The Worst Chess Game Mathematically Possible

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GothamChess

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11 ай бұрын

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@whynot5708
@whynot5708 11 ай бұрын
Ok very funny Levy, taking one of my chess games and calling it “ the worst possible chess game mathematically”
@spirosgoussis9717
@spirosgoussis9717 11 ай бұрын
really?
@captainvyom463
@captainvyom463 11 ай бұрын
​@@spirosgoussis9717 (real)
@Fck_the_atf
@Fck_the_atf 11 ай бұрын
“Levi”
@aghilas2299
@aghilas2299 11 ай бұрын
I thought it was mine 😂😂
@wNiko.
@wNiko. 11 ай бұрын
who is levi
@wsenay6717
@wsenay6717 11 ай бұрын
The mate in *27* with the three knights is the greatest thing stockfish has provided anyone ever
@paulvanzyl2385
@paulvanzyl2385 11 ай бұрын
you missed the mate in 50 at the end lol
@sethwooldridge9026
@sethwooldridge9026 11 ай бұрын
There's a mate in 40 15:17
@theseer2626
@theseer2626 11 ай бұрын
at 17:00 there is a frame with mate in 50 lol
@pawn4
@pawn4 11 ай бұрын
there was a mate in 9223372036854775807 moves
@pawn4
@pawn4 11 ай бұрын
@@theseer2626 16:50 too
@toby1248
@toby1248 3 ай бұрын
Some of these moves are so deep that not only do they blunder mate, they prevent the opponent from blundering mate too
@2complex43
@2complex43 Ай бұрын
Time for "excellent" blunders
@BacsarugoCringeMaker
@BacsarugoCringeMaker Ай бұрын
Brilliant blunder
@_Gam3r
@_Gam3r Ай бұрын
uno reverse brilliant
@ghostcat5303
@ghostcat5303 19 күн бұрын
'???'
@imkingnoobuwu4326
@imkingnoobuwu4326 5 күн бұрын
!!!??!!!!!​@@ghostcat5303
@BadlyDrawnJack
@BadlyDrawnJack 8 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="914">15:14</a> The fact that the estimation bar found that this position was mate in 40 is astonishing.
@Tenshi122
@Tenshi122 7 ай бұрын
It's because after queen takes queen there are only 7 pieces left and stockfish probably had access to an endgame tablebase for 7 pieces.
@19o_19
@19o_19 5 ай бұрын
i was boutta comment this
@Roblox-Transportation
@Roblox-Transportation 5 ай бұрын
I was going to comment this!
@fawzanulhaque483
@fawzanulhaque483 3 ай бұрын
That mate is easy. Like you just need to take queen and all horses and then Queen mate hoping that it would not be draw by 50- move rule. Only if White played best move it would take 40 moves but no computer other than few can play best move for 40 moves straight.
@cryptar
@cryptar 2 ай бұрын
16:18 mate in 45
@aakarshdeepak31
@aakarshdeepak31 11 ай бұрын
Petition to start an anti chess championship
@rage2904
@rage2904 11 ай бұрын
Antichess is already a variant on Lichess. The premise is that if you CAN capture you MUST capture. First player to run out of moves wins.
@snoozy04
@snoozy04 11 ай бұрын
😀
@emiel04
@emiel04 11 ай бұрын
@@rage2904 well then we call it something else
@jbarnes6570
@jbarnes6570 11 ай бұрын
chess needs a version where you gain points for losing each piece and you win by getting checkmated
@JigsawLV
@JigsawLV 11 ай бұрын
As a kid I used to play poddavki with my father, it was basically anti-checkers, trying to be first to give all the pieces away
@MistaOppritunity
@MistaOppritunity 11 ай бұрын
My favorite part was when Levy said that he wasn't going to reiterate that this was the worst possible move every move then proceeded to reiterate that this was the worst possible move every move.
@FoxSlyme
@FoxSlyme 11 ай бұрын
I guess that was the worst possible move by Levy 😁
@Human..Being...
@Human..Being... 11 ай бұрын
When a chess game is that bad, it's hard to not mention it. At least it went faster than my chess games, at one move every 2 minutes.
@Some_Sandich
@Some_Sandich 10 ай бұрын
My favorite part was when he said it’s reiterating time and reiterated all over the place
@whirl
@whirl 10 ай бұрын
@@Some_Sandichambata-reiterate
@esatziyadonmez1291
@esatziyadonmez1291 6 ай бұрын
999th like
@kjn3350
@kjn3350 6 ай бұрын
I like how this game actually looks more like an actual battle than a chess game, what with all the chaos and pawns in No-man's land, essentially sending the game full circle back to what it was originally trying to replicate.
@Spaizman
@Spaizman 3 ай бұрын
Battle of Verdun colorized
@Dexuz
@Dexuz 3 ай бұрын
Love me some actual battles where the king is completely surrounded by enemy troops.
@SubwaySurfer15
@SubwaySurfer15 2 ай бұрын
3 moves in and there’s checkmate😂
@user-br2ui4hy1f
@user-br2ui4hy1f 6 ай бұрын
Martin: finally, a worthy opponent
@Imjustaguy76510
@Imjustaguy76510 2 ай бұрын
Our battle will be legendary!
