With the passing of Kevin Conroy, it hurts me so much knowing that he won't ever be able to voice the iconic Batman character again. What an absolutely amazingly talented voice actor. He and Mark Hamill will always be Batman and Joker for me.

I agree with you on Robin being annoying. The first cutscene he started talking I felt like the other three would've looked at him and said "Shut up the adults are talking." Dude is like a superhero that gets his lunch money taken.

The reason that a stealth system isn't done well is because stealth gameplay gives the player the ability to take out enemies right away or entirely avoid the combat. neither of those options will ever lead to a player (especially a young or very bad player) feeling underpowered for an encounter and thus deciding to spend real money to get an advantage. They want it so THE ONLY advantage a struggling player feels they can get is through real world money that means that encounters have to be as straight forward as possible.

One of the most disappointing aspects of Gotham Knights is the unremarkable dialogue of the basic enemies, where as the basic enemies dialogue in the Arkham games (particularly Arkham City and ESPECIALLY Arkham Knight) were some of the most hilariously entertaining things I've ever heard in a game. It just made an already great game, even better.

No matter how much they tried to scrub it and hide it, the DNA of a live-service game still haunts the core design of this game. Avengers flopped so hard that they got scared and had to do a 180 and try to salvage this game into a Frankenstein 4 player coop grindfest. It's either that OR the direction for this game followed a design philosophy of "what standards should we meet?" instead of "is the game fun?"

It’s sad because this game had so much potential introducing people to the bat family and allowing them to feel powerful and resourceful as Batman.

I was shocked people actually thought it’d be a good game

I never actually finished this game, because of the lack of mid-game character switching and actual fucking checkpoints that practically any game with a singleplayer has. I was struggling as Robin in the last fight, and wanted to switch to any other character because their abilities and power was just better for the fight, but because I couldn't just switch mid-mission, I had to cancel the mission, switch to another character, go back to the mission's starting point, and then because of the lack of mission checkpoints, the game makes me restart the entire fucking mission. It's insane how no one thought this was horrible design. Speaking of Robin, it makes no sense why his stealth takedowns aren't any quicker than the others. I mean, isn't he supposed to be the stealth specialist? Why does he take the same 5 or 6 seconds as Batgirl, Nightwing and Jason? It's quite embarrassing how there are only three other case files to do (Harley, Freeze, Clayface), after doing them I thought: "is that it?". No Two Face, Killer Croc, Mad Hatter, or Bane? I have a prediction that they might end up selling cases for other villains in the future, either as a pack or individually, because there's no way they only thought of just three villain side cases when Arkham Knight had 8 (not including the militia stuff). Granted, most weren't very exciting and involved repetitive objectives, but they still made the effort of including other villains. The crafting side of things just seemed incredibly unnecessary and kinda arbitrary? The rarities didn't seem to affect much, at least in my playthrough, I found the components plentiful enough to be able to always craft the best gear when the option appears (perhaps this is different on the harder difficulty?). My idea would've been to get rid of crafting, and include gear in the chests you can find, which you can equip immediately rather than needing to go back to the belfry. The gear would have different effects, which can be good for certain situations against certain enemies and enemy types. Also, fuck the mods, just get rid of them. They're another pointless addition to try and make the system seem more deep than it actually is. Honestly, It baffles my mind why they would take inspiration from The Avengers game of all things, a game that wasn't received well, and was heavily flawed with its gameplay and systems. My comment is long enough, so I just wanna finish with a question: Why, in the batcycle customisation, does it look like there are other variations of the batcycle? Where it says "Interceptor", there are arrows indicating that there are possibly other models that can be unlocked, but through my playthrough I found no indication that there were

Honestly Lego games do a better handling of switching between characters with a AI that does stuff along with you during levels that can also be controlled by a real person in co-op I feel like Gotham knights could being fit with that and you may get select two characters on a mission or in the open world to play either with your friend or with a AI that you can hot-swap between with whenever you want except I guess cutscenes. I enjoyed the video and I hope the developers of this game and other learn from this mistakes of this game as well as the successes. Keep up the great work. :)

Gotham Knights is just bizarre from a design standpoint. Wtf were they thinking? Corporate disconnect at its finest.

