easier.

@11.Pierre 9 ай бұрын

Just what I was looking for. Let's see which 1 of these I grab, it's time to toss my old go pro hero 5 lmao

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh, yes it is!! Well, don't toss, just put in on the shelf. The Hero 12, that's the one to go with, no questions asked.

@yathaloka-866 9 ай бұрын

Good gopro in every time gopro hero 7 black, hero 9 black hero 11 black

@justpovbusnotalking 9 ай бұрын

clearly the stabilisation is better/smoother on gopro 12

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I think so too.

@chrisfrombelgium946 9 ай бұрын

HDR looks great.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

It does a good job in certain circumstances.

@don_rafau 9 ай бұрын

Najbardziej czekam na porównanie Action4 z Gopro12🤓Mega dobry test, pzdr!

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Niebawem to tez zrobie 🔥

@don_rafau 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba mógłbyś przy porównaniu zwrócić uwagę na problem z ostrością w Action4? Wiele osób zgłasza problemy z mocnym rozmyciem na bokach obrazu oraz zbyt dalekie ustawieniu focusa, przez co często przy vlogowaniu twarz jest niewyraźna. Byłbym mega wdzięczny, ponieważ właśnie stoję przed tym ciężkim wyborem (DJI A4 VS GP12) 🙈

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

@don_rafau nie mam tego problemu, ale napewno zrobie close up vlog style dla porownaniu 🤘🏻

@rajzabike 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba też przyłączam się do tej prośby.

@charchitgoyal2325 9 ай бұрын

Using Dji to shoot a comparison between Gopro 11 and 12. Noicee man 😂

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I like to live dangerously 😂

@simonlynch1412 9 ай бұрын

And I’m actually considering buying that now instead of the GoPro is the footage from that looks great.

@EspenJohan 9 ай бұрын

Sorry to say, but I cant see any difference. Yes HDR do something, but upgrading from hero 11. Nope!. I have the Hero 10, works fine. Sometimes. I also have action 4, looks better then hero 12

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

The Action 4 is excellent. I don't think the upgrade is needed from the Hero 11 unless you use this in a professional environment, where you can make use of GP-Log, time codes and hdr here and there. If you're on the Hero 10, sure, that's worth an upgrade.

@EspenJohan 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba Truth be told, you are actually one of the few channels on KZfaq that is honest and sincere. And the GoPro Hero 12 seems to be a good camera, but I think many had hoped for more. But possibly next year👍

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Thanks, I take pride in that. I think it's a great camera, with a ton of new options for pros, and sure, maybe next year they'll be ready for a bigger sensor, 8k, fireworks and all that jazz. We'll see.

@Hfdsyi0pnvcx 9 ай бұрын

Спасибо за видео bro.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@spirittravels. 9 ай бұрын

How is the Hero 10 compared to the 11?

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Pretty similar.

@spirittravels. 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba cheers

@rogerking5197 9 ай бұрын

It Stays clear at all times you see it for Yourself

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Still identical, except when I turn on other Hero 12 features.

@bibinkurian1 9 ай бұрын

Hero 11 looks better than 12. Any setting difference??

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Well, if you look at the first shots, it's the same, after that I use hdr and GP-Log on the Hero 12, choices the Hero 11 doesn't have, so it may appear the Hero 11 looks better, but in reality it's the first shot that shows that the standard profile is basically the same.

@legendfpv 7 ай бұрын

You messed up the footage with the 12 😬, that's not how it looks. Check your settings again

@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын

Nope, it’s fine, and that’s how it looks.

@darmasutha2777 9 ай бұрын

Thanks, just canceled my 12 pre-orders and going to buy the 11 😂

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I guess it really depends on your use case scenario, if it's vlogging, the Hero 11 is more than enough. If you want choices as you're filming more ambitious projects with it, GP-Log will come in handy, as will live view record.

@JoJoEnglish 9 ай бұрын

Nahh not much of a difference for what I need. The DJI Action 4 seems to be the clear winner in this video

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

If you're coming from a Hero 11, yeah, not so much for everyday vlog use.

@JoJoEnglish 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba Ya if you have an 11, not sure why you would upgrade unless you just do upgrades just because... I'm coming from the Hero 8 and Insta X2, but I'm digging the Action 4 the most out of all of them.

@user-lh8pc2dz8i 7 ай бұрын

U feel like the cams were switched around like the first 10min hero11 was looking very sharp n crisp then afterwards it was hero 12

@PhillipSkraba 7 ай бұрын

Everything was correctly tagged 🔥

@deraid712 9 ай бұрын

Lens on hero 12 look better, tinted, or aperture higher on hero 12, but on hero 11 lens everything looks more fish eye than on hero 12. Other than that they are identical

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

They seem very similar, yes.

@somaticHuman 9 ай бұрын

Something is wrong with the lenses on Go Pro 12. The glare of the sun behind you makes me think that there are cheap plastic lenses with low transparency.