@TahaShakir2
@TahaShakir2 Ай бұрын
the only time/way martin can beat stockfich (technically he would be better since he has 250 elo and mathematically, the worst elo possible is 100)
@The_R3al_Spike
@The_R3al_Spike 11 ай бұрын
A massive thanks to the eval bar for doing all that hard work
@davidthecommenter
@davidthecommenter 11 ай бұрын
bro was doing pull ups
@mhmmmhmm3554
@mhmmmhmm3554 11 ай бұрын
@@davidthecommenter and squats
@seanstoltz6957
@seanstoltz6957 11 ай бұрын
Bro was doing a warm up bench at 500 lbs
@pinkshortcomedy
@pinkshortcomedy 11 ай бұрын
yoo 669th like here
@Blinkers2007GameDev
@Blinkers2007GameDev 11 ай бұрын
@@davidthecommenter muscle ups 20 in a row
@user-ht1vg5we2p
@user-ht1vg5we2p 11 ай бұрын
Suggestion: since both engines are playing the worst moves based on standard evaluation, they are blundering mates but the opponent is not checkmating them. This is because they still evaluate under the assumption that, in the future, both will play the best moves. Instead, we could also change the evaluation algorithm, so that they do indeed assume both sides will always play the worst move possible. This way, instead of playing moves that make no progress for either side, they will actively be trying to lose, making moves that force their opponent to play something good. For example, a queen chasing a king around the board trying to force him to take her or other similar things would be hilarious
@bernhardbrodowsky3261
@bernhardbrodowsky3261 11 ай бұрын
Isn't that just a bot that's really good at anti chess then?
@itsArridian
@itsArridian 11 ай бұрын
This is beautiful. AN anti-chess wizard bot
@itsArridian
@itsArridian 11 ай бұрын
@@bernhardbrodowsky3261 But in anti-chess ALL captures are forced, in this that would not be the case
@rafaelgabrielgarlinidal-bo9496
@rafaelgabrielgarlinidal-bo9496 11 ай бұрын
not yet an anti chess bot tho. Captures are forced in anti, so the "stockfish" of anti chess has to set up the best forced capture chain for the opponent to be trapped in.
@trout3685
@trout3685 11 ай бұрын
That's what I was hoping for. I was wondering why white didn't say her queen with check and force black to take it.
@Taib-Atte
@Taib-Atte 5 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="248">4:08</a> "RE-BLUNDERING checkmate" is crazy
@koyacrab
@koyacrab 12 күн бұрын
am i tripping or even black is blundering? black can take the white queen w its knight no?
@SG2048-meta
@SG2048-meta 11 күн бұрын
@@koyacrabit’s white’s turn. black could have taken the queen with the knight but didn’t so white could checkmate
@FryanGosling
@FryanGosling 8 ай бұрын
Martin will still find a way to fumble this one.
@Lakshya_Plays_Minecraft
@Lakshya_Plays_Minecraft 11 ай бұрын
I can finally say i play like stockfish thank you gotham ❤️
@San-chifuyu_devrishi
@San-chifuyu_devrishi 11 ай бұрын
Why aren't u continuing ur series on ur channel
@ajayshirode1630
@ajayshirode1630 11 ай бұрын
☠️☠️
@adhamsherif6230
@adhamsherif6230 11 ай бұрын
if anyone could actually play that bad they would be a fucking GM
@thehunterwr4666
@thehunterwr4666 11 ай бұрын
​@@Theindiananimefan681🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
@maddoxmonteza
@maddoxmonteza 11 ай бұрын
LMAO
@acoolhotdog
@acoolhotdog 11 ай бұрын
Imagine being a horsey, hearing that stockfish promoted to you 5 times, and realizing what actually happened
@FancyHalcyon
@FancyHalcyon 11 ай бұрын
"There are 4 horses grazing on the outskirts of the farmland" really got me xD
@vexof-carter9203
@vexof-carter9203 11 ай бұрын
Lol apparently i just learned the weakest of the major pieces
@Murimz
@Murimz 11 ай бұрын
​@@vexof-carter9203 howd you just learn that its like the first thing one learns lmfao
@huh968
@huh968 11 ай бұрын
@@vexof-carter9203 depends, in closed games the bishop is the worst major piece
@diamante8864
@diamante8864 10 ай бұрын
The worst possible move :(
@jezixthepro
@jezixthepro 2 ай бұрын
The spider at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="870">14:30</a> was so important Levy had to stop talking about the 4 horses
@TahaShakir2
@TahaShakir2 Ай бұрын
bro had to divert his attention away from content, that's crazy
@Roblox-Transportation
@Roblox-Transportation 5 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="970">16:10</a> The fact that a 87 ADVANTAGE even exists is CRAZY!
@Imjustaguy76510
@Imjustaguy76510 2 ай бұрын
Me playing any EA made game without donate and my enemy (who donated) goes like :87 ADVANTAGE
@TahaShakir2
@TahaShakir2 Ай бұрын
Ive had a 112 advantage once XD
@Roblox-Transportation
@Roblox-Transportation Ай бұрын
@@TahaShakir2 wat.
@anomaliecosmos
@anomaliecosmos 11 ай бұрын
"Re-blundering checkmate" is such a powerful phrase. And oddly perfectly describes my life
@probablypeenuts
@probablypeenuts 10 ай бұрын
270 likes and no comments? we can fix that
@plushiewolf222
@plushiewolf222 10 ай бұрын
lemme add more comments
@plushiewolf222
@plushiewolf222 10 ай бұрын
2nd
@probablypeenuts
@probablypeenuts 10 ай бұрын
more comments
@Xenek.