This game 100% feels like it was meant to be a loot box filled live service game. By the time they realized they’d made the wrong choice, the train was full steam ahead. So things were pulled but never replaced and the game just feels so “meh”. Which is a real bummer. I love Gotham City. But we got Cleveland. (Sorry Ohio)

When even IGN the ultimate corporate shills give this a bad review you know something ain't right with it.

If it takes 9 years to make a game like this, a re-skin of Arkham knight would have been 100 times better, just like what they did with Arkham origins. It’s the greed behind the live service strategy that led to this game’s downfall.

I’ve noticed in recent media, it feels like dc has run out of batman stories to tell. Almost all modern “batman” stories (tv shows, games, etc.) are without batman. Arrowverse, gotham knights (the game and the show), titans, even suicide squad kill the justice league considering it’s a direct sequel to the arkham games. They all have one thing in common: they’re all post-batman “batman” stories. Idk why dc is trying so hard to push batman out of the spotlight. There’s a reason people love him so much, and constantly trying to replace him is a big mistake.

I’m glad I didn’t buy tbh

My biggest issue is actually the character designs. So red hood looks like a freaking gears of war character and nightwing( one of my favourite heroes) his face just looks terrible. Its not a good a game. But I can’t help but kind of like it.

I can forgive most issues in this game… however, what I cannot forgive is there being no Freeflow combat and no inverted takedowns. Even a game outside of the Arkhamverse can STILL have those things 🙄

On night 3, I leveled Nightwing up to level 15 and was just blowing through the side tasks. I went on to clear out the next night and did the first Harley Quinn mission. Went back out to night 5 or 6 and all enemies were either caught up to me or actually stronger at level 17 or 18 and then I realized what I just got myself into. A contstant grind with what seems to be the character action equivalent to opponent rubber banding in racing games.

So glad I didn’t buy it. You can defend it all you want but when the combat and gameplay is as dry as it is I don’t see no excuse for it.

Shoutout to Luke for putting his opinion of the subjects he covers clearly in the review. You know you deliver good content when you don't have to be cryptic in the title to get people to watch it. Keep it up!

Looks like I'll be applying to WB as a UI designer with zero experience.

Please do a video on Kena Bridge of Spirits. It's one of the most gorgeous looking indie games I have ever seen. It looks like a modern Disney animated movie. I got the platinum trophy for it, which I am very proud of

All the freakishly large women enemies are so weird to me…

would love to see a retrospective on Batman Arkham Origins

I think maybe the reason they all start out the same is so that you can swap to one whenever in the story and not be missing a necessary combat tool for whatever enemy. The issue with _that_ would be that that means it kinda hampers their ability to make enemies that have to be approached different with whichever characters.

