and Mother's Day, Memorial Day, Christmas, Easter, every Sunday, etc, etc, etc.

But are men looking for Jesus? If so, where else are they finding Him?

@@KiRetteCouture The Bible

@@CptTexas1 Good. But are they forsaking the assembly of the brethren or creating assemblies where they can serve God faithfully?

@@KiRetteCouture what assembly? The one in the dark facing the lighted professional worship team?

⁠@@KiRetteCouturemen are forsaking the assembly because it’s in all honesty not always there. Because a church has men doesn’t men there is a focus on growing that man in Jesus Christ.

Say that again bro! 😂

Good to see this much neglected topic discussed. Somewhat tamely. Jesus had no problem attracting men as followers, so we have a problem in view. Here's my top suggestion: stop propagating a view that says 'man, get in a building every Sunday and sing songs and hear a talk, for this is following Christ!' It ain't. If 'outside' was good enough for the early church, well then.... Second - affinity groups. All the best to all.

@@mozdicksonExcept the outside wasn't where the early church did its worship. Early Christians went to "a building every Sunday and sing songs and hear a talk." They worshipped in synagogues and houses that were transformed into a place a of worship (ie not someone's living room). Corporate worship in a physical structure goes all the way back to the tabernacle in the OT. And yes, "singing songs" is part of that corporate worship. And yes, sermons or homilies were given as well.

Reinstate the culture of patriarchy, and men will return.

Listen to the first speakers opening statement.

@@KiRetteCouture Yes that's how you do it: Titus 2 verse 6, that's how and give them responsibility to carry.

Do you want to attact Christians or non-Christians? If non-Christians: debates, street evangelism (not direct John 3:16, but confront common ideas with (Biblical) common sense, like Louder with Crowder 'prove me wrong' stands), development weekends: hiking, hunting, camping, repairing poor people's homes...with time to talk. If Christian, see above, but add small groups for Bible reading and pointed discussion. These are college kids: put the bar high. get a reading list together of classics, and expect the Bible to be read through annually. CS Lewis, Schaeffer...all still relevant.

That pastor doesn’t get it. It’s not the “musical” guys that you aren’t reaching. SMH

Perceptive! It's because Calvinists really know their theology is truly wrong.

I didn’t know that these guys were Calvinists

@@darkknight901TGC is created by evangelical Reformed (Reformed evangelical?) Protestants which means they are some theological descendants of John Calvin.

Your understanding of Calvinism is all muddled up my friend. Please seek to understand before you slander entire sets of Christians who love the Lord but disagree with you on specific issues. You show a lack of the love of Christ.

@@Kyletamblyn And then dont proceed to correct his understanding if he has misunderstood? That isn't helpful in any way.

I can't speak for this video, but to my understanding discipleship encompasses much more than spreading the words of the Gospel. That's because discipleship involves believers' growth in the faith by following the Lord Jesus Christ more and more, which is accomplished by observing and learning to do all that is commanded in the word of God, by His grace in Christ.

I think you're right to be wary of what they're saying in this video because of the content, especially considering the apparent agendas that seem to be being pushed by TGC currently.

Evangelism is spreading the Gospel. Discipleship is doing what Jesus did with the twelve... Live life together, teaching them how to live as true followers of Christ, as men who are above reproach, who fear and love God, who can then repeat the process. Jesus loved these men and reinforced "others centered" agape love for them to comprehend and also to live out. Discipleship is so much more than academic or formal teaching. This is why Jesus says in John 13:35 (ESV) "By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another"

The guy on the right spoke about fellowshiping with men and studying the Bible regularly over 2 years.

this is done in alignment with the Word of God encouragement to do better is outreach and ministry.

so how would you describe a "real man"?

@@danielceltics20 only a real man would know (no insults, disrespect intended or foolishness intended)

​@@jackwilley9847 Even if no "foolishness intended", your comments still comes across as foolish - childish even. What's the point of your comment? You either come across as prideful or you're just admitting that you aren't a real man because you don't know what a real man is... You said things like "instead of just being a man" and "what a real man is" and I was just asking for clarity to understand your point of view. Anyone can say that the church is not teaching men to "to just be a man", and that the church isn't biblical in their application of "what a real man is". Anyone can make a claim/complaint, but so what? It doesn't matter unless you show a better way, because then you're just complaining and tearing down. You have nothing but complaints regarding the church of today, but you don't even bother to start a conversation about the solution, or what your "ideal" looks like. That's a little childish don't you think? Consider this hypothetical conversation: "This and that is wrong." "Okay, so what do you think is right?" "Only someone who is right knows what is right." -- See my point? I don't disagree with much of what you said in your original comment though, but your comments (although not insulting nor disrespectful) are childish in argument. If you think I'm wrong please let me know. I will happily admit I was wrong if you give me good reason to do so, but for now your comments have achieved nothing 🤷‍♂

That is true, but also vague and unhelpful.