@Xenek. 9 ай бұрын
MORE!
@unb3lievable
@unb3lievable 11 ай бұрын
Imagine looking at the game review and seeing you had 100 blunders
@mattgarcia7513
@mattgarcia7513 11 ай бұрын
45 inaccuracies, 71 mistakes, 100 blunders, 23 missed wins, 3 misdemeanors and a felony
@HC-jo7lq
@HC-jo7lq 10 ай бұрын
@@mattgarcia7513 don’t forget the 3 war crimes
@joefawcett2191
@joefawcett2191 10 ай бұрын
@@WarriorOfAIIah wtf dude
@thatdude9091
@thatdude9091 10 ай бұрын
@@Greatness202 8,000,000 civilian deaths 1000,000,000 acres of farmland salted and burnt 80% of freshwater supplies poisoned
@S.sChaeos
@S.sChaeos 10 ай бұрын
​@thatdude9091 OK sir, are you gonna start the Fourth Reich? Can I join?
@tit0313
@tit0313 8 ай бұрын
The game graph must look like a heart attack
@samthorne3765
@samthorne3765 7 ай бұрын
Took me until the very end of the video to figure out the premise that Stockfish was LITERALLY programmed to make the worst move possible!. Really wish you'd said it 140 more times so that I hadn't missed that :(
@EEEEEEEE
@EEEEEEEE 4 ай бұрын
E
@B16Dominoes
@B16Dominoes 3 ай бұрын
E
@Rocksbythethird
@Rocksbythethird 3 ай бұрын
E
@froxdoggaming3385
@froxdoggaming3385 3 ай бұрын
F
@Dexuz
@Dexuz 3 ай бұрын
:(
@enderking_13
@enderking_13 11 ай бұрын
Levy: * goes on a whole separate adventure making an entirely different game * Also levy:” *But that didn’t happen* “
@shadowplaxianthgaming3694
@shadowplaxianthgaming3694 10 ай бұрын
Bros pulling out an entire What If? episode on our asses on a chess video
@liam.28
@liam.28 8 ай бұрын
me watching the video following the moves when it gets set 20 moves back
@thebcwonder4850
@thebcwonder4850 8 ай бұрын
You should see his video on beating a cheater, bro pulled a Dr. Strange for every move he did during a blitz game
@formigant
@formigant 4 ай бұрын
i just paused the video to look at the comments and just when i unpaused he said it, fucking hilarious
@adodge2
@adodge2 11 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to find the worst possible move, knowing that the opponent was also trying to find the worst possible move. So, not just moves that hang pieces, but moves that force the opponent to make good moves. That would actually be anti-chess, and might even be an interesting game.
@jajajjajajjajjajajajaja
@jajajjajajjajjajajajaja 10 ай бұрын
"anti-chess" I LOVE THAT CONCEPT
@whoknows1520
@whoknows1520 10 ай бұрын
@@jajajjajajjajjajajajaja it's an actual game mode that exists, not just a concept
@rohangeorge712
@rohangeorge712 8 ай бұрын
trying to force ur other opponent to checkmate you lmao, and a draw remains a draw. thats actually so funny
@aashd9245
@aashd9245 8 ай бұрын
​@@whoknows1520r/woooosh
@gulgaffel
@gulgaffel 8 ай бұрын
​@@aashd9245get out.
@PantsEzTbh
@PantsEzTbh 9 ай бұрын
“I think drunk stockfish when programmed to lose, just really likes ponies.” Dude that line made me laugh hysterically.
@athalean
@athalean Ай бұрын
The actual game is the intense ping-pong match that's going on in the evaluation bar.
@Retribution5618
@Retribution5618 11 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1016">16:56</a> stockfish calculating and seeing a mate in 50, and also there being an -87 point advantage is just incredible.
@dripcolors8756
@dripcolors8756 11 ай бұрын
yea, I love it when if black lost 87 pawns, it would've been a draw.
@drenz1523
@drenz1523 11 ай бұрын
"mate in 50" mfs when 50 move rule
@looming_lawsuit
@looming_lawsuit 11 ай бұрын
​@@drenz1523 bro doesn't know how 50 move rule works
@Imaha
@Imaha 11 ай бұрын
well actually, with 7 or less pieces on the board its mathmatically solved so stockfish just has to check the database and run the position, that means and position with 7 or less pieces has been solved including this one and it just memorizes the forced mates.
@drenz1523
@drenz1523 11 ай бұрын
@@Imaha fun fact stockfish sometimes doesnt actually check the database
@GregorDWScott
@GregorDWScott 11 ай бұрын
I wonder how the calculations would change if Stockfish knew the opponent would try to play the worst move too. Like hanging your Queen is bad, but if you know the opponent isn't going to take it then is there a worse move?
@e-cap1239
@e-cap1239 11 ай бұрын
The strategy would be to get into a position where you force the enemy king to capture your pieces
@mcd4984
@mcd4984 11 ай бұрын
I thought about that too, moves like Qxb5+ at 6:43 are probably the worst since they force the queen to be lost
@19reficul
@19reficul 11 ай бұрын
**HORSE FIESTA INTENSIFIES**
@asj3419
@asj3419 11 ай бұрын
Conceptually, making stockfish do this would be very easy, just take the evaluation function (which gets the advantage score for each board) and just add a minus sign so that it just negates the score it gets. Because the same function is used for both stockfish and its opponent, this would mean that it should also simulate the opponent wanting to do the worst possible move. This honesty sounds like the easiest way to properly make a bad version of stockfish. (There is probably more to it than that, though) We do not know exactly what was done to stockfish in the submitted game (it having solved any version of chess is clickbait), a bad-at-being-worst version would be if it just picked the worst evaluated move from a normal version of stockfish. If a move is evidently bad enough right-of-the-bat, normal stockfish would just stop looking through how a opponent could respond, meaning it wouldn't actually know which one of the worst moves is actually the worst one.
