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GPU Rig Fire !!! How do you troubleshoot your mining rigs???

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HashRaptor

HashRaptor

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Raptors, today we are taking a look at a board that caught fire on my Solo Crypto GPU Mining Rig. I'll walk through what I discovered, and share some of my thoughts regarding how I troubleshoot my rigs. Let us know what are the first things you look at or try when troubleshooting a rig.
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@SebsFinTechChannel
@SebsFinTechChannel 2 жыл бұрын
That's some scary stuff, glad you're okay and no serious harm to your gear!
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much my man! yeah it totally caught me off guard. Everyone be sure to sub to Sebs if you haven't already!!!
@g-kc7462
@g-kc7462 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Hashraptor, I completely understand your challenge with cables and the right supplier. I have found that parallel miner has 16 awg cables (labeled on the wire) for their kits and even individually. I try to get the breakout boards with the amp meter so its an easy wattage calculation. I am starting to write the watts on the server supply and spread the cables evenly on the board. Thanks for the reminder to visually inspect again. I am using the emporia panel meter(amazon) and can see the watts and amps on the overall circuit from anywhere most of the time(wifi flakes out rarely for me). Just my practice with my few rigs. Happy mining and hope you continue to recover.
@TPSMiner
@TPSMiner 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, so glad that it was only a burned out breakout board! Thank you for the detailed troubleshooting walkthrough. I particularly like the fact that you walked through a root causes analysis and highlighted the importance of putting HiveOS in maintenance mode. It's not something I always do, but I sure will from now on!
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Keep us updated on you mining adventure!
@TPSMiner
@TPSMiner 2 жыл бұрын
@@HashRaptor I started a YT channel a few months ago to document my progress and to try and give something back to the community that helped me get to where I am today! You are one of the main reasons why I started my mining adventure and I can't thank you enough for that. I am so excited to see you back in action, you were sorely missed my friend!
@dreamcryptomining
@dreamcryptomining 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man! You have been lucky, good to hear that everything went well. Keep mining!
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@MM-pv8zp
@MM-pv8zp 2 жыл бұрын
cant imagine leaving hardware unattended for more than......12 hours lol. i wish i had remote ability to shut down a windows pc or an asic. havent had time to figure out
@shahhiddali
@shahhiddali 2 жыл бұрын
Spliter cable on 1 card only good working
@MrVikassonu
@MrVikassonu 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing ur experience
@nathanielschroeder1321
@nathanielschroeder1321 2 жыл бұрын
If I have lights on the riser I will take it off and put it back on before replacing it. Noticed your breakout board was pretty close to the side of your metal frame. Maybe the solder joints on a humid day jumped to ground. After seeing a few burnt connections like this, now I don't trust the plastic connector to hold the pins/wires in place while I push the connectors together. I grab the wires and push down instead of grabbing the connector. Taking a connector apart, it's not much keeping the pins inside from pulling out and thus possibly making a poor connection.
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that is a good idea. I'll now do that every time :)
@Zeggi81
@Zeggi81 2 жыл бұрын
Exact same thing happened to me, but in my case the breakoutboard got so heated that it melted from the bottom of the board. I suspect the board had something faulty between the rubber layer, reason is because it was a new board and was only running for 8 hours. Lesson learned after that was to check the new board and also spread out the connection evenly in terms of power hungry GPUs spread out instead of having all on one side of the breakoutboard.
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
yeah good idea
@SuperChargecl
@SuperChargecl 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Nerd Gearz breakout board it was only a few months old and it did the same thing. I was running P104s on smos.
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Doh! Sorry to hear that!
@AceH.D
@AceH.D 2 жыл бұрын
Yep had a similar thing happened with a breakout bord like a month a go . Very scary
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Doh! Glad it worked out bruv! stay safe!
@oceanblue2386
@oceanblue2386 2 жыл бұрын
What's the best brand name power strips to buy that are reliable? I get some of these I get some of these power strips with brand names cheapie.
@patrickbrunet3155
@patrickbrunet3155 2 жыл бұрын
Just had the same situation happen on my 3070ti rig. The wife woke up and complained about a plastic burning smell in the basement........
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man. Glad it worked out okay.
@MM-pv8zp
@MM-pv8zp 2 жыл бұрын
recently i started getting the SAME burning on my breakouts, quality has dropped and cable thinness is going on. i crisped my cables too and the solder jumpered on the back chip
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! Wish we had a source for high quality cables.
@MM-pv8zp
@MM-pv8zp 2 жыл бұрын
@@HashRaptor we wont because RIP GPU mining fad soon
@Steve25g
@Steve25g Жыл бұрын
@@HashRaptor diy....
@gvrznw
@gvrznw 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a board full of 6 pin connectors? Wouldn't 8 pin connectors be safer? (6 pin = 75w, 8 pin = 150w)? I've never used these server power supplies but do they make them in 8 pin format?
