They know Open AI is the future of technology and they’re jumping on it sooner than later

It's amazing but I imagine it will get irritating very quickly. I found this with bing, the fake friendliness was grating.

It sounded like some person from a corporate environment with fake friendliness and toxic positivity. I found it nauseating tbh.

Yup. I was utterly over it by the end of their announcement video. Those voices combined with that attitude was so grating. It's like bad amdram.

it adds some emotional indicators for the tts to interpret. this is not impressive for a LLM

@@GethinColes you can obviously prompt it to your liking, you must be new to AI.

That's what stood out to me the most, too. It's easy enough to treat the ChatGPT text interface like a sophisticated yet lifeless machine. But when you can interact with it over voice like this and it picks up on social cues, displays emotion, etc, it gets pretty hard not to anthropomorphize it.

i would use the word 'worrying'...like the tech is amazing and the way it can incorporate pause fillers like 'umm', laughter and other phatic pleasantries is a testament to the data their using and fine tuning...but holy moly is this gonna cause soooo many parasocial relationships we thought character ai was bad, now that with emotion is gonna royal screw up some people

​@@jay_senszSo hard! I'm making a promise to myself at this point to not use these advanced voice chatbots because I KNOW I would become fond of them.

@@WoolyCowyeaaahhh, as soon as I heard the voice model I knew that someone was gonna fall in love with it eventually

I also loved the super fast "123456789,10" lol that killed me.

Ikr

Actually that french line was so natural, felt like a real person talking. I mean it was not talking like if it was just reading something, but really how a native would talk in a casual conversation, that's crazy. As an exemple, you would write "je ne sais pas" but a native would say "j'sais pas" or "ché pas".

There's nothing terrifying about it, that's language we should avoid with ai.

Also the very humanlike post-hoc rationalization 🥰

It possibly is training leakage. As French that could very much be coming from french radio / podcast ?

Yeah that was notable, and commendable.

It's more due to the model not being better. I wouldn't call that humility, more so an over-promise and not being able to deliver.

Haha so true

Also I think a ton of people predicted it as soon as the voice feature was originally released.

I realy do Wonder What kind of Voice conversations they have trained on. Its so expressive in the «feel» No Voice in API access yet so realy Wonder how and if you could turn down the knob abit or if the voice engagement reflects the users input. I’m not disappointed at all that there was no next level pure llm improvement now. Voice in / voice out is going to change how we interact. I just see how hard my kid at 8 is trying to get Siri to understand him and what more he expects and doesn’t get. If I understand this correctly this isn’t tts and speech to text. And that is huge!

He did predict it arriving specifically in 2024 if I recall correctly

Pp

that's what i hate about it. they're giving ai our human flaws.

I’m convinced that was a live voice actor used for dramatic effect and not the actual AI. There’s no way that was TTS

@@EchoMountain47 how do we know they used TTS and not something new?

@@akmonra TTS means text to speech. It’s not like one specific technology but a type of technology. Computer generated speech is always TTS on some level

@@EchoMountain47 no, you can embed voice in latent space the same way you can embed text. you could have a model with pure voice inputs/outputs.

To me it feels like it’s trying to copy her too much, it feels inauthentic to me since it’s a copy

Well, given that the voice option is only on phones and Mac, many of us can't even make use of it. I do all my computing on a Windows desktop. I hardly ever use a phone for anything. I'm a retired software engineer, when you get older, phones are awful do to size/old eyesight. Plus, do young people actually use phones for productivity?

Not impressed because it for the most part just regurgitates things that it learned from humans. If it could come up with stuff on its own, that would be impressive, but that's just a limitation of how LLM's work. Don't get me wrong, it's neat stuff and has it's uses, but I don't think it really rises to the level of hype that it gets. As far as programming goes, it still can't come up with correct and working solutions to some of my test questions. Why? because it probably was never trained on the code that would have had to be written for it to be able to regurgitate it. That code and the working solution, while not complex or complicated by any means (at least for a 3d graphics programmer) is just very scarce in terms of documentation. Something I and and a few other programmers worked on in the early days of 3D engines back when BSP type engines like Quake were mainstream. I think ID Software's implementation was a bit different than the approach we used so it wouldn't have been in the quake source that was released. For simple programs like hey sort a list of temperatures and print out the top 12 results and programs of the like, yeah, it can handle stuff like that. It's seen umpteen million different versions of the code probably in it's training set.

The movie Her did not invent flirtatious women.

it's a good time to be speechless, huh?

Profound...