@hanjiplayer
@hanjiplayer 11 ай бұрын
If this game was programmed by reversing minimax into maximin, stocktish does know the opponent will try to play the worst move. I dont think it was however, it looks like he took the list of moves stockfish generated from a standard minimax or negemax algorithm and just picked the worst one
@polarperson
@polarperson 7 ай бұрын
Take a shot every time he says "literally"
@__8120
@__8120 8 ай бұрын
The fact that you didn't show the eval graph for this match is absolutely criminal
@1e1001
@1e1001 10 ай бұрын
bar on the left became a turn indicator
@Sivaramachandran971
@Sivaramachandran971 Ай бұрын
😂
@vitaly5297
@vitaly5297 11 ай бұрын
Petition to make a second version of the worst game possible, but both sides must play the worst move that doesn’t blunder a forced checkmate
@MarcelAndrian
@MarcelAndrian 11 ай бұрын
second worst move
@janogruby1086
@janogruby1086 11 ай бұрын
it would just be a draw
@Idk-hg8jr
@Idk-hg8jr 11 ай бұрын
@@janogruby1086 chess, when played perfectly, ends in a draw
@sqrti8825
@sqrti8825 11 ай бұрын
'Worst moves that don't blunder a mate' is synonymous to 'best moves', provided that chess is a draw with best play.
@vitovitovito4927
@vitovitovito4927 11 ай бұрын
​@@sqrti8825 they are talking about making the worst moves that don't show a "M" in the eval
@kazii_the_avali
@kazii_the_avali 7 ай бұрын
i would love a worstfish+martin vs worstfish+martin each one taking turns playing a move.
@Micha-Hil
@Micha-Hil 8 ай бұрын
this is like a slide whistle going back and forth
@poto744
@poto744 11 ай бұрын
I swear it's hilarious to just see the bar change from whos winning just change every single move
@devdecker7812
@devdecker7812 11 ай бұрын
That happens in normal games too! I’ve seen some wacky back and forth bars lol
@aspect359
@aspect359 11 ай бұрын
@@devdecker7812 skill issue
@devdecker7812
@devdecker7812 11 ай бұрын
@@aspect359 not gonna happen as much with people though, stockfish is a computer and you can guarantee each move will do that if it’s programmed to
@devdecker7812
@devdecker7812 11 ай бұрын
@@aspect359 I’m rated 712 and still going up I’m not too bad better than the average person right now
@arneshpal7702
@arneshpal7702 11 ай бұрын
​@@devdecker7812 skill issue
@Skeletonizer1200
@Skeletonizer1200 11 ай бұрын
You should do one where you force stockfish at its highest to play 10 worst possible moves and then try to win.
@PMA65537
@PMA65537 11 ай бұрын
They'd call it Magnusfish.
@truetex8398
@truetex8398 11 ай бұрын
If you play the worst possible moves against a normal opponent you are checkmated in 2 moves
@ardaehi
@ardaehi 11 ай бұрын
any player can win against worstfish in 3 moves since it enables you to make fools mate
@fR33Sky
@fR33Sky 11 ай бұрын
I say we post Magnus-Stockfish under each and every video until it happens!
@1.4142
@1.4142 11 ай бұрын
It would be fools mate
@krugerstan
@krugerstan Ай бұрын
It really wasn't 100% clear, but I kept getting hints that the engine was programmed to play the worst possible move.
@obnoxas
@obnoxas 3 ай бұрын
I did not consider how painful this would be to watch. This is art.
@peytonwilliams3113
@peytonwilliams3113 11 ай бұрын
It's ultra-surprising that the "worst move" was sometimes to take a piece. It seems like just any waiting move would generally be worse than winning material.
@MikeJones-vk3wz
@MikeJones-vk3wz 11 ай бұрын
a lot of those cases involved hanging a more valuable piece in the process. Like using a queen to capture a defended pawn.
@shadowmil
@shadowmil 11 ай бұрын
You will eventually run out of waiting moves.
@Raugturi
@Raugturi 11 ай бұрын
It's because it isn't just purely the "worst move" in a vacuum. It's the "worst move given the assumption (which is incorrect in this case) that your opponent will play their best move". If you programmed it to anticipate the opponent doing the same thing then it would find a different set of worst moves, since it would want to favor outcomes that limit the opponent's bad moves. That would probably involve a lot more waiting moves rather than taking pieces.
@finnfreudenberg5568
@finnfreudenberg5568 11 ай бұрын
There are multiple worst moves sometimes, in case the enemy has mate in 1. In these cases it's quite likely a random worst move gets chosen which can also be taking a piece since it doesn't make a difference for stockfish.
@adolfflopper8577
@adolfflopper8577 11 ай бұрын
It werent actually the worst moves, because most of taking was made when both sides were hanging M1, so it didnt really matter what move will the stockfish make as long as it will still be M1.