I'm going to throw my two cents out on difficulty scaling, for a sec, adjusting enemy health bars is almost always a bad idea. It's one of the laziest approaches to game difficulty. Selective enemy mechanics (like the suggestion of increasing health but then giving them a vulnerability) isn't a terrible idea. It's probably slightly better to give enemies resistances or damage shields to specific damage types if you're really set on that path. However, I"ll maintain, the better solutions are scaling player damage received. Make the enemies hit harder, and punish mistakes. Even if your random trash mobs still go down in one or two hits, if they can body the player at the same speed, that puts a lot more pressure on the player. More mechanics is a more developmentally intensive approach, where enemies pick up new abilities and attacks on higher difficulties. As with the above suggestion, you can dramatically improve the player's experience, make the game harder, and still avoid turning everyone into a walking wall of meat. Additionally enemies per encounter. This one is a little more painful to balance, because simply adding an extra enemy doesn't always increase the difficulty in a linear pattern. Depending on the game, this can create some vicious difficulty spikes, but if those are walled off behind higher difficulties, that can create some really memorable (and potentially frustrating) challenges that a player won't experience on lower difficulties, Additional enemy types being gated by difficulty. Again, this is more developmentally intensive, and can probably be viewed as a variation of adding more enemies. When they're just pallet swaps of lower tier enemies with more HP, we're back to the lazy solution but this time with art assets. However, even at its most basic, this can result in higher difficulties feeling more memorable, as you start running into base difficulty minibosses as regular encounters. Finally, systemic changes. This is something you almost never see, which is a shame, because these can be really amazing when pulled off well. I'm specifically thinking of (ironically) Ubisoft's Breakpoint, where there were a lot of optional mechanics, like limiting the number of weapons a player could equip, restricting their ability to swap weapons out in the field, or causing them to lose unused rounds when reloading. The Witcher III has an example of this where healing is more difficult on the highest two difficulties. Even UI elements can be factored into this, with a lot of the visual indicators being turned off on higher difficulties (this was the case with the original Crysis, where higher difficulties would remove the hip-fire crosshairs, and eventually stop translating the Korean into English.) There are a lot of ways you can tune difficulty so that higher difficulty experiences are rewarding and extremely challenging, but far too often, the solution taken is, "nah, bro, just put a +800% health modifier on the enemies."

How many of us saw this coming from a mile away?

People tried so hard to defend because of POTENTIAL if potential was good enough I would of graduated college

I want my money back!! I'm so disappointed, I can't believe I spent 70€ on this.... The story was so predictable the gameplay: not fun, and the bat-family didn't feel like the bat-family at all. The loading screen every time I enter a building, a cinematic/mission start. -The structure of the missions are so repetitive, like; go in this place, fight against 10 enemy, go back into the belfry, new gear, interrogate 2 random thugs, go into this building; and repeat... The only good thing I can think of was the Clayface and Mr.Frezee side quest, (the car chase with Clayface in the city was pretty cool tho)

It's a bit of a bitpick but I really dislike how grappling just stops your momentum and you just float straight to the grappling point. It's so unsatisfying.

Gotham Knights still breaks my heart. Why did it have to be a completely unoptimized mess? Honestly I don't even know how they will be able to fix this game. Disappointing.

I gave this game a chance. I played the story and ng+ the game is so short and lifeless afterwards...its a shame, I had such high hopes but nothing is there. I want to love this game but it needs content and changes badly.

This game was a slap to the face to the Arkham games

I bought this game last week and I gotta say the story is really good the only thing I don’t like is the open world/grinding mechanics

16:12 This is the gameplay loop I was afraid of as the combat just looked too boring to carry the experience. It reminded me of the Division - get more gear to get better gear to get even better gear to get even even more better gear. But to its defense, every game contains an element of repetition but you make a good point that it’s the other gameplay variables/incentives that can overcome this loop. Sad this game couldn’t capitalize on those.

the bike looks so un fun and slow to drive.

This game is on sale on psn and it's still to much

I got into an argument with someone who actually said the combat was as good as arkham and had depth LOL

That Batcycle gameplay is giving me Nam flashbacks of Batman & Robin on the PS1.

Knew from the first preview that this was gonna be a $5 sale game

Robin in this game makes me wish for Damien Wayne.

We waited 7 years for a new Batman game and got this.. I wish Rocksteady would make another Batman game :(

Is this basically just DC’s version of the Avengers game?

Scott Snyder lied when he said the game's story was better than the court of owls comic

I’ve been replaying Batman Arkham Knight again for like the 7th time waiting for Callisto Protocol. And it’s not even funny how bad they dropped the ball on Gotham knights. I don’t even understand how you fuck up such a great idea. Leave superhero games to Insomniac and Rocksteady ONLY!!!

Load screens should be obsolete.

The things I'm disappointed about this game is that 1. It's NOT ON PS4 2. They gave Red Hood powers (HE HAS NO POWERS, SO WHY?!?!?!) 3. Tim and Jason's Hairstyles seem OFF 4. The lack of Villains

You are really doing a great job on every review I ever watched from your channel! I am very impressed of the way you are able to see all the good and the bad!! But most of all your ability to deliver that all to your viewers. I hope your side of view will find its way to many developers. Keep on going 🎉😊 best greetings from austria

Anyone else remember when Arkham Asylum came out? The first time playing it without any worries of political agendas or if it would be incomplete?

