I'm sure he would just prefer proper compensation and lessons learned preventing the next mess.

I'll second that. Could you just imagine what a fantastic country we would be living in if men like Alan were in charge.

We need people like Alan in the House of Lords

he chosen not to need such titles and honors to have intregity .thats for the tory who needs it .besides who wants to be labeled with such things that only leads to miss trust .after 14 years of tory making it a joke.

@@user-sd3ik9rt6dideally we’d get both. Proper compensation for the victims, proper consequences for those involved, AND a knighthood for Alan Bates.

Truth twisters? They lied and then they committed crimes to put these Post Masters in jail knowing that they hadn't committed any crimes. The people at the top need to be put on trial and put in jail for a very long time.

Ministers and Civil servants. They need to be jailed. Start with the head of the CPS at the time. Another example

I wouldn't blame the tool too much, however P.O. *and the government* are a different story.

@@wolcek 1. Judges 2. Lawyers 3. Post Office employees [Top and Bottom] 4. Fujitsu 5. Civil Servants Lots need to be asset stripped and jailed. For example, civil servants to lose their pensions. Judges to loose their pensions . Fujitsu bankrupted if need be.

Dont forget the BENT lawyers at Cartright & co in Bristol, they all know whats coming down the track for them...............

He deserves a knighthood

I beg to differ; he's not a great man, he's an ordinary man with significant knowledge and experience on the job, who's been pissed-off and slandered by 'big' people who thought they were clever enough to fuck people around until they got caught out, because this 'little man' knew he was in the right, and was doggedly persistent in defending himself and others in the same position. We seem to have a habit of lionising ordinary people who defend themselves against a proverbial 'Goliath' and win, but the fact is, ordinary people often prove themselves capable of extraordinary feats when some 'big' clown tries to trample on them and feed them to a meat grinder. Alan Bates and the JFSA should not be seen as the exception, but the rule; put ordinary people under pressure in extraordinary circumstances, and you can be damn sure that if they are given the chance to unite, they will rise to the challenge.

Bullying threats AND lies and perjury.

we know it happens just look what it takes to stop it .

@@hydroknight01 i wrote a comment like this my rewared from you tube was to block the replies .as i had not broke cummunity standards but i did show decent to tory rule i screen saved it i filed the comment then screen saved and files my comlaint to you tube .then i did the same when i tried to warn youtbers when i was blocked from replying to people to show them the reply was blocked to such a anicent comment becuase .youtube has reasons

Lord Bates of 'ahem' Liverpool. He's already been nominated for Freedom of the City. Liverpool has form in taking on the Establishment and finding truth, Margaret Aspinall springs to mind.....

The truth will out.

@@whatsthatnow308 He lives in Llandudno now, I believe. But if he would prefer Liverpool then fair play.

An amazing man

Don't insult him, this has all been about the Establishment. The Lords reform has failed, too.

then people went to jail after you tube chosen to farm our outrage.to look for ways to jail people for showing decent to tory by protesting again.

Glad I never got Vennereal disease from that woman !!

the gov caused so much stress to so many people during Covid scamdemic as well. They let people die alone. How much that affected their family?

Sadly some sub-postmasters took their own lives. Families ruined. I don't expect anyone will be held properly accountable for this massive miscarriage of justice.

It is corporate manslaughter. Yes.

It’s completely sickening that all these people instead of quickly reviewing all cases they spent the time trying to cover their butts and not pay anything to any Sub post master.

Ed davey was the one that was responsible for government ignorance. At the time and still playing ignorant. But we are talking about a bloke that doesn't know what a woman is

Well, we don't impose prison sentences without a preceding trial. The passage of time makes me believe proving things about specific individuals beyond a reasonable doubt is going to be difficult. But I wish them good luck. And I think it quite easy to prove the CEO lied to Parliament, so she definitely needs some time behind bars for that.

@@dizwell I share your concern. Also with all the publicity surrounding this case it's going to be difficult to find an impartial jury.

the rich truly rule the country, always have and always will , the only way is revolution, and the British are not revolutionaries'

Its not just one teeny weeney lie or mistatement. It is a pattern of lying perjury and deception resulting in ruined careers and lives. Triple damages what is called Punitive damages to signal to the succophants that there ARE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES for such egregious behavior.

He’s already turned down their little gongs , he’s better than that

@@karl9411 I didn't know that. I admire him even more now.