@gvrznw
@gvrznw 2 жыл бұрын
I just looked and it seems these server PSU boards are only available in 6-pin format. Unless I'm missing something it seems this is a very good reason to *NOT* use server PSUs but only use ATX PSUs with their 8 pin ports.
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
This has been hotly debated and I totally get both sides. I have had one riser do something similar on an ATX PSU so I'm inclined to think both options are good. But definitely a preference. That being said, you have a lot more options with the server PSU.
@gvrznw
@gvrznw 2 жыл бұрын
@@HashRaptor Is there a place where this debate is happening? I'd like to read more comments from both sides - and thank you for posting about your trials by fire (pun intended :) ) I'm new and when I started I had no idea that fire was even a risk - you have got me wanting to learn more about it to mitigate it as far as possible!
@Steve25g
@Steve25g Жыл бұрын
This is ATX standard.. A server psu does not follow the ATX standard, and cable takes what it's electrically capable to handle. These pins take 9A.. just see, cables are thick enough, to cool enough.
@queenofrandom2301
@queenofrandom2301 2 жыл бұрын
@HashRaptor if you are running 80 percent power rule on the psus , then should that have happened even if the OC settings went to the wrong card? I am thinking it was just a faulty board and nothing to do with your OC and maintenance mode.
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, good point you are right.
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a single overloaded GPU with the wrong wattage assigned could provide electrical feedback into the port??? Maybe not IDK. Not and electrician here lol
@TheBMSeaton
@TheBMSeaton 2 жыл бұрын
@@HashRaptor I'm and electronics technician... So... I don't use HiveOS, but I do mine and understand the concept of the flight sheet, I do a flight sheet, but the way my miners are setup, it is a little different, but same concept... There really is nothing you can do to a GPU via clocking setting that'll flat harm the GPU or cause a fire... Short anyways of poor power budgeting... IF you inject a 3080 clock settings into a 3060 for example, that won't wreck the 3060, it'll just crash... The ONLY way it can ruin the 3060 or pwoer management, is if you only power budgeted for 110 watts a 3060 would usually only operate pulling, and then you inject for example the 3080 settings into the 3060, then maybe the 3060 will call for more power (say for example the 3060 had a power limit of 60% and the 3080 called for 80%, but now you place the call for 80% into the 3060 instead of 60%), if that happens, it is still a percentage of the GPUs TDP, it isn't going to force the GPU to call for more power than the GPU can handle, a GPU can easily handle 100%, all GPUs can... They're designed to handle at least 100% for gaming, etc... 100% is just full TDP... So even calling for 80% from a 3060 that you'd normally only ask for 60% from, it should still be ok.... UNLESS you power budgeted for ONLY the 110 watts, and not the full TDP, which for a 3060 is 170 watts... If you power budgeted for operational powers and not full potential powers, aka full TDP, then if the even occurred where a GPU demanded full TDP, you might overload the wiring or power source, because going full TDP would put you over your power budget (though in theory the 80% rule should save you here as well, if you budgeted for it)... So if a power limit of 60% usually draws 110 watts you operate at normally, and thus only budgeted for 110 watts, but then injected the 3080's 80% setting, it'll call for 80% and not 60%, so you will get more than 110 watts, but still less than the 170 watts TDP... But if anything over 110 watts puts you over budget, then yea, you can burn something up or out... ALWAYS budget for TDP, not for what you plan to run it at...
@nathanielschroeder1321
@nathanielschroeder1321 2 жыл бұрын
WiFi smoke detector. You're welcome :)
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
hehe, any one in particular you recommend?
@gregtrades5579
@gregtrades5579 2 жыл бұрын
Great, now I gotta go buy another smoke detector...