@lyric.kayden 5 ай бұрын

I don’t own either but looking at buying one of these two. I can definitely say after watching this video and several others that the HERO11 looks much better. I’m being totally unbiased here as I don’t own either but I’m in the market. I don’t even understand DJi Action 4 as every video the HERO11 looks so much better than the DJI Action 4. Trust me I don’t mind $500 for the right one, not a problem but geez I’m totally shocked the more I see. Maybe it’s the perfectionist and knitpicker in me lol. I’m sure for anyone that any of these could would be amazing.

@PhillipSkraba 5 ай бұрын

I think it’s the introduction of hdr, but you can turn that off and it looks much more natural. The Hero 12 is by far the better choice in every single way, I’m unbiased too, I own all of them, and the Hero 12 has great improvements over the Hero 11, especially battery life and reliability.

@lyric.kayden 5 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba sounds awesome, that is what I’m leaning towards myself. Thank you 😊

@yasunakaikumi 9 ай бұрын

OA4 vs GPH12 comparison LFG

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Will be coming asap.

@bbofficial6544 9 ай бұрын

Go pro 12 vs dji osmo 4 which purchase

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

It's a hard choice, I like both of them.

@bbofficial6544 9 ай бұрын

Sir please tell me I started you tube for bike vlogging which cemara is best go pro 12 vs DJI 4 please you suggest me sir 🙏🏻

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Both are excellent, you can't go wrong.

@zigmilimbujames1940 9 ай бұрын

The stabilization is better in hero 12 then hero 11

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Wait till I test Horizon Lock 🔥

@edselharrison 9 ай бұрын

In HDR, it seems the only improvement is in the highlights, they're not as blown out. The shadows seem to be better on the 11. Meh...

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Yes, exactly.

@los_kiros 9 ай бұрын

In your running test (Audio in camera part) looks like GoPro 11 has much more better stabilization :DDD

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Well, I'll be doing a dedicated stabilisation video, where I turn on horizon lock, but I'm waiting for the Max Lens Mod 2.0.

@stefpix 9 ай бұрын

71% vs 68% is not double battery life. It sounds negligible. And the Hero 12 probably had a brand new battery, and the Hero 11 not, so the difference is moot,. I have the 10 and the 11, I barely see a difference in the real world. I do not need GPS often, but it is nice to have to geotag places. Probably the Hero 10 is the best deal among the action cameras.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I am really liking the Hero 12, but yeah, it's not double battery life, not with how I'm using it at the moment.

@stefpix 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba how would you rate the battery life difference at 5K 60fps between the 12 and the 10 or 11? In the end all these GoPros are good enough

@ia6980 9 ай бұрын

I ordered 12, cuz lost my 11, but why 12 is much darker in most of your comparisons? Thats a big no for me, image looks much darker!

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

That really depends on what profile you’re using. It’s the same on the first natural shots, I wouldn’t say it differs.

@goyetus 9 ай бұрын

Maybe is firmware .... but im dissapointed. Hero 11 video has better image clarity , lower grain in low light, and better in general...... It seems the "battery fix" to 12 comes with a big cost. In PC, there are a few codecs and not "magic" as Go Pro says..... Hope im mistake.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I think it's all down to use case scenario. The Hero 12 is not a huge update from the Hero 11, BUT, it is an excellent camera, with a few more choices that make a difference to pros. If you're coming from the Hero 10 or lower, sure, it's worth the jump up.

@goyetus 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba THANKS a lot for the video. I Will upgrade from Hero 8. Will see Next days... you are the first!!!

@azael831 9 ай бұрын

Will stick with my 11 till the 13

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

That sounds like a plan.

@n0.- 9 ай бұрын

Imo hyperview is WAYYY too distorted. I prefer the 8:7 shape. On my Hero11 I love using the 8:7 feature Also I hope somebody tears down this camera to confirm whether the GPS has been removed or just disabled in software.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I think that would be a waste of a camera lol. The distortion is wild, yep, I much prefer the straight lines on the Action 4.

@n0.- 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkrabaI don't think it would be a waste bc of FPV pilots removing screen, battery, etc from GoPro to make it lighter for FPV drones

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Well, they have the Bones, I think that's what they use a lot. I think.

@pauleuc2212 9 ай бұрын

Weird but the image quality seems to look bettrr on the 11

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

To me it seems identical in the first shots where both are set to standard.

@SAGAR_S_JADHAV 9 ай бұрын

Thsnks I find fish eye view in gopro is annoying

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

It is a little fish eye, I prefer the straight lines on the Action 4.

@TableTennisWithChampions 9 ай бұрын

Interestingly, Hero 11 footage looked better and crisper in almost all the cases! 🤔

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

Well, I'd say in the first comparisons it looked pretty much the same. In hdr, sure, as hdr will look less crisp, in GP-Log, same thing, it'll be flatter than flat. So in reality, it's the same, but with a ton more when it comes to choices and options.

@TableTennisWithChampions 9 ай бұрын

@@PhillipSkraba I will take your word for it. Amazing video! 1 more question, when are you releasing the video comparing Max Lens 1.0 vs Max Lens 2.0 ? Really excited for that comparison.

@PhillipSkraba 9 ай бұрын

I ordered that via Amazon US to Poland, to it should be here on Wednesday Thursday, as I saw it was sent yesterday. As soon as I get it I'll be on that.