Kinny would love a place like this

Can’t wait to watch it!

@@klmoll it is a shorter version. But still good. 🙂

I just watched it. Haoko and Shabani are brothers. I wonder if that was them when they were little. There is a striking resemblance to dad.. it’s amazing.

@@mariapittman8970 I think they were already moved at this time. These are their little siblings . I think Haoko looks just like his Dad too.

That's what happens to my gf she keeps me om my toes as well haha

There should not be any zoo's at all.

Richard is a very mean silverback with no heart. The way he treated Bikira (innocent,kind,sensitive) when she first arrived to her whole entire stay with him and his troop was and will forever be unforgivable!

@Lagia I agree there are no evil gorillas but there are some with more aggressive personalities, and all of them are bred to be powerful.

​@wanda moser then there probably wouldn't be a lot of animals left

​@@mhfan1077а кто покусал мать Генка,после чего та сдохла?

They have the strength of about 10 men and one of their favorite pastimes is to aggravate the females, like he is doing now.😮😅

@@juliajohnson6022gets everybody up exercising! 😂

I know what you mean d jeeco of tiapei zoo has 2 wives one name lriki no trouble has a baby name Ringo but tayari his other wife if you watch them you would think she is the Silverback for real she beats up on him she do not stand down she do what she wants to the other wife tayari steals the other wife's baby so Ringo n doing tayari rapes the other wife's son beats the little one drags Ringo around by one arm did I mention they are half sister s if little Ringo want to get away from auntie tayari drags him back sit n rape the little right in front of the mom hits the mom n run off again with over n over again n the dad just sit there n watch or turn his head away n refuse to stop tayari from hurting the little one she n tayari has her son jabali doing the same thing to Ringo hell it rare to see tayari not rapeing her son or her sisters so n Ringo it happensevery damn day .she chase d jeeco the Silverback down to fight him he can not control tayari at all in a word he's a punk he don't even control his son jabali by tayari tayari is very disrespectful to the whole troop .d jeeco don't act like a Silverback he really know what to do he has no leadership it's in himself hehas little to no interest in his baby son Ringo n that's very sad but what is is interested in is is oldest son jabali that at times don't get breast milk a lot of times if n that's under protest from wife tayari whe she feels like it or jabali has to fight for his milk from his mom the zoo feeds jabali even he's do get milk he was fending for himself since he was about 4-5 Mos. Old .she has gotten a little better but she leaves him alone a lot n want her sister to babysit jabali most of the time can anyone explain why this Silverback hasn't been strong to stand up to his wife tayari she do have some what of a light mark on her back to tell you the truth tayari has more Silverback in her than her husband d jeeco. Thing is why don't he stand up to his wife tayari n it's more to this than meets the eyes

Agreed. This is one site I will tune out

Yes, you are right. This is not a natural environment for them. Can you image 5 human beings living in this close proximity and under the eyes of others that control their living conditions? Zoos need to change or go out of business if they cannot offer better life conditions of their animals.

jel0sh. Agreed. I found it disturbing hearing them laughing.

🤣🦍🤣🦍 that's funny

What? Haoko is an amazing silverback. He is doing that for a reason. It’s clear for me.

Yeah Momotaro is always mad at Gentaro. With Momo family, they cant even give them there meals together. Especially Momotaro he has to have all the good food and he will get all the good food if they dont split them up. Haoko is a sweet heart compared to some of the other familys.

You're delusional! Haoko is one of the sweetest Gorillas. Remember they're animals and not people 🙄 Typical gorilla behavior

All gorilla troops do this all the time they all chase the silver back after he discipline someone

@@gregsutton2400 momoko is a little different. If you watch some old videos, after haoko would bite momoko, she would literally stalk him forever. Instead of chasing the silverback, and when he stops, they stop. Which is what normally happens.

@@bigboytoyz541 she and her kids chassed him even if he was disciplining Mom for attacking a daughter. It is exactly the same. Exactly.

@@gregsutton2400 I'm not talking about her kids. In the early years of this group, haoko would attack all three of the females for no reason. When he did, momoko would stalk him for hours. She wouldn't run, she would just follow him everywhere, and not give him a break at all. I know what you mean, they all chase after the silverback when something happens, but this is totally different.

@@bigboytoyz541 Ok, I will have to track that down, thanks. She is a very very very strong female. lol

This habitat is barely a half a step up from Kyoto Zoo. I have yet to see a Japanese zoo with a habitat hospitable for gorilla's. It's like they really don't care. Shameful in my opinion. They could sure take several pointers from Taipei, Apenhuel and just about ANY other zoo. But I guess as long as they're getting Yen, they're okay with these dirt pits. Horrendous.