I’m a fan of Tim drake in the comics but I was really disappointed with how they did him In the game I get he was suppose to be only a few years in but still.

You can't be disappointed if you expected disappointment 🤷‍♂️

This game and saints row were games i predicted would be bad and flop. Sad to say I was right. Ubisoft has made open world games formulaic and these games have made that formula even more boring than something like the fields and mountains in Odyssey and Valhalla. How?

That cosmic fart though🤌

You cracked me up with Mick Jagger moves but it's an accurate description.

This game was.clearly made as a live service trying to mimic the Avengers. Then when that game flop, warner said "Quick, put a coop, let all the cosmetic we were.going to sell for free and make it single player" (in fact i remember reports a couple of years ago telling thr game was going to be a live service...). Now you have a single player game with coop with the grinding and the 50 diferent currrncies from the big live service games.

The casting for Batgirl is weird because not only are her lines not that impactful but the actress also has only voiced Barbie movies

I was expecting a trashy game and I think I got it right, lmfao.

One thing I'd love to see in a game with increase Dif level is weapon changes. The easy to medium, enemys may have melee or H2H type of attacks. Increase Dif and they get Guns. Or they go from wearing their standard cloths to wearing amor of some kind (Give reason for the increase in health) Hell Even having a dif character model for the BGs where they are visibally Stronger (not overly so tho. Like to an absurd level if that makes sense) So there is a visual rep that the characters now do more melee damage. etc

“Cosmically fart your way around the map” Suicide Squad took that statement serious and said “hold our beer”😂😂😂

I was so excited to go back to Gotham and an urban open world...but what broke the camel's back for me was the 30 fps cap. I'll try it out when, and if they raise it to 60 fps..... The major discount for Black Friday proves that things aren't going well for WB, hope they learn their lesson. The worst of it all is that news outlets are already predicting that a 30 fps cap on consoles is inevitable and necessary due to demands from next generation engines. That's BS, we're paying 70 bucks per game and profits have never been higher, technically it's super doable to provide performance mode on every AAA release.

WB Montreal's new craft doesn't even live up to their 2013 game's standards. No need to say more

A year ago I was hype for it. Then gameplay videos game out and my hype died more and more each time. All hype was gone by summer 22

Im on my 2nd playthrough right now. I am playing through the whole game on 1 character at a time so I see every cutscene with each character. The cutscenes with the outfits I make are one of my favoeite parts of the game.

it looked like a cheap cellphone game from the first trailer on

I enjoyed it, but it does have a lot of shortcomings, mainly in the end game. Progression is a bit shallow though. I did have fun.

my older brother really really wants to buy this, and im like, looking at trailers and commercials and was thinking, man this gonna flop

Not even worth the sale price I saw on Black Friday 🤣.

I know you’ve been waiting to bust out that title for a while, that’s a good one😂

Despite performance issues It’s supposed to be a different light hearted take of Bat Family story than darker story in Arkham series. Most combat does have good fun with full upgrades and with good coop. It’s not worth full price but it’s still alright good game not great Batman Arkham like everyone is comparing it to. Which the team said early they not using any Arkham game assets like they did with Arkham games and dlc, it’s they’re first game they tried to make on their own.

I have been gaming since the Atari 2600, I have owned every Console from Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, and Sega. Never had a game brick a console.

Dc finally caught up to the avengers

I’m glad I got it on Xbox… they gave me the fastest refund.