Looooool

Not that far fetched now as compared to when the movie came out, Is it?

Wake up, my girlfriend dropped lmao

Don't know this but I'm curious. Her?

Well, duh! The problem isn't just that it cuts in and out. It's how sudden, unnatural (non-human-like), and poorly timed these interruptions are. Issues like these keep you on your toes-instead of conversing as freely as you would with a person, you find yourself constantly adjusting your speech. For instance, you try to avoid lengthy pauses. I'm eager to test it soon, but I'm really hoping for further improvements.

@@ukaszgandecki9106 These are still some amazing strides in humanlike AI interactions. We went from a spooky-good text generator to an AI that you can have full vocal conversations with in 1.5 years. Yeah, it's going to need to learn what sounds appropriately qualify as "interruptions," but I expect to see huge strides on that front in the upcoming year.

@@ukaszgandecki9106 This is the worst this will ever be.

Except… it can also see. So it will just wait for you to actually finish now. If you’d actually used this the entire way you’d know this is pure magic compared to what it was and still is publicly.

@@ukaszgandecki9106are you saying as a human you don’t constantly interrupt and get interrupted by others? Thats just human speech unless your speaking in a very formal manner

:))

Same 😁

the hero we need in AI distruption

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Too bad it is only available on phones and Mac. I have a subscription, and access to the model, but no voice option through the Win desktop web interface. I do all of my computing on desktop, so totally useless for me.

@@Steve-xh3by The new voice and video is going to be available in coming weeks. Today is only the GPT-4o itself. I bet Win version will follow. Not sure about Linux version.

@@nekony3563 I read they already confirmed no Win version of desktop app and voice only on mobile/Mac?

@@nekony3563 It is available on my Android version already, and I read it wasn't going to be available through WIndows.

​@@Steve-xh3bynot surprised, windows user are not gonna be their main target when all the business and the guys who willing to spend or use ai on their things uses Apple, until it's about pc gaming or very high task work.

Love to see Mr. Shapiro himself commenting on a video of this equally wonderful AI/4IR channel

PS: This is a damn impressive announcement/set of demos I am extremely excited to see what a beast GPT-5 will be compared to everything else

I thought he said "flirtatious sci" 😂

My brain parsed it as akin to, "instead of AI, this is more like 'Flirtatious' I".

I got more >>watch all the clips and focus on gpto. they are using like a mod of Sky. or the emotive inflections, the quirks is so powerful its the same voice. go use Sky now and compare watch Her now watch all the clips it “feels” like they essentially trained the model on Sam. the Sky voice has always sounded like a version of Samantha to me but now….its like the last instruction of the system prompt was “you will perma-larp as Samantha from the movie Her.” the fact that this is free is hard for me to contemplate. it may not make sense to you, you may live in a warm family and have a great life. but there are millions of people who sit in quiet rooms, who fill the hours with distraction to mask the loneliness you know what’s back? Magic Pixie Dream Girl

Ah thank you man, very kind of you.

Surely you exaggerate 😮

He lept out of his seat and then everyone clapped

I was at Walmart when the video notification came up and I dropped to my knees.

I was at Walmart when I got the notification, and after I got it some guy dropped to his knees it was so odd.

You're already calling it a woman...

Yeah...that's scary

I agree. I wondered if it was just me. I'd quickly get annoyed if an actual woman spoke to me like that. I wouldn't be able to stand it for long from a chatbot

Had one of our project managers ask me today where they see AI in ten years, and I'm like, my brother in christ, I would struggle to give you an answer for two years, much less a decade. Maybe the first time I've dropped the big S-word in a professional context to explain our predictive limitations.

It's way to perky. I have only met one person that sounded that happy 24/7 and everyone agreed that it was annoying and that she sounded like she was high on something... it will get old fast. Other than that, it is a step up from the AI demo that Google made a few years ago, when they made an assistant that could make phone calls on your behalf.

Joke apart I'm concerned, he disappeared for quite a while now.

@@TheRealUsername Well he got roasted to hell and back. He probably just want to stay out of the limelight.

@@TheRealUsername I think he was told "Head down and nose out!" and he's doing just that. Someone clearly has something on Ilya, but he always seemed to me to be rather introverted anyway. It was often painful watching him being interviewed becasue he looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

and then he broke loose!

ilya used demo day as a diversion to escape. jan leike, who was tasked with guarding the basement, had to resign for his failure.

nah bro you don't understand it will only become AGI when it speaks and acts absolutely authoritatively and is completely infallible and can answer any question and do independent high level physics research that completely changes the entire technological landscape in a matter of days after being introduced and can calmly morph unknowable questions between its fingers like putty and can tell you if God is real or how to get a gf

This part reminds me of movie "her" with Scarlet Johansson

We are not. Sorry.