@@clarathordiss3663 he needs a reward out side of tory .one a tory can not earn or buy . a bigger one than a nighthood a noble peace prize more like for services to humanity .this mans needs medal not a knighthood tory can keep them .

last time i wrote this youtube blocked any one from replying so i must of hurt a tory nerve in youtubes algorithm

They've not only ultimately trashed the brand but have created a shitstorm and hopefully long jail sentences, fines and losses of pension.

I think they started with the fear that announcing the system could not be trusted would leave all post office subject to fraud, as any malign actor could steal what they wanted while the system for cash tracking was unreliable. So I can understand the case for secrecy at the beginning, whilst you rush to fix the system. But knowing what they knew, why on earth did they allow post master to be accused and prosecuted based on evidence they knew could be utterly false. And carrying on the cover up for years and years. And they didn't fix the system. The mind boggles at the levels of ineptitude and dishonesty.

No, not even the brand, just protecting themselves.

Rotten to the core.

it like the police if they do not want to know .they will do every thing they can to make sure they will not know.and if you try a little harder they call it harrasment.

Government Gansters

Sadly some less than others

David Duckenfield was responsible for the deaths of 97 people. He lied to an enquiry and perverted the course of justice by getting officers to change their statements. Now living scott free on a massive pension. The answer to your question is a resounding 'NO'.

None will go to prison. There will be another enquiry followed years later with no lessons learned. There are previous examples of this with the Hillsborough enquiry , Jimmy Saville, and the Lucy Letby. What do all these have in common? All employed by government owned institutions; the Police, BBC and NHS, whose leadership lacks accountability.

Paula Vennells has said "SORRY".....bless her!! So what do you really believe will happen to every slimey tricky evil player in this drama......nothing.

I would sooner believe in Father Christmas, UFOs, the Loch Ness monster and the Easter Bunny. Even though the evidence is thin, it is still more believable than any of the senior players facing true justice.

Has zero to do with the government. The post Office is a private company.

Every message has 2 ends and every message has been recorded as Julian Assange's situation can substantiate. Just try getting it though.

i emailed that knob and told him what i think of him after reading his respoces to alan.i thought he said people lied to him at the post office .looks to like he was lying and directly avoided talking to alan.snubing him many times .any tory here saying it all of them .i recormend you got to the finishing sentence written by alan .he said present goverment and hoped for a new one might help him.

@@DavidJohnson-yg8qm Like the COVID msgs.

The Tories have been desperate to smear Ed Davey and ignore that very many Tory ministers have been in post since him when the situation was much more well known and as we hear here, were clearly colluding with the post office in covering things up.

They don’t destroy evidence, they hide it on military bases until they need it.

i guess we can not trust the taking of the donation tray in her church of england.

it happening here in real time youtube are removing blocking or stopping people replying to comments if it showing decent to the p.o. and tory rule and the justice system .i started keeping records of it over and over .

"The British people must never again trust their government and legal system" This case is a corrupt case with scumbags covering their own backs.. Im sure there are plenty more out there similar to this case. But get a grip...

Has nothing to do with the Government. The Post Office is a private company.

@@vegasmike You are wrong. The Royal Mail was sold off and is a private company. The Post Office remain, partially, in government hands. You're another clueless criminal apologist making false comments to muddy the waters. Now go away and play with your toys.

​@@vegasmike The Post Office was given the right to conduct criminal prosecutions, and used the power of the government to subjugate and silence those who they unfairly targeted with little oversight from authorities that should have protected these sub-postmasters from them. Also, The Post Office is *not* a private company, it is a corporation owned by the Department for Business and Trade, Royal Mail is a private company that handles courier services for The Post Office and a range of other courier companies as a 'last mile' carrier.

how did the justice system not notice some thing cant be right for 20 years and they still be doing it for another 20 years if it was not for alan and the jsa groups bravery .alan deserves a medal not a knighthood there not given for bravery they given for services to tory .or an award that independant of the tory and international for services to humanity ..

Susan crichton deserves a long jail sentence

They soon won’t when the extreme tories get their way. Haven’t you been reading or listening to the news? They’re bleating about leaving the ECHR now.

Our politicians would just ignore it and the public would support the politicians because it's called European.