Luke I have to thank you man for your honest thoughts on Gotham Knights. After watching your past videos on Gotham Knights and watching other videos I decided not to buy this title since it’s $90 here in Australia. So Thank you man for your videos and honest opinions you truly helped me save me money. 😊

I knew this game was going to suck when the second trailer looked worse than the first one we got in 2019

Atleast Batgirl got a whole bakery going on.

i think there are some points here unfair imo, for example you talked about how theres no thinking about what effect and stuff like that to put on your charchter but there is, fire deals more damage to the regulator enemies and that will help a lot against those annyoing enemies, ice helps so much against the court of owls and makes fighting them so much easier, gotham knights was dissapointing for me like most people i just think a few points here are unfair.

Won't spent 70$ of my life and I'm so ashamed for it

Subbed. Thanks for putting out these videos, Luke. Like most, I'm just bummed this game is so milquetoast. I've been following updates on Steam and I'm sure they're working on a mega patch, but it's one of those too little too late situations for me. A lot of people think that once you've been disappointed in a release you can revisit later with lower expectations, but that's not the case. There's a newfound spite, disappointment, and skepticism that makes it even harder for a game to impress the player. I think your review was very unbiased and reasonable, but ultimately I'm not surprised you still landed on "lackluster." Try to think of a game that sucked on release, but you went back to weeks/months/years later and loved. You probably can't, right? Yeah. For me that game was Avengers. I tried multiple times but I gave less of a shit every time I went back to it despite the patches and noticeable improvements. I'll probably give this game a shot months or years from now when it's on sale and my gaming bros want a drunk co op experience, but even then? There will probably be better options.

Since the very first trailer I honestly felt it was Avengers all over again. That repetitive combat, lackluster story, and heroes who don't feel heroic at all. It's really sucks If this game had been half of what I wanted it to be it would've been amazing.

I was thinking ab buying this game. Thank you for the warning, new sub!

It’s more common for a video game to be trash than good. What happened to gaming

Why does Red Hood's mask looks like Deadpool's mask?

The baton glitch happened to me too 😂

the best of this review was when luke called the game mid

Gotham knights is the best thing for batman Arkham knight

I need a close up shot of that pyramiddd!! I love Ancient Egypttt

I saw it was ass from the first trailer/gameplay trailer (whatever it was lol) they released.. i saw avengers game all over it.. and that was enough for me. I really hope Hogwarts legacy is not influenced by this game and how they made it..

The worst part is this game is a huge graphical downgrade from Arkham Knight. A game from 2015-2016. Over 6 years ago. ... Wtf.

GOTHAM KNIGHTS - WORST GAME (of the bunch). Taking out the multiplier was a BIG MISTAKE and having to counter takes two buttons - what a joke. Red Hood is literally the worst of them all. The guy has guns and does 0.02 damage. Repetitive crimes, respawning every time. Crappy Batbike. There's so many other things, including the copy and paste combat.

My ps5: dying Luke Stephens: haha funny numchuck hands

I have been having alot of fun in this game my friend and I love bat man and the other games it is just awesome being able to play them as a team. My only gripe is that he is the group leader so during any cutscene it only shows his character. I am basically an invisible side character that doesn't exist to the villain we are tag teaming. It just seems like such a missed opportunity. Like your characters will banter along in the mission but the second a cutscene triggers it's as if I was never there

I was planning on getting a next gen console for Gotham knights, glad I saw this review

The standard for releasing games seems to have rapidly declined in the last 6 years.

I know it is weird, but every time I watch a critique..... I kind of want to go back and play these games

And OMG this bloody batbike has a max speed of a golfcart. It's so annoying and you can't really upgrade it to anything

The ending of this game was the dumbest thing ever

"Gotham knights was one of the biggest disappointments of 2022" I don't think that's true. A lot of disappointment happened in 2022 and how Gotham Knights turned out was easily predictable.

Figuring out a way to get this to run at 60 frames, and fix characters getting stuck on walls and objects would go a long way to improving the combat. The fact this doesn't have a lock on for enemies is bizarre. Right now the 30 frames really hurts the game play. Input lag is so bad and it hurts the combat. The game is bad but there are some things that could be done to greatly improve it.

My new favorite channel keep up the great work! You are the most honest youtuber 🎉❤

i actually liked this game :(