@Mr78Maximus
@Mr78Maximus 2 жыл бұрын
check your risers ,they may got contact to frame because they on aluminium and rubber may damaged
@TheBMSeaton
@TheBMSeaton 2 жыл бұрын
The ONLY way I see how your clock settings could have caused this to burn up, is if you are not power budgeting properly to begin with. For example, if you are power budgeting 3060s to receive 110 watts that you'd probably operate them at, and not at their 170 watts TDP... You should always power budget the full TDP, even if you plan to only utilize a percentage of it... Otherwise, something like an over aggressive core or memory clock setting would just cause the GPU to crash, and not to burn up... You should be able to safely run every GPU at a 100% power limit, the wiring should be able to handle at least 100% of the GPU TDP... If you are only wiring everything to where you plan the GPU to operate at only, and not the full TDP, then if something ever occurred where the GPU get hit asking for full TDP and full TDP is above the operational power needs, then you could burn something up... But injecting otherwise for example a 3080's settings into a 3060, that shouldn't burn a GPU up... Just cause it to crash or freeze up... I don't think your issue was with your clock profiles at all, not unless you got a larger picture issue with your power budget and you are not budgeting properly... I will also say, those black and yellow cables are no bueno imo... They in theory should be ok, but... I've had a few of those burn up despite utilizing them properly and everything... I think the pins in them are poor quality, or the conductor of the wire or something... I even saw a video where Red Panda Mining had an issue with some, and my brother who also crypto mines had issues once... I only use 6 pin to 6 pin PCIe/VGA power extension cables any more in those yellow black cables... That and only used to power risers... Otherwise I use genuine power supply cables from the manufacturer anymore... I've lost all trust for the cheaper aftermarket cables... And I don't even use splitter/breakout boards... I only use (semi) modular ATX power supplies, and the cables they come with, 3 GPUs per PSU (850 watt PSUs), except the PSU powering the motherboard, that PSU only gets 2 GPUs, unless also if I am powering a higher end GPU like a 3080, then the PSU powering the 3080 only gets the 3080 or maybe the 3080 and a 2nd GPU, no 3rd GPU... But most of my rig is 3060tis and 3070s, I got a single 3060v1, and two 3080s... Everything else is 3060tis or 3070s.... So if the full TDP of a 3060ti is 200 watts, I can safely put three 3060tis on a single 850 watt ATX PSU... Only using 70% of the rated power ***IF*** I were to ever demand full TDP, but of course I dial down the power limit to each GPU from the TDP 200 watts, to 130 watts... So the reality is, I am only demanding 390 watts of an 850 watt PSU, or 46%... But that said, I have the buffer if for some reason each GPU called for full TDP, and in addition the 80% on top of that... There is only enough modular space on the PSUs to connect 3 GPUs, and I would never put more than 1 GPU on a single cable, so I usually power both the riser and the GPU on the same cable unless that puts me over the power budget of that said cable... Then if that is the case (or in some cases a GPU needs more than 1 power connection), then I use molex power from the PSU to power the riser... Molex should be good to 100 watts, and the riser should never ask for more than 75 watts, tops... And then I will place more than 1 PSU to 1 motherboard splitting the ATX cable so that the PSUs will all turn on and off at the same time, or I also mostly use ASUS B250 Mining Expert Motherboards where I can connect 3 PSUs directly to it... I run 8 GPUs per motherboard, so 2 PSUs will run 3 GPUs each, and 1 PSU will run 2 GPUs and the CPU/RAM/SSD/MoBo, etc... 3 PSUs, 8 GPUs, 1 MoBo...
@Steve25g
@Steve25g Жыл бұрын
the power limit in a pcie cable on a server supply is a bit different. you have three circuits, and each circuit is able to deliver 9A. , calculating max power through a pcie 6 pin is as such : 9A x 3 x 12V. The problem is, server psu's are not properly used, and as such are capable to drop their full power also in one cable... This calculation is only valid for server supplies, not ATX power supplies. That said Server psu's are preferable.
@blackmennewstyle
@blackmennewstyle 2 жыл бұрын
Have a nice recovery from the human malware my brother
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
haha, thanks!!!
@jasonmasters4042
@jasonmasters4042 2 жыл бұрын
First any version of hive works. The cables terminals are to small to support the power draw. I'm referring to the metal terminals that are crimped onto the wire. Inside the black connector.The cables with all 6 wires attached to each other are notoriously mislabelled as 18 awg. If you cut a real 18 awg and one of those then compare the thickness of the copper. You will see what i mean. I agree that settings get unsynced when 1 gpu drops.That does not mean a 3070 would receive the power that goes to a 3080. if you have 70 percent power limit on a 3080. then the 3080 drops off. The 3070 would run at 70 percent power limit for the 3070. The hp 1200 sticker says 900 watt max at 110-120 on the psu. That is not your issue as the input voltage has no effect on the 12v output voltage.The psu would power off if you exceed the 900. If you are going to make video then you should have a better understanding of the subject matter.
@speedbag67
@speedbag67 2 жыл бұрын
He mentioned numerous times that he wasnt certain of exactly what happened.. He makes videos like these so that less informed viewers who may have had the same experience, can benefit from the comments of better informed viewers like yourself.. I find it very helpful.
@HashRaptor
@HashRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for taking the time to share your experience. So in Hive I don't have percentages assigned to the GPU's. Hive uses wattage unlike windows. So if I have 220 watts assigned to the 3080, then the OC gets out of sync by moving cards around, then the 220 watts could end up on a lower power card like a 3060. Great point on the awg of the wire. I've heard that before. Wish there was a solid source for high quality cables. As for the PSU running at 900 watts on 120v, interesting you said it would power down. I've never pushed it that far that I recall. But, as I am not an electrician, I do wonder if you push a PSU at 95% for example for months on end 24x7, what kind of stress that puts on the PSU, ports (since they are all pulling power), etc... Fascinating stuff I always like to learn more about. Take care and keep on mining!!!
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