@samtheman123
@samtheman123 11 ай бұрын
The fact that it makes plans to set up making the worst possible moves is actually impressive
@lukasg4807
@lukasg4807 11 ай бұрын
It doesn't seem to know the opponent wants the same thing though. It should play to force the opponent to take its queen
@joefawcett2191
@joefawcett2191 10 ай бұрын
@@lukasg4807 would literally take an entire reprogramming of everything thats been done so far
@user-dh8oi2mk4f
@user-dh8oi2mk4f 9 ай бұрын
@@joefawcett2191 Not necessarily. If you negate all leaf values from the search(i.e. a mate in the future gets counted as a loss, being mated counts as a win, winning a queen is losing, etc.) then all you really need to change is the evaluation function.
@vaclavjebavy5118
@vaclavjebavy5118 8 ай бұрын
jokes on you I set that up without even trying
@the_cheese_cultist
@the_cheese_cultist 8 ай бұрын
​@@joefawcett2191you literally just need to negate the evaluation function.
@WesAndRuss
@WesAndRuss 8 ай бұрын
They should do a tournament of this. Worst average centipawn loss per turn wins until a set number of turns has passed, and they play known openings to make the games different (openings don’t count towards score)
@GGGyes4764
@GGGyes4764 9 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="525">8:45</a> - Levy went hikaru
@Rizller69
@Rizller69 11 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="871">14:31</a> Levy can commentate a chess game and notice there’s a spider on the wall at the same time thats just how good he is
@thewierdragonbaby4843
@thewierdragonbaby4843 11 ай бұрын
lol
@flamedheat
@flamedheat 11 ай бұрын
levy
@egorzhdanov6145
@egorzhdanov6145 11 ай бұрын
Meanwhile me in the same situation: お前はもう死んでいる。 Spider: 何?
@whannabi
@whannabi 11 ай бұрын
​@@egorzhdanov6145 why are you writing in Japanese here bud'
@egorzhdanov6145
@egorzhdanov6145 11 ай бұрын
@@whannabi Transcription: [omai wa mō shinde ru] [nani] Translation: - You already dead. - What?
@RizaBochiza
@RizaBochiza 11 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="738">12:18</a> Can we take a moment to appreciate how all of the pieces are avoiding the centre of the board like the plague?
@runic3063
@runic3063 10 ай бұрын
Meanwhile that one pawn on d3:
@ezracohen6020
@ezracohen6020 10 ай бұрын
@@runic3063 who do you think has the plague, they are avoiding that pawn for a reason
@SaculxYT
@SaculxYT 10 ай бұрын
15:19 mate in 40
@The-Person-Who-Asked
@The-Person-Who-Asked 10 ай бұрын
even more so at 14:30
@wasifchowdhury2004
@wasifchowdhury2004 9 ай бұрын
The opposite of "try to control the center"
@migueldias9651
@migueldias9651 7 ай бұрын
Interestingly, it always plays the worst move considering an opponent who plays to win, like how it takes pieces to allow checkmate when the opponent won't even play it. I wonder if it's possible to program or modificate an engine to play for a loss against another one who plays for a loss, that would be insane to watch
@MohitKumar-dn1pm
@MohitKumar-dn1pm 6 ай бұрын
Mathematically, White played better.
@bgfancommunity
@bgfancommunity 11 ай бұрын
MrBeast: Finally a worthy opponent
@Aurelius_Imperator
@Aurelius_Imperator 11 ай бұрын
😂
@jeffreybezos7765
@jeffreybezos7765 11 ай бұрын
Dang
@LedionZogaj
@LedionZogaj 11 ай бұрын
Lol
@poetrywithbennit
@poetrywithbennit 11 ай бұрын
True
@alextersaOnTwitch
@alextersaOnTwitch 11 ай бұрын
Why you everywhere
@sacul7766
@sacul7766 11 ай бұрын
I like the part when Levi explains that stockfish is playing the worst possible move instead of the best possible move
@SomeRandomDude821
@SomeRandomDude821 8 ай бұрын
LITERALLY the worst possible move
@lunatheluma3804
@lunatheluma3804 8 ай бұрын
Im unclear, is stockfish playin the best possible move here? Video should make it obvious
@matturban9077
@matturban9077 7 ай бұрын
I like the part where he shows the next 13 moves each side can make after every single move
@thibaud1832
@thibaud1832 2 ай бұрын
I had Mythbusters flashback.
@elliotloranger437
@elliotloranger437 8 ай бұрын
I love how the endgame devolved into "Three Blind Knights."
@gr.4380
@gr.4380 5 ай бұрын
as someone that doesn't play chess, it makes me feel a lot better knowing that I didn't even see most of these moves as options
@themarushin
@themarushin 11 ай бұрын
Levy should show the "analyze stats" at the end to see the accuracy and the number of bad and worst moves done
@averyb4250
@averyb4250 11 ай бұрын
Mistakes and blunders?
@condude2464
@condude2464 11 ай бұрын
"102 blunders"
@soogers
@soogers 11 ай бұрын
Coach Bizarre Game - You and your Opponent are total scumbags, Both of you should get one braincell.