@@Ghengiskhansmum but we cant trust the tory in a court of justice .it been proven right here .

we got more chance of youtube farming our reactions showing decent to tory mate and jailing us

we got more chance going to jail for showing decent to tory .they been blocking people comments and what they cant block they dissalow a reply

we be on remand from the arrest they never let us free again untill sentenced served or maybe not served at all just kept with out charge .we have a few enemy of the tory sitting in jail.

looks at the moment paula hoping "her god" Mammon will protect her .i like to call him the tory party.

Yes-it is shameful and maybe a lot more will come out of this even at this late date. If there are any decent people left in Mi5, this case and its tentacles should be their number 1 priority.

I doubt that Paula Vennells has any understanding of her evil or of the outrage that her evil has caused.

Has zero to do with the government. The post Office is a private company.

i think we need not imagine .we need to start listenig to the alans of this world and not the tory or the media.we not safe even here the ways youtube of gone to silence us and not even know it iis going to far on this subject to notice what side youtube is on.

seems we do that have to imagine much.

Paula Vennells' terminating of the Second Sight investigation tells me all I need to know about her.

it not tory seem to think they got away with it but they forgotten .WE KNOW WHAT THEY DID .

If as we understand that this is now under police investigation, it surely can’t be that long before Vennells is arrested. Love it if while she’s giving evidence to the enquiry live in a few weeks, plain clothes officers arrive to cuff her and take her away. That’d make great tv.

be carefull showing direct dssent to tory rule .youtube might find a way to lock you up for it.

we many enemy of tory proffit sitting in jails with out charge .he almost one of them.

what is a pv google not help me :P

@@andydudley1775 that’s her name Paula Vennels

@@robertovers1863 ah ty im stupid lol

no one voted for a sunek to be pm.no one voted for cameron to have a seat in house of commons .at least it two things the tory cant throw in our faces and claim this is what we voted for .

it always been this limit you just not noticed untill your tasting it.

worthless to the tory his work counted as nothing and the criminals been rewarded .not just paid .

@@andydudley1775 …his integrity still stands despite the ‘Torrys’ efforts to destroy him and the rest of the country, time for a change xx

Has zero to do with the government. The post Office is a private company.

sunek sorted it out the 100 million of tax payers money given to the P.O. for court fee's should of ended alan and the jfsa .the knigthood should of secured the cherry on the top for puala.

sunek signed off 100 million of our money for legal aid to make sure this was walked over and the victims priced out of justice .for the .p.o. when the victims had to find there own money to prove inacence.this is how the tory get things done.he should be made to ask why he did that.and never be allowed any where near a crime he part of .how dare he pretend not to know .stand there a bullshit the entire nation with a grin on his stupid face behind dead eyes again.

i do it been an admittence to the court are broken and the goverment and .p.o are not infalible and above the law .

The reason not to prosecute them as there is enough evidence to do so is it will open up a can of worms with how many were involved in the cover up including government ministers that the usual police inquiry will take place which will take an eternity to conclude as past inquiries with the supposed elite involved have proved to be the case using time to let it fade into the mist?

Paula Vennells is incapable of learning anything. That is why she rejected being told that the Horizon system was faulty.

well they know exacty how much evidence we got .rats leaving the sinking ships and hiding in churches .secret tapes being leaked .they will try to throw lessor guilty people to the wolves .and we find a P.O. ceo coloney living in argentina for sure.my god there a lot of them.

Also known as the Poo Office and Poo-Jitsu.

dont listen to the brand which of the church of england or the brand of the ceo's who using a corp name to hide behind .a name did not take people to court illegaly .that took an entire goverment of people .and was still making money sending people to jail hand over fist "STILL"very robustly untill the itv programe .

That will be Vennels. You can already see the Lib Dem mps doing this. Get ready for a master class from Crozier later this week.

the jails wont have the room for them all!!

depends we got people serving time enemy of the tory with no charge and no release date .

why we still calling it the P.O. it people who put people in jail.and the tory have shown us our worth.

The media will be going through a list of scandals to take our minds off the one before .this been a tory plan for 14 years .can you remember what should of been the 1 st reason to boot this goverment out of office .was it brexit im not sure it been so long and so many

im sure he did not know he was avoiding questions to know.but he got his reward that knighthood will give him power and position.

cannot be!!! It must be Belarus or Bulgaria or Lebanon.

Yes we know. What's your point?.

Would you believe it??? There's plenty more shite under the Gravy Train Carpet swept there to keep rich arses in power

he deserves an award out side of tory controll .and why the king so silent .