But exactly right. They will always need him for protection. But sometimes the troop bond especially among the females needs to b tested from time to time. Good observation

I've wondered if the alpha males can sense tension amongst the females and strategically instigate some incident to focus their attention away from their personal peeves. Nothing brings a group together faster than a common enemy-- real, or perceived.

Amazing observation

Oh, so that's why after everything was calm and quiet, Haoko had to do that last grabbing of the rope with a charge? Because he was still playing? He was aiming towards Momoka from the very beginning with no end in sight...something happen prior to this being filmed. The look on Haokos face says it all. But, hey we are all entitled to our subjective opinions.

@@thesummerof1968 I agree there is more to the film but I think it's just another example of the way the males of this troop (and his brother Shibani) were raised. They do a lot of highly physical play that borders on fighting mostly involving getting the females to chase the silverback. Also remember that some charges/aggression aren't always just about discipline or aggression, so when he runs by on his hind legs Hoako could just be displaying for the sake of showing how strong/attractive he is.

No, they just understand that these are gorillas, not humans. There's nothing wrong with what's happening. They're evolved to behave this way.

@@pheeel17 Whatever...

Caged for life. “I hope those wild animals know how lucky they are.” Humans are such a generous bunch.

@@freehahahafree it sucks all the way around for ALL animals…. my point was this group at least has some kind of a set up compared to some of the terrible set ups ive seen in other zoos.

You right they are lucky to have a setup i seen this poor family and they dont even have trees or grass

@@freehahahafree then tell people in africa to stop killing them and their homes and people wont have to rescue them and put them in these places and the person is right they are lucky to have this setup i seen another family on youtube who gets millions of views and they dont even trees or grass or nice veggies and fruit yet the youtuber makes millions off of his videos but cant donate to the poor gorilla family on another channel

@@lifesstrueerealityy3989 It is far from just Africans that need to change their ways. Take a look into the “Palm Oil Industry and the multinational corporations that are responsible for the destruction of their habitat. Consumers that buy these products also shoulder some blame. Blaming it on Africans is extremely shortsighted.

He's a mean drunk. Hopefully, he will receive help at his AA meetings.

@@nickv4073 a mean drunk? What a ridiculous comment

@@bxchicc7799 It's called sarcasm.

Shabani didn’t do any harm. He was playing tag , a thing he loves to do with his troop

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@Ana Arteaga No my friend. That kind of aggressiveness is not normal. The normal for gorillas is the females are able to go off and choise other male if their want to.

@Ana Arteaga jjja Mejor en español. Yo vivo en Buenos Aires.

I realize this is 6 months late, but if you haven't found out, maybe this will help. The silverback Haoko-age 27 & Momoko-age 38 are parents to 3 offspring. Daughters: Komomo-age 12, & Momoka-age 8, and a son, Riki-age 4. The other adult female is Toto-age 44-no offspring. He was born in a stable family with both parents & 4 siblings. Haoko moved to Ueno Zoo Japan in 2007. His mate Momoko has a son who is a silverback at Kyoto Zoo Japan. Momoko has always been the dominant female in any group she was in, so she can certainly hold her own. Just this year, the zoo announced that Momoko was pregnant again. Happy gorilla watching!

@@Charlotte-r Thank you for responding! I know all about these and several of the gorilla families in Japan now. I have been consistently watching them for awhile . I am such a fan of these gorillas🥰😍

@Blue Razz Cotton Candy i agree! Hope you have watched Haoko's brother, Shabani. He is quite the character!

@@Charlotte-r yes!! Shabani and Momotaro are my favorite 😍

@Blue Razz Cotton Candy My very favorite is Gentaro. I know he's growing and at an awkward age, but he touches my heart ❤️. I often wonder what Momo's personality would be if he had a stable home, siblings to grow up with, & a dad to emulate 🤔, like Haoko & Shabani. Momo is different, but he has to learn as he goes. I ❤️ him too! I think Shabani is a great dad, playing with Kiyo & Annie all the time. He cracks me up! Thanks so much for the enjoyable conversation!!

I think we have to remember here that they're not humans. While this may look like an "abusive" Silverback to you, this is the family dynamic they've evolved to have over millions of years. Not for us to make a call on when's appropriate to separate a father from his family.

@@pheeel17 should not have them in captivity to start with. They shouldn't make the call to imprison them. ABUSIVE!!!!!

@@wandamoser7909 until we find a way to protect their habitat we may need to continue protecting the species the best way we can at this time.

@@pheeel17 That is not exactly the case. Females can and WILL leave a silverback they don't like in the wild. Generally, a silverback only remains dominant for a few years in a wild group before another silverback takes over.

I dont

I agree

It was his daughter Momoka. He usually treats his kids so well. What’s up with him?

You are Naive!!! I can't believe you said put them in the Wild??? They would all Die within a few weeks in the Wild, because they were not born and raised in the Wild!!!🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😡😡😡