@Pantopam
@Pantopam 11 ай бұрын
The accuracy will probably be a face. Know that episode in the "How to lose at chess" playlist? 😂
@dry90125
@dry90125 11 ай бұрын
Seeing the 3 knights lined up was possibly the most cursed chess thing I’ve ever seen in my life
@Animation_neo
@Animation_neo 4 ай бұрын
5
@SuddenFinch6614
@SuddenFinch6614 Ай бұрын
Only bot I can beat
@McKenziejay26
@McKenziejay26 2 ай бұрын
This feels like 2 people are arguing to let the other person win
@decubing3111
@decubing3111 11 ай бұрын
This is an interesting idea but it would be better if stockfish could calculate knowing the opponent will choose the worst move himself!
@Dan42069
@Dan42069 11 ай бұрын
This is what I was thinking!
@cthonianmessiah
@cthonianmessiah 11 ай бұрын
Agreed, I think that the game would look quite different if both sides were trying to prevent the opponent from having any losing moves.
@stealthemoon8899
@stealthemoon8899 11 ай бұрын
Ooh
@MyNameIsEarl-os7hg
@MyNameIsEarl-os7hg 11 ай бұрын
I had the same idea but you explained it better than me. I was thinking to make it play to try to force the opponent to win with checkmate, if that's even possible
@ashwinnaidoo796
@ashwinnaidoo796 11 ай бұрын
Yes there were times where white could force the black king to take it and same with the black Queen and white king
@qazzaqstan
@qazzaqstan 11 ай бұрын
The <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="300">5:00</a> is one of the more interesting parts of the game imo. With the queen already hanging the absolute worst thing to do is entomb your own pieces so they cannot join in the attack on the king, while weakening your light squares to ensure the king has the maximum number of escape routes. It is weirdly instructional in a way.
@midn8588
@midn8588 11 ай бұрын
I also find it funny how in the lategame, it found promoting to a knight to be frequently one of the worst moves since it removes your ability to promote to a queen
@5thearth
@5thearth 7 ай бұрын
I could see this being a fun human game, where each player adds up their advantage/disadvantage for each move over the course of a set number of moves, and whoever has the cumulative worst total at the end wins.
@adamaviation6236
@adamaviation6236 8 ай бұрын
"Not like that, not like.. that"
@UpperChores
@UpperChores 11 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="979">16:19</a> connect 3 knight variation, first time to ever happen POG
@avroarrow1528
@avroarrow1528 10 ай бұрын
I’m sadistically wondering if you did this with mismatched engines what would happen. Would the stronger engine succeed in losing more efficiently?
@inviikai2694
@inviikai2694 4 ай бұрын
Dang it now I wanna know too
@WhoTookQuwhu
@WhoTookQuwhu 2 ай бұрын
Anything that isn't worstfish regardless of it's ELO strength would win
@LiteraIIy_Nobody
@LiteraIIy_Nobody 8 күн бұрын
I find it interesting that a capture would be the worst possible move this often. I know that there are many positions where capturing would be the worst move, but I had no idea that it would come up this often.
@goldencheeze
@goldencheeze 8 ай бұрын
Chess, but it’s a cold war and nobody actually wants to fight each other, and everybody has an obsession with horses
@JackBond1234
@JackBond1234 11 ай бұрын
I'd like to see an AI that chooses the most losing move with the assumption that the opponent is trying to lose first. They'd probably find ways to compel the opponent to mate them, such as by checking the opponent where their only valid move is to mate back
@EEEEEEEE
@EEEEEEEE 4 ай бұрын
E
@stephanedegremont4961
@stephanedegremont4961 3 ай бұрын
Or they would play the longest game ever (assuming that they would avoid position repetition)
@freyamiles3718
@freyamiles3718 11 ай бұрын
"I'm not going to remind you every turn it's playing the worst move possible every turn" proceeds to do it every over turn
@reshuram4353
@reshuram4353 7 ай бұрын
well he technically wasn't lying; he did indeed not do it every turn
@Jordan-ud4qv
@Jordan-ud4qv 2 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="403">6:43</a> is a perfect example of worstfish’s flaws. If it was a person who knew they were playing a bot told to loose and they wanted to play the move that would end with themselves in a worse position they would take b4 with the queen and force the king or bishop to take it
@BrooksMoses
@BrooksMoses 2 ай бұрын
Yes! It's playing for the position that it's hardest to win from, rather than the position that it's easiest to force a loss from.
@edmondwentzel482
@edmondwentzel482 7 ай бұрын
It is interesting how all the pieces avoid the center proving it is where you want to be.
@10kirneh
@10kirneh 11 ай бұрын
Take a shot every time Levy reminds us that the engines are playing the worst possible moves.
@gab___.
@gab___. 11 ай бұрын
ahsjssks,,slla,s.ospa;
@DarkGamer-sx7gp
@DarkGamer-sx7gp 11 ай бұрын
I’m a child 😐
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 11 ай бұрын
Not trying to die of alcohol poisoning tonight!