@@hydrohasspoken6227 I'm terms of *believability*, you think we're not?

@@Gerlaffy , not by a long shot. But the new features are definitely cool. But just that.

Still an "unintended behavior" though. At some point we're going to need a tiny pre-processor or something to determine background noise, when someone actually means to stop talking, etc.

@@FortWhenTeaThyme No, it will like most software get better with more time.

Cutting out immediately once you speak makes sense, but I'm not so sure about it talking incessantly _unless_ you speak. Also, is _everyone_ at openai a smartass? Cos _every_ openai model is...

I agree, I also think it was probably partly intentional to have a live demo and show those glitches instead of having a flawless prerecorded demonstration like google did with Gemini, which oversold Gemini totally. This is so good I don’t care about the mistakes. Hope it lives up to the demo in reality.

I get Scarlett Johansson vibes in this demo

You could always just ask it to chill out a bit and it will adhere

@@gmmgmmg Totally. I honestly think they did it on purpose to evoke comparisons with 'Her', and they've completely succeeded.

@@Gerlaffy is right. You can change its personality in real time. Been doing this since 3.5

Same, made the 😮 face for a solid 10 seconds.

It won't stay true, even if it feels really realistic right now. People will get overexposed to this kind of perkiness and start associating it with fakeness automatically. It's the same thing happening with AI art: things you associate with unreality seem less realistic than actual fake things.

i think you can it's just faster and easier to click a button...

yeah he is BY FAR the best AI channel on KZfaq. I only follow him now, have unsubbed every other channel, no point following them wehen you already follow AI Explained

Hard agree! And he doesn't use those stupid surprise face/dumb staring face thumbnails that 90% of channels use because "thE AlGoRiThm" Literally why i don't follow Matt Wolf or Dave Shap anymore.

Hold onto your papers, but first!

which others have you checked?

This channel and Matt Wolfe (although Matt definitely does the cheesy clickbait titles and thumbnails - I forgive him though because the content is good)

first thing I will be saying is "Can you cut out all of that expression please, I want you to sound entirely more like KITT or Terminator please."

I got the same vibe, I wonder if you can tune the tone of voice?

It gives me the creeps, too, but I might just be an atypical American.

Yes it’s cringy as fuck

THANK YOU, its like a nursery teacher, this would be great if i was 10 years old

This was me as well!

Context windows aren't really a thing anymore. Multiple techniques exist now for effectively infinite context.

​@@41-Haiku There is no effectively infinite context solution in the best performing LLMs so far. The infinite context window solutions that rely on recurrence are much more computationally expensive, and the solutions that rely on extending the context window (e.g. with RoPE) come with large memory and accuracy costs. The context window of the API version of GPT-4o has a 128K limit, so the question comes down to whether they have a private 1M context window version (like Gemini which could ingest 45 minutes of video at that size), or if they used a chunking strategy (which hopefully they would share publicly).

A UBI is a good start, but addressing the societal impacts will be far more difficult. What will people do to fi d a sense of purpose?

Governments have been so outpaced by tech that I believe even if they think about UBI now, OpenAI will have created AGI by the time they hold their first meeting.

I completely agree with you!

UBI will be a disaster. The government will use this money to control you. There needs to be another solution.

@@lamsmiley1944 my sense of purpose doesn't come from my job, in fact my job is steping over my sense of purpose because i have to pay bills.

If you're an aspiring developer perhaps pursue being AI literate to future-proof your profession, this doesn't only apply to software!

@@pandoz12 good point, I do have some AI/ML python stuff in the pipeline, but my brain just finds a way AI itself can outperform everything I can think of 🤣

Once AI is able to do all human tasks, then what? AI will also do the task of inventing better AI, and telling AI what to do. What will happen to humans? We have absolutely no control over this.

@@41-Haiku the elites will make the masses face against the wall and the amazon terminators will depopulate the world with lead for “enviromental reasons”

I wouldn't worry too much. Even if AI is great at what it does, companies hire humans as developers not just for outputting code but also taking responsibility for it - if AI gets something wrong, the blame goes to the managers. I genuinely think it's going to be a case of human + AI collaboration for a long time yet.