@pride1069
@pride1069 11 ай бұрын
I was really hoping you were going to show the M39 with the 3 knights lol
@noped3079
@noped3079 11 ай бұрын
27*
@kazuro3949
@kazuro3949 11 ай бұрын
i wanted to see the mate in 40
@StraightEdgeZap
@StraightEdgeZap 11 ай бұрын
my engine showed m28 as follows: 1. kxf3 kb4 2. nc2+ kc5 3. nc7 kd6 4. nde6 ke5 5. ne3 kf6 6. ke4 kg6 7. ncd5 kf7 8. kf5 ke8 9. ke5 kd7 10. ndc7 kc6 11. ned5 kd7 12. nd4 kc8 13. kd6 kb8 14. kc6 kc8 15. nde6 kb8 16. nb6 ka7 17. nc5 kb8 18. n5a6+ ka7 19. nc8# the checkmate position is with the knights on a6, c7, and c8, white king on c6, black king on a7
@memeisneed
@memeisneed 11 ай бұрын
@@StraightEdgeZap 🤓
@dhruvacharya-wx4bj
@dhruvacharya-wx4bj 11 ай бұрын
@@StraightEdgeZap thanks this changed my life
@brinefilopolski33
@brinefilopolski33 Ай бұрын
This could become a chess variant Chess but you have to lose and check when ever you can
@yanneldor
@yanneldor 8 ай бұрын
I thought for a second for sure it was a 200 vs 200 elo
@AbsoluteGaming_
@AbsoluteGaming_ 11 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="551">9:11</a> bro think's he's hikaru💀
@joep2999
@joep2999 11 ай бұрын
There should be another edition of this where stockfish knows the opponent is going to pick the worst response, and picks the worst move with that in mind. Instead of attempting to blunder the game assuming the opponent is going to be reasonable, each side will be trying to force the opponent to win against their will.
@MorbiusBlueBalls
@MorbiusBlueBalls 8 ай бұрын
"a perfectly played bad game is always a draw"
@bleack8701
@bleack8701 7 ай бұрын
When both players are threatened to lose the game "or else"
@benjamintwombley1193
@benjamintwombley1193 11 ай бұрын
Another great example of how chess played perfectly is a draw.
@TheChosenOne20100
@TheChosenOne20100 11 ай бұрын
But white got checkmated wdym...
@lzk4891
@lzk4891 11 ай бұрын
@@TheChosenOne20100 the bots were programmed to end the game in endgame so that a draw doesnt happen
@benjamintwombley1193
@benjamintwombley1193 11 ай бұрын
@@TheChosenOne20100 yes but he said that if they continued to play the worst moves it would be adraw obviously
@nunyabusiness9699
@nunyabusiness9699 11 ай бұрын
This should be a part of game review along with Great moves and Brilliant moves, like a triple question mark that says you played the worst possible move in that position.
@davidthecommenter
@davidthecommenter 11 ай бұрын
(?!?) Throw
@Shilpa_Kujur
@Shilpa_Kujur 11 ай бұрын
Ever heard of a.......blunder?
@boaz5898
@boaz5898 11 ай бұрын
@@Shilpa_Kujur not every blunder is the worst possible move he’s saying a blunder so bad you couldn’t make a move that was worse
@Shilpa_Kujur
@Shilpa_Kujur 11 ай бұрын
@@boaz5898 That I get, but the triple question mark is literally the symbol of a blunder.
@baboolcha3330
@baboolcha3330 11 ай бұрын
​@@Shilpa_Kujur no, the symbol of blunder is double question mark
@cool-128
@cool-128 26 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="872">14:32</a> you not gonna just stop by without saying "Hi, Mr. Wally Wallspider!"?
@_noTanbl4_
@_noTanbl4_ 8 ай бұрын
The line: 📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉
@amitgalor
@amitgalor 11 ай бұрын
I think it can be even better: Currently it chooses the move that gives the opponent the biggest advantage, but the advantage is calculated given the opponent's best move. We should program stockfish to choose the worst move given that the opponent *also* plays the worst move. e.g. a great move would be to *force* the opponent to take a piece or get closer to mating you.
@lightlysal
@lightlysal 11 ай бұрын
Antichess is already a thing, and I hear it's already been solved
@TheSGod
@TheSGod 11 ай бұрын
@@lightlysal is there any videos on antichess
@yetischwein
@yetischwein 11 ай бұрын
@@lightlysal This is not the same as antichess. Because in antichess capturing is compulsory and there are a few more special rules.
@lightlysal
@lightlysal 11 ай бұрын
@@yetischwein oh u right u right
@hendrikjung1053
@hendrikjung1053 11 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="914">15:14</a> can we just talk about the stockfish normal version found a mate in 40 for black?
@Mea175
@Mea175 11 ай бұрын
Dam 🦫
@emmettdja
@emmettdja 8 ай бұрын
technically the worst possible move would be a sequence of moves, bringing your queen out early and then proceeding to sacrifice it forcefully against the opponents king.
@BrooksMoses
@BrooksMoses 2 ай бұрын
That depends on your definition of "worst possible move", though -- and here, it's defined as the move that makes it hardest for you to win, not the move that makes it easiest for you to force a loss. What you suggest is a sequence of moves, not a single move -- and none of the moves that make up that sequence is, by itself, the worst possible move.
@emmettdja
@emmettdja 2 ай бұрын
@@BrooksMoses that would be like saying the best possible move in chess is to take the piece on the board with highest value, only looking one move ahead. it is not optimal in all cases.
@DbootRJ
@DbootRJ 6 ай бұрын
He says that he’s not gonna remind us that it’s the worst mood possible. Every turn instantly says it again. Lol
@Orrinn123
@Orrinn123 11 ай бұрын
It would be really cool to see if the objective was TO LOSE and not to just make the worst move each move. That way Stockfish would find a way to force the opponent to take his pieces and possibly even a way to force the opponent to checkmate. Would be interesting
@Neutral.Mapping
@Neutral.Mapping 11 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="545">9:05</a> Everybody saw this line. Levy is the kind of person who thinks everyone is a GM
@Dolphan.