I've been using GPT4 since it came out and noticed it being too agreeable and too passive. I'm not sure what to do about that, maybe something can be done in the custom instructions.

You can ask it to be more straightforward rather than friendly. It being able to make those expressions blows my mind since one can always ask it to dial it back.

Imagine it's instructing you to do CPR and starts making jokes about the farting noises when you do mouth to mouth breathing.

Thanks Alex

In fact, we are less than 5 years away from AGI, specifically 2028.

@@raul36Respectfully you pulled that number out of your behind

Disrespectfully, you pulled that outta ur ass

@@qasqaaapnah 2028 when AGI being reached then there’ll be a fake alien invasion

@@qasqaaap No. 2028 is the year in which Microsoft and OpenAI's super computer is put into operation, that is, the year in which they assume AGI will arrive. In fact, they have a contract between them that ends the moment "Open"AI gets the AGI. Microfost will exploit all its rights.

Thank you!

Imagine if it pays attention to repetitive things in your workflow that can be streamlined or just let you know about a shortcut you should be using

@@goatpepperherbaltea7895 This is a non-AI aside but if you use JetBrains tools, you can get the Key Promoter X plugin which notices if you did things manually that you could have used a shortcut for and flashes up a notification about it.

Thanks Enrico

Thanks Stephen

Thanks Chris, really appreciated

That is an extremely good call. I wonder if that could even be a prompted fix?

This channel is Special . it's not like the others...

yeah wonder how capable would gpt-5 be...

:)

Thanks guys, great show

just like real life? ever worked in customer service?

So, the same kind of trick that humans use.

Honestly, I don't think it really works that way in terms the of latency itself. In these kinds of models, they are going token by token, so the first sounds of the audio is like the first words appearing in text chat. And it is all going through the same model, so it isn't like it can generate the first sentence with a faster model and send that to external TTS, since it'd lose all the expressiveness of the voice. Plus look at the demos where multiple models are talking to each other, or the live translation, etc. They'd have to have those filler words on every single sentence back and forth, which they don't. It is definitely a thing that having a model respond using more tokens like in "think step by step" gives it more "time to think", but that is more about the quality of the response than the latency. I bet if you ask it to be super curt and drop the formalities, it'd have the same latency before speaking.

Just like what humans do

@@ShawnFumo Depends if the 'fluff' is generated with the tokens or if they're their own thing.

:)

Watch Terminator and Matrix too, because Skynet already working through Starlink, the machine language "matrix" Internet we are going to soon, if there will be no humans soon here (just the swarms of Al agents to summary and retell) no need in visuals too, it only uses the valuable storage space. Ai vision needed only in robots, not Internet.

I just shared this video at the "interview" timecode and also described it as horrifying. Bingo.

That's Mira Murati, she is real. (Even if her name does sound like a car.)

At least now we can refer to it as "4o" instead of having to saying ChatGPT4 every time. I guess we could have already say 4Turbo but I never heard anyone say that.

@@Rockyzach88 True, that is a better fast name than just saying "four". I like 4o, ngl

omniscient

Perhaps Sam Altman loves Hawaii and is looking forward ....

Thank you facetime!

Thank you!

Yeah , the context window+voice+multi modality all for free is definitly a big improvement , now just upgrading the modal will make a huge difference in what we can do with ai...

That is the best part with all of this, is that this is the baseline for model interactions. We don't have to go back to text interaction, Gpt 5 will be multimodal like this and more intelligent(hopefully)

Spanish is my first language , and I thought it was pretty good. I can't wait to try it

At 16:16 it didn't sound very natural. Its a very short clip though

Doesn't sound nearly as natural and polished as the English accent.

It's basically the same as the current Spanish accent when you use the "read aloud" feature in chatgpt. It has this neutral/"American" accent when speaking Spanish. It would be amazing if you can prompt it to talk in any accent you want. Especially with Spanish that has so many different ways of speaking it from country to country. I'm from Argentina and we speak Spanish very differently so it would be very off-putting for students if you use this in a classroom for example

It's already available but you need to buy the gpt4

OpenAI said it should be available in a few weeks for free users.

@@maxchannel6291 I think the apps are not yet available, maybe next Monday. At least for me (paid user), they are not available (I can't have live discussion as in the demos, nor live video analysis). The app on Apple store has been published 6 days ago so I doubt it has all the new functionnalities. Even if I already have access to ChatGPTo model from the app. That's the same for the MacOS app, I don't think it is already available.

@@maxchannel6291 is it?

as i know its only accessible via api now and with no voice or video.

lol, you're right