@Dolphan. 11 ай бұрын
Gothamchess watchers trying not to think there genius (impossible)
@moonfade7651
@moonfade7651 11 ай бұрын
Are we not GM's?
@GeorgeDCowley
@GeorgeDCowley 11 ай бұрын
But thinks we didn't see the other mates.
@echoonyoutube
@echoonyoutube 11 ай бұрын
Grand minors
@TylerMarkRichardson
@TylerMarkRichardson 11 ай бұрын
​@@echoonyoutube grooms minors
@biscuitguy4083
@biscuitguy4083 6 ай бұрын
Best part of this video is just how excited Levy is about the whole thing
@dreamofsprings
@dreamofsprings 8 ай бұрын
Forced mate in 40 is crazy. No one in the world could ever find that
@mrredman744
@mrredman744 10 ай бұрын
I’m already dying after the queen tries to hang itself but black just moves it’s king all throughout the center 😂
@just-swichi
@just-swichi 11 ай бұрын
Levy: I'm not gonna remind you that stockfish will play the worst possible move Also Levy after every move : bEcAuSe iT's PrOhRaMeD tO pLaY tHe WoRsT pOsSiBlE mOvE
@TristanSune
@TristanSune 11 ай бұрын
His commentary made this video unbearable
@kfirfrenkel3628
@kfirfrenkel3628 6 ай бұрын
I started crying when I realized that they play every move I want to play
@trueriver1950
@trueriver1950 4 ай бұрын
The most boring chess game is where a draw results from each player alternately bringing a knight out and putting it back. To speed things up, always use the same knight each time. With appropriate collusion it's a simple draw for each player on the basis of repeated position.
@em4six348
@em4six348 11 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="583">9:43</a> Bro think he netflix 💀
@kingofdeath854
@kingofdeath854 11 ай бұрын
The people who worked hard to create the smartest chess AI to find moves that even humans cant fine , watching this video : 👁👄👁
@y4junzhan56
@y4junzhan56 11 ай бұрын
Is not fine is find and CUM is Crime Uproot Ministry In roblox
@prohz9129
@prohz9129 11 ай бұрын
To be fair even the worst of us can't find these moves either😂
@kingofdeath854
@kingofdeath854 11 ай бұрын
@@prohz9129 yeah that's next level of greatest that this two bots achieved 😂
@illiseanise
@illiseanise 7 ай бұрын
Let me say, stockfish was definitely programmed to play the worst possible move
@inseptus712
@inseptus712 8 ай бұрын
As a mathematician, I can't call this having "solved" anti-chess. We don't say Stockfish playing well is having solved regular chess. Solving a game is much more of a claim than being able to do well at it. It is knowing the entire game front to back. It is knowing, from the beginning, how the game will end if both players play optimally. It is a game between 2 players/bots that can see infinite moves into the future. This is not it.
@Rizzo077
@Rizzo077 11 ай бұрын
Martin is like "finally a worthy opponent"
@ZinWolff
@ZinWolff 11 ай бұрын
I love how Levi skill-fully ignores how much of an existential crisis the eval is having.
@jnmarshmello2728
@jnmarshmello2728 7 ай бұрын
In a high level game the eval bar is unmoving, in this it is like banging a child against 2 walls
@Faunarr
@Faunarr 7 ай бұрын
@@jnmarshmello2728 why would you bang a child?
@MrMartinSchou
@MrMartinSchou 4 ай бұрын
This could be an interesting tie-breaker for events. Not sure HOW to balance it out, because you could just end up with kings wandering around the board for an entire game.
@kaelynnchia9110
@kaelynnchia9110 7 ай бұрын
"Oh, there's a spider on on my wall...ON THE OUTSKIRTS..."
@SkimLuca
@SkimLuca 11 ай бұрын
It would be even more interesting if they both stockfish know that the opponent will play the worst move (it doesn't seem like that now, for example in the opening Qe1 with the intent of Qh4 to lose the queen wouldn't make sense)
@pinadesecada2585
@pinadesecada2585 11 ай бұрын
I though this would be the rule
@jake8217
@jake8217 11 ай бұрын
​@@pinadesecada2585 That's impossible.
@dasMoschustier
@dasMoschustier 11 ай бұрын
@@jake8217 It's not impossible. Although it would not change a whole lot.
@Acc-nt5dp
@Acc-nt5dp 11 ай бұрын
​@@dasMoschustierit would actually change a lot
@jake8217
@jake8217 11 ай бұрын
@@dasMoschustier impossible in the sense that "play the worst move possible on each turn" with the goal of "losing the game" is not compatible. In this video, they just had to play the objectively worst move on each turn, they weren't trying to lose. Otherwise it is like saying, I am trying to reach somewhere by walking away from there.
@nikks_2365
@nikks_2365 14 күн бұрын
the mate in 50 at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="963">16:03</a> when they're shuffling around is crazy
@a.k.8725
@a.k.8725 4 ай бұрын
Right now the engines are trying to find moves that give the opponent the most winning best move. Next time they should try finding moves that give the opponent the best possible worst move.
@thedudeguy242
@thedudeguy242 11 ай бұрын
It'd be great to see a version of this where the goal is to force the opponent to checkmate your king and take your pieces.
@Mateo-kf1ud
@Mateo-kf1ud 11 ай бұрын
antichess and self-mate puzzles are the closest you